Should rodrigo have been ejected

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Justice for emily parr!

[Lstan]

I dunno but he could have at least apologised?

[Cal.]

No but neither should Emily

[Jake.]

I dunno but he could have at least apologised?

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Of course

Racism 0


Money 1

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sorry what was Biggins ejected for?

This show is the worst type of garbage

[Lstan]

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ty! :love:

[smudgie]

Sorry what was Biggins ejected for?

This show is the worst type of garbage

Double standards I reckon.:shrug:

[Lstan]

I can't remember what biggins said to get kicked out?

[Vicky.]

I completely missed what happened as my internet was playing up :bored: Can someone explain please :/

[Jake.]

I completely missed what happened as my internet was playing up :bored: Can someone explain please :/

Jokingly saying he wasn’t interested in Dan followed with his type being a “n***** boy”, twice

[Jase.]

I completely missed what happened as my internet was playing up :bored: Can someone explain please :/

He was going on about the kinda guys he likes

"I like ***** boys!"

[thisisdanny]

Sorry what was Biggins ejected for?

This show is the worst type of garbage

Telling Katie Waissell (a jew) that she should be careful when she goes in the shower because it looks like a gas chamber, as well as other comments about bisexuals

[Marsh.]

D:

[Greg!]

No but neither should Emily

This!

The final warning was enough imo.

[Maru]

I had a hard time understanding him over stream... but it sounded like he said something about Dan? Did he give Dan that label? O_o

If so, it's ejection-worthy.

[Pete.]

Yes because Emily and Ken got ejected for it :shrug:

[Lstan]

Telling Katie Waissell (a jew) that she should be careful when she goes in the shower because it looks like a gas chamber, as well as other comments about bisexuals

TY for the Info Danny

[thisisdanny]

I had a hard time understanding him over stream... but it sounded like he said something about Dan? Did he give Dan that label? O_o

If so, it's ejection-worthy.

He said Dan wasn't his type, he likes N... instead

[Wizard.]

No neither should Jade goody

[Scream]

I think if he was using the term to cause offence then, yeah but he wasn't. Of course, just because he is using the word to explain his preference it doesn't make it okay but I think BB were right to issue a first & final warning

[BBUK-Fan]

Telling Katie Waissell (a jew) that she should be careful when she goes in the shower because it looks like a gas chamber, as well as other comments about bisexuals

Renee also said comments about bisexuals but didn’t get anything

[Rob!]

No, BB got it completely right imo and I loved that they weren’t taking any excuses either. I’m not going to hold it against him unless he does it again and then I actually think they will chuck him out.

[DanielM787]

I think he will be ejected anyways

[Black Dagger]

No neither should Jade goody

Well Jade was never ejected hun?

[armand.kay]

I was really enjoying ha it's a shame I've had to cancel

[Vicky.]

Jokingly saying he wasn’t interested in Dan followed with his type being a “n***** boy”, twice

He was going on about the kinda guys he likes

"I like ***** boys!"

Ah D:

I don't know, in that case tbh. Assumed this was one of the 'should he be ejected for calling someone a bitch' or something threads that appear when a disliked housemate says something slightly iffy.

If hes getting a final warning after 2 hours, I am fairly sure he will be ejected by the end of the week. Or be forced to walk. Mybe Sally really is psychic

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

No neither should Jade goody

Jade wasn’t ejected? :suspect:

[Gusto Brunt]

No, he meant no offence.

[saiwong]

I think if he was using the term to cause offence then, yeah but he wasn't. Of course, just because he is using the word to explain his preference it doesn't make it okay but I think BB were right to issue a first & final warning

I agree with this.

I think it is all down to the context in which it is used.


A lot of black rappers use the N-word, but they are not racist against other
black people.


The N-word is also used in the TV series 'Roots'. Should we ban this series
forever because of the use of the N-word ?

The N-word is also used in the musical 'Hairspray'. Should we ban this musical forever because of the use of the N-word ?

I think Big Brother ruled correctly and just gave a warning because it could cause offence and told Rodrigo not to do it again.

[Maru]

Jokingly saying he wasn’t interested in Dan followed with his type being a “n***** boy”, twice

Ohhhhh......

[Rob!]

The thing is he even said that little N boys were his thing so at least he wasn’t trying to be racist I guess?

[Wizard.]

Jade wasn’t ejected? :suspect:

she was... from life

[Maru]

I don't think it was racist. I think it was just really offensive... to be fair, I don't really get anymore what I'm supposed to be outraged over. If it's someone calling someone else out their name, then it would seem to be clearly crossing a line... but he was saying he preferred black folk... I think he was trying to be edge-y and BBUK was prudent to reign it in if they were concerned people in the media would get really butthurt about it...

[pontyboi]

No he shouldn't have he wasn't being aggressive or hateful about black people infact he thought he was complimenting them saying how he was attracted to black men.

He shouldn't have even been given a final warning just a reminder it may offend some snowflakes out there.

[Matthew.]

if emily parr was chucked out for saying it once, rodrigo should be chucked out for saying it twice imo.

[Denver]

Not if it doesnt offend nobody,

Only sad people would find it super offensive

[Rob!]

she was... from life

Wow

[Denver]

if emily parr was chucked out for saying it once, rodrigo should be chucked out for saying it twice imo.

Emily didnt say it it a complimentary way though

[montblanc]

i thought he was about to be ejected :skull:

[Matthew.]

Emily didnt say it it a complimentary way though

idk how it went with her as i haven’t watched her series, but i know she said it to Charley and then named a bunch of brands, in the hope they wouldn’t air it

[Denver]

idk how it went with her as i haven’t watched her series, but i know she said it to Charley and then named a bunch of brands, in the hope they wouldn’t air it
You could tell Charley was offended by what she said which played a major part

[Wizard.]

Wow

wow it was a bad joke

[Josy]

Oh wow just watched that part :/

Being drunk isnt an excuse, he said it so easily as if its a completely normal thing to him speaking that way.

[Maxxie.]

If it wasn’t day 1 he probably would have been ejeted imo

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

idk how it went with her as i haven’t watched her series, but i know she said it to Charley and then named a bunch of brands, in the hope they wouldn’t air it

ASGHFGd

[Ant.]

she was... from life

:laugh2:

[Mystic Mock]

No but neither should Emily

This.

A final warning in both scenarios was the best option.

[Vicky.]

idk how it went with her as i haven’t watched her series, but i know she said it to Charley and then named a bunch of brands, in the hope they wouldn’t air it

I don't remember it like that :suspect:

And she also wasn't meaning it to be offensive, from memory

'Push it out, my n*****' I think was what was said, in a ridiculously ill judged matey type way of talking.

Regardless, there was absolutely no need for BB to throw her out in the middle of the night(and without any knickers on...), when the comment had been through the ****ing day D:

[Glenn-C]

she was... from life

Psychic Sally to channel ha?

[Ant.]

I don't remember it like that :suspect:

And she also wasn't meaning it to be offensive, from memory

'Push it out, my n*****' I think was what was said, in a ridiculously ill judged matey type way of talking.

Regardless, there was absolutely no need for BB to throw her out in the middle of the night(and without any knickers on...), when the comment had been through the ****ing day D:

:laugh2:

I think the main reason she got kicked out is because CBB5 was just months prior and they couldn't let another controversy out. Like I have no doubt it was innocent (although offensive) but Big Brother probably thought "we won't look good if we let an incidence of racism go unpunished after last series" and so decided to kick her out

I'm sure you realise that, so idk why I explained it all BUT the idea that the producers discussed how serious this word being aired could be after recent controversies is probably why she got kicked out so late (god knows why they didn't want until the morning though)

[Ant.]

to answer the question: no

simply by the standard set by Carol 5 years ago, she also said the same word yet wasn't evicted. It'd be a tad unfair if he was ejected and she wasn't

That aside though, Big Brother was really serious with their warning and didn't take his ****, and that's more than I expected, and nah, I don't think he should've been ejected

[armand.kay]

The thing is he even said that little N boys were his thing so at least he wasn’t trying to be racist I guess?

I don't think it was racist. I think it was just really offensive... to be fair, I don't really get anymore what I'm supposed to be outraged over. If it's someone calling someone else out their name, then it would seem to be clearly crossing a line... but he was saying he preferred black folk... I think he was trying to be edge-y and BBUK was prudent to reign it in if they were concerned people in the media would get really butthurt about it...


Why do people think that just because he's attracted to black men it means it wasn't a racist thing to say? Him saying that little ****** boys were his type just tells me that this man fetishises black men, he doesn't really respect them or see them as his equals in life or the relationship. I am shocked that nobody around him said anything to him Natalie especially.


Not if it doesnt offend nobody,

Only sad people would find it super offensive
Well it offended me and I imagine most black viewers watching were offended too.

[montblanc]

Oh wow just watched that part :/

Being drunk isnt an excuse, he said it so easily as if its a completely normal thing to him speaking that way.

exactly

same thing with how emily just casually said it like um

[Maru]

Why do people think that just because he's attracted to black men it means it wasn't a racist thing to say? Him saying that little ****** boys were his type just tells me that this man fetishises black men, he doesn't really respect them or see them as his equals in life or the relationship. I am shocked that nobody around him said anything to him Natalie especially.

Yeah, I don't feel that fetishes have anything to do with racism in the categorical sense. That's too extreme a line for me to draw just slide it in underneath that term like that. It's also potentially trivializing.

I understood though why they took him to task for his language, because it is still an inappropriate term to use so freely in such a charged setting.

[GoldHeart]

No neither should Jade goody

Jade Goody was never removed she was evicted there's a difference .

But i'm glad people have brought up Emily from BB8 , she rightly so got removed for using the N word . But over the years BB has let alot of things slide while others get punished :puzzled:. Totally messed up and confusing , clearly BB and their rule book is a joke as not even they know what's a removable offence and what isn't anymore :bored:

[Eddie.]

Yes.

Emily was ejected because of the sensitivity CBB5 caused that was still around when BB8 aired...

Ken was ejected a few days in because C5 paid him to appear on the show...

Had Rodrigo said this a few days later and not on Day 1, he would have got ejected as well...

[GoldHeart]

Yes.

Emily was ejected because of the sensitivity CBB5 caused that was still around when BB8 aired...

Ken was ejected a few days in because C5 paid him to appear on the show...

Had Rodrigo said this a few days later and not on Day 1, he would have got ejected as well...

Well BB should stick to their same rules instead of making up one for 1 person and 1 for another . I can't take them serious :bored:, over the years they've done so many ludicrous things let so many people off scot free while other's pay the price .Makes no sense and makes the show a bit of a mockery :facepalm:.

I guess time will tell , seen as BB are being so lenient on him as it's day 1. but it's still unfair that he got away with it twice . I bet he'll say it again then lets see if BB removes him :suspect: .

[Beso]

Perhaps the final housemate could be 12 boys in the hood type bad asses....lets see if he repeats it then..

[jaxie]

I think he should have been ejected from the house because they should be consistent and others have been ejected for similar language. You can't allow one person to say it and stay when you've thrown out another for the same word.

[GoldHeart]

I think he should have been ejected from the house because they should be consistent and others have been ejected for similar language. You can't allow one person to say it and stay when you've thrown out another for the same word.

Exactly my point
Emily BB8 said it and got removed straight away

[armand.kay]

Yeah, I don't feel that fetishes have anything to do with racism in the categorical sense. That's too extreme a line for me to draw just slide it in underneath that term like that. It's also potentially trivializing.

I understood though why they took him to task for his language, because it is still an inappropriate term to use so freely in such a charged setting.

I don't think fetishising itself is racist because a lot of people do it without realising but to further dehumanise them by referring to them as "little ****** boys" in a condescending tone, to me you've stepped on racist territory. I also brought up fetishising just to let people know that just because someone has a sexual preference for a race doesn't exempt them from holding racist believes

[GoldHeart]

I don't think fetishising itself is racist because a lot of people do it without realising but to further dehumanise them by referring to them as "little ****** boys" in a condescending tone, to me you've stepped on racist territory.

And to use alcohol as an excuse aswell was pathetic of him :crazy:, let's put the shoe on the other foot and how would he of felt if Dan or someone used a derogatory term for gay people or Brazilians . I'm pretty sure Rodrigo wouldn't like that .

[armand.kay]

Well BB should stick to their same rules instead of making up one for 1 person and 1 for another . I can't take them serious :bored:, over the years they've done so many ludicrous things let so many people off scot free while other's pay the price .Makes no sense and makes the show a bit of a mockery :facepalm:.

I guess time will tell , seen as BB are being so lenient on him as it's day 1. but it's still unfair that he got away with it twice . I bet he'll say it again then lets see if BB removes him :suspect: .

I think he should have been ejected from the house because they should be consistent and others have been ejected for similar language. You can't allow one person to say it and stay when you've thrown out another for the same word.

You have to remember that big brother is just a group of producers who don't always make the best decisions and frequently make mistakes. If they were to be bound to consistency it would mean that if they were to handle a situation in the wrong way or act too harshly in one season they would have to stick to handling that specific situation like that every season. Even in lets say, 11 years.

Emily's ejection imo wasn't the best decision for that season but I completely understand it. The show was in the wake of a massive race row and it's image was at stake. You can tell it was a hard decision for them to come too, because of how long it took them to call her to the diary room. Really though at the time there was no choice but to eject her. that however doesn't mean that the same should be done in every instance.

[armand.kay]

And to use alcohol as an excuse aswell was pathetic of him :crazy:, let's put the shoe on the other foot and how would he of felt if Dan or someone used a derogatory term for gay people or Brazilians . I'm pretty sure Rodrigo wouldn't like that .

Yeah the excuse was pretty crappy and he kind of tried to joke it off with the whole hangover thing.

[GoldHeart]

Yeah the excuse was pretty crappy and he kind of tried to joke it off with the whole hangover thing.

He's a idiotic clown , i just can't like him :bored:

[Ammi]

...so if a specific skin colour is a preference then it’s ok to say he likes n.... boys..?...it’s good to get the rules right on this, on racism and complete disrespect with such a derogatory term....it doesn’t matter what the context in which it was said..there is no context which would make it ok or less than racist in its context...there are lots of black music artists I love, probably more black music artists than white...would it be ok then to say...I like them n.... music artists...?...not in this world, not in any world...it’s a racist remark, a disrespectful, derogatory remark and it’s that black and white for me...


...I haven’t seen the warning...I hope the warning wasn’t..’it could be perceived as....etc, etc..’...because that would be equally wrong as well, there is no other perception other than what it was...

...the boy can inherit a fortune, move in the most expensive of circles with the prettiest of people...but apparently you can’t take the ignorance out of the boy...

[GoldHeart]

You have to remember that big brother is just a group of producers who don't always make the best decisions and frequently make mistakes. If they were to be bound to consistency it would mean that if they were to handle a situation in the wrong way or act too harshly in one season they would have to stick to handling that specific situation like that every season. Even in lets say, 11 years.

Emily's ejection imo wasn't the best decision for that season but I completely understand it. The show was in the wake of a massive race row and it's image was at stake. You can tell it was a hard decision for them to come too, because of how long it took them to call her to the diary room. Really though at the time there was no choice but to eject her. that however doesn't mean that the same should be done in every instance.

It just seemed since BB moved to C5 that they became more strict , infact people were even saying it felt like there was too many rules and that BB removed people too easily.

Yeah it's obvious after the whole Shilpa controversy that they had to act quickly but it still makes the producers look ridiculous in other instances.

Plus prior to the whole Shilpa drama , in BB7 remember how there was NO FILTER what so ever and Grace & Nikki said alot of rude ignorant things which would be considered offensive today and would of gotten them removed, yet at the time BB didn't even say boo to them about it.

And in BB8 apparently Ziggy also used the N word aswell but it wasn't aired and it was in a different context ,as he was singing a rap song or something (still doesn't make it ok though), but BB only gave him a warning and he allegedly apologised to Brian and he accepted it saying he knows he's not racist or something .

[Osjama]

A little question for people in this thread

Do you think Rodrigo is a racist person?

[Headie]

The thing is he even said that little N boys were his thing so at least he wasn’t trying to be racist I guess?

That’s... not how it works

[Crimson Dynamo]

A little question for people in this thread

Do you think Rodrigo is a racist person?

Does he look down his nose at black people?

Id say from last night

yes

yes he does

[bots]

Ken Morley got thrown out and he wasnt being "nasty" when he said what he said. That is also historically much closer in time than other mentioned incidents. However, I'm pretty sure he received a warning prior to his subsequent ejection, so there was no instant dismissal there either.

[Eddie.]

A little question for people in this thread

Do you think Rodrigo is a racist person?

I think he had the same intentions as Emily and didn’t mean it that way...?

[y.winter]

Umm I chose 'no', but I do understand why people would think he should and armand's comments. I'm not a black person myself, but I try to think of a similar situation if someone would've used the word "kike" for Jewish people.
The difference is that the n word did become an acceptable slang amongst black people, though I'm not sure why - is it a way of trying to reclaim it? If so, they still accuse white people of racism if they use it in the same context (let's say Natalie could've said she likes "n**** boys" and nothing would've happened). I think if a word is unacceptable, it should be like that for everyone (you won't hear Jewish people calling each other "kike boy" or whatever, it's just bad and racist). But that's my views on the use of this word in general.

Were they right to eject Emily? Yes and no. She used it as a slang like black people do and didn't mean to harm Charley. Did she deserve a formal and final warning? in my opinion, yes. The thing is that it came straight after CBB5, so it was highly sensitive and they couldn't have acted differently.

Should they eject Rodrigo? I believe giving a final and formal warning was good enough at this stage, especially with BB not accepting Rodrigo's reasons. If it was a clear racist remark then they should've kicked him out the house in seconds.

[Ammi]

...with what he said...it’s not just that he’s objectifying black guys as sexual objects, which in itself is dehumanising...he’s also referring to them in a completely derogatory and disrespectful way with the n word...

[Daniel.]

No he got the right warning I think

I was so shocked he said it how stupid

[Nicky91]

No of course not

[DanielM787]

No, I don't think he should. not yet anyways

[Crimson Dynamo]

and if Nick has said it he would be gone already and most of this forum would be like

"good I am glad, he deserved it"

:idc:

and you all know that is true

[Osjama]

Well imagine nick saying he would rather bang n boys over dan

[chuff me dizzy]

and if Nick has said it he would be gone already and most of this forum would be like

"good I am glad, he deserved it"

:idc:

and you all know that is true

All the truth from LT

[Maru]

I don't think fetishising itself is racist because a lot of people do it without realising but to further dehumanise them by referring to them as "little ****** boys" in a condescending tone, to me you've stepped on racist territory. I also brought up fetishising just to let people know that just because someone has a sexual preference for a race doesn't exempt them from holding racist believes

Ok, that makes a little more sense. I have a hard enough time understanding his unusual accent over a crap steam (:laugh:), but if it came across as a condescending thing, then it makes much more sense why someone would feel that way...

[JoshBB]

On the basis of things that have gotten HMs kicked out for before, yes. For consistency.

If the new established rule was "N word = final warning" and they enforced it fairly to every HM, then the anger wouldn't be as much imo

[user104658]

Lol at people trying to argue that saying "I like li'l n****'s" isn't racist because he's saying he wants to **** them :facepalm:. "He said it in a NICE way!". Come on guyz.

[montblanc]

Lol at people trying to argue that saying "I like li'l n****'s" isn't racist because he's saying he wants to **** them :facepalm:. "He said it in a NICE way!". Come on guyz.

it's a bit ridiculous :laugh:

[JoshBB]

Lol at people trying to argue that saying "I like li'l n****'s" isn't racist because he's saying he wants to **** them :facepalm:. "He said it in a NICE way!". Come on guyz.

it's just plain ignorance tbh and thats the tea

[Maru]

On the basis of things that have gotten HMs kicked out for before, yes. For consistency.

If the new established rule was "N word = final warning" and they enforced it fairly to every HM, then the anger wouldn't be as much imo

I don't think it really matters at this point, BB/CBB are hardly ever consistent on anything. :laugh: The game is ever-changing.

I'm assuming the policy is in writing and when they sign up for the show, it's made clear what is intolerable and will lead to warnings/ejections. So maybe they have a policy where it doesn't go straight to ejections, except in certain cases (like violence)... if it's at their discretion, then it's more likely to be influenced by a PR thing. Especially if it's a housemate they really want to keep.

[Maru]

Lol at people trying to argue that saying "I like li'l n****'s" isn't racist because he's saying he wants to **** them :facepalm:. "He said it in a NICE way!". Come on guyz.

Racial chatter is used in a fairly destigmatized and relaxed manner where I live, especially during banter, so there are more cases where context matters... I would say minorities themselves are the worst about using these terms so freely, but then, they don't have the guilt complex that often comes with being white that makes them feels like they have to restrict their behavior/speech when it comes to racial sensitivities... So it's not unusual for a minority to be in a setting where they use racial terms freely, is where I would come from. Probably whoever he hangs around in his usual life, maybe a club scene, they talk like this on a regular basis... it wouldn't surprise me... (edit) but yeah has nothing to do with being drunk...

[Jessica.]

He didn't mean it in an offensive way and also he's from a completely different culture than all of use are used to, he shouldn't have said it but I think ejecting him would be a bit too much.

[Vanessa]

No, he didn't mean it in a negative way. But he could have said it in a different way.

[fred7853]

The N word is unacceptable in any vane unless its black on black because they have tjheir own rules.