Cheryl and Liam Payne split up

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[RileyH]

Sis can do better anyway

[Shaun]

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[BBUK-Fan]

Shocker.... not

[Firewire]

PR relationships never last, she got a child out of it tho which is more than most can say

[Denver]

Slag is already looking for husband 13 to stay relevant

[Cal.]

Chez can do better

[Morgan.]

I feel like they've been split up for months but kept it quiet like they've been as far apart as possible for so long

[Withano]

I completely forgot they were together. Good for me.

[Marsh.]

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

Clearly a fling that got more serious than either of them wanted when she fell pregnant. A story as old as time.

[rusticgal]

Well...she got her baby with a partner who has his own money..no surprise there. It's the child I feel for..always the innocent victim.

[Marsh.]

Slag is already looking for husband 13 to stay relevant

"Slag"

Yet stans the girl who literally had to leak sex tapes to stay in the papers.

[Ross.]

Okay can she come back to X Factor now

[Ross.]

And release new music

We want a Cheryl summer bop

[Denver]

"Slag"

Yet stans the girl who literally had to leak sex tapes to stay in the papers.

Tulisa is far to classy for that

[Tony Montana]

I feel like they've been split up for months but kept it quiet like they've been as far apart as possible for so long

Yeah i felt this way too. They were just putting on a Show and Playing Happy Family for the Media.

[Oliver_W]

RIP to the remake of Harold and Maude.

[Marsh.]

Tulisa is far to classy for that

Too classy to give a decent blowjob? You might be right.

[Marsh.]

I knew she'd dump him after he put her on the radio whilst on the toilet. :hehe:

[Amy Jade]

I knew she'd dump him after he put her on the radio whilst on the toilet. :hehe:

The dealbreaker!

[Alf]

I'll light a candle, shall I?


Damn! I don't have any candles, I'll have to light a fart instead.

[Tony Montana]

I'll light a candle, shall I?


Damn! I don't have any candles, I'll have to light a fart instead.

:joker::joker::joker: You Just Made my Night

[Alf]

:joker::joker::joker: You Just Made my NightAnd you didn't even pay me for it. I feel so used:hmph:

[LaLaLand]

Called it!

[Tony Montana]

And you didn't even pay me for it. I feel so used:hmph:

Stop it, You're Killing me :joker::joker:

[Daniel.]

Liam can do better

[Marsh.]

:joker::joker::joker: You Just Made my Night

Stop it, You're Killing me :joker::joker:

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[Ashley.]

I'll light a candle, shall I?


Damn! I don't have any candles, I'll have to light a fart instead.

:joker::joker::joker: You Just Made my Night

And you didn't even pay me for it. I feel so used:hmph:

Stop it, You're Killing me :joker::joker:

Something's not quite adding up. :suspect:

[Alf]

Something's not quite adding up. :suspect:You must have a faulty calculator.

[montblanc]

i thought they been broke up

[kirklancaster]

Perhaps the girl changed her mind, the girl's allowed. Anyway, with her track record, this was only ever going to go in one direction.

[Brillopad]

Perhaps the girl changed her mind, the girl's allowed. Anyway, with her track record, this was only ever going to go in one direction.

:joker::joker: very good Kirk.

[kirklancaster]

:joker::joker: very good Kirk.

:hee: Thank you, Brillo.

[Nicky91]

Liam can get something better than Cheryl for sure

[Strictly Jake]

I laughed when i heard this. Of course it wasnt going to last. They didnt suit each other at all

[Brillopad]

Liam can get something better than Cheryl for sure

They are both idiots - it was a foregone conclusion. Up-themsrlves, entitled but untalented twits who will likely flit from one relationship to another’s until they they get too old to continue. I find them quite sad. Too much money but too little substance.

[Nicky91]

They are both idiots - it was a foregone conclusion. Up-themsrlves, entitled but untalented twits who will likely flit from one relationship to another’s until they they get too old to continue. I find them quite sad. Too much money but too little substance.

inbe4 Liam goes to write a song about this break up lol

[Brillopad]

inbe4 Liam goes to write a song about this break up lol

I doubt he could write anything of any substance. Probably a more-talented but less known song-writer writes it and he gets to put his name to it.

[bots]

Does anyone seriously care?

[Marsh.]

Does anyone seriously care?

You cared enough to comment.

[Marsh.]

Kind of sad that with stories like this it still receives abuse on the woman and nothing on him.

Apparently having a baby with someone and then breaking up makes her a slag and him... well, nothing it seems.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Finally, now he can concentrate on being a black US rap star

:flutter:

[Brillopad]

Kind of sad that with stories like this it still receives abuse on the woman and nothing on him.

Apparently having a baby with someone and then breaking up makes her a slag and him... well, nothing it seems.

Something we actually agree on.

[Marsh.]

Also, I really don't get all of the talk about Cheryl using him for worldwide fame etc.

She's spent 95% of their relationship hidden away, she's hardly capitalised on it to get famous in America or anything.

Seems it was just a fling and they got caught very early on and the pregnancy made it more serious than either of them intended it to be. A common story in ordinary life too.

Let's just hope they really do put the baby first.

[AnnieK]

Also, I really don't get all of the talk about Cheryl using him for worldwide fame etc.

She's spent 95% of their relationship hidden away, she's hardly capitalised on it to get famous in America or anything.

Seems it was just a fling and they got caught very early on and the pregnancy made it more serious than either of them intended it to be. A common story in ordinary life too.

Let's just hope they really do put the baby first.

Well said Marsh.

He has been absent for a lot of Bear's life, he will have missed multiple milestones....Cheryl has shunned fame to concentrate on her son.

The relationship has run its course, hopefully they remain amicable for Bear's sake and co-parent well.

Always sad when relationships break down, more so when children are involved but still sad all round. Name calling and finger pointing is just juvenile

[Niamh.]

Kind of sad that with stories like this it still receives abuse on the woman and nothing on him.

Apparently having a baby with someone and then breaking up makes her a slag and him... well, nothing it seems.

Yeah, I don't even like Cheryl but that's nasty and completely sexist. It's a shame that it seems like no matter how far we come that never seems to change. It's very unfair considering the vast majority of the time it's the mothers who are the ones who step up to the plate with the kids after a break up aswell and are the responsible ones but still get all the abuse too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Let's just hope they really do put the baby first.

They called the poor child Bear


so no i dont think the child will come before their egos

[kirklancaster]

Finally, now he can concentrate on being a black US rap star

:flutter:


:laugh2:

[kirklancaster]

Also, I really don't get all of the talk about Cheryl using him for worldwide fame etc.

She's spent 95% of their relationship hidden away, she's hardly capitalised on it to get famous in America or anything.

Seems it was just a fling and they got caught very early on and the pregnancy made it more serious than either of them intended it to be. A common story in ordinary life too.

Let's just hope they really do put the baby first.

Great post, Marsh.

[Marsh.]

They called the poor child Bear


so no i dont think the child will come before their egos

Well, they could've called the poor thing Robert!

[Brillopad]

They called the poor child Bear


so no i dont think the child will come before their egos

Always wondered why those celebs with over-inflated egos feel the need to give their children such attention-seeking names - trying to separate the wheat from the chaff in their egotistical minds maybe!

[Denver]

Kind of sad that with stories like this it still receives abuse on the woman and nothing on him.

Apparently having a baby with someone and then breaking up makes her a slag and him... well, nothing it seems.

She has a history of getting with men for fame

[Brillopad]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

She was a lot more famous than him. It seems to me he notched up his own claim to fame getting involved with her. I think you have it the wrong way round Adam.

[Niamh.]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

Besides Ashley Cole who? that second husband wasn't even famous was he? certainly less famous than her anyway

[Marsh.]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

No, you have a history of not liking her and thinking she's a slag.

There's a difference.

Also, 95% of her relationship with Liam has been behind closed doors. Where has she milked this apparent fame?
She was a hell of a lot more famous than her second husband and, as for Ashley Cole, they boosted each other's profiles much like Victoria and David did all of those years ago.

Next you'll be telling me the multi-millionaire was after Liam for his money. :idc:

In fact, in fairness to Cheryl, she's never really paraded her relationships for the media after what happened when it was revealed Ashley had been cheating on her. Her marriage to that French bloke, albeit short, was conducted mostly privately too.

[AnnieK]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

Who? Like that dancer she dated for a good while? Or the very famous Jean Fernandez- v? All done quietly and away from cameras. Yep, I see your point, the fame hungry slag only after the mega famous to use their fame!

Whereas Liam, one of the lesser known 1D lads....got with one of the most famous women in the country just as he was launching his solo career.....whiter then white that one

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is getting to be toxic like price

[Denver]

She was a lot more famous than him. It seems to me he notched up his own claim to fame getting involved with her. I think you have it the wrong way round Adam.

She never had a hit outside of The UK Liam had worldwide hits

[Denver]

That marriage to the french bloke 5 seconds after meeting was a publicity stunt and she treated him badly

[Nicky91]

she gotta fight fight for this love, but she really don't care for this crazy stupid love, all she needs now is a parachute, and she wants us to call her name Cheryl


a pun based on some of her songs lol

[Brillopad]

She never had a hit outside of The UK Liam had worldwide hits

She was still far better known. His solo career only took off because of the increased attention they got as a couple.

I feel I could safely say most people over the age of 25-30 would have needed a reminder who he even was before he got with her. He had never had so much fame previously - not even as a member of a manufactured boy-band who had Simon’s money behind them.

She had a similar start that had more to do with appearance than talent but she is far better known nevertheless.

[Morgan.]

she gotta fight fight for this love, but she really don't care for this crazy stupid love, all she needs now is a parachute, and she wants us to call her name Cheryl


a pun based on some of her songs lol

ha ha ha

[Morgan.]

She was still far better known. His solo career only took off because of the increased attention they got as a couple.

I feel I could safely say most people over the age of 25-30 would have needed a reminder who he even was before he got with her. He had never had so much fame previously - not even as a member of a manufactured boy-band who had Simon’s money behind them.

She had a similar start that had more to do with appearance than talent but she is far better known nevertheless.

His solo career took off because he was in one of the biggest boybands in the world :shrug:

[Denver]

She was still far better known. His solo career only took off because of the increased attention they got as a couple.

I feel I could safely say most people over the age of 25-30 would have needed a reminder who he even was before he got with her. He had never had so much fame previously - not even as a member of a manufactured boy-band who had Simon’s money behind them.

She had a similar start that had more to do with appearance than talent but she is far better known nevertheless.

So you are saying you could go to the States and more people would know her?

[Brillopad]

His solo career took off because he was in one of the biggest boybands in the world :shrug:

Only because of Simon. It sure wasn’t based on talent. Boybands rarely last (a big clue is in the boy bit) but Simon sells them for all he is worth because he makes a lot of money off them - mainly from teenage girls.

[Brillopad]

So you are saying you could go to the States and more people would know her?

I think most people have heard of Cheryl Cole. Outside of the teenage bracket most would say ‘ Liam who’.

[Denver]

Nobody in America knows her though which is why Simon sacked her

[Crimson Dynamo]

lets face it both are talentless plebs who got lucky and were marketed to make big music corp money

his solo career is a non starter but Cheryl at least had some bops

as a couple they were odious

[AnnieK]

Still don't understand the slag tag? How is she a slag?

I really don't care they split but I care that a woman who has been in pretty long term relationships all the time she has been in the limelight is being labelled a slag!

[LukeB]

Besides Ashley Cole who? that second husband wasn't even famous was he? certainly less famous than her anyway

Her second husband was unknown :joker: she also dated a dancer from her tour so another unknown person.

[Marsh.]

She never had a hit outside of The UK Liam had worldwide hits

Yes, and look at all of the last two years she's spent hiding her pregnancy/baby away from the cameras in her home in the UK.

Doing a lot of good for her profile in America no doubt.

But don't let facts get in the way of baseless hate.

[Marsh.]

That marriage to the french bloke 5 seconds after meeting was a publicity stunt and she treated him badly

Yes, Cheryl thought "Omg I need a publicity stunt, I know, I'll marry a French bloke who's less famous than me". What a plan!

[Denver]

She tried to be Katie Price and failed

[LukeB]

Yes, and look at all of the last two years she's spent hiding her pregnancy/baby away from the cameras in her home in the UK.

Doing a lot of good for her profile in America no doubt.

But don't let facts get in the way of baseless hate.

Marsh with the tea

[Marsh.]

His solo career took off because he was in one of the biggest boybands in the world :shrug:

His solo career hasn't really took off tbf. :hehe:

[Marsh.]

She tried to be Katie Price and failed

Tried to be Katie Price by what?

[Niamh.]

She tried to be Katie Price and failed

In what way exactly?, I can't even believe I'm defending the girl tbh but how is she in anyway comparable to Katie Price?

[Denver]

By dating lesser known men and getting serious and other stuff

[Nicky91]

Yes, Cheryl thought "Omg I need a publicity stunt, I know, I'll marry a French bloke who's less famous than me". What a plan!

same goes for our former footballer wife Sylvie Meis, who also now had over 6 different men in her lives right now after her divorce from Rafael Van der Vaart


also some wealthy French actor, he's a bit unknown even in france, but Sylvie probably wanted him for the money, so that didn't last for 2 weeks and he broke up with her


here they call it SylvieGate, which is now currently at chapter 100 of the story lol

[LukeB]

Still don't understand the slag tag? How is she a slag?

I really don't care they split but I care that a woman who has been in pretty long term relationships all the time she has been in the limelight is being labelled a slag!

It’s a trashy word that is used against women because they get in more than 1 relationship when theres nothing wrong with that, their life.

[Morgan.]

Only because of Simon. It sure wasn’t based on talent. Boybands rarely last (a big clue is in the boy bit) but Simon sells them for all he is worth because he makes a lot of money off them - mainly from teenage girls.

Right but I never said he had talent :joker:

[Marsh.]

By dating lesser known men and getting serious and other stuff

Hold on, you just criticised her for getting with famous men to increase her profile?

Now she's in the wrong for dating non-famous people too?

Do you actually know why you hate her or are you just inventing it as you go along?

[Niamh.]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

By dating lesser known men and getting serious and other stuff

Which is the truth? :suspect:

[Marsh.]

Omg how dare she get with a man and get serious. D:

Niamh's a married woman with kids, is she Katie Price too???

[Niamh.]

Omg how dare she get with a man and get serious. D:

Niamh's a married woman with kids, is she Katie Price too???

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

[AnnieK]

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

God Niamh....How could you???

[Marsh.]

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

That's kinda dirty. I need to leave this thread.

[LukeB]

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

Disgusting, wth :umm2:

[Denver]

he doesnt know what love is

[Denver]

She probably already been eyeing her next target wonder which underage boy from X Factor will be next

[Niamh.]

God Niamh....How could you???

That's kinda dirty. I need to leave this thread.

Disgusting, wth :umm2:

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[Brillopad]

She probably already been eyeing her next target wonder which underage boy from X Factor will be next

Adam you see exactly what you want to see and nothing more. :shrug:

[LukeB]

Hold on, you just criticised her for getting with famous men to increase her profile?

Now she's in the wrong for dating non-famous people too?

Do you actually know why you hate her or are you just inventing it as you go along?

You can’t make this up:joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

not a 3 way

Queen of Filth

:flutter:

[Denver]

Adam you see exactly what you want to see and nothing more. :shrug:

She groom Liam as a 14 year old on The X Factor simply as

[Niamh.]

not a 3 way

Queen of Filth

:flutter:

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[Niamh.]

She groom Liam as a 14 year old on The X Factor simply as

Yes she groomed him by getting married to another man mmhhmm

[Nicky91]

poor Niamh right now :(

[Niamh.]

poor Niamh right now :(

always bullying me they are Nicky :bawling:

[Beso]

and I had b/f's before I got married too :o slag

half of that sentence is true.

[Denver]

Yes she groomed him by getting married to another man mmhhmm

Well he never really wanted her

[LukeB]

Yes she groomed him by getting married to another man mmhhmm

She would have been arrested and sacked from x factor uk if this was true, just made up stories because they hate her:joker:

[Niamh.]

half of that sentence is true.

I'm going to go with glass half full and pick the nice part :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

and dont forget she is a racist and attacked that poor lady in the loo

[LukeB]

and dont forget she is a racist and attacked that poor lady in the loo

She was cleared of racist attack and was only guilty of assualt :hee:

[Nicky91]

and dont forget she is a racist and attacked that poor lady in the loo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-199155/Pop-star-punched-toilet-attendant.html

you mean this story

[Denver]

and dont forget she is a racist and attacked that poor lady in the loo

Her fans won't accept that though

She also hated Gamu poor girl

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her fans won't accept that though

She also hated Gamu poor girl

"Girls Aloud singer Cheryl Tweedy gave a female nightclub toilet attendant a black eye and called her a "black bitch" in a row over a handful of lollipops, a court heard."

and people are in here defending her?

:shocked:

[Tom4784]

She has a history of getting with men for fame

This is a good example of someone trying to overwrite facts with their own opinion.

[LukeB]

This is a good example of someone trying to overwrite facts with their own opinion.

:joker:

[Denver]

"Girls Aloud singer Cheryl Tweedy gave a female nightclub toilet attendant a black eye and called her a "black bitch" in a row over a handful of lollipops, a court heard."

and people are in here defending her?

:shocked:

Disgusting bitch she shouldn't be given a career

[Crimson Dynamo]

According to The Sun’s Bizarre column, the 10-year-age-gap and Liam’s futile pursuit of a solo career are the main reasons behind the split.

[Denver]

She is also living in his house that he paid for and she put nothing into it

[Niamh.]

She is also living in his house that he paid for and she put nothing into it

With his child, that's he's responsible for. I doubt Cheryl is short of cash herself

[Denver]

He could look after his own child in his own house

[LukeB]

With his child, that's he's responsible for. I doubt Cheryl is short of cash herself

How dare she live in a house with their child :o

[Denver]

It is actually sickening how a mother always gets the custody

[Niamh.]

He could look after his own child in his own house

by the sounds of it Cheryl seems to be the primary caregiver there

[Niamh.]

It is actually sickening how a mother always gets the custody

I think you'll find in a lot of cases fathers don't even try to get custody

[LukeB]

by the sounds of it Cheryl seems to be the primary caregiver there

She is with Bear and that house the most and Liam is always away doing his solo stuff, their break up ended on good terms and i’m sure he is fine with her being there, he isn’t going to force them to move straight away and confuse their baby.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I expect he has been shagging around and she found out

[user104658]

It is actually sickening how a mother always gets the custody

Most common scenario is joint custody. Residence usually goes to the mother but, to be fair, it's very rarely contested... and when it is contested, it'll go to whoever has been the primary carer before separation, unless there are some other circumstances like substance abuse. If the father has been the primary caregiver during the child's life thus far, and contests for them to reside with him, then there's a high chance of that succeeding :shrug:.

[Niamh.]

Most common scenario is joint custody. Residence usually goes to the mother but, to be fair, it's very rarely contested... and when it is contested, it'll go to whoever has been the primary carer before separation, unless there are some other circumstances like substance abuse. If the father has been the primary caregiver during the child's life thus far, and contests for them to reside with him, then there's a high chance of that succeeding :shrug:.

Which is very fair really imo whatever disrupts the kids the least is what should be aimed for

[Ashley.]

It is actually sickening how a mother always gets the custody

Not always. In most cases. That's because mothers are naturally the primary caregivers and, without long periods of separation, have a stronger bond with the child. It's no wonder most children end up with their mothers, as that is usually the best option for them.

[Marsh.]

Disgusting bitch she shouldn't be given a careerYet you defended a homophobic rapist a couple of weeks ago.

[Marsh.]

He could look after his own child in his own houseThen how come he's never the one at home holding the baby?

[Brillopad]

Slag is already looking for husband 13 to stay relevant

Are you talking about that slag Payne!

[GoldHeart]

After they've had a kid as well :bored:

Knew it wouldn't last :sleep:

[y.winter]

I'm shooketh etc etc... :bored:

They guy's poor attempt at being a rap gangster or whatever he believes he is has shown that he still has a long way to go until he can be a grown up. And Cheryl, enough has been said...

Shame about the child though.

[hijaxers]

So its new boyfriend and a new baby - I wait with baited breath - not - i wish she would just go away and stay gone. Totally talentless.

[Marsh.]

So its new boyfriend and a new baby - I wait with baited breath - not - i wish she would just go away and stay gone. Totally talentless.What new boyfriend?

[Vicky.]

Does anyone seriously care?

78.4K people are talking about this

Hmm :suspect: Maybe.

Also this is no surprise. Was clearly just a fling, and when she got pregnant is scared the crap out of them both so they split up. Very common tbh

[Vicky.]

It is actually sickening how a mother always gets the custody

I think you'll find in a lot of cases fathers don't even try to get custody

Indeed. If both go for custody, it tends to be joint. but most fathers don't attempt for it, hence mothers getting it usually. Infact, some studies found that when a man does go for custody, he is more likely to get it than a woman!

Also, family courts tend to go on who does the majority of the childcare also. Like, in my case if me and Gavin split up , and we both went for custody, he would 100% get main custody while I got visitation..fairly sure I wouldn't even get joint. As I do next to none of the child stuff due to my illness. I would not even go for custody actually as I would be utterly useless without help.

[Vicky.]

Most common scenario is joint custody. Residence usually goes to the mother but, to be fair, it's very rarely contested... and when it is contested, it'll go to whoever has been the primary carer before separation, unless there are some other circumstances like substance abuse. If the father has been the primary caregiver during the child's life thus far, and contests for them to reside with him, then there's a high chance of that succeeding :shrug:.

Or yes, this. Had not read the more recent posts when I replied :laugh:

[Matthew.]

it’s not as if the mum always gets the custody though is it

[Niamh.]

Indeed. If both go for custody, it tends to be joint. but most fathers don't attempt for it, hence mothers getting it usually. Infact, some studies found that when a man does go for custody, he is more likely to get it than a woman!

Also, family courts tend to go on who does the majority of the childcare also. Like, in my case if me and Gavin split up , and we both went for custody, he would 100% get main custody while I got visitation..fairly sure I wouldn't even get joint. As I do next to none of the child stuff due to my illness. I would not even go for custody actually as I would be utterly useless without help.

My daughter is from a previous relationship and her dad never went for custody, tbh he only started wanting to have her more after he met someone else and had more kids so was already "tied" if you know what I mean.

[Vicky.]

My daughter is from a previous relationship and her dad never went for custody, tbh he only started wanting to have her more after he met someone else and had more kids so was already "tied" if you know what I mean.

Yeah, we have a similar issue. My stepson..his father never went for custody and ****ed off right after he was born. So Gavin took the father role as he got with his ex around that time and the kid grew up thinking Gavin was his dad, which in all honesty he is, the other guy was just a sperm donor given his behaviour. But all of a sudden now the sperm donor is in a relationship with someone else and has had a child (and actually stuck around! Maybe he learnt something) and he is being a bit of a tit. Keeps sending random solicitors letters saying he will go to court, which is fine, do what he wants. But then, after one letter everything stops for a bit, then in a few months, another random one. Never followed up by any action. I suspect its his new partner saying he should be in the childs life. The kid is ****ing 14 now...

[Niamh.]

Yeah, we have a similar issue. My stepson..his father never went for custody and ****ed off right after he was born. So Gavin took the father role as he got with his ex around that time and the kid grew up thinking Gavin was his dad, which in all honesty he is, the other guy was just a sperm donor given his behaviour. But all of a sudden now the sperm donor is in a relationship with someone else and has had a child (and actually stuck around! Maybe he learnt something) and he is being a bit of a tit. Keeps sending random solicitors letters saying he will go to court, which is fine, do what he wants. But then, after one letter everything stops for a bit, then in a few months, another random one. Never followed up by any action. I suspect its his new partner saying he should be in the childs life. The kid is ****ing 14 now...

ah that's terrible, poor kid, now my daughters dad isn't that bad, he did still see her but what I mean was that I think he was pretty happy to be living the care free single life for a while so had absolutely no interest in fighting for custody, full or joint and I think alot more men than women are like that though I don't like to generalise and I fully appreciate that it's not the case 100% of the time either

[Kizzy]

no 1 curr

[Alf]

no 1 currThat should be true, but sadly it isn't.

[Marsh.]

no 1 currPoor Niamh :(

[Glenn.]

It was kind of icky anyway