Michael Fabricant MP accused of 'Islamophobia' over crude tweet of Sadiq Khan & a pig

[Crimson Dynamo]

http://static4.uk.businessinsider.com/image/5b47babe42e1cc54616a07d6-1400/dh7guax4aaq28ijpg-orig.jpg

Conservative MP Michael Fabricant has been accused of Islamophobia after tweeting a crude photoshopped image of Sadiq Khan.
It depicted the London mayor, who is a Muslim, as a giant balloon having sex with a giant balloon pig.
Labour MPs are now calling for Fabricant's suspension from the Conservative Party.
The politician claims he didn't see Khan's face in the image.


Fabricant subsequently deleted the tweet, and claims he didn't see Sadiq Khan's face in the image before sharing it. "I deleted it as soon as I saw Sadiq Khan’s face on the picture," he said in a tweet. I did not see it was him. He may be a useless Mayor, but he’s a nice guy whom I worked with when he was in Parliament."

http://uk.businessinsider.com/michael-fabricant-mp-tweets-photoshop-sadiq-khan-balloon-islamophobia-2018-7

The guy has since explained it was a retweet error and it just goes to show how dangerous twitter when you dont concentrate on what you are doing!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lichfield MP Mr Fabricant said: "I did not see the detail on my small iPhone."

"I am genuinely sorry if it caused anyone offence and I am disappointed in the person who sent it to me in the first place."

[Twosugars]

Saw him on TV last night, his wig looks preposterous lol

The joke? Meh, not arsed. Is Khan bothered? Any reaction from him?

[Smithy]

Why does he, Boris and trump all have the same terrible hair?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Saw him on TV last night, his wig looks preposterous lol

The joke? Meh, not arsed. Is Khan bothered? Any reaction from him?

Yes he was asked about it this morning on LBC and he said he has not seen it but had been told and he sounded a bit upset as they have previous

[bots]

Similarly to what I thought of Corbyn not looking closely at an image, I say the same about this guy. I don't believe for a moment he didnt know what he was doing

[Twosugars]

Yes he was asked about it this morning on LBC and he said he has not seen it but had been told and he sounded a bit upset as they have previous

Tbh idk how a religious Muslim or Jew would see that. Plus Fabricant is not taken seriously even by his own party. :shrug:

[Tom4784]

I think if you're gonna make a post aimed at a Muslim which involves a pig then it's islamophobic just like it would be inappropriate if it was aimed at a jew or if it involved a cow and was aimed at a Hindu.

[Oliver_W]

While the picture could be anyone when looked at in a glance on a phone screen, who did he think it was? The words right above the image have Sadiq's name in them, so even if he's claiming to think it was just a random guy from the picture, surely the caption would give him a clue?

[arista]

The Pig
should be in a Hot Dog
LT.

[Beso]

No different to someone joking on here about trump grabbing the queens pussy..
Imo of course.

[kirklancaster]

He went too far in recirculating this and the original architect went too far in depicting a pig. There would have been nothing wrong in depicting Kahn as a baby a la the Trump balloon.

Except that BOTH are ****ing childish, of course.

[Brillopad]

I think if you're gonna make a post aimed at a Muslim which involves a pig then it's islamophobic just like it would be inappropriate if it was aimed at a jew or if it involved a cow and was aimed at a Hindu.

Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.

or to shut down criticism of this superstition

[Brillopad]

or to shut down criticism of this superstition

Yep - definitely both!

[Kizzy]

Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.

Oh only made up words you agree with are real?...

Or is it because it is so prevalent among people you support and aimed at people you don't like?

[Mystic Mock]

Who knew that Fabric could be so cruel!?:shocked:

[Toy Soldier]

Islamophobia - another made up word to create drama.All it means us fear of Islam / fear of Muslims... Which is clearly a very real thing :think:

[Brillopad]

All it means us fear of Islam / fear of Muslims... Which is clearly a very real thing :think:

I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!

[Withano]

I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!

You’ve been really struggling with dictionary-defined words this week.

Things can be words even if you dislike them.

Stomping your feet, crossing your arms and shouting NO doesnt change anything.

[Withano]

Obviously Michael was a dickhead, obviously it wasnt an accident, him pretending that it was at least shows that he cares about his stupidness a tiny bit I suppose.

[Mystic Mock]

I know what it was intended to mean by the PC brigade - but it is still a made up word by those trying to label something they disapprove of as ‘hate’. Their agendas are always crystal clear.

Blow it up into some huge ‘hate crime’ to intimidate and close down opposition to large scale immigration. They aren’t as high-brow as they like to think - just totally transparent!

We have words like Homophobia and Transphobia, so why not Islamophobia?

I know it won't make me popular on here but I would probably be labelled under Islamophobic myself as I have a lot of serious issues with the Religion's "morals" I will treat individuals of the Religion fine if they're nice to me, but I do intensely dislike the Religion, but then I have a lot of issues with Christianity aswell.

I apologize for going off on a wild tangent btw.:hugesmile:

[Crimson Dynamo]

you chose to be a musllim

therefore islamophobia does not really exist alongside such things as racism and homophobia

[Brillopad]

We have words like Homophobia and Transphobia, so why not Islamophobia?

I know it won't make me popular on here but I would probably be labelled under Islamophobic myself as I have a lot of serious issues with the Religion's "morals" I will treat individuals of the Religion fine if they're nice to me, but I do intensely dislike the Religion, but then I have a lot of issues with Christianity aswell.

I apologize for going off on a wild tangent btw.:hugesmile:

So why not Cristianophobia, Catholicophobia or Hinduophobia etc. It’s the deliberate use of the word ‘phobia’ to try to suggest any issues with Islam in particular are ‘irrational’. They are trying to imply it is on par with a ‘clinical diagnosis!

Apparently any criticism of that particular religion can only be an ‘irrational’ one. It is so contrived - and downright disingenuous! Not buying it for a minute!

[Withano]

So why not Cristianophobia, Catholicophobia or Hinduophobia etc. It’s the deliberate use of the word ‘phobia’ to try to suggest any issues with Islam in particular are ‘irrational’. They are trying to imply it is on par with a ‘clinical diagnosis!

Apparently any criticism of that particular religion can only be an ‘irrational’ one. It is so contrived - and downright disingenuous! Not buying it for a minute!

Christophobia and Indophobia are used to describe those things.

Gynophobia is a fear or dislike of women. Is that a made up word with no real meaning?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Christophobia and Indophobia are used to describe those things.

Gynophobia is a fear or dislike of women. Is that a made up word with no real meaning?

FINALLY i get diagnosed

in your face NHS

thankyou witharno

[Brillopad]

Christophobia and Indophobia are used to describe those things.

Gynophobia is a fear or dislike of women. Is that a made up word with no real meaning?

If they are official words then so be it. Islamophobia was made up by the PC Brigade and not worth a jot.

[Withano]

If they are official words then so be it. Islamophobia was made up by the PC Brigade and not worth a jot.

No, youre wrong again

In summary, youve spent a few years being angry over a word because you believed that people you disliked made it up.

[Vicky.]

Hmm. Bit of a stupid thing to do but it seems it was just a..snap judgement thing rather than intentional? Should have a bit more sense mind

[Brillopad]

No, youre wrong again

In summary, youve spent a few years being angry over a word because you believed that people you disliked made it up.

It is not a clinical diagnosis and has no such meaning. It is all grand-standing from the left.

[Withano]

It is not a clinical diagnosis and has no such meaning. It is all grand-standing from the left.

Nobody (apart from you maybe) has ever said it was a clinical diagnosis.

The suffix ‘phobia’ loosely translates to ‘an aversion to’ if thats what you’re going on a tangent about. Nobody has ever been called homophobic for being petrified of gay men.

So new summary, you’ve spent a few years being angry over a word, because you gave the wrong definition to a word that you believed people you disliked created.

[Brillopad]

Nobody (apart from you maybe) has ever said it was a clinical diagnosis.

The suffix ‘phobia’ loosely translates to ‘an aversion to’ if thats what you’re going on a tangent about. Nobody has ever been called homophobic for being petrified of gay men.

So new summary, you’ve spent a few years being angry over a word, because you gave the wrong definition to a word that you believed people you disliked created.

I gave no wrong definition as that it is how it has been presented by the left. That is what the left wanted it to suggest and why they latched onto a word with the suffix ‘phobia’. It is still a made up word.

I thought this pertinent.

https://lawyerssecularsociety.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/islamophobia-an-absurd-term/

[Withano]

I gave no wrong definition as that it is how it has been presented by the left. That is what the left wanted it to suggest and why they latched onto a word with the suffix ‘phobia’. It is still a made up word.

I thought this pertinent.

https://lawyerssecularsociety.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/islamophobia-an-absurd-term/

Nah, youre just being stubborn, I pretty explicitly explained how you misinterpreted it.

You want the word to have that definition so you can dismiss it every single time, and that’s why we’ve had this convo.

[Brillopad]

Nah, youre just being stubborn, I pretty explicitly explained how you misinterpreted it.

You want the word to have that definition so you can dismiss it every single time, and that’s why we’ve had this convo.

Have you read the link - it makes everything perfecting clear to those who will not see due to either irrational thought processes or hard-line agendas. :hee:

[Withano]

Have you read the link - it makes everything perfecting clear to those who will not see due to either irrational thought processes or hard-line agendas. :hee:

The author doesn't understand the word origin of the suffix ‘phobia’ either.

I haven’t explained to him how he was wrong, whats your excuse?

[Brillopad]

The author doesn't understand the word origin of the suffix ‘phobia’ either.

I haven’t explained to him how he was wrong, whats your excuse?

Oh I think he does - he just has less of an agenda to ply.

I wonder who should I believe has more credibility when it comes to an opinion on this - this clearly educated, intelligent and informed man who has given a very clear description of the whys and where fore’s or Withano. A very hard decision indeed! :laugh:

[Livia]

Khan signed off on a large inflatable baby with Trump's face on it to be flown outside Parliament while the leader of the free world visited. Childish and insulting, whatever you think of Trump. So really, he can hardly complain about this or he's going to look ridiculously duplicitous. And all the furore about the pig in connection with Islam... Please. It isn't a real pig, you know that, right? If they'd have thrown a pig's head at Khan I could understand the outrage. Instead, lots of non-Muslims are prepared to be outraged on Khan's behalf because it suits their agenda.

[Kizzy]

What would the pig signify though?... What is the connotation?
It's meant to be an insult and a nod to his religion ergo it is Islamophobic.
Nothing do do with Kahn as a person.

This 'signing off' issue has to be addressed... there is no reason whatsoever why it couldn't be signed off... it wasn't obstructive, or pornographic, it broke no law and was applied for via the correct procedure.

There would've been more of an issue should it not have been allowed as that would be against the democratic right to protest.

Yes I see some think it's childish and insulting and yet I have heard very childish and insulting comments from trump himself ... so why would anyone have to pander to someone who exhibits so little respect for so many people?

Kahn, should he have had the final say ( which I highly doubt) was right to allow the balloon it's a visual metaphor... many are aggrieved that the leader of the free world is so unstatesmanlike. trump politics are more alien here than any immigrant. Our PM has never taken to twitter in the early hours for a rant... refused to talk with members of the press at a press conference or made disparaging comments about other world leaders.

He may be an old man but he's a very young president... who has no idea how to conduct himself accordingly.

[Tom4784]

Khan signed off on a large inflatable baby with Trump's face on it to be flown outside Parliament while the leader of the free world visited. Childish and insulting, whatever you think of Trump. So really, he can hardly complain about this or he's going to look ridiculously duplicitous. And all the furore about the pig in connection with Islam... Please. It isn't a real pig, you know that, right? If they'd have thrown a pig's head at Khan I could understand the outrage. Instead, lots of non-Muslims are prepared to be outraged on Khan's behalf because it suits their agenda.

I don't think it's comparable, if it was a mockup of a baby Khan in the similar vein as the Trump balloon then fair enough but the balloon in the picture is an attack on his religion, would you have honestly said the same thing if this was aimed at a jewish MP? That would have been just as much an anti-semitic attack as this is an islamophobic attack.

[Kizzy]

I don't think it's comparable, if it was a mockup of a baby Khan in the similar vein as the Trump balloon then fair enough but the balloon in the picture is an attack on his religion, would you have honestly said the same thing if this was aimed at a jewish MP? That would have been just as much an anti-semitic attack as this is an islamophobic attack.

Don't be silly... islamophobia does not exist! and for the context of antisemitism Muslims are not semites :/

[Northern Monkey]

‘Islamaphobia’ The UK’s new blasphemy law

[bots]

I still maintain the guy knew exactly what he was doing. But really, what has happened in the world when politicians are now seen as delicate little flowers that need to be protected.

[GoldHeart]

Why does he, Boris and trump all have the same terrible hair?

All that money and still crap hair