Cameramen have been axed behind the mirrors

[Rob!]

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[LukeB]

Not the drones taking over?

[Morgan.]

Yeah I think this was posted earlier! A terrible move!

[NotARylanFan]

Guess we will have lots of scenes this time that will have audio playing over unrelated video from elsewhere in the house because they missed the shot.

[supertv247]

Endemol are automating the show for smoother production
https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/esg-media-telecommunications-azure

[Rob!]

The highlight shows are going to look terrible?

[Denver]

They are not really need in todays day and age

[Rob!]

They are not really need in todays day and age

No, apart from the whole “recording everything the housemates do and say” thing that is, y’know, the whole premise of the show? :umm2:

[Epic.]

Once again another example that the "back to basics" tagline is completely untrue :skull:

[Denver]

No, apart from the whole “recording everything the housemates do and say” thing that is, y’know, the whole premise of the show? :umm2:

They can till do that without camera men

[LaLaLand]

Well that's just awful.

Assuming then they're remote controlled stand-alone cameras?

[Greg!]

Once again another example that the "back to basics" tagline is completely untrue :skull:

Don't think they've ever described this CBB as back to basics though? Plus apparently they're being replaced by an automated system or something so I don't really see the problem

[Rob!]

Mind you, at least it’s an Endomol thing instead of a channel 5 thing.

[MB.]

Bit on the Side to be hosted by Rylanbot?

[Greg!]

Bit on the Side to be hosted by Rylanbot?

The Anne Droid is coming?

[Epic.]

Don't think they've ever described this CBB as back to basics though? Plus apparently they're being replaced by an automated system or something so I don't really see the problem

But if the cameramen are being 'axed' altogether, will that not affect the next series as well?

[Greg!]

But if the cameramen are being 'axed' altogether, will that not affect the next series as well?

But what does that have to do with a back to basics theme idgi?

[Epic.]

But what does that have to do with a back to basics theme idgi?

Because an 'automated' system isn't basic

[Denver]

Because an 'automated' system isn't basic

You do realise technology moves on?

[Greg!]

Because an 'automated' system isn't basic

It's improved technology. The way they film the show has nothing really to do with the theme. BB12 wasn't crap because they updated to HD cameras; it was just crap.

[Greg!]

Do feel sorry for the camera people out of a job mind!

[Oaker]

Once again another example that the "back to basics" tagline is completely untrue :skull:

Do you want the show to go back to not being HD as well? :skull:

And the house to move back to Bow? :skull:

[Jordan.]

It's not that big a deal really, the cameras they use now are more than capable of picking up the footage they need.

[Denver]

Do you want the show to go back to not being HD as well? :skull:

And the house to move back to Bow? :skull:

And no live launch?

[reece(:]

Yet there will be drones in the sky for transitions which could be scrapped? :skull:

[Rob!]

I don’t understand how this is going to work at all. You can drastically tell the difference between the cameras being used behind the mirrors and the ones on the wall. How are they going to see everything?

[Headie]

https://uploadir.com/u/xoyhgibo

[Maru]

If it saves costs and keeps things on the air and works mostly the same, then it's probably not an issue...

[annabelindabee]

Do feel sorry for the camera people out of a job mind!


thats site did not make scene to me as it said nothing about not using camera man... But mayby i miss read it.

How can they not have cameraman, someone needs to angle the cameras zoom in to where the drama is...

I think they usually have someone writing up what is being said and what time it was said so that the footage can be easily found later when editing it or coming up with 'best bits', someone just need to type the words in and find out where that footage cane be found... To me that auto thing seems like its just an auto speech and face recognition...

I have a read and write thing to... you speak and it types up everything you say.. Im dyslexic so often need it... but it often gets things wrongs so someone will need to check that its right... and camera man need to angle the cameras correctly

[JoshBB]

I don't think this conflicts with the concept of 'back to basics', but I am slightly concerned. has this been done before?

[Wizard.]

https://uploadir.com/u/xoyhgibo

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[Headie]

:joker:

Instead we'll be getting more of these shots:
https://uploadir.com/u/cnxzfqcv

[Withano]

Not to dumb down a profession, but cant a stationary camera do the job, and then they can sort out all the zooms and **** in the editing.

[pontyboi]

They can till do that without camera men
They really cant seeing as the cameramen have their eyes on the action and can follow the housemates every reaction instantly whilst a robot is simply THERE and will essentially miss ALOT of stuff if theres say a fast paced argument or dramatic scene where all hands on deck are needed by actual camera men to capture it.

They are just trying to get that polished love island look which just comes across way to fake and not what BB is about...Ii like the raw camera work its more real.

[bbpro]

Not to dumb down a profession, but cant a stationary camera do the job, and then they can sort out all the zooms and **** in the editing.

Haha it is so much more than that. Firstly, if you zoom in later you lose a lot of quality. It will become pixilated, exactly the same as if you were to zoom in close on a photo you’ve taken on your phone.

Secondly, Not to forget that the camera operators in the house are ‘extra eyes’ for what’s happening. The gallery are focussed on what’s currently happening and what might be happening elsewhere whereas the camera operators in the house would be able to spot things like someone walking out of the room and stashing alcohol under their bed etc or two people fondling under the dining table etc.

Also, the remote cameras are only operated by one person per stream. You can only move one of those cameras at a time, so if let’s say it kicks-off at midnight. They will have a wide shot covering the whole room and then closeups of maybe each person involved. If you can operate only one camera at a time, you will lose coverage. Bearing in mind that previously you could potentially have 5 different close-ups of different housemates plus wide shots. This is not possible with the new set up.

Remote cameras aren’t really built for smooth movement additional pedestal cameras. All those shots that the show is known for, starting on one housemate then pulling the focus and tilting the shot to another housemate ie. showing two housemates bitching in the background then tilting down to the housemate they’re bitching about will be impossible on remote cameras or at least very clunky and not easy on the eye.

This is a terrible move, it won’t be obvious at first, especially as they will still be there for launch, evictions and tasks. It will be those late night drunken arguments etc where it will show.

[Withano]

Haha it is so much more than that. Firstly, if you zoom in later you lose a lot of quality. It will become pixilated, exactly the same as if you were to zoom in close on a photo you’ve taken on your phone.

Secondly, Not to forget that the camera operators in the house are ‘extra eyes’ for what’s happening. The gallery are focussed on what’s currently happening and what might be happening elsewhere whereas the camera operators in the house would be able to spot things like someone walking out of the room and stashing alcohol under their bed etc or two people fondling under the dining table etc.

Also, the remote cameras are only operated by one person per stream. You can only move one of those cameras at a time, so if let’s say it kicks-off at midnight. They will have a wide shot covering the whole room and then closeups of maybe each person involved. If you can operate only one camera at a time, you will lose coverage. Bearing in mind that previously you could potentially have 5 different close-ups of different housemates plus wide shots. This is not possible with the new set up.

Remote cameras aren’t really built for smooth movement additional pedestal cameras. All those shots that the show is known for, starting on one housemate then pulling the focus and tilting the shot to another housemate ie. showing two housemates bitching in the background then tilting down to the housemate they’re bitching about will be impossible on remote cameras or at least very clunky and not easy on the eye.

This is a terrible move, it won’t be obvious at first, especially as they will still be there for launch, evictions and tasks. It will be those late night drunken arguments etc where it will show.

Thats all useful and helpful... i bet thats what they’ll do anyway... Use a section of the entire frame with a bit of zooming. Most people watch it behind a phone or ipad anyway.

[Marsh.]

Cameramen have been axed behind the mirrors

Very disturbing.

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[Jordan.]

Not Victoria Jensen demonic spirit still at large

[Ross.]

Not Victoria Jensen demonic spirit still at large

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[James]

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Does anyone notice any difference?

[armand.kay]

have they actually removed them I haven't really been keeping an eye out for it

[armand.kay]

although I haven't noticed as many messy shots a housemate fixing their hair in the mirror

[Withano]

You cant tell the dofference, the camera work is great

[Ashley.]

Does anyone notice any difference?

No difference at all, really. I only ever noticed the mirrors back in the day when Davina would go into the camera runs.

[armand.kay]

Maybe they never even god rid of the camera men this was never actually confirmed was it?

[Oaker]

the only thing i've noticed is that there are a lot more cameras in the house now