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Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:13 PM
Wait for the Poll :nono:

I will make it anonymous to people can be truthful :hee:


due to tremendous demand I clarify as follows

to clarify ...Yes is to leave the EU, No is to stay the same

Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 12:16 PM
Im not waiting for some Pole to tell me what to do

This is WHY we need Brexit

:mad:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:17 PM
Im not waiting for some Pole to tell me what to do

This is WHY we need Brexit

:mad:

No Pole will be telling you what to do, its a Poll!

I bet you wouldn't be saying that if you got a second Scottish Indy ref :hee:

vote on my poll :nono:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:19 PM
To clarify ...Yes is to leave the EU, No is to stay the same

Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 12:20 PM
No Pole will be telling you what to do, its a Poll!

I bet you wouldn't be saying that if you got a second Scottish Indy ref :hee:

vote on my poll :nono:

that cant come soon enough

I am sick of "English" rubbish politics

:hmph:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:20 PM
and btw we are not calling it a ref it's a

People's vote, this is all I have heard on my radio this morning...:umm2:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:21 PM
that cant come soon enough

I am sick of "English" rubbish politics

:hmph:

at least you are getting a space launch site :amazed: can't be all bad up there

Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 12:22 PM
at least you are getting a space launch site :amazed: can't be all bad up there

yes good news for the local economy


no doubt our Nic was behind it


:flutter:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:23 PM
yes good news for the local economy


no doubt our Nic was behind it


:flutter:

Theresa sent it to the far reaches of Scotland so English wildlife could live in peace :hehe:

bots
16-07-2018, 12:26 PM
and btw we are not calling it a ref it's a

People's vote, this is all I have heard on my radio this morning...:umm2:

another ref is coming .... its getting pretty obvious now. The hard brexit crew are going to have to work fast, and bring down May if they wish to avoid it. Will May last the week?

Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 12:27 PM
i just wonder if another vote would be

"well i am sick of all the brexit thing so lets just stay the same as seems easier but i still have no idea what the EU is any good for us"

Brillopad
16-07-2018, 12:27 PM
and btw we are not calling it a ref it's a

People's vote, this is all I have heard on my radio this morning...:umm2:

So not only do they blatantly ignore a public vote they add insult to injury by insulting everyone's intelligence by telling them it isn't a another referendum but a peoples' vote. What on earth do they think the first one was if not a peoples' vote? :shrug:

arista
16-07-2018, 12:31 PM
A back bencher has no power , Cherie.

If there were a 2nd EU ref how would you vote?

Dream On

Cal.
16-07-2018, 12:42 PM
I didn’t vote last time because I wasn’t old enough but I’d vote to Remain

Tom4784
16-07-2018, 12:47 PM
Same as last time but for different reasons. I think Brexit could work but not with the government we have in place.

Nicky91
16-07-2018, 12:49 PM
this brexit thing is a huge mess

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:49 PM
A back bencher has no power , Cherie.

If there were a 2nd EU ref how would you vote?

Dream On

:laugh: Just going on what has been on 5 Live all bloody morning, I don't care I have an EU passport either way :smug:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 12:50 PM
So not only do they blatantly ignore a public vote they add insult to injury by insulting everyone's intelligence by telling them it isn't a another referendum but a peoples' vote. What on earth do they think the first one was if not a peoples' vote? :shrug:


I know, crazy!

bots
16-07-2018, 12:52 PM
i'm in a quandary now. I voted to remain, but that wasn't the democratic result of the ref, so duty dictates I vote to leave if its held again. However, as leaving in a full manner seems to be against the wishes of the majority of the country, I think I would have to vote remain.

arista
16-07-2018, 01:05 PM
:laugh: Just going on what has been on 5 Live all bloody morning, I don't care I have an EU passport either way :smug:


Yes Debates on every media

Also today on DP BBC2HD.

But No 2nd Referendum

Vicky.
16-07-2018, 01:11 PM
Same as last time, which was to remain. However I would be more secure in my vote this time..I was still quite undecided up until the last minute last time as I was not even sure what the need was for the vote, let alone the implications..I fell a bit for the 'fake news!' and 'ignore the experts' rhetoric and couldn't work out if everyone was just talking ****e for their own ideological reasons or not. So yeah I was a reluctant remainer I would say. Where now I am firm on remaining.

At the same time though, I would feel I should vote to leave, as I think once the votes done it is done. Voting over and over until the desired result is reached is not good IMO. And I do feel a lot of people are a bit moany with the demands for another vote. But then, I think leavers would be exactly the same if a decision had been made with so little of a margin, and should we really take the vote as final given so many were deceived or just did not understand what they were voting for one way or the other?! (as an obvious example here I will use many people I know who voted leave, who thought for some odd reason that this would stop ALL immigration fullstop and that immigrants would be 'sent back to where they came from':rolleyes: But the lies and manipulation and just misunderstaing what the vote was for did not only go one way) Its complicated.

arista
16-07-2018, 01:14 PM
Just on BBCNewsHD live
saying there will not be another vote,


Cherie
No Funding
for any 2nd vote

Nicky91
16-07-2018, 01:16 PM
so this confirms the brexit will be official at some point

or am i wrong?

arista
16-07-2018, 01:18 PM
so this confirms the brexit will be official at some point

or am i wrong?


Friday 29th March 2019 11PM
Fecking FACT

Nicky91
16-07-2018, 01:22 PM
Friday 29th March 2019 11PM
Fecking FACT

a moment of history that will be

Cherie
16-07-2018, 01:32 PM
Just on BBCNewsHD live
saying there will not be another vote,


Cherie
No Funding
for any 2nd vote

wait and see, money will be found from somewhere :hehe:

Glenn.
16-07-2018, 01:59 PM
It would completely undermine what we call democracy should another referendum take place.

Shaun
16-07-2018, 02:06 PM
Misread this as "would you vote in a 2nd referendum" and clicked "yes, same as last time" but I voted to remain :p

Cherie
16-07-2018, 02:06 PM
I feel like we are being turned over by something cooked up by Bojo and May. Bojo resigns, May will throw it back to the country, country votes remain, May resigns as she really wanted Brexit.(not)..Bojo gets the PM job, job done...it might be fanciful but I have seen House of Cards :nono:

Crimson Dynamo
16-07-2018, 02:12 PM
I think, first, we should have a referendum to see if we want to have a second referendum

test the waters

Cherie
16-07-2018, 02:15 PM
I think, first, we should have a referendum to see if we want to have a second referendum

test the waters

We could also include a ‘would you like to cut Scotland adrift while the rest of the UK remains in the EU’ option

bots
16-07-2018, 02:17 PM
i've all but given up on Westminster. May was a remainer, so she clearly has a different view on what brexit means to others. What she considers a good deal, won't be considered that by others. The question is does she have a big enough consensus behind her in parliament to push it through or not .... is it acceptable to the EU or not. Either of those could kill her plan stone dead. If that is the place we end up, then its either a no deal or a referendum. By that point it will be all but a certainty it goes to a referendum

ethanjames
16-07-2018, 02:23 PM
i would vote remain though doubt a second vote would actually happen

arista
16-07-2018, 02:30 PM
wait and see, money will be found from somewhere :hehe:


No time to wait
you are a dreamer


Deal with Facts

arista
16-07-2018, 02:32 PM
We could also include a ‘would you like to cut Scotland adrift while the rest of the UK remains in the EU’ option


This is like a Chat and Games thread now

Northern Monkey
16-07-2018, 03:49 PM
I voted leave.However I didn’t vote Tory.

I think May could make a fudge of this and end up giving us the BRINO(brexit in name only) option.That would imo put us in the worst position.
I.E The ECJ or any part of the EU still having any authority over our trade,parliament or courts without us even having a vote in the EU.

I would vote leave again for a full Brexit where we are free to make our own trade deals and our Parliament being fully sovereign on all issues.

If it’s going to be some fudge where we still have to bow down to Juncker on certain things then i’d vote remain so we can atleast have a say.

smudgie
16-07-2018, 03:55 PM
I would vote leave again.
Then I wouldn't vote in the next general election:fist:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 03:56 PM
This is like a Chat and Games thread now

:laugh: you need to unplug and cool down

arista
16-07-2018, 03:59 PM
I voted leave.However I didn’t vote Tory.

I think May could make a fudge of this and end up giving us the BRINO(brexit in name only) option.That would imo put us in the worst position.
I.E The ECJ or any part of the EU still having any authority over our trade,parliament or courts without us even having a vote in the EU.

I would vote leave again for a full Brexit where we are free to make our own trade deals and our Parliament being fully sovereign on all issues.

If it’s going to be some fudge where we still have to bow down to Juncker on certain things then i’d vote remain so we can atleast have a say.

NM
There is a important new update today
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10091171#post10091171

Northern Monkey
16-07-2018, 04:16 PM
NM
There is a important new update today
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10091171#post10091171

Thanks arista.

Will have to catch-up on the DP to find out more.

jaxie
16-07-2018, 04:33 PM
We had a people's vote. It was to leave. I would vote leave again and anyone who believes in democracy would vote leave also.

Matthew.
16-07-2018, 04:35 PM
No, same as last time.

armand.kay
16-07-2018, 04:45 PM
is no remain?

Toy Soldier
16-07-2018, 04:52 PM
The options were "Leave" and "Remain" wtf is this poll Cherie. Just horrible. Delete.

Cherie
16-07-2018, 05:34 PM
The options were "Leave" and "Remain" wtf is this poll Cherie. Just horrible. Delete.

if you can't take the heat..

Cherie
16-07-2018, 05:35 PM
is no remain?

naturalment

Cherie
16-07-2018, 05:38 PM
To clarify ...Yes is to leave the EU, No is to stay the same

for those who can't read back for the rules of this game :fist:

Maru
16-07-2018, 05:39 PM
Bit of a haul for me...

Tom4784
16-07-2018, 05:43 PM
An actual image of people trying to decipher which poll option applies to them?

http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bcf.png

Black Dagger
16-07-2018, 05:45 PM
Remain obviously.

Cherie
16-07-2018, 07:52 PM
An actual image of people trying to decipher which poll option applies to them?

http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/bcf.png

:laugh:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 07:53 PM
How was I to know my thought process would be so confusing :fist:

LaLaLand
16-07-2018, 07:55 PM
Damn I picked the wrong option, meant to put yes (LEAVE) same as last time.

CONFUSING OPTIONS #BREGZIT

Withano
16-07-2018, 08:22 PM
both remainers and leavers voted on assumptions of what we thought it would be like

It would be good to have another vote after details have came out.


Also ‘A SECOND REFERENDUM IS UNDEMOCRATIC’ is bull****. If people voted remain 52:48, ukip wouldnt have disbanded lol. There would still be millions asking for a referendum, and it wouod have happened eventually.

Underscore
16-07-2018, 08:29 PM
I voted Remain last time and would vote Remain again.

Brillopad
16-07-2018, 08:42 PM
both remainers and leavers voted on assumptions of what we thought it would be like

It would be good to have another vote after details have came out.


Also ‘A SECOND REFERENDUM IS UNDEMOCRATIC’ is bull****. If people voted remain 52:48, ukip wouldnt have disbanded lol. There would still be millions asking for a referendum, and it wouod have happened eventually.

The old, old speil - ‘people didn’t know what they voted for’ says the great Brexit mind reader.

Withano
16-07-2018, 08:43 PM
The old, old speil - ‘people didn’t know what they voted for’ says the great Brexit mind reader.

Well you didnt.. nobody did.. im sorry youre not a mind reader? Stop quoting me and saying stupid ****, it isnt productive its annoying.

Brillopad
16-07-2018, 08:48 PM
Well you didnt.. nobody did.. im sorry youre not a mind reader? Stop quoting me and saying stupid ****, it isnt productive its annoying.

The quote button in red, you know at the bottom of your post, says I can. :hee:

It is productive if it calls out stupid sweeping statements that nobody knew what they were voting for and therefore a democratic vote should be ignored. :rolleyes:

bots
16-07-2018, 08:50 PM
Something also worth considering given the events of the last few days. We should be strengthening our ties with our european neighbours, not trying to break them up. #theworldischanging

Withano
16-07-2018, 08:50 PM
The quote button in red, you know at the bottom of your post, says I can. :hee:

It is productive if it calls out stupid sweeping statements that nobody knew what they were voting for and therefore a democratic vote should be ignored. :rolleyes:

You didnt know what you was voting for, there is no way that you possibly could have done, you are not able to see the future, nor can anybody else in the country.

Honestly think youre obsessed with me sometimes.

Brother Leon
16-07-2018, 08:50 PM
Remain. Just like last time. I’ve quite literally seen nothing since then to change my mind.

Brillopad
16-07-2018, 08:54 PM
You didnt know what you was voting for, there is no way that you possibly could have done, you are not able to see the future, nor can anybody else in the country.

Honestly think youre obsessed with me sometimes.

Don’t flatter yourself. It’s your constant attempts to persuade others that you know best that is rather annoying and invites a response. Good try at turning the tables on me though.

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 08:57 PM
i just wonder if another vote would be

"well i am sick of all the brexit thing so lets just stay the same as seems easier but i still have no idea what the EU is any good for us"

As usual you wise old owl, you have it in a nutshell. The all-powerful 'Remainers' have had an agenda to thwart, delay, obstruct and confuse since the result of the 'Referendum' went so unexpectedly against them, and May's B.S. 'Brexit' proposals are 'Remain' in all but name after two tortuous years, and are a complete and utter sell-out.

The Remainers ARE calculating on the public WANTING another 'Referendum' after all this bollox and are hoping - just as you say - that this time, enough of those who voted to leave will switch votes due to all the confusion, false information, and deceit of the last two years.

It is time for 'Remain'-voting May to go and a HARD Brexit leader to step in from among the 'Leave' politicians.

SOMEONE, ANYONE, to get us OUT of this money-draining,chaos-causing, country-destroying, corrupt, EU as soon as possible - WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED.

Cherie
16-07-2018, 09:03 PM
Something also worth considering given the events of the last few days. We should be strengthening our ties with our european neighbours, not trying to break them up. #theworldischanging

I thought that too, :worry:

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 09:09 PM
Something also worth considering given the events of the last few days. We should be strengthening our ties with our european neighbours, not trying to break them up. #theworldischanging

Can you expound on this, BOTS?

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 09:13 PM
Damn I picked the wrong option, meant to put yes (LEAVE) same as last time.

CONFUSING OPTIONS #BREGZIT

I'm confused now too, Jonnii. I'm LEAVE too but think I did the same as you.

Cherie
16-07-2018, 09:17 PM
I'm confused now too, Jonnii. I'm LEAVE too but think I did the same as you.

:joker:

Cherie
16-07-2018, 09:19 PM
To clarify ...Yes is to leave the EU, No is to stay the same

4th post in cos I thought might be confusing, it’s not my fault if people don’t read :hmph:

bots
16-07-2018, 09:26 PM
I'm confused now too, Jonnii. I'm LEAVE too but think I did the same as you.

i'ts remainers moving the goalposts again :fist::fist: :joker:

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 09:36 PM
The options were "Leave" and "Remain" wtf is this poll Cherie. Just horrible. Delete.

:laugh:

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 09:37 PM
i'ts remainers moving the goalposts again :fist::fist: :joker:

:laugh: Nothing would surprise me anymore, BOTS.

bots
16-07-2018, 09:39 PM
the government won the vote on the bill 305-302 so, no referendum for now ... not until the eu say no

kirklancaster
16-07-2018, 09:41 PM
4th post in cos I thought might be confusing, it’s not my fault if people don’t read :hmph:

:laugh: I KNOW what you meant now, but I did not know then that I knew what you meant or that I would know now. (Simples, uh Cherie? :laugh:)

Cherie
17-07-2018, 06:17 AM
my poll is like Brexit ... a mess :laugh:

arista
17-07-2018, 06:20 AM
The options were "Leave" and "Remain" wtf is this poll Cherie. Just horrible. Delete.


Yes its a mess of a poll.

Ammi
17-07-2018, 06:20 AM
...I have no idea Cherie, how I would vote in a 2nd referendum...to me, a second vote for anything would have to achieve something that the first vote didn’t....something the whole country agreed on in a way, I guess...?...but that isn’t going to happen no matter how many referendums were had...and referendums../..political vote and such the like are divisive by nature....they’re not designed for agreeing voices and agreeing political beliefs etc...anyways I just don’t see anything positive in having a second referendum...if the vote came out as Remain...?...the remain would still be an unknown territory the country were stepping into because of the original vote...what remain terms would the EU be looking for...the soft remain or the hard remain..:laugh:...because essentially we’ve rejected the EU so there would be consequences to that, surely...even if our remain were accepted..and all of the negations and all of the time etc...while we the people all wait to see if it’s all going to be ok...just another time of uncertainty....

...if the second vote resulted in a majority Brexit again..?...then the time, energy, focusing away from the Brexit terms would just extend the periods of uncertainty even more and what does that achieve because we still wouldn’t be a nation in agreement..?..for me it’s more, let’s just do it, it’s been decided so let’s go...let’s get things over with, let’s step out there because until we do and until we know what Brexit means...the good, the bad and the ugly...then we just won’t know...

...(...I think I would exercise my vote with the freedom of not voting...)...I’d be going out...out for the day or polishing my nails or something...not out to the poll station....there are things that deeply worry me with some intolerances that some Brexit votes seemed to have brought to the surface...I blame Nigel Farage for that...:fan:...but now they’re out there, they’re not going to go away with second a remain vote...they’re still going to be there is the thing...

Toy Soldier
17-07-2018, 07:00 AM
Indeed Ammi... Pandora's box is wedged open and the lid has been broken off. Another referendum / Staying in the EU isn't going to succeed in stuffing it all back in.

Cherie
17-07-2018, 08:39 AM
...I have no idea Cherie, how I would vote in a 2nd referendum...to me, a second vote for anything would have to achieve something that the first vote didn’t....something the whole country agreed on in a way, I guess...?...but that isn’t going to happen no matter how many referendums were had...and referendums../..political vote and such the like are divisive by nature....they’re not designed for agreeing voices and agreeing political beliefs etc...anyways I just don’t see anything positive in having a second referendum...if the vote came out as Remain...?...the remain would still be an unknown territory the country were stepping into because of the original vote...what remain terms would the EU be looking for...the soft remain or the hard remain..:laugh:...because essentially we’ve rejected the EU so there would be consequences to that, surely...even if our remain were accepted..and all of the negations and all of the time etc...while we the people all wait to see if it’s all going to be ok...just another time of uncertainty....

...if the second vote resulted in a majority Brexit again..?...then the time, energy, focusing away from the Brexit terms would just extend the periods of uncertainty even more and what does that achieve because we still wouldn’t be a nation in agreement..?..for me it’s more, let’s just do it, it’s been decided so let’s go...let’s get things over with, let’s step out there because until we do and until we know what Brexit means...the good, the bad and the ugly...then we just won’t know...

...(...I think I would exercise my vote with the freedom of not voting...)...I’d be going out...out for the day or polishing my nails or something...not out to the poll station....there are things that deeply worry me with some intolerances that some Brexit votes seemed to have brought to the surface...I blame Nigel Farage for that...:fan:...but now they’re out there, they’re not going to go away with second a remain vote...they’re still going to be there is the thing...

It wasn't that deep Ammi, it was just a straw poll to see how many would change their mind or vote this time round, personally I think time is a great healer and I think both sides are now just get on with it or stay in but just get it done

Cherie
17-07-2018, 08:40 AM
Indeed Ammi... Pandora's box is wedged open and the lid has been broken off. Another referendum / Staying in the EU isn't going to succeed in stuffing it all back in.

Nobody said having another ref would stuff it back in where on earth did you get that idea?

The indy ref was divisive in Scotland as well, and people got over it, time just moves on and people move on to worry about something else

the consensus among those wanting a second ref is that there is more information out there now and the practicalties of what people will lose are beginning to hit home, and also we are more aware of what we will gain, nobody is suggesting that the second ref would be any less divisive than the first one

Livia
17-07-2018, 09:42 AM
According to the poll, more people wouldn't bother to vote than would vote.

You have nothing to complain about then.

arista
17-07-2018, 10:09 AM
Indeed Ammi... Pandora's box is wedged open and the lid has been broken off. Another referendum / Staying in the EU isn't going to succeed in stuffing it all back in.


That would undermine
the current Deal.
So no 2nd waste of our time.

29th March 11AM Friday 2019
Your back office must be ready TS

armand.kay
17-07-2018, 11:06 AM
According to the poll, more people wouldn't bother to vote than would vote.

You have nothing to complain about then.

I think a few people (me) are just waiting for someone to decipher the poll options before they vote

Cherie
17-07-2018, 11:10 AM
I think a few people (me) are just waiting for someone to decipher the poll options before they vote

can you read... post 4 on the first page

to clarify ...Yes is to leave the EU, No is to stay the same

I already reposted this when you moaned the last time...do you want me to hold your hand through the process of ticking a box
__________________

armand.kay
17-07-2018, 11:12 AM
can you read... post 4 on the first page

ah thanks maybe put it in the OP

Cherie
17-07-2018, 11:13 AM
According to the poll, more people wouldn't bother to vote than would vote.

You have nothing to complain about then.

According to official polls nothing would change either

Cherie
17-07-2018, 11:13 AM
ah thanks maybe put it in the OP

:laugh: okey dokie

bots
17-07-2018, 11:17 AM
can you make sure its in bold large print too Cherie, wouldn't want people getting confused :dog:

Cherie
17-07-2018, 11:57 AM
can you make sure its in bold large print too Cherie, wouldn't want people getting confused :dog:

:laugh: never ever ever making a poll again, I have learned a valuable lesson

Vicky.
17-07-2018, 01:17 PM
OK have edited this poll to make a bit more sense, sorry Cherie :p It was quite confusing tbh, would have thought yes was remain :laugh:

Let me know if I edited it right, as tbh I am still fairly confused ov er the options so may have done it the wrong way :laugh:

Cherie
17-07-2018, 01:27 PM
OK have edited this poll to make a bit more sense, sorry Cherie :p It was quite confusing tbh, would have thought yes was remain :laugh:

Let me know if I edited it right, as tbh I am still fairly confused ov er the options so may have done it the wrong way :laugh:

Looks fine thanks Vicky, I can't help it if people don't want to read :tongue:

Vicky.
17-07-2018, 01:28 PM
Looks fine thanks Vicky, I can't help it if people don't want to read :tongue:

I know, was just confusing and I had read the clarification and still got confused about it all :joker:

Ashley.
17-07-2018, 01:32 PM
Same as I did last time, as I imagine most would, effectively making a second referendum a gigantic waste of time.

Cherie
17-07-2018, 01:34 PM
Same as I did last time, as I imagine most would, effectively making a second referendum a gigantic waste of time.

but what about all these people who apparently didn't vote, the official polls are the same so it makes liars out of people saying they don't want Brexit

Vicky.
17-07-2018, 01:39 PM
but what about all these people who apparently didn't vote, the official polls are the same so it makes liars out of people saying they don't want Brexit

Yeah a lot seemingly didn't vote as they either couldn't be arsed or thought their vote wouldn't make a difference anyway, with how close it was..I think every vote counts tbh

Cherie
17-07-2018, 01:58 PM
Yeah a lot seemingly didn't vote as they either couldn't be arsed or thought their vote wouldn't make a difference anyway, with how close it was..I think every vote counts tbh

well that was the spin that went out, and that it was all old people voted for Brexit and they would be dead etc, two years later alot of them will be dead and many will have turned 18 so how come the official polls says pretty much no change...makes no sense at all

Tom4784
17-07-2018, 02:35 PM
Tbh though, I've seen a lot of leavers pulling for another referendum since they don't want a soft brexit. It's not all 'GRRR EVIL REMAINERS NOT AGREEING WITH DEMOCRACY!'.

Remember that the demand for this new referendum largely came about after news of a likely soft brexit came out.

Cherie
17-07-2018, 03:24 PM
Tbh though, I've seen a lot of leavers pulling for another referendum since they don't want a soft brexit. It's not all 'GRRR EVIL REMAINERS NOT AGREEING WITH DEMOCRACY!'.

Remember that the demand for this new referendum largely came about after news of a likely soft brexit came out.

That is neither here nor there though, the official polls show that the original decision to leave would more or less stand as people haven't changed their stance since the last ref, so if they are to be believed young voters are not changing the outcome.

Vicky.
17-07-2018, 08:31 PM
well that was the spin that went out, and that it was all old people voted for Brexit and they would be dead etc, two years later alot of them will be dead and many will have turned 18 so how come the official polls says pretty much no change...makes no sense at all

It was quite clear there was a large age divide on it. I did find the 'they will be dead soon, they shouldn't have a vote' stuff pretty vile though. It really depends on how the official polls are worded. And WHERE they are getting done too.

I guess its possible that those who were a couple of years too young to vote would have actually voted leave...but from the stats we have, this would be very very unusual given the sliding scale of age/voting intention.

I think even with another vote, it would be a case of the young mainly do not vote, tbh. Voting has pretty much always been an older person thing, I say while I voted as soon as I was able to and was rather excited about being adult enough to do so :laugh:

arista
17-07-2018, 11:50 PM
No 2nd Vote will happen
you are Deluded to think it would?

Labour
and UKIP votes have gone up in a new Poll.
Of course UKIP still have no MP's, at this time.
As the 2017 Election was Get out of the Custom Union & the Single market
so the PM May with the DUP got power. (Hung Parliament for a Day)
So at that time UKIP were not needed etc.

So Conservatives
are not permitting any 2nd vote.
All they can do is a General Election
(which is another 2nd Referendum within it )

No one is willing to take the PM's place , yet.


Sign Of The Times.

Marsh.
18-07-2018, 12:08 AM
Can somebody explain the options in English please?

Marsh.
18-07-2018, 12:09 AM
:smug:

arista
18-07-2018, 12:30 AM
my poll is like Brexit ... a mess :laugh:


You Said
some sense
on your own thread.

Cherie
18-07-2018, 05:42 AM
You Said
some sense
on your own thread.

how dare you Sir, I always speak sense :fist:

bots
18-07-2018, 06:11 AM
my poll is like Brexit ... a mess :laugh:

i hope you kept all relevant invoices and can account for Vicky's unplanned time :smug:

James
18-07-2018, 06:58 AM
I think I should completely reset this poll.

Toy Soldier
18-07-2018, 07:03 AM
I think I should completely reset this poll.The public have made their choice so this is undemocratic. The results of Cherie's nonsense poll must stand so let's just get on with the business at hand etc.

Ammi
18-07-2018, 07:09 AM
The public have made their choice so this is undemocratic. The results of Cherie's nonsense poll must stand so let's just get on with the business at hand etc.

..ok well at least Cherie has to resign or something and pass the poll and thread on to Withano ...let him sort it all out...this messy stuff...

Brillopad
18-07-2018, 07:13 AM
The public have made their choice so this is undemocratic. The results of Cherie's nonsense poll must stand so let's just get on with the business at hand etc.

Talk about opportunistic.

arista
18-07-2018, 07:18 AM
..ok well at least Cherie has to resign or something and pass the poll and thread on to Withano ...let him sort it all out...this messy stuff...


how nice

Brillopad
18-07-2018, 07:20 AM
..ok well at least Cherie has to resign or something and pass the poll and thread on to Withano ...let him sort it all out...this messy stuff...

Only if you want messy and biased.

James
18-07-2018, 07:26 AM
Vote again in the poll, when it appears.

Ammi
18-07-2018, 07:31 AM
Only if you want messy and biased.

..well we’re all ‘messy’ and we’re all biased, Brillo...because we’re all human and it kind of goes with the territory..it comes as a package deal...so Withano would seem like as good a choice as anyone...because (..apparently..)...Cherie’s poll has been particularly, more than average ...allegedly...I mean when James steps in to do some tweaking....she wasn’t having a great day with polls, we might say...


...(...obviously she can’t be perfection at everything all of the time as...human, you know...)...

Ammi
18-07-2018, 07:34 AM
...I don’t understand the questions...sorry this is a rubbish poll, James... very misleading and confusing...I’m going to stick with Cherie’s one I reckon...

Brillopad
18-07-2018, 07:35 AM
..well we’re all ‘messy’ and we’re all biased, Brillo...because we’re all human and it kind of goes with the territory..it comes as a package deal...so Withano would seem like as good a choice as anyone...because (..apparently..)...Cherie’s poll has been particularly, more than average ...allegedly...I mean when James steps in to do some tweaking....she wasn’t having a great day with polls, we might say...


...(...obviously she can’t be perfection at everything all of the time as...human, you know...)...

I know Ammi but some are more biased than others. Someone more neutral would be preferable in my opinion. No slants.

Ammi
18-07-2018, 07:36 AM
...oh you sneaky devil, you just merged the threads and replaced your poll..:laugh:...is this a sexist thing, James...?...is this a men make better polls, thing..?...

James
18-07-2018, 07:37 AM
...I don’t understand the questions...sorry this is a rubbish poll, James... very misleading and confusing...I’m going to stick with Cherie’s one I reckon...

I've modified the question a little.

arista
18-07-2018, 08:15 AM
I've modified the question a little.


The numbers have changed
how shocking for Cherie

James
18-07-2018, 08:24 AM
The numbers have changed
how shocking for Cherie

This was the previous result.

Cherie
18-07-2018, 08:56 AM
i hope you kept all relevant invoices and can account for Vicky's unplanned time :smug:

she owns me a freebie for being so fabulous

Cherie
18-07-2018, 08:58 AM
My poll has been tampered with, it's like real life D:

Cherie
18-07-2018, 08:59 AM
Can somebody explain the options in English please?

well they were in English, now they are in some strange Scottish tongues

arista
18-07-2018, 09:17 AM
well they were in English, now they are in some strange Scottish tongues


Marsh meant what TS said
they were in a muddle.

Its got bugger all to being Scottish


Its Common Sense

arista
18-07-2018, 09:17 AM
This was the previous result.


A Well Balanced Admin

Cherie
18-07-2018, 09:20 AM
Marsh meant what TS said
they were in a muddle.

Its got bugger all to being Scottish


Its Common Sense

Vicky changed my poll yesterday so Marsh was commenting on that poll, nothing to do with me :smug:

arista
18-07-2018, 09:24 AM
Vicky changed my poll yesterday so Marsh was commenting on that poll, nothing to do with me :smug:


So you 2 women
made a Utter mess of it.



Life In The Fast Lane

Cherie
18-07-2018, 12:32 PM
So you 2 women
made a Utter mess of it.



Life In The Fast Lane

We did it on purpose to bamboozle the male brains. :hehe:I think its time to unearth your women working thread :laugh: