View Full Version : 'Unrepresented' right-wing policies give chance for UKIP resurgence, poll shows
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 03:33 PM
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New areas of unoccupied political ground on the right could present an opportunity for a Ukip comeback, new polling has found.
Large portions of the population feel disenfranchised and unrepresented, according to a YouGov poll, which experts believe presents a key opportunity for a Ukip resurgence.
Almost two fifths of Britons feel that the justice system is not harsh enough and that none of the major parties share their view. Similarly, 16 per cent feel that immigration restrictions should be tighter and ten per cent want the government to intervene more to encourage housebuilding, while feeling that no major party is representing them.
The findings suggest that there are large sections of the electorate who feel that they lack a voice in the major political parties.
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Ukip should seize on the disenfranchised electorate
Not all of the under-represented are from the right, according to the YouGov poll.
Some 12 per cent of underrepresented voters want increased regulation of big business, while one in ten back government intervention in the housing sector. These policies are more commonly the territory of Labour and the Lib Dems.
But, with a track record of eating up the votes of traditionally Labour-backing social conservatives, experts such as Professor Travers argue that there is nothing to prevent Ukip from broadening their manifesto and campaigning on these issues.
"As for the other less traditionally right wing areas, such as regulating big business and more government intervention in house building, would Ukip feel comfortable supporting these policies? I believe they would."
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/08/06/unrepresented-right-wing-policies-give-chance-ukip-resurgence/amp/
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/07kprp1z3i/Results_180627_representedbyparty_w.pdf
Its back
Withano
07-08-2018, 03:37 PM
Lol I’m so here for alt-right people accidentally giving Labour the win by leaving the Tories.
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 03:40 PM
Lol Im so here for alt-right people accidentally giving Labour the win by leaving the Tories.
Labour have 2 hopes
No and Bob
Withano
07-08-2018, 03:43 PM
Labour have 2 hopes
No and Bob
People fleeing from tories to ukip will increase labours chances...
polls show that they would win if there was an election right now, people fleeing to ukip before the election is only going to increase those odds
JoshBB
07-08-2018, 03:46 PM
Unrepresented?? as a centre-left person, I feel like right-wing views are all that are represented at the moment. ****ing brexit means brexit etc.... genuinely makes me avoid the news because it's so depressing
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 03:46 PM
People fleeing from tories to ukip will increase labours chances...
polls show that they would win if there was an election right now, people fleeing to ukip before the election is only going to increase those odds
tbh how anyone is attracted by any English political party is a mystery as they are all awful
Parmy
07-08-2018, 03:52 PM
People fleeing from tories to ukip will increase labours chances...
polls show that they would win if there was an election right now, people fleeing to ukip before the election is only going to increase those odds
The latest polls give the Tories a very narrow lead. When YouGov asked 1,585 adults which party they would vote for in an election tomorrow, 29% said Conservative, 28% said Labour and 6% said the Liberal Democrats.
Withano
07-08-2018, 03:54 PM
The latest polls give the Tories a very narrow lead. When YouGov asked 1,585 adults which party they would vote for in an election tomorrow, 29% said Conservative, 28% said Labour and 6% said the Liberal Democrats.
Thats not true :suspect: where did you find this information
arista
07-08-2018, 03:56 PM
Yes but will they get a MP
in next year summer elections?
Tom4784
07-08-2018, 03:58 PM
Unrepresented?? as a centre-left person, I feel like right-wing views are all that are represented at the moment. ****ing brexit means brexit etc.... genuinely makes me avoid the news because it's so depressing
Pretty much, the majority of the dominant media in this country is right wing.
I think the feeling of being 'underepresented' is actually just them only wanting their views aired and no one else's. Basically they see freedom of speech for anyone other than themselves as an attack on them.
Black Dagger
07-08-2018, 04:19 PM
The conservative party are UKIP. Their views are not unrepresented. But go off sis.
ethanjames
07-08-2018, 04:22 PM
Unrepresented?? as a centre-left person, I feel like right-wing views are all that are represented at the moment. ****ing brexit means brexit etc.... genuinely makes me avoid the news because it's so depressing
this! havent looked at the news in a while bc of that its just hard to watch
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 04:24 PM
Unrepresented?? as a centre-left person, I feel like right-wing views are all that are represented at the moment. ****ing brexit means brexit etc.... genuinely makes me avoid the news because it's so depressing
You keep making sweeping statements like this but do not say where this info is gleaned from.
If all you read is the express that will colour your opinion
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 04:27 PM
this! havent looked at the news in a while bc of that its just hard to watch
lol
so Josh said its all that is on the news at this moment and you agree and say you dont watch news at the moment
you cant have it both ways
:joker:
ethanjames
07-08-2018, 04:29 PM
lol
so Josh said its all that is on the news at this moment and you agree and say you dont watch news at the moment
you cant have it both ways
:joker:
well i did sis
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 04:30 PM
well i did sis
i am sorry that does not make sense:shrug:
arista
07-08-2018, 04:30 PM
The conservative party are UKIP. Their views are not unrepresented. But go off sis.
rubbish
Parmy
07-08-2018, 05:38 PM
Thats not true :suspect: where did you find this information
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theweek.co.uk/93499/uk-politics-polls-could-labour-win-a-general-election-tomorrow%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwir29GvvdvcAhXLx4UKHfzqBY4QFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0ApZXGXTt7CE9Hg2fQJiow&cf=1
Can you post the polls from this month that show that labour would win an election tomorrow like you claimed?
Twosugars
07-08-2018, 05:55 PM
programme of public housing and getting rid of foreigners...that reminds of of something
hope a deportation would be enough, no need for camps?
Crimson Dynamo
07-08-2018, 05:59 PM
programme of public housing and getting rid of foreigners...that reminds of of something
hope a deportation would be enough, no need for camps?
"getting rid of foreigners"
sorry can you explain specifically what you mean?
Withano
07-08-2018, 06:14 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.theweek.co.uk/93499/uk-politics-polls-could-labour-win-a-general-election-tomorrow%3Famp&ved=2ahUKEwir29GvvdvcAhXLx4UKHfzqBY4QFjABegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw0ApZXGXTt7CE9Hg2fQJiow&cf=1
Can you post the polls from this month that show that labour would win an election tomorrow like you claimed?
This is from may
10 july, labour 39% lead https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/phvyn092lg/TimesResults_180711_VI_Brexit.pdf
12 july, Labour 42% lead http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SunSunday_Brexit_Deltapoll180714.pdf
16 july, labour 41% lead http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/j26n4y534f/TimesResults_180717_VI_Trackers_w.pdf
19 july, labour 39% lead https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/vxuhlu27eg/SundayTimesResults_180720_for_web.pdf
20 july, labour 40% lead https://www.icmunlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Voting-23rdJul18_pv-only-BPC.pdf
They actually tied the latest yougov poll, but tories havent won a poll in several weeks. About the time they starting ****ing up brexit publicly. Their fall actually directly correlates with ukips rise, i was just guessing before, looks like i guessed correctly.
Parmy
07-08-2018, 06:23 PM
This is from may
10 july, labour 39% lead https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/phvyn092lg/TimesResults_180711_VI_Brexit.pdf
12 july, Labour 42% lead http://www.deltapoll.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/SunSunday_Brexit_Deltapoll180714.pdf
16 july, labour 41% lead http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/j26n4y534f/TimesResults_180717_VI_Trackers_w.pdf
19 july, labour 39% lead https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/vxuhlu27eg/SundayTimesResults_180720_for_web.pdf
20 july, labour 40% lead https://www.icmunlimited.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Voting-23rdJul18_pv-only-BPC.pdf
They actually tied the latest yougov poll, but tories havent won a poll in several weeks. About the time they starting ****ing up brexit publicly. Their fall actually directly correlates with ukips rise, i was just guessing before, looks like i guessed correctly.
Those are just sunday times polls:joker:...apart from the last one that has it about even......see sig.
Withano
07-08-2018, 06:26 PM
Those are just sunday times polls:joker:...apart from the last one that has it about even......see sig.
...your poll was also from the times... yougov and the times do their polls together a lot. One was also by the sun. Where labour were massively ahead. Despite the sun practically promoting the tories haha.
Its not close at the moment, i dont know how much proof youd need.
To suggest that your one source from may is more relevant than my 5 from july is a bit daft though. See your sig.
Parmy
07-08-2018, 06:50 PM
...your poll was also from the times... yougov and the times do their polls together a lot. One was also by the sun. Where labour were massively ahead. Despite the sun practically promoting the tories haha.
Its not close at the moment, i dont know how much proof youd need.
To suggest that your one source from may is more relevant than my 5 from july is a bit daft though. See your sig.
Mines was the 4th of august...and its a poll of all polls....see sig.
Withano
07-08-2018, 06:54 PM
Mines was the 4th of august...and its a poll of all polls....see sig.
None of that is true either, your article is from may (although i cant find evidence of the poll being based on anything at all as the links to the direct source are suspiciously broken), this is serious debates, youre in the wrong place
Cherie
07-08-2018, 07:50 PM
A quick update on voting intention pols
4 Aug 2018
A quick update on recent voting intention polls. When I last updated in mid-July, there was a clear trend towards Labour across the polling companies, with YouGov, Opinium, Deltapoll all showing the Conservatives dropping backing significantly in the wake of the Johnson & Davis resignations (whether one attributes that to the Chequers agreement or the resignations it is impossible to say from the evidence given they were so close together. My guess is that it is a combination of the two).
The later polling towards the end of July suggested that movement had flattened out a bit the last four published polls are below:
YouGov/Times (20th Jul) CON 38%, LAB 39%, LDEM 9%, UKIP 6%
ICM/Guardian (22nd Jul) CON 40%, LAB 41%, LDEM 8%, UKIP 5%
YouGov/Times (23rd Jul) CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
Ipsos MORI/Standard (24th Jul) CON 38%, LAB 38%, LDEM 10%, UKIP 6%
As you can see, two had Labour a point ahead, the later two had the parties neck-and-neck again. That clear Labour lead we briefly saw appears to have quickly faded again once the media was no longer focusing on Chequers & the resignations. Thats not to say there is no lasting impact at all. Back in May and June polls were showing a consistent Tory lead that has gone; UKIP appeared dead in the water, but in these latest polls they are still up at 5% or 6%. Finally, and least noticed, polls showing the Lib Dems breaching double figures are increasingly common. There were five of them in July, compared to just one in June and just one in May.
So basically the polls are all within the margin of error and mean nothing this far from an election anyway
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