Vote Leave BROKE electoral law - referred to the police

[Smithy]

Brexit campaign group Vote Leave has been fined £61,000 and referred to the police after an Electoral Commission probe said it broke electoral law.

The watchdog said it exceeded its £7m spending limit by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave.

The founder of BeLeave, Darren Grimes, has been fined £20,000 and referred to the police, along with Vote Leave official David Halsall.
The result of the referendum was 51.9% for Leave and 48.1% for Remain. The UK is due to officially leave the European Union at 23:00 GMT on 29 March, 2019.

The referendum was not legally binding, merely "advisory," according to a Supreme Court judgement in December 2016 , so it can't be ordered to be re-run by a court - any decision to have a fresh referendum would have to be made by the government and Parliament would have to pass a referendum act.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-politics-44856992#click=https://t.co/1jWE9x7lKd


Is anyone really surprised? It was always Brexit before Britain with some people

[Greg!]

I'm sure a £61,000 fine will greatly affect the millionaire elites who lead the campaign. What a disgrace

[reece(:]

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[Withano]

Anyone could win by cheating. Us lefties would never consider it and now we’re all leaving the EU and going straight to hell.

[kirklancaster]

LMFAO - This is not only further proof of the powers of those rich and powerful 'Remainers' who have a vested interest in thwarting Brexit but also an example of how deep into Government, The Executive, and Public Services their tendrils penetrate - not to mention the media.

Prime Minister David Cameron spent almost £10 MILLION pounds of TAX-PAYERS money producing and publishing his anti-Brexit Pamphlet of Lies and cynically timed its delivery to every household in the UK just a few days BEFORE the 'Official Campaign' started so that it could be legally argued that the £10 million did not count as campaign fund 'expenditure' when anyone with both brains and honesty KNEW full well that it was, indeed.

If only the 'Leave' campaign had had access to £10 million pounds of Tax-Payers hard-earned to spend on their campaign instead of relying on donations, but then again, you could bet your life that had this BEEN the case, that £10 million would DEFINITELY have been ruled by the 'powers-that-be' as Campaign Funds Expenditure.

[MB.]

LMFAO - This is not only further proof of the powers of those rich and powerful 'Remainers' who have a vested interest in thwarting Brexit but also an example of how deep into Government, The Executive, and Public Services their tendrils penetrate - not to mention the media.

Actually it's proof of Vote Leave breaking electoral law by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave, but I hope that tin foil hat of yours is comfortable!

[Ammi]

Anyone could win by cheating. Us lefties would never consider it and now we’re all leaving the EU and going straight to hell.

...and we might get charged a few extra Euro’s for going straight to hell as we won’t have EU passports..

[Smithy]

Actually it's proof of Vote Leave breaking electoral law by funnelling £675,315 through pro-Brexit youth group BeLeave, but I hope that tin foil hat of yours is comfortable!

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Like?! Take off the rose tinted glasses, it’s so embarassing

[Oliver_W]

I'm sure a £61,000 fine will greatly affect the millionaire elites who lead the campaign. What a disgrace

Do you think the elites behind the campaign should have been left poor by the fines?

[Greg!]

Do you think the elites behind the campaign should have been left poor by the fines?

Not necessarily, but the fine is far too low to have a significant impact on them

[Beso]

Vote stay shouldnt even have been allowed funding...we all know what its like being tied to the eu, what on earth can they teach us that we didnt already know?


They just wasted their money refuting stuff...

[Smithy]

Vote stay shouldnt even have been allowed funding...we all know what its like being tied to the eu, what on earth can they teach us that we didnt already know?


They just wasted their money refuting stuff...

Just ignore the actual topic then....

[Beso]

Just ignore the actual topic then....

Oh...they are naughty....but what the **** do you expect fgs.

[Smithy]

Oh...they are naughty....but what the **** do you expect fgs.

Umm, them not to break the law?

[Tom4784]

I'm not surprised. Certain Remain groups could be guilty of the same but there's no proof of such things and it's not what this thread is about.

To try to turn this thread into a stick to hit remainers with is a desperate reach. How truly blinkered one's view must be to simply not accept that this organisation was in the wrong just because of their political allegiance. It doesn't matter which side of the coin they fell on, they broke the law.

[Oliver_W]

Vote stay shouldnt even have been allowed funding...we all know what its like being tied to the eu, what on earth can they teach us that we didnt already know?


They just wasted their money refuting stuff...

Well, no.

We know what life is like now, but we don't know what aspects of life are due to the EU, or what might go away without our membership. Both sides of the argument should have had their say, by pointing out the plusses of their own side.

[bots]

the rules are there for a reason. To ensure a fair vote, and they broke the rules. As I recall, the remain camp broke rules too although not to the same extent.

[Liberty4eva]

Anyone could win by cheating. Us lefties would never consider it and now we’re all leaving the EU and going straight to hell.

This is satire, right?

[Jack_]

So they break electoral law and don't forget they also outed the guy who blew the whistle on them in the first place, endangering in his family in the process

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/shahmir-sanni-vote-leave-brexit-campaign-outing-lgbt-pakistan-stephen-parkinson-a8273171.html

Lovely bunch of people!

[Jack_]

Oh and how could I forget the allegations that Nigel Farage deliberately made a statement saying he thought remain would win despite being privy to private polling showing otherwise, all in a bid to short the pound so his wealthy friends made a fortune gambling on the market

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/nigel-farage-brexit-hedge-funds-short-pound/

And then this leaked photo of him looking delighted at the pound dropping on referendum night

https://images.archant.co.uk/image/policy:1.5581230:1530174219/faragenew-jpg.jpg?f=default&h=421&w=630&$p$f$h$w=f8e78d2

Again, wonderful people!

[jaxie]

This seems very biased and one sided when you consider remain was spending taxpayers money on theirs. In fact vote remain did exactly the same thing as leave with more money and siphoned it into sub campaigns. So not really seeing the scandal here tbh.

Read an interesting article about it this morning actually.

https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/

[arista]

So they break electoral law and don't forget they also outed the guy who blew the whistle on them in the first place, endangering in his family in the process

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/shahmir-sanni-vote-leave-brexit-campaign-outing-lgbt-pakistan-stephen-parkinson-a8273171.html

Lovely bunch of people!



Yes he is 24 and was on all the TV News yesterday.
He said he is broke
and needs funding...........................(he said on LBC James O'Brien )

[arista]

Oh and how could I forget the allegations that Nigel Farage deliberately made a statement saying he thought remain would win despite being privy to private polling showing otherwise, all in a bid to short the pound so his wealthy friends made a fortune gambling on the market

https://inews.co.uk/news/brexit/nigel-farage-brexit-hedge-funds-short-pound/

And then this leaked photo of him looking delighted at the pound dropping on referendum night

https://images.archant.co.uk/image/policy:1.5581230:1530174219/faragenew-jpg.jpg?f=default&h=421&w=630&$p$f$h$w=f8e78d2

Again, wonderful people!


Yes was on BBC2HD DP last week
allegations
he said are not true.

[Brillopad]

This seems very biased and one sided when you consider remain was spending taxpayers money on theirs. In fact vote remain did exactly the same thing as leave with more money and siphoned it into sub campaigns. So not really seeing the scandal here tbh.

Read an interesting article about it this morning actually.

https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/

The blatant hypocricy leaves a very bad taste in the mouth. Who are they trying to kid - themselves perhaps! It seems there are no lengths too low that the remain campaigners will not sink to to get their way.

[smudgie]

Just one of 37 investigations involving other people as well.
For me the news is why were they found guilty when they had already been cleared twice.:shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh dear

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/labour-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

[Beso]

oh dear

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/labour-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

Like i said....wtf do you expect from a load of politicians.

[Brillopad]

oh dear

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/25/labour-fined-20000-for-undeclared-election-spending-including-for-ed-stone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42411144

Those layers of moral high ground are rapidly being peeled away. :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I wonder how Labour scandals affect this story in any way shape or form? Does digging for articles somehow make this Leave organisation less guilty of their crimes, I wonder?

[kirklancaster]

This seems very biased and one sided when you consider remain was spending taxpayers money on theirs. In fact vote remain did exactly the same thing as leave with more money and siphoned it into sub campaigns. So not really seeing the scandal here tbh.

Read an interesting article about it this morning actually.

https://order-order.com/2018/03/26/remain-campaign-used-exactly-spending-tactics-vote-leave-far-worse/

:nono: Don't be confusing any 'Rose-Tinted- glasses' wearing 'Remainers' with actual FACTS Jaxie.

[Livia]

If anyone is labouring under the misapprehension that the Electoral Commission only ever has problems with Tory returns, you're wrong. Like I've said before, most problems with expenses returns are because of ignorance rather than planning.

[kirklancaster]

Just one of 37 investigations involving other people as well.
For me the news is why were they found guilty when they had already been cleared twice.:shrug:

Surely this 'about-face' has nothing to do with covert 'pressure' from any 'pro-EU' Brexit-Saboteurs, Smudgie.

[Livia]

The trouble is that returns for all parties are more and more completed by amateurs because the parties don't want to pay for a professional. If there's any points scoring between the parties to be done, election expenses anomalies is not the fight to pick. They affect every party and will continue to do so until the parties cough up for qualified agents.