Cat-calling on streets - girl-power!

[Brillopad]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-43718034

Found this interesting. It’s good to see women using their initiative to shame the idiots who behave like this - nearly always from the safety of a car or a group. Anonymous, cowardly sexism!

[Ashley.]

Good for them. When I was younger, I used to walk quite a bit - but I always avoided construction sites or pubs where you're likely to have men outside, talking as though I'm open for business. It isn't attractive and I've always said cat calling should be taken more seriously, and I'll continue pushing for that.

But I suppose we as women could quite easily prevent this from happening by just not leaving our houses, or something along those lines. :idc:

[arista]

Yes Well Done
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[Niamh.]

Good for them. When I was younger, I used to walk quite a bit - but I always avoided construction sites or pubs where you're likely to have men outside, talking as though I'm open for business. It isn't attractive and I've always said cat calling should be taken more seriously, and I'll continue pushing for that.

But I suppose we as women could quite easily prevent this from happening by just not leaving our houses, or something along those lines. :idc:

funny thing is that it isn't even an out there idea that this could be suggested......

The creepy thing about cat calling is, in my experience anyway, the vast majority of times it ever happened to me was when I was a teenager on my way to or from school (wearing a school uniform) it's very intimidating when you're that young

[Brillopad]

Good for them. When I was younger, I used to walk quite a bit - but I always avoided construction sites or pubs where you're likely to have men outside, talking as though I'm open for business. It isn't attractive and I've always said cat calling should be taken more seriously, and I'll continue pushing for that.

But I suppose we as women could quite easily prevent this from happening by just not leaving our houses, or something along those lines. :idc:

Same old story Ashley. It’s always the women expected to ‘compromise’ despite not being the actual offenders.

[Crimson Dynamo]

those are all photoshopped?

[Ashley.]

Flicking through some more of these images and the things that have been said to women, some half as young as me, are inexplicably offensive. It just beats me as to why men feel the need to do it, and think they're doing us a favour. It causes women to grow up believing that they're nothing more than a sex object, and then guess what? The men don't want them anymore.

[Brillopad]

Flicking through some more of these images and the things that have been said to women, some half as young as me, are inexplicably offensive. It just beats me as to why men feel the need to do it, and think they're doing us a favour. It causes women to grow up believing that they're nothing more than a sex object, and then guess what? The men don't want them anymore.

Cat-calling in itself is bad enough but so many men seem to have no boundaries whatsoever. Saying such things to underage girls basically makes them trash and cowardly trash at that. They probably have daughters at home - it really makes you despair of some mem. Something very wrong with them!

[Beso]

i doubt this is an issue anymore in the uk, on building sites anyway..

[Crimson Dynamo]

i doubt this is an issue anymore in the uk, on building sites anyway..

i have never heard anyone do it for like 30 years or more

[Niamh.]

i have never heard anyone do it for like 30 years or more

tbf LT you're a man, I doubt you would be the actual target of the cat callers, that's a bit like saying as a white person that black people never experience racism cos you've not seen it happen :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

tbf LT you're a man, I doubt you would be the actual target of the cat callers, that's a bit like saying as a white person that black people never experience racism cos you've not seen it happen :laugh:

does chanting "get your tits out for the lads" at a game count as I am sure my friend John has done this

:think:

[Ashley.]

i doubt this is an issue anymore in the uk, on building sites anyway..

It is.

[GoldHeart]

funny thing is that it isn't even an out there idea that this could be suggested......

The creepy thing about cat calling is, in my experience anyway, the vast majority of times it ever happened to me was when I was a teenager on my way to or from school (wearing a school uniform) it's very intimidating when you're that young

That's just creepy , I was going to say some young teenagers look alot older . But the fact that you're in school uniform and they're still doing it is just messed up.

But I still think other men who cat call these young girls assume they're older (the ones without school uniform).

Some of these cat call phrases are weird and silly , and alot of the time they're just showing off in front of their mates and they have no intention on acting on it.
You can easily ignore them and walk past . Obviously if they continue shouting stupid things then it's harassment.

I thought it was mostly wolf whistling they did without dialogue :rolleyes:.

[Niamh.]

That's just creepy , I was going to say some young teenagers look alot older . But the fact that you're in school uniform and they're still doing it is just messed up.

But I still think other men who cat call these young girls assume they're older (the ones without school uniform).

Some of these cat call phrases are weird and silly , and alot of the time they're just showing off in front of their mates and they have no intention on acting on it.
You can easily ignore them and walk past . Obviously if they continue shouting stupid things then it's harassment.

I thought it was mostly wolf whistling they did without dialogue :rolleyes:.

Yes I'm sure that's the case with the vast majority of these guys but it doesn't make it less intimidating for women or girls none the less

[kirklancaster]

It is so passe. It reminds me of countless times when I 'worked the doors' and witnessed gangs of young lads enter the club sober and all shy and timid - even blushing when spoken to - and by the early hours I was ejecting them for acting like the bastard offspring of Rambo and Rocky; wanting to fight anyone and everyone for no reason, and after complaints from girls about these dicks hassling them and walking up to them with 'chat-up' lines such as; "You've got lovely teeth they'd look even better around my knob" or even worse.

It all makes them look more stupid than they really are and I personally have never witnessed any time when wolf-whistling or 'cat-calling' has ever been appreciated by a woman - let alone a schoolgirl.

[Brillopad]

That's just creepy , I was going to say some young teenagers look alot older . But the fact that you're in school uniform and they're still doing it is just messed up.

But I still think other men who cat call these young girls assume they're older (the ones without school uniform).

Some of these cat call phrases are weird and silly , and alot of the time they're just showing off in front of their mates and they have no intention on acting on it.
You can easily ignore them and walk past . Obviously if they continue shouting stupid things then it's harassment.

I thought it was mostly wolf whistling they did without dialogue :rolleyes:.

For some time now women have made it clear they don’t like it and it makes them feel uncomfortable - why on earth should they have to ignore it and walk on by. It’s about time men took some responsibility in this. You shouldn’t make excuses for them. Like most women I have been there and it is not nice.

[GoldHeart]

For some time now women have made it clear they don’t like it and it makes them feel uncomfortable - why on earth should they have to ignore it and walk on by. It’s about time men took some responsibility in this. You shouldn’t make excuses for them. Like most women I have been there and it is not nice.

I'm not making excuses for them atall :nono: , i'm just saying the majority of them are acting stupid and silly and are harmless.

I didn't think cat calling was that frequent in the UK . Like I said I know the wolf whistling happens sometimes .

I would say it's more intimidating and disrespectful if they continue to shout at these women ,or if they actually approach them and follow them then it's harassment.

[Brillopad]

I'm not making excuses for them atall :nono: , i'm just saying the majority of them are acting stupid and silly and are harmless.

I didn't think cat calling was that frequent in the UK . Like I said I know the wolf whistling happens sometimes .

I would say it's more intimidating and disrespectful if they continue to shout at these women ,or if they actually approach them and follow them then it's harassment.

They shouldn’t do it at all as they have no right to - I don’t care if they want to act like a moron and impress their stupid mates. :shrug:

[GoldHeart]

They shouldn’t do it at all as they have no right to - I don’t care if they want to act like a moron and impress their stupid mates. :shrug:

Well unfortunately we can't control people's mouth and behavior .

People shout and swear in front of kids , people would say that shouldn't be allowed but it still happens .

[Ashley.]

It is so passe. It reminds me of countless times when I 'worked the doors' and witnessed gangs of young lads enter the club sober and all shy and timid - even blushing when spoken to - and by the early hours I was ejecting them for acting like the bastard offspring of Rambo and Rocky; wanting to fight anyone and everyone for no reason, and after complaints from girls about these dicks hassling them and walking up to them with 'chat-up' lines such as; "You've got lovely teeth they'd look even better around my knob" or even worse.

It all makes them look more stupid than they really are and I personally have never witnessed any time when wolf-whistling or 'cat-calling' has ever been appreciated by a woman - let alone a schoolgirl.

"Sorry, I'm vegetarian."

[kirklancaster]

"Sorry, I'm vegetarian."

:laugh:

[Brillopad]

Well unfortunately we can't control people's mouth and behavior .

People shout and swear in front of kids , people would say that shouldn't be allowed but it still happens .

Maybe - but morons that do it during work time could lose their jobs as its offensive sexist behaviour. Would you treat it as lightly if people were shouting racist remarks and claimed they were just having a bit of fun! This is half the battle as some don’t seem to find one as offensive as the other and it is.

[GoldHeart]

Maybe - but morons that do it during work time could lose their jobs as its offensive sexist behaviour. Would you treat it as lightly if people were shouting racist remarks and claimed they were just having a bit of fun! This is half the battle as some don’t seem to find one as offensive as the other and it is.

People DO shout racist remarks in the street , along with other offensive prejudice stuff more so when alcohol is involved ,but some don't even need that liquid courage.

I never said it was okay but it still happens . Builders get away with it because they're freely outside , they should be focused on working but they obviously laze around , and when they do have a break that's obviously when they act silly ( not all construction workers obviously) .

[Amy Jade]

I'll probably get sneered at for this but I actually don't mind cat calling. It could be because I was chubby when I was in my early teens and no boys paid me any attention but so long as it's not gross I don't mind and I take it as a bit of a compliment.

I've only ever had whistling and them saying hello sexy/babe etc if I got told some of the things in that article I wouldn't like it to be fair.

[Brillopad]

I'll probably get sneered at for this but I actually don't mind cat calling. It could be because I was chubby when I was in my early teens and no boys paid me any attention but so long as it's not gross I don't mind and I take it as a bit of a compliment.

I've only ever had whistling and them saying hello sexy/babe etc if I got told some of the things in that article I wouldn't like it to be fair.

Thing is Amy many do find it harassing. If, for example, and this has happed to me and others I know, you end up walking the long way past a building site every day because taking the normal route exposes you to the remarks and makes you feel uncomfortable whilst on other occasions you have to grin and bear it although you hate it - you know it is unacceptable behaviour.

I think we all note that men usually only do it when they are in groups because that know it’s wrong but don’t care and because they are gutless. Men have no right to make women feel that way. I don’t think we should ever condone it.

[Alf]

I find the ladies are usually the ones doing it to me. I take it as a compliment.

[Kazanne]

Men get a bit cocky when they are with their mates , they may think it's harmless banter but not every woman likes that sort of attention , sometimes it can be flattering but a lot of them go too far, and can make you feel very uneasy.

[GoldHeart]

Men get a bit cocky when they are with their mates , they may think it's harmless banter but not every woman likes that sort of attention , sometimes it can be flattering but a lot of them go too far, and can make you feel very uneasy.

That'a how i see it , it's obvious they're acting silly with their mates as a laugh. And it's easily ignored .

If it ever goes beyond that with more vulgar comments and remarks then it's obviously harassment.

[Kazanne]

That'a how i see it , it's obvious they're acting silly with their mates as a laugh. And it's easily ignored .

If it ever goes beyond that with more vulgar comments and remarks then it's obviously harassment.

Exactly :wavey:

[Ashley.]

That'a how i see it , it's obvious they're acting silly with their mates as a laugh. And it's easily ignored .

If it ever goes beyond that with more vulgar comments and remarks then it's obviously harassment.

Which is what the article is touching on and what we are discussing.

[Oliver_W]

What do those guys even think will happen? Do they think women going from Points A to B are just waiting for the right words to be yelled in their direction? They're walking down the street, not sitting on the pinball machine.

[Jack_]

What do those guys even think will happen? Do they think women going from Points A to B are just waiting for the right words to be yelled in their direction? They're walking down the street, not sitting on the pinball machine.

"Cracking arse luv"

"Thanks Dave, let me suck you off behind the cement mixer"

[Oliver_W]

"Cracking arse luv"

"Thanks Dave, let me suck you off behind the cement mixer"

Well, exactly.
"Hi, can I buy you a drink?" whilst in the pub is pretty different to "get 'em out, luv!" yelled from a Fiat.

[JerseyWins]

I'm not necessarily sure if this is an issue but it's not something that only happens to girls btw. Believe it or not it's happened to me a couple times. Because it's something that's rare though it catches me by surprise and to me personally it's more of a strange feeling, or at least kinda flattering, but not so much uncomfortable or offensive. Although I've not had anything weird or disgusting said to me.

Once it was with two of my friends basically "cat calling" all of us - so I'd say it's not always a person alone that it happens to. But for me every time it's been multiple girls and always while they were inside a car though (or a minivan one time lmao). :joker:

I think people mostly just do it for the thrill or if they're really drunk or really bored. Which I'm not saying is an excuse but people will view this differently... some might like it, some might hate it, some might not care either way. It depends on the context and what's said though of course because there's a lot of situations where it could be uncomfortable for sure. :shrug:

[Vicky.]

Good for them. When I was younger, I used to walk quite a bit - but I always avoided construction sites or pubs where you're likely to have men outside, talking as though I'm open for business. It isn't attractive and I've always said cat calling should be taken more seriously, and I'll continue pushing for that.

But I suppose we as women could quite easily prevent this from happening by just not leaving our houses, or something along those lines. :idc:

Indeed. I mean, I still get catcalled despite being 31 and fairly overweight, I guess its the tits that attract the dickheads. I started getting catcalled at age 12..when I started to develop, in my school uniform...and it was near constant. It was disgusting and actually made me so depressed and quite scared tbh. Infact, I actually..being a child...tried to cut my tits off with a pencil sharpener blade. Obviously I know as an adult that it would never work that way and I would need a proper knife..but yeah..I still have the scars from that.

funny thing is that it isn't even an out there idea that this could be suggested......

The creepy thing about cat calling is, in my experience anyway, the vast majority of times it ever happened to me was when I was a teenager on my way to or from school (wearing a school uniform) it's very intimidating when you're that young
Like on the other thread, how it was suggested that it was womens fault that men upskirt and we should all just wear trousers to prevent it? Its always womens fault for mens behaviour...its fairly depressing. Even when a woman gets raped..its always 'oh she had a lot to drink' and such.

Under his eye. Blessed be the fruit. Tbh.

[Vicky.]

Maybe - but morons that do it during work time could lose their jobs as its offensive sexist behaviour. Would you treat it as lightly if people were shouting racist remarks and claimed they were just having a bit of fun! This is half the battle as some don’t seem to find one as offensive as the other and it is.

LOL, as if that would ever happen. Its behaviour thats apparently absolutely fine, as its women on the receiving end...and it will be rationalized away as utterly normal and harmless. Building sites were not actually that bad for me, it was mainly random blokes on the street! A few of them actually grabbed me too, or brushed up against me deliberately in queues in shops. From ****ing 12 onwards ffs.

Those saying you are surprised its still a thing...or saying its not a thing now..it definitely is. As I say, even at my age and overweight, I still get dickheads brushing their hardons up against me on crowded trains (on purpose, not accidentally, you can tell the difference) and such, along with random disgusting comments on the street or when walking past pubs. Except now, I have the balls to just hit them in the balls when they do it. That sharps stops them.

Some women find it flattering, thats up to them, but I don't, at all. I think its vile tbh, and its pointless, all you suceed in doing most of the time is making the woman think you are a bit of a dickhead, or depending on the woman, actually scaring her.

[Niamh.]

Indeed. I mean, I still get catcalled despite being 31 and fairly overweight, I guess its the tits that attract the dickheads. I started getting catcalled at age 12..when I started to develop, in my school uniform...and it was near constant. It was disgusting and actually made me so depressed and quite scared tbh. Infact, I actually..being a child...tried to cut my tits off with a pencil sharpener blade. Obviously I know as an adult that it would never work that way and I would need a proper knife..but yeah..I still have the scars from that.


Like on the other thread, how it was suggested that it was womens fault that men upskirt and we should all just wear trousers to prevent it? Its always womens fault for mens behaviour...its fairly depressing. Even when a woman gets raped..its always 'oh she had a lot to drink' and such.

Under his eye. Blessed be the fruit. Tbh.

mmhhmm, that show is extra creepy because like I said in reply to Ashleys comments......it's not even an out there idea, depressing

[Vicky.]

mmhhmm, that show is extra creepy because like I said in reply to Ashleys comments......it's not even an out there idea, depressing

Well, Margaret Atwood actually said, nothing in her book had not actually happened at some point in history, so she just basically pulled it all together. Which does make it seriously scary as, if its happened before..or is happening now in some places (like the making women wear certain clothing..which obviously happens now) ..well..

[Niamh.]

Well, Margaret Atwood actually said, nothing in her book had not actually happened at some point in history, so she just basically pulled it all together. Which does make it seriously scary as, if its happened before..or is happening now in some places (like the making women wear certain clothing..which obviously happens now) ..well..

Yeah exactly, scary

[Vicky.]

One of my rules was that I would not put any events in my book that had not already happened in what James Joyce called the 'nightmare' of history, nor any technology not already available. No imaginary gizmos, no imaginary laws, no imaginary atrocities. God is in the details, they say. So is the devil.

Not typing out the whole introduction...but that part is the most relevant. Have the book infront of me :laugh:

[Niamh.]

One of my rules was that I would not put any events in my book that had not already happened in what James Joyce called the 'nightmare' of history, nor any technology not already available. No imaginary gizmos, no imaginary laws, no imaginary atrocities. God is in the details, they say. So is the devil.

Not typing out the whole introduction...but that part is the most relevant. Have the book infront of me :laugh:

Are you watching the show or just reading the book? I've not read the book but I've heard people say that Season 2 has broken away from the book

[Vicky.]

Are you watching the show or just reading the book? I've not read the book but I've heard people say that Season 2 has broken away from the book

Season 2 had to break away from the book, as the ending of S1 was the ending of the book...so they had to just go their own way after that, apparently Atwood is helping with the storyline though, as she imagined happened next but didn't write.

I watch the series and also read the book. Got the book about halfway through the series.

[Niamh.]

Season 2 had to break away from the book, as the ending of S1 was the ending of the book...so they had to just go their own way after that, apparently Atwood is helping with the storyline though, as she imagined happened next but didn't write.

I watch the series and also read the book. Got the book about halfway through the series.

Oh I'm glad she's got some input into it, it's a brilliant series, the characters are so creepy and the actors play them all so well I think

[bots]

The one positive side of cat calling is that you can identify an individual or group that are harassing. If they are silent, it doesn't change their thoughts.