View Full Version : President Trump to meet Putin in Helsinki in July 16
arista
28-06-2018, 02:10 PM
After his UK visit on the 13th.
debating many items
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-and-putin-to-have-first-summit-in-july-11419746
Tom4784
28-06-2018, 02:10 PM
Maybe Trump's thinking of asking him for a raise.
GiRTh
28-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Progress report
arista
28-06-2018, 02:15 PM
https://e3.365dm.com/18/06/1096x616/skynews-vladimir-putin-donald-trump_4347876.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180628121334
Kazanne
28-06-2018, 03:46 PM
That will be an interesting meeting.
Isn't collusion supposed to happen behind the scenes? The Mueller investigation is rumored to be wrapping up, so what would be really interesting is if the results were to be released just before or during this visit...
Crimson Dynamo
28-06-2018, 07:00 PM
King of diplomacy
GiRTh
30-06-2018, 10:17 AM
King of diplomacyI always knew Diplomacy would prove to be Donnies best quality. Look at him on twitter; diplomacy personified. :thumbs:
arista
30-06-2018, 07:20 PM
Isn't collusion supposed to happen behind the scenes? The Mueller investigation is rumored to be wrapping up, so what would be really interesting is if the results were to be released just before or during this visit...
Trump likes Putin's Power
I assume the Mueller will be ignored
as this is 2 leaders
that get on.
Trump likes Putin's Power
I assume the Mueller will be ignored
as this is 2 leaders
that get on.
Of course Muller will be ignored....no skin off my clit
Just let the world take a moment of comon sence and remember what Putin told us BRISKS members of how good that would be....apart from mother Russia and China.......what happened to the rest of us........collapesed econemies...no denying now Arista SA in foked because of BRIKS
UserSince2005
30-06-2018, 09:00 PM
Crazy, this guy does more every month than Obama did in his whole 8 years.
For an insane old man you have to give him credit.
kirklancaster
30-06-2018, 09:03 PM
Crazy, this guy does more every month than Obama did in his whole 8 years.
For an insane old man you have to give him credit.
:clap1::clap1::clap1: That statement is 100% TRUE, User, but it will not increase your popularity on here. :laugh:
GiRTh
30-06-2018, 09:19 PM
Cant make such a subjective comment without backing it up guys. More in a month than Obama did in 8 years? Really?
:clap1::clap1::clap1: That statement is 100% TRUE, User, but it will not increase your popularity on here. :laugh:
But Kirk you area n adult....why are you worried about your popularity on a BB forum?...See me ......the only peoples opinons that concern me is my husbands and my kiids and fok the begruders
kirklancaster
30-06-2018, 09:36 PM
But Kirk you area n adult....why are you worried about your popularity on a BB forum?...See me ......the only peoples opinons that concern me is my husbands and my kiids and fok the begruders
I was being tongue-in-cheek, Lime, in light of some 'Trump' bashers on here who are not really objective over numerous threads shall we say?
I was being tongue-in-cheek, Lime, in light of some 'Trump' bashers on here who are not really objective over numerous threads shall we say?
But are they really Trump bashers? just because you disagree with someones Politics does not make you a basher
You know I came to Ireland in 99.iN Killarny atm WE Have Irish trad music players being warned by Trump supporters not to sing a song against Trump:shrug::shrug:
I should add reminds me of growing up in SA and Pink floyd beinng banned
user104658
30-06-2018, 09:58 PM
Crazy, this guy does more every month than Obama did in his whole 8 years.
For an insane old man you have to give him credit.Surely we should measure success on doing more GOOD than just doing "loads" :think:. Yes he does a lot, and yes some of it is seemingly good, but there's also a huge chunk that's been harmful :shrug:. Maybe if he did less, he'd have more time to think things through before doing them... Instead of it just being pot luck.
kirklancaster
30-06-2018, 10:21 PM
But are they really Trump bashers? just because you disagree with someones Politics does not make you a basher
You know I came to Ireland in 99.iN Killarny atm WE Have Irish trad music players being warned by Trump supporters not to sing a song against Trump:shrug::shrug:
I like to believe that I am learned and astute enough to know the many flaws that Trump has, but what I am referring to are certain posts which are not only infused with patently-transparent, personal detestation of Trump,but which also 'regurgitate' anti-Trump news and imagery in substantiation when such news and imagery has already been proven to be fake.
At the same time, posts which attack and criticise Corbyn are met with vociferous umbrage, even though such posts contain nothing but proven fact.
In my opinion,of course.
I like to believe that I am learned and astute enough to know the many flaws that Trump has, but what I am referring to are certain posts which are not only infused with patently-transparent, personal detestation of Trump,but which also 'regurgitate' anti-Trump news and imagery in substantiation when such news and imagery has already been proven to be fake.
At the same time, posts which attack and criticise Corbyn are met with vociferous umbrage, even though such posts contain nothing but proven fact.
In my opinion,of course.
That's aolt of words Kirk but I am struggling to find any of them adressing what I have said?
I am not from the UK nor have I lived there...We where talking about Trump but now you bring Corbyn in to it ??
I maybe wrong Kirk but I think you are well aware of the fact that English is not my first lanuage and you are now sadly coming across....In my opinion,of course as somone who can't hold their own so let's belittle them on their English..hope I'm wrong
kirklancaster
30-06-2018, 10:54 PM
That's aolt of words Kirk but I am struggling to find any of them adressing what I have said?
I am not from the UK nor have I lived there...We where talking about Trump but now you bring Corbyn in to it ??
I have not referred to you, Lime??? :shrug:
I am at a loss as to why you mention me bringing Corbyn in when I feel that it is perfectly clear that I am comparing the hypocrisy in it being acceptable for posts to contain fake news, imagery, and allegations when the subject is Trump, whilst posts which contain nothing but facts are met with aggressive responses when the subject is Corbyn.
kirklancaster
30-06-2018, 11:04 PM
I maybe wrong Kirk but I think you are well aware of the fact that English is not my first lanuage and you are now sadly coming across....In my opinion,of course as somone who can't hold their own so let's belittle them on their English..hope I'm wrong
You could NOT be MORE wrong, Lime.
I have merely responded to your questions which were directed to me and am having a friendly discussion with you, that's all my friend.
I am certainly not trying to take advantage of you because English is not your first language, Lime, I am not that type of person, and I admire the standard of your English.
I am sorry that you think that.
You could NOT be MORE wrong, Lime.
I have merely responded to your questions which were directed to me and am having a friendly discussion with you, that's all my friend.
I am certainly not trying to take advantage of you because English is not your first language, Lime, I am not that type of person, and I admire the standard of your English.
I am sorry that you think that.
Thank's Kirk
We really as a family appereciare that
Should also add that now we live in Ireland and allowed to listen to whatever music we want ....we are reknowing are wedding vow's in Decemer to Pink Floyd's wish you were here
Jimi hendicks was also frowned upon during apartheid...I suggested Hey Joe for the rewal of our wedding vow's.....but as Marthinus rightfully pointed out to me...probally not the greatest of ideas to do this with a bloke singing about shooting his woman
Should also add that now we live in Ireland and allowed to listen to whatever music we want ....we are reknowing are wedding vow's in Decemer to Pink Floyd's wish you were here
Jimi hendicks was also frowned upon during apartheid...I suggested Hey Joe for the rewal of our wedding vow's.....but as Marthinus rightfully pointed out to me...probally not the greatest of ideas to do this with a bloke singing about shooting his woman
One of my husband's favorite songs of all time, lime :love:
One of my husband's favorite songs of all time, lime :love:
Then you choosed a great hubby there Maru...It's probaely one of the greatest love songs ever,,
I think most folk hear during their teens...It was my 30th birthday here in Ireland when I heard it for the first time...
I remember at the start of it I thought it was some sort of war chant....then I think I expected them do some sort of Haka..beautifull song:love::love:
arista
01-07-2018, 03:00 PM
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, a Lawyer
was just on CNNHD
she is in charge of a Demo in London
led by women and others.
against Trumps visit.
They are told to bring Pots and Pans
to make a big noise of protest
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwyksiWAAAJi-E.jpg
So long as its all legal
not a problem.
Dr. Shola Mos-Shogbamimu, a Lawyer
was just on CNNHD
she is in charge of a Demo in London
led by women and others.
against Trumps visit.
They are told to bring Pots and Pans
to make a big noise of protest
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DgwyksiWAAAJi-E.jpg
So long as its all legal
not a problem.
Someone should bring an orchestra.. make it a pep rally :love: ... but in all seriousness I honestly think he lives for these reactions, bad or yood... the worst response possible for Trump would be no response... he has ppl in the palm of his hand, they don't seem to get that.. he twists every bit of it to suit his agenda
Then you choosed a great hubby there Maru...It's probaely one of the greatest love songs ever,,
I think most folk hear during their teens...It was my 30th birthday here in Ireland when I heard it for the first time...
I remember at the start of it I thought it was some sort of war chant....then I think I expected them do some sort of Haka..beautifull song:love::love:
It was one of the first songs he played for me... he sung it for me as well, not too long after we met which was a while ago... cherish those moments always, lime :love:
Someone should bring an orchestra.. make it a pep rally :love: ... but in all seriousness I honestly think he lives for these reactions, bad or yood... the worst response possible for Trump would be no response... he has ppl in the palm of his hand, they don't seem to get that.. he twists every bit of it to suit his agenda
a yood reaction gets me every time :laugh:
arista
15-07-2018, 11:10 AM
https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/1096x616/skynews-trump-putin-helsinki_4362310.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180715032930
A Special Limited Edition Beer.
[Finnish brewers create 'problem-solving' beer for Trump-Putin summit
The limited-edition lager features caricatures of Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin, with the slogan "Making Lager Great Again".]
Trump is due to leave Scotland later today
for Finland.
https://news.sky.com/story/finnish-brewers-create-problem-solving-beer-for-trump-putin-summit-11437513
Putin has been in Power for 18 years.
Democrats are screaming Trump should not meet Putin - but that's all too late,
he will be there & No Democrat can stop the meet/
arista
15-07-2018, 05:51 PM
President Trump
has landed in Helsinki Airport
It 8:51Pm there
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiKlcOzXUAAPtMH.jpg
arista
16-07-2018, 07:09 AM
Trump is due to meet Putin
in the next hour or so.
Glenn.
16-07-2018, 09:42 AM
Bet the orange scum is full of respect and decency unlike with our Liz
arista
16-07-2018, 10:04 AM
Putin has just arrived in Finland
Bet the orange scum is full of respect and decency unlike with our LizWhat do you mean? he didn't show any disrespect to Her Majesty. He actually called her a beautiful person, on both the inside and out.
Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 11:08 AM
I wonder if Caldy will pop down to cheer the motorcades?
Nicky91
16-07-2018, 11:12 AM
Cald can be our number 1 source (our eyes and ears for this major event)
:flutter:
arista
16-07-2018, 11:14 AM
The 2 are seated together
Trump doing the talking.
https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/992x558/skynews-donald-trump-vladimir-putin_4363365.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180716121501
arista
16-07-2018, 03:09 PM
Trump-Putin Conference
starts soon,
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/jm8cSEI5f7XBO2oGTBW-ww/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/stUCL5OrSiO74UCdI4nR_prot.JPG
A Old Protester against Nukes was just removed
delayed
as Putin arrived late
they also had 2 hours on their own
arista
16-07-2018, 03:11 PM
Live now
Putin starts.
arista
16-07-2018, 03:19 PM
President Putin has a long list
he seems positive.
Now Trump Talks
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiPMz0zWkAYweQ2.jpg
No Collusion with Russia
in reply to Reuters Reporter.
USA and Russia are now united on working on Safety for Israel
https://news.sky.com/story/live-trump-and-putin-set-for-helsinki-summit-11438493
Free Live feed in 1080P
a yood reaction gets me every time :laugh:
omg yuuuge :laugh:
In all seriousness, I just replaced my keyboard. Yes. Let's blame that. :spin:
Been waiting for this Trump/Putin meeting for a while...
a lot of the top American brass are calling Trump's behaviour treason .... I think things are coming to a head
Glenn.
16-07-2018, 05:20 PM
What do you mean? he didn't show any disrespect to Her Majesty. He actually called her a beautiful person, on both the inside and out.
Yes he did
Tom4784
16-07-2018, 05:23 PM
He pretty much shat on royal protocol iirc.
arista
16-07-2018, 05:47 PM
https://e3.365dm.com/18/07/992x558/skynews-president-donald-trump_4363699.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180716173552
Yeah, that was... I don't want to say a disaster, because a lot more could've gone wrong. His focus on hating on the press and protecting his own ego is such that he's willing to throw the entire intelligence community under the bus... that is how it sounded right at the end before they walked off.
On the positive, it sounds like there are beginnings of a foundation there being built for the US/Russia relationships to improve, whereever that leads. I'd be excited that Putin so willing to send people here to help us with our invesigations, etc, if I didn't think that would be another backdoor to spy on us :spin:... Putin is a former intelligence officer after all, and Trump is a former businessman, sure, but he's not a hardened dictator...
So I'm a little bit nervous about how badly that could go if Trump ignores our own intelligence agencies and decides to take up Putin's offering(s) without acceptable pre-conditions... another way I read that, Putin could have also been taking advantage of Trump's willingness to arm himself with any sort of knowledge that would help him to win the fight in the media... something he is clearly still preoccupied with at this point.
Marsh.
17-07-2018, 12:01 AM
What do you mean? he didn't show any disrespect to Her Majesty. He actually called her a beautiful person, on both the inside and out.
The only possible compliment he can pay a women is to comment on her looks? Jfc
Tom4784
17-07-2018, 02:19 AM
Beginning of the end for Trump.
https://media1.tenor.com/images/6d393e99e190e3cbf43dac11c6afdb0e/tenor.gif
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14D75/production/_102556358_guardian.jpg
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arista
17-07-2018, 06:01 AM
Yeah, that was... I don't want to say a disaster, because a lot more could've gone wrong. His focus on hating on the press and protecting his own ego is such that he's willing to throw the entire intelligence community under the bus... that is how it sounded right at the end before they walked off.
On the positive, it sounds like there are beginnings of a foundation there being built for the US/Russia relationships to improve, whereever that leads. I'd be excited that Putin so willing to send people here to help us with our invesigations, etc, if I didn't think that would be another backdoor to spy on us :spin:... Putin is a former intelligence officer after all, and Trump is a former businessman, sure, but he's not a hardened dictator...
So I'm a little bit nervous about how badly that could go if Trump ignores our own intelligence agencies and decides to take up Putin's offering(s) without acceptable pre-conditions... another way I read that, Putin could have also been taking advantage of Trump's willingness to arm himself with any sort of knowledge that would help him to win the fight in the media... something he is clearly still preoccupied with at this point.
See if he back tracks , this morning.
arista
17-07-2018, 06:04 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/8A25/production/_102556353_ft.jpg
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 10:39 AM
Yeah, that was... I don't want to say a disaster, because a lot more could've gone wrong. His focus on hating on the press and protecting his own ego is such that he's willing to throw the entire intelligence community under the bus... that is how it sounded right at the end before they walked off.
On the positive, it sounds like there are beginnings of a foundation there being built for the US/Russia relationships to improve, whereever that leads. I'd be excited that Putin so willing to send people here to help us with our invesigations, etc, if I didn't think that would be another backdoor to spy on us :spin:... Putin is a former intelligence officer after all, and Trump is a former businessman, sure, but he's not a hardened dictator...
So I'm a little bit nervous about how badly that could go if Trump ignores our own intelligence agencies and decides to take up Putin's offering(s) without acceptable pre-conditions... another way I read that, Putin could have also been taking advantage of Trump's willingness to arm himself with any sort of knowledge that would help him to win the fight in the media... something he is clearly still preoccupied with at this point.
This is absurd; your president was up at the podium kissing the arse of a dictator who murders journalists, attacked your country, and undertook a chemical weapons attack on British soil, and he was armed only with multiple debunked conspiracy theories concerning servers and pakistani dudes.
Your response? A lot more could have gone wrong and it's positive we may have better relations with russia.
It's this kind of mealy mouthed response that allows trump to get away with supporting the charlottesville Nazi's, backing a child molester for senate, and the other litany of crimes and misdemeanors he's gotten away with already.
arista
17-07-2018, 10:59 AM
"podium kissing the arse of a dictator who murders journalists"
Yes Russian Journalists
were killed by a sub group
that can not be connected to Putin.
but so does Fecking China
Our Former PM
took the China leader to his local pub
for fish /chips just before the EU vote
Livia
17-07-2018, 11:09 AM
This has to be the beginning of the end for Trump, surely?
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 11:12 AM
"podium kissing the arse of a dictator who murders journalists"
Yes Russian Journalists
were killed by a sub group
that can not be connected to Putin.
but so does Fecking China
Our Former PM
took the China leader to his local pub
for fish /chips just before the EU vote
In a dictatorship, nothing like this happens without the express authorisation of the person in charge. You're being naive a best, if you think journalists criticising putin and his regime, are being murdered without purpose or reason. Everything is connected to putin, as reported by other journalists that now live in fear for their lives too.
I also find it illuminating that you decided to leave out the part of my sentence that highlighted the attack on the USA and the chemical weapons attack in Britain, neither of which were undertaken by the chinese.
Twosugars
17-07-2018, 11:15 AM
This has to be the beginning of the end for Trump, surely?
let's hope so
but republicans will try to explain that away somehow, they always do
arista
17-07-2018, 11:21 AM
In a dictatorship, nothing like this happens without the express authorisation of the person in charge. You're being naive a best, if you think journalists criticising putin and his regime, are being murdered without purpose or reason. Everything is connected to putin, as reported by other journalists that now live in fear for their lives too.
I also find it illuminating that you decided to leave out the part of my sentence that highlighted the attack on the USA and the chemical weapons attack in Britain, neither of which were undertaken by the chinese.
No I am not
I am saying Putin's Russia
will not change.
The only reason
I put China in there
was to say - you can not change a nation's leader.
Trump does deals.
I enjoyed that BBC2HD Docu on Putin
when he brought a dog in the room to upset the
German leader.
Putin is a Dictator
but Gas supply's matter more
arista
17-07-2018, 11:23 AM
This has to be the beginning of the end for Trump, surely?
They said the same with that Hooker
from 2006
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/19/stormy-daniels-trump-stephanie-clifford-sharks
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 11:28 AM
No I am not
I am saying Putin's Russia
will not change.
The only reason
I put China in there
was to say - you can not change a nation's leader.
Trump does deals.
I enjoyed that BBC2HD Docu on Putin
when he brought a dog in the room to upset the
German leader.
Putin is a Dictator
but Gas supply's matter more
What deals has trump done? Russia has to sell gas because their economy is pretty terrible. They already have sanctions imposed on them, and they are still desperate to deal their gas. They would shoot themselves in the foot if they stopped to prove a point.
The president of the US stood next to a russian dictator and spewed all of russia's talking points for them. What a deal maker he is. Let's rejoice.
arista
17-07-2018, 11:40 AM
What deals has trump done? Russia has to sell gas because their economy is pretty terrible. They already have sanctions imposed on them, and they are still desperate to deal their gas. They would shoot themselves in the foot if they stopped to prove a point.
The president of the US stood next to a russian dictator and spewed all of russia's talking points for them. What a deal maker he is. Let's rejoice.
He moved the Embassy in the Middle East.
That was a deal he said he would do
Yes Trump can stand with North Korea
or Russia,
he is one of a kind.
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 11:45 AM
He moved the Embassy in the Middle East.
That was deal he said he would do
Yes Trump can stand with North Korea
or Russia,
he is one of a kind.
He didn't do that deal, it was US policy; it's just that previous presidents had the sense to show restraint.
You said deals, plural, so what other deals has he done?
When you lie with
dogs, you
get fleas.
arista
17-07-2018, 11:46 AM
He didn't do that deal, it was US policy; it's just that previous presidents had the sense to show restraint.
You said deals, plural, so what other deals has he done?
When you lie with
dogs, you
get fleas.
Deals being done daily
USA Policy I call a deal.
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 11:49 AM
Deals being done daily
USA Policy I call a deal.
Just give me a few examples of deals he has done then. Should be easy?
Tom4784
17-07-2018, 01:09 PM
let's hope so
but republicans will try to explain that away somehow, they always do
Actually I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them are up in arms against him. I'm fairly certain only his hardcore fans are still supporting him at this point. He definitely doesn't have many political allies left in the US.
Northern Monkey
17-07-2018, 01:45 PM
What’s that American expression again?
Oh yeah
He done goofed there.
Even Fox News turned on Trump.
He may be fecked.
I don’t necessarily believe all the conspiracies about Russia.Alot of media demonisation
But!Siding with an enemy nation over your own intelligence services is huuugggee.
I wouldn’t think he could stay in office?
GiRTh
17-07-2018, 04:49 PM
Many saying beginning of the end. It should be but I doubt it. Just the optics of Putin throwing Donnie the ball, mentioning he used to be a KGB director and laughing when asked directly if he had dirt on Trump and of course Donnie siding against his intelligence agency. It all said Strong leader V clown. Should be enough to end it but I still dont know.
Twosugars
17-07-2018, 04:58 PM
Actually I'm pretty sure the vast majority of them are up in arms against him. I'm fairly certain only his hardcore fans are still supporting him at this point. He definitely doesn't have many political allies left in the US.
The Congress Republicans still follow him
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/17/republicans-donald-trump-russia-treachery
Trump uniting the world...seems like its week after week to me.
This bloke deserves more than the peace prize he will collect sometime in his tenure as prez...8 yrs hopefully, the worlds coming together now.
kirklancaster
17-07-2018, 06:47 PM
Many saying beginning of the end. It should be but I doubt it. Just the optics of Putin throwing Donnie the ball, mentioning he used to be a KGB director and laughing when asked directly if he had dirt on Trump and of course Donnie siding against his intelligence agency. It all said Strong leader V clown. Should be enough to end it but I still dont know.
I doubt it too - though this is undoubtedly the lamest goof he has made.
I think we will be seeing him rechristened 'Teflon Trump'.
I don't think that the press and public opinion being upset with him is enough to get someone impeached. So I don't understand going on about how a conversation will be the end of Trump, etc. He's our elected president, so we don't really have a choice in the matter of whether or not to deal with Trump or his appointees...
One of the conservative sites immediately pointed out how terrible this came out, but yeah in the comment sections, users were quick to attack the writer(s) and so yes even his staunchest fans will think he is doing perfectly fine and Trump gonna be Trump, etc.
I don't think it's OK the way he threw our intelligence agencies under the bus to come out looking better politically. The reaction would've been 100x worse if it were the military and I think the right specifically would have an issue with this. This isn't any better though imo for me as both communities are quite deeply entrenched in one another. I also have intelligence people in the family, so to hear this outloud is damaging to not only their morale, but they will still do their job(s) despite that rhetoric...
Is it the most damaging thing he could've ever done? Absolutely not. He could've signed a 5-yr deal yesterday or something that had major implications for us all, on the basis of those incendiary commentaries... but no, it seems more like he's concerned about coming off like he's completely innocent in an open investigation. I'm less worried about how he will appear in the press (I couldn't care less about this aspect) than I am about how that will affect our efficacy abroad and whether or not certain red flags go unchecked if they do decide to cooperate in the background, etc... that worries me, but at the same time, I know first hand the type of people that network and work in those backgrounds and they are the highest breed when it comes to integrity and national priorities... I don't think those folk would stand idly by if they had a choice in the matter.
The comment I disliked the most was about the time they were walking out and he slammed the entire FBI. Yes, slam the way it's being run and how so many leaks and biases are going unchecked... but surely the entire organization isn't irreconcilable? That was my biggest issue with the press conference.
If the conference emphasized anything for me, it was that we need this investigation to be closed as soon as possible. Not really just because we need to put this behind us (that's going to take much longer imo), but because folk here really do deserve answers as to what is going on not only in front of us in these conferences, but behind the scenes in terms of what sort of obsfiscation is possibly going on... whether it's Trump or some other orchestrated effort, it's important the people have those details. All the rest is just partisan bickering/nonsense and I tune out after that point...
The Slim Reaper
17-07-2018, 07:33 PM
On one hand, the people deserve answers.
But on the other, it's important we close the investigation ASAP?
This is an investigation that has already got guilty pleas from some of the people closest to trump's campaign, and more and more people are being indicted.
Was the upset right clamouring for an end to the Benghazi show trials? Investigators and prosecutors that worked on watergate have all said how quickly and efficiently Mueller is running things. Finding out the truth is far more important than wrapping things up ASAP.
You speak a lot of sense Maru. Everyone wants results to investigations, and they want them now. But I think I'm correct in saying watergate took 8 years, and that typically, investigations take at least 4 years. So I wouldn't hold my breath now :laugh:
Tom4784
17-07-2018, 07:36 PM
Many saying beginning of the end. It should be but I doubt it. Just the optics of Putin throwing Donnie the ball, mentioning he used to be a KGB director and laughing when asked directly if he had dirt on Trump and of course Donnie siding against his intelligence agency. It all said Strong leader V clown. Should be enough to end it but I still dont know.
Nah, I think this is going to be it for him, I can't see him coming back from dumping on his own government in favour of siding with the opposition to preserve his ego.
You speak a lot of sense Maru. Everyone wants results to investigations, and they want them now. But I think I'm correct in saying watergate took 8 years, and that typically, investigations take at least 4 years. So I wouldn't hold my breath now :laugh:
Yeah I remember when they first announced this investigation, it was said by some folk it would take probably at least 2 years, maybe longer. So it's not surprising how long it's gone on at this point... I do think they are being as quick as possible, given the circumstances. It'll be done when it's done basically.
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GiRTh
17-07-2018, 10:28 PM
I doubt it too - though this is undoubtedly the lamest goof he has made.
I think we will be seeing him rechristened 'Teflon Trump'.Now he's come out with the ridiculous spin, I think he's got a long way to go to get that title. They should send him out abroad every week. It'll end his presidency quicker than any investigation
GiRTh
17-07-2018, 10:30 PM
Nah, I think this is going to be it for him, I can't see him coming back from dumping on his own government in favour of siding with the opposition to preserve his ego.Starting to think this after the silly spin. Its like a 9 year old trying to get away with being naughty.
arista
17-07-2018, 11:18 PM
President Trump
back tracked - as predicted by many
than you Maru for the CBS USA clips.
CNN HD USA appears to be stuck on a record groove , again.
Sign Of the Times
arista
18-07-2018, 12:17 AM
President Trump
just on FoxNewsHD "Tucker Carlson"
just said he is stopping WW3.
He then said the Illegals that enter USA
do not go to Court
And any Politics that want a Open USA Border are Fools.
FoxNewsHD is only online for the UK
at this time.
(due to a UK Sky buy out from USA)
The lights going out during his press conference was an interesting one. Was it the Russians, showing who has control?
The lights going out during his press conference was an interesting one. Was it the Russians, showing who has control?
....hmmm, well Russia has had to put up with their own authoritarian leader..and putting him into darkness, whether accidentally or purposely would not go down well as he KNOWS PEOPLE..etc, etc...but an authoritarian leader from the west as well..maybe a step too far...this town/this country ain’t big enough for the both of you..?...you’re not the boss of us, so...we don’t have to listen to you as well..?....black screen, gone...pooof...
The lights going out during his press conference was an interesting one. Was it the Russians, showing who has control?
Trick or Treatee?... I wonderz
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