How do you feel about black African USA people and their constant use of the N word?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"*****" this, "*****" that

:conf:

In rap songs and but also by younger people in city areas and i guess its spread over here as well in London and Birmingham.

How do you feel about it?


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[Niamh.]

Not much?

[montblanc]

black people should be able to say that word

[Wizard.]

If they want to use it, use it, but don't go off on a white person who uses it uninformatively or because it's a lyric in a rap song. I can't remember who it was but I remember watching a video of a black artist who invited a fan up on stage at a gig, the fan was white and they sung along to a song which had the N word in. The white fan sung it and the whole crowd booed and the artist said he couldn't believe the fan said it. Nobody owns a word and if it's used in the right context then what's the problem? We were allowed to say ***** in school because it was written in the novels we read so we said it out loud in class, there's no escaping it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

black people should be able to say that word



Define a bit more what you mean by "black people"?

[Beso]

I think middle to upper class young white female bb contestants should be allowed to use it....no one else though, unless its in a joke.

[montblanc]

Define a bit more what you mean by "black people"?

what do you mean? :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

what do you mean? :suspect:

you have used a very generic term

do you include say Tongans, people from Fiji, from Egypt?

[Shaun]

I know the severity of it isn't comparable to the N word but I guess I have the same feeling about it as I do when saying "fag" or the one with "got" at the end when I'm talking with friends. It's something that takes me aback if someone non-queer uses it but it really depends on the context and your relationship with the person saying it.

I don't have a problem with singing the word if it's literally quoting someone else's song and lyrics, because that's just... karaoke. Would be like being punished for reading The Catcher in the Rye or Huckleberry Finn or something. I just think I'd probably censor myself if I was around someone I didn't know that well.

[montblanc]

If they want to use it, use it, but don't go off on a white person who uses it uninformatively or because it's a lyric in a rap song. I can't remember who it was but I remember watching a video of a black artist who invited a fan up on stage at a gig, the fan was white and they sung along to a song which had the N word in. The white fan sung it and the whole crowd booed and the artist said he couldn't believe the fan said it. Nobody owns a word and if it's used in the right context then what's the problem? We were allowed to say ***** in school because it was written in the novels we read so we said it out loud in class, there's no escaping it.

that word isn’t used as a derogatory term towards white people tho they shouldn’t say it

[Vicky.]

Not bothered, its up to them really. However I do find it ridiculous when some people will kick off about others repeating songs that say the word. I can't remember what song it was, but back when I used to work as a karaoke presenter some guy had asked for some rap song and this black guy started going absolutely mental when the singer said the lyric. Like proper screaming across the bar..and when the song finished he kept on going, but his mates joined in too calling the guy who was singing a 'racist twat' and such :umm2:

Edit. ahhh, just seen my reply is extremely similar to Rileys. Guess this is not that rare a thing then, for people to kick off about others singing rap lyrics :S

[montblanc]

you have used a very generic term

do you include say Tongans, people from Fiji, from Egypt?

it’s not hard to spot a black person

[Redway]

Black people have every right to reclaim the n-word. Doesn’t concern you in any way.

[Beso]

Black people use it as a derogatary term towards other black people these days.

[Beso]

Black people have every right to reclaim the n-word. Doesn’t concern you in any way.

So if lt is walking along and 4 black lads are beating up a younger black kid calling him a ***** as they do it, he should just walk on by?

[Wizard.]

that word isn’t used as a derogatory term towards white people tho they shouldn’t say it

I didn't say they should? If it's in a lyric or a book then they SHOULD be able to say it, but black people have a problem with that which I think is wrong.

[Redway]

So if lt is walking along and 4 black lads are beating up a younger black kid calling him a ***** as they do it, he should just walk on by?

Context is everything. Don’t be silly.

[montblanc]

Black people use it as a derogatary term towards other black people these days.

considering that black people can’t be racist towards themselves, it’s just a mere insult when they say it to one another (if they’re fighting)

due to the history of the word, when a non-black person calls a black person the word than the context changes

[Crimson Dynamo]

it’s not hard to spot a black person

Jess Ennis has a black dad but all her mum and her side of the family is white

so what is she?

[Beso]

Context is everything. Don’t be silly.

Its sad cause i know white kids in inner city estates are called it by black kids and he will call them it as well...all down to being poor...very upsetting i imagine...reclaiming the word just to use it in this way.

[Brillopad]

Black people have every right to reclaim the n-word. Doesn’t concern you in any way.

Didn’t you say something about blacks being 3000 years behind whites in another thread implying we just excuse them everything because they know no better. What rubbish! They are as accountable for their words and actions the same as anyone else. :rolleyes:

[bots]

considering that black people can’t be racist towards themselves, it’s just a mere insult when they say it to one another (if they’re fighting)

due to the history of the word, when a non-black person calls a black person the word than the context changes

that just doesn't make any sense

[montblanc]

Jess Ennis has a black dad but all her mum and her side of the family is white

so what is she?

black and white :suspect:

[Redway]

Its sad cause i know white kids in inner city estates are called it by black kids and he will call them it as well...all down to being poor...very upsetting i imagine...reclaiming the word just to use it in this way.

Just like white people cuss with other words. Should those words then be banned?

Don’t open your mouth about things you’ll never, ever understand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

black and white :suspect:

well she can use it but only on the weekends?

[montblanc]

that just doesn't make any sense

how?

[Redway]

Didn’t you say something about blacks being 3000 years behind whites in another thread implying we just excuse them everything because they know no better. What rubbish! They are as accountable for their words and actions the same as anyone else. :rolleyes:

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10069231&highlight=light+years+ahead#post10069231

Cherie said that about Christianity vs. Islam. At least quote the right person.

[Beso]

Just like white people cuss with other words. Should those words then be banned?

Don’t open your mouth about things you’ll never, ever understand.


Im not saying it should be banned ffs..im saying find a better use for the word.:shrug:

[Redway]

how?

Because these matters are completely over the heads of people of 90% of the people on here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because these matters are completely over the heads of people of 90% of the people on here.

You seem to not be getting the "debate" aspect of this section?

[Redway]

Im not saying it should be banned ffs..im saying find a better use for the word.:shrug:

How about worry about things that concern you? It’s not your debate to have.

Unless you’re a person of colour there are certain things that you’ll never understand. Not least the n-word thing.

[Redway]

well she can use it but only on the weekends?

This post sums up exactly why people like you shouldn’t make threads like this.

Are you taking the piss or are you actually that ignorant about race?

[Brillopad]

How about worry about things that concern you? It’s not your debate to have.

Unless you’re a person of colour there are certain things that you’ll never understand. Not least the n-word thing.

Talk about diversion! On that basis maybe blacks should keep out of whites business then. All I hear from you are excuses and double standards.

[The Slim Reaper]

TIBB is becoming more and more of a white nationalist site each and every day. It's not my site (obviously) but I'm surprised James is happy with the worrying direction this forum is taking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This post sums up exactly why people like you shouldn’t make threads like this.

Are you taking the piss or are you actually that ignorant about race?

what is your answer to the Jess Ennis question?

[Redway]

Talk about diversion! On that basis maybe blacks should keep out of whites business then. All I hear from you are excuses and double standards.

Unless you’re of colour you’ll never understand these things. That’s not diversion. It’s just not your debate to have.

[Niamh.]

Closing this if any other mod disagrees and wants to open it go ahead