are some foods too gay?

[Twosugars]

Thoughts?

Eating bananas whole is ... gay? Fragile masculinity's bizarre new 'hetiquette'
Arwa Mahdawi

Rapper Wiz Khalifa’s insistence that ‘you gotta break it in pieces, bro’ is but one example of gender expectations affecting food
Fri 20 Jul 2018 18.44 BST Last modified on Fri 20 Jul 2018 21.29 BST

Rapper Wiz Khalifa thinks heterosexual men shouldn’t eat bananas straight out of the peel. Khalifa shared his fruity thoughts on the Breakfast Club radio show earlier this week, telling host Charlamagne Tha God that men should break their bananas into little bits. It’s simple “hetiquette”.

“If you bite into a banana, you sus,” Khalifa said. “Sus” is slang for suspect, and in this instance, seems to be implying that eating a banana whole is a gay thing to do.

When Charlamagne protested “it’s just fruit”, Khalifa doubled down on his assertions. “You gotta break it in pieces bro … gotta break the banana in half. I’m just trying to help you out, bro. If you’re in public, just break it into pieces.”

Khalifa’s comments haven’t gone down well on the internet, with a lot of people pointing out that being afraid that eating a banana makes you look “gay” is the very essence of toxic masculinity.

Khalifa isn’t the only celebrity to have demonstrated, via food, just how fragile their masculinity is. In 2016, Richard Hammond, a very manly, very heterosexual man who drives fast cars on the Amazon motoring show The Grand Tour, said he didn’t eat ice-cream: “It’s something to do with being straight.”

Hammond served these bizarre thoughts up to a live studio audience who applauded him. He then continued: “Ice-cream is a bit – you know. There’s nothing wrong with it, but a grown man eating an ice-cream – it’s that way, rather than that way …”

After facing a backlash for his comments, Hammond said he didn’t know what the big deal was. “When I hear of people in the media coming out, I think, why do they even feel the need to mention it? It is so old-fashioned to make a big deal of it. That isn’t even an interesting thing to say at a dinner party any more.” Facts disagree with Hammond’s feelings: LGBT students are two to three times more likely to be physically assaulted or threatened at schools than their straight peers. Despite great strides in LGBT acceptance, a 2017 report found that rates of homophobic and transphobic bullying in schools are at an “unprecedented high”.

Do real men eat quiche?
Khalifa and Hammond may be more outspoken about their views on how gender connects with food than the average person, but research has shown that men edit their food and drink choices every day to conform to gender expectations.

A 2010 study, Real Men Don’t Eat Quiche, found that when men have to make a snap decision about what they consume, they choose whatever their intrinsic preference is, even if it’s coded “feminine”. They’ll opt for that tasty pink drink at the bar instead of a more manly-seeming whiskey, for example.

When men have more time to consider a decision, however, they start thinking about the social implications of transgressing gender norms, and choose something that conforms more to a masculine gender identity. They’ll order the whiskey even if that isn’t really what they want.

James Wilkie, assistant professor of marketing at University of Notre Dame, who co-authored the study, explains that women aren’t as sensitive about making appropriate choices because they’re not penalized in the same way that men are. “If anything,” says Wilkie, “a woman might get compliments if she orders a more manly drink at the bar.” We live in a culture which rewards acting in stereotypically ‘male’ ways and punishes ‘female’ behaviour. Sad as it may be, this extends to the manner in which you eat a banana.

[Niamh.]

Eating a banana whole? Like not even biting it? :o

[Nicky91]

i think you would most likely choke if you eat a banana whole :o


i usually chop it up and put it in my yoghurt for example

[Twosugars]

LOL, no, they mean eating it out of the skin by chomping on the whole banana bit by bit
apparently you meant to break it up with your hands first, not your gob

[Niamh.]

LOL, no, they mean eating it out of the skin by chomping on the whole banana bit by bit
apparently you meant to break it up with your hands first, not your gob

But your hands would get sticky then, this makes no sense :oh:

[smudgie]

Utter bollox.:joker:

[AnnieK]

Look someone in the eye when you're eating a banana and it feels just wrong lol. But no, it has to be eaten whole or sliced but not broken up by hand....that's just messy

[arista]

Utter bollox.:joker:

Yes Food is Food.

[Nicky91]

i never break my banana up with my hands, if i eat one during lunch, i just eat it bit for bit

[Twosugars]

But your hands would get sticky then, this makes no sense :oh:

Better that than have your masculinity questioned :joker:

[Withano]

Think it only counts if you look the guy on the bus directly in the eye as you do it

[Twosugars]

Look someone in the eye when you're eating a banana and it feels just wrong lol. But no, it has to be eaten whole or sliced but not broken up by hand....that's just messy

Embracing the shaft of a banana with your lips while gazing meaningfully into someone's eyes :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Better that than have your masculinity questioned :joker:

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Utter bollox.:joker:

.

[Twosugars]

the examples of the rapper and hammond are laughable
but I do think some men would never dream of ordering a girly looking cocktail so they don't look silly

[Withano]

Although I think ‘Wiz’ has the opposite logic (in that it happens and we should watch out for that), I do agree that it happens.

When I was younger, I genuinely thought beer was for males and wine was for females. It still goes on to a lesser extent, and its difficult to believe beer or wine is anybodys favourite flavour beverage.

[Calderyon]

You peel the skin off, and then break up pieces of it and eat.

[Twosugars]

break up pieces with what? mouth or fingers?

[Calderyon]

Using your hands, of course.

[Twosugars]

Using your hands, of course.

Cald proves the point

[Toy Soldier]

I'd probably stare deep into my wife's eyes and give that banana the blowjob of its fruity life just to see her make this face: D:

That's what REAL straight people do :hmph:

[bots]

it's only an issue if you are a pervert watching

[ArgyESC]

When I eat a banana I never chop it up, I eat it like a slut :joker:
Unless I add chocolate spread.

[Nicky91]

When I eat a banana I never chop it up, I eat it like a slut :joker:
Unless I add chocolate spread.

chocolate and banana is a good combo

[ArgyESC]

chocolate and banana is a good combo

Yas

[Cherie]

it's only an issue if you are a pervert watching

:joker:

[smudgie]

I love a banana sarnie. Well buttered bread.
When I was pregnant with my firstborn I used to pour treacle over it as well. :yuk:

[Oliver_W]

I don't think someone called "Wiz" is in any position yo talk about things being too gay.

[Lostie!]

I'd probably stare deep into my wife's eyes and give that banana the blowjob of its fruity life

https://78.media.tumblr.com/f3e5d1029c33f95e7bf230297d60c73a/tumblr_nphl1k3Ves1rgvfxho1_500.gif

[reece(:]

Lemme order a gay takeaway tonight

[Beso]

https://goo.gl/images/k7QeFe

[Rob!]

Eating a banana whole? Like not even biting it? :o

Don’t be modest you :smug:

[Shaun]

Masculinity is so fragile :laugh:

[Cherie]

Oh this is in SD, I didnt realise

[kirklancaster]

Embracing the shaft of a banana with your lips while gazing meaningfully into someone's eyes :laugh:

I prefer sexual partners who are weird; Embracing my shaft with their lips while gazing meaningfully at a banana. :hehe:

[Tom4784]

Straight men are weird.

[ArgyESC]

Oh this is in SD, I didnt realise

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/366224956536913930.png?v=1

[Cherie]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/366224956536913930.png?v=1

Please make it stop :laugh:

[Beso]

Straight men are weird.

Thats offensive.

[kirklancaster]

Fairy Cakes, Fruit scones, Oven Bottom Cakes, Angel Fingers, Ginger Biscuits, Mince Pies, Queen Cakes, Rainbow Rollover Cake, Puff Pastries, Turnovers, Upside Down Cake, Cupcakes, Cheesecake - are any of these 'too gay?

I won't mention; Cheesy Nibbles or an 18" Meat Feast Pizza

[hijaxers]

Yes Food is Food.

Too right

Bloody gay food what a joke.

[Shaun]

Fudge.

Fudge is gay.

[hijaxers]

Fudge.

Fudge is gay.

Thought that was just the packers.

[Tom4784]

The following to be played whenever a man is seen with a cucumber in his trolley whilst shopping?

s0kqobQRcUo

[kirklancaster]

The following to be played whenever a man is seen with a cucumber in his trolley whilst shopping?

s0kqobQRcUo

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Serious Debates & News + Celebrity Discussion about political, moral and philosophical topics in this forum, and what is happening in the news. Also now includes posts from old celebrity news forum.

[Niamh.]

Don’t be modest you :smug:

:smug:

[Tom4784]

Serious Debates & News + Celebrity Discussion about political, moral and philosophical topics in this forum, and what is happening in the news. Also now includes posts from old celebrity news forum.

Come sit down and have a bagel.

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[Niamh.]

Fairy Cakes, Fruit scones, Oven Bottom Cakes, Angel Fingers, Ginger Biscuits, Mince Pies, Queen Cakes, Rainbow Rollover Cake, Puff Pastries, Turnovers, Upside Down Cake, Cupcakes, Cheesecake - are any of these 'too gay?

I won't mention; Cheesy Nibbles or an 18" Meat Feast Pizza

Oven bottom cakes, boots with the fur

[Cherie]

Come sit down and have a bagel.

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No I have complained to admin instead, members have been warned about posting smilies as responses to threads, I expect you will be infracted? in some parallel universe obviously

[Nicky91]

this is a food news article, check the OP otherwise Cherie


and because it's news it belongs in SD

[Cherie]

this is a food news article, check the OP otherwise Cherie


and because it's news it belongs in SD

Lets let Josy handle this eh, it is getting a bit confusing as this is more like general chat now, but then I guess that is the idea....

[Nicky91]

Lets let Josy handle this eh, it is getting a bit confusing as this is more like general chat now, but then I guess that is the idea....

if not SD, then celebrities since it features a few celebrities in the article, Wiz Khalifa and Richard Hammond

[Cherie]

if not SD, then celebrities since it features a few celebrities in the article, Wiz Khalifa and Richard Hammond

is that you Josy?

[Nicky91]

is that you Josy?

no, and you're right maybe Josy should look into this, wether this thread belongs in general chat or in SD/Celebrities

[RichardG]

I used to see how much of a banana I could fit down my throat when I was younger out of curiosity. I suppose that was a bit gay. Otherwise I just peel a bit of the skin off and eat it bit by bit I guess, I’ve never really put much thought into it.

[Cherie]

no, and you're right maybe Josy should look into this, wether this thread belongs in general chat or in SD/Celebrities

I think it started out as an SD thread but the mention of a banana seemed to tip people over the edge

[Twosugars]

excuse me, the op piece poses serious questions about the idea that men edit their food and drink choices every day to conform to gender expectations
I was hoping that would be discussed wider than it has been so far

[Cherie]

excuse me, the op piece poses serious questions about the idea that men edit their food and drink choices every day to conform to gender expectations
I was hoping that would be discussed wider than it has been so far

That is my point also....see post above yours! I didn't realise it was in SD when I posted due to the answers....

[Twosugars]

That is my point also....see post above yours!

I can't help it that the banana example is there tho :shrug:
It gets more interesting as you read it further

[Cherie]

I can't help it that the banana example is there tho :shrug:
It gets more interesting as you read it further

I am not talking about the OP, I already said it was an interesting topic


The point you made about girly cocktails is a good one

[Matthew.]

tbf, i would have put it in General Chat

[Twosugars]

oh, put it wherever you want it, I'm done creating threads :(

[Twosugars]

I am not talking about the OP, I already said it was an interesting topic


The point you made about girly cocktails is a good one

thank you Cherie
I guess the topic needs our hetero men to voice their opinions
where is Kirk when you need him?

[Nicky91]

oh, put it wherever you want it, I'm done creating threads :(

no sweetie, you had good intentions putting this in SD as it seemed an interesting story to you, and usually if something doesn't belong in SD Niamh, Dezzy or another mod would move it to where it does belong, and you didn't hear them complain honestly

[Matthew.]

i mean it’s not as if it really matters though is it

[Twosugars]

i mean it’s not as if it really matters though is it

Exactly! It doesn't matter.
So Matthew do you avoid ordering girly drinks for example?

[Beso]

What y'all sayin about girly cocktails?

[bots]

i used to drink Pernod and blackcurrent without regard to its sexual orientation :laugh:

[Nicky91]

i used to drink Pernod and blackcurrent without regard to its sexual orientation :laugh:

i have that flavour in my fruit tea now, blackcurrent and cherry

[Beso]

i used to drink Pernod and blackcurrent without regard to its sexual orientation :laugh:

Gay drink...you can turn pernod all the colours of the rainbow by adding different mixers.

[Twosugars]

oh, put it wherever you want it, I'm done creating threads :(

Sorreh for that childish tantrum :shocked:

[Northern Monkey]

I look masculine af when i eat a Cadbury cream egg

[Twosugars]

when started drinking wasn't that keen on beer and lager, but had it bc that what men drink
developed a taste for it later

[Smithy]

Men who do any of those things are the weakest kind of men

[hijaxers]

i used to drink Pernod and blackcurrent without regard to its sexual orientation :laugh:

Was that not called ' A granny on a bike' ???

[hijaxers]

i have that flavour in my fruit tea now, blackcurrent and cherry

Not really Nicky Pernod is aniseed and really should be mixed with coco cola - looks like cold tea :laugh: tastes like nectar from the gods.

[Cherie]

What y'all sayin about girly cocktails?

Is that you Parm :love:

[Nicky91]

Cherie you being proved right, it does belong in general chat

[Twosugars]

Cherie you being proved right, it does belong in general chat

It's past six, off you go :fist:

[Cherie]

Cherie you being proved right, it does belong in general chat

me for mod?

[bots]

me for mod?
http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar65979_15.gif

[Beso]

Is that you Parm :love:

Yeah...4 yrs ago though...look more rugged and slimline now.

[kirklancaster]

Yeah...4 yrs ago though...look more rugged and slimline now.

I think I could turn for you, Parmy. :laugh::wavey:

[Cherie]

I think I could turn for you, Parmy. :laugh::wavey:

TiBB's new power couple?

[Toy Soldier]

Hooold on a damned second...

Richard Hammond, a very manly, very heterosexual man

:suspect: This is clearly fake news.

[Cherie]

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar65979_15.gif

:joker:

[Beso]

I think I could turn for you, Parmy. :laugh::wavey:

We could adopt nicky

[kirklancaster]

We could adopt nicky

Oh oh.... I feel a divorce coming on.

[Beso]

Oh oh.... I feel a divorce coming on.

It's ok sweetcheeks, I wont contest custody.:smug:

[Barry.]

A banana gay? Strange.

[Beso]

Another cocktail...

[Glenn.]

https://i.imgur.com/lNxKEVF.gif

[hijaxers]

It's ok sweetcheeks, I wont contest custody.:smug:

So which one of ya gets the boy ? sorry Nicky you could go anywhere now :laugh:

[Barry.]

https://i.imgur.com/lNxKEVF.gif

Ah I see.

[Cherie]

Straight bananas are an EU fave

[Twosugars]

Straight bananas are an EU fave

Myth, like most anti EU propaganda :hehe:
Google it Cherie

[Beso]

Myth, like most anti EU propaganda :hehe:
Google it Cherie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth#cite_note-Consolidated_text-23

Download that.

[Marsh.]

If a man can't eat a banana without comparing it to a cock and feeling "gay" then said man needs to grow the **** up.

[JerseyWins]

Think it only counts if you look the guy on the bus directly in the eye as you do it
:joker: :joker:

You peel the skin off, and then break up pieces of it and eat.
break up pieces with what? mouth or fingers?
Using your hands, of course.
Cald proves the point
:joker:

[Ammi]

Eating a banana whole? Like not even biting it? :o

...I have a friend who does that...she just peels the skin off completely and puts the whole banana in at once and then a few seconds later it’s gone, she’s swallowed it all...it’s a fascinating thing to watch no matter how many times I’ve seen her do it..I’m pretty mesmerised by it..:laugh:...


...she does it with all of her food though, she just loves food I think...she doesn’t eat it, she devours it...fascinating...she’s really ultra slim as well, how can that be..?...

[Nicky91]

We could adopt nicky

:flutter:

[Jessica.]

I ate a banana on the train yesterday and I broke off pieces to eat instead of taking bites. I guess I am an insecure man.