6 Annoying Things About Americans

[Alf]

Sorry Maru

But he does have a point



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[Maru]

All true.

All except the comment about American football players wearing too much gear... that one I'm not sure because of the way the game is played... CTE is becoming very controversial since it is so detrimental to players, so may end up "nerfing" it anyway... though it is ironic that in the WWE they have the very same issue(s) with cranial injuries but don't wear as substantial protection.

[Maru]

I watched another video about things that are only American underneath that one... and really, we're the only ones who put ice in our beverages? :skull: But what about sweet iced tea...

[Mokka]

I watched another video about things that are only American underneath that one... and really, we're the only ones who put ice in our beverages? :skull: But what about sweet iced tea...

We Canadians do as well :thumbs:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I watched another video about things that are only American underneath that one... and really, we're the only ones who put ice in our beverages? :skull: But what about sweet iced tea...

what about sweet iced tea

tea is hot

or spilt

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[Twosugars]

Don't listen to LT, Maru, iced tea is nice and perfectly civilized

[Crimson Dynamo]

Don't listen to LT, Maru, iced tea is nice and perfectly civilized

no one drinks it in the uk

fact

[Maru]

what about sweet iced tea

tea is hot

or spilt

end of

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Yes... spilt over some rocks and a nice slice of lemon :love:

We Canadians do as well :thumbs:

:love: Sweet

[Maru]

Don't listen to LT, Maru, iced tea is nice and perfectly civilized

Americans.... civilized?

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[kirklancaster]

I watched another video about things that are only American underneath that one... and really, we're the only ones who put ice in our beverages? :skull: But what about sweet iced tea...

Most of the UK's pubs and clubs use hosepipes to put copious amounts of water in their beer and lager kegs and barrels - BEFORE they sell the contents - if that's any comfort, Maru. :laugh:

[y.winter]

As an unbiased non-American non-British individual, I can say that the UK is clearly far superior.
No offence Americans, and please don't revoke my visa until I get back from Vegas and New York in three weeks time :hehe:

[smudgie]

I have only met one American in my life.
She is amazing, besotted with my son, and very very rich.:joker:
Love her.❤️

[Captain.Remy]

I work with plenty of americans, I love them all. But what they say about them is true "You hear them before you see them".
Boy they are so LOUD. Why the hell for?
And the ice cubes everywhere too. Just stop it :skull:

[Marsh.]

I watched another video about things that are only American underneath that one... and really, we're the only ones who put ice in our beverages? :skull: But what about sweet iced tea...

I don't get that one. Ice in beverages is common across the world.

I mean America has a much bigger use of it but it's a warmer country so it's going to.

[Maru]

I work with plenty of americans, I love them all. But what they say about them is true "You hear them before you see them".
Boy they are so LOUD. Why the hell for?
And the ice cubes everywhere too. Just stop it :skull:

I think we're uncomfortable with silence? If we are feeling or noticing something, every random though, it has to be mentioned :laugh: Silence makes everything feel awkward otherwise... I'm not always a chatterbox so some people may notice this and think I am not as outgoing... silence is underappreciated here I think

I don't get that one. Ice in beverages is common across the world.

I mean America has a much bigger use of it but it's a warmer country so it's going to.

Yeah that's what I figured. Especially in the deep south... our weather is more tropical. I've started to make blended ice beverages during the summer with fruits and teas... it's very nice on a hot day :love:

I do love hot tea though. I've been experimenting with fruit teas... taking lemon juice, honey, mint leaves and putting in with freshly steeped green tea... pouring over ice and blending... so good :love:

Most of the UK's pubs and clubs use hosepipes to put copious amounts of water in their beer and lager kegs and barrels - BEFORE they sell the contents - if that's any comfort, Maru. :laugh:

Yeah when I found out how much water that Starbucks puts into their beverages... hard pass... watered down beer sounds yuck though :skull:... I don't drink beer with ice though... (I don't think many do?).. the exception is a smoothie style margarita...so some fruity froo froo girls drink with hard liquor.. maybe

I love beverages :love:

[user104658]

I think we're uncomfortable with silence? If we are feeling or noticing something, every random though, it has to be mentioned [emoji23] Silence makes everything feel awkward otherwise... I'm not always a chatterbox so some people may notice this and think I am not as outgoing... silence is underappreciated here I think

I think that's the case in a lot of places though... I don't really do much in the way of "small talk" and I do find that people have a tendency to just chatter about nothing to "fill the silence". I sometimes think maybe people are too scared of their own thoughts to spend much time listening to them? Maybe I'm thinking into it too much though :joker:.

As I've said to customers before, though... The especially chatty ones...

If you're talking constantly then you're not taking much time to think, and if you talk too much without thinking you'll end up saying something you'll regret.

[Kizzy]

Don't listen to LT, Maru, iced tea is nice and perfectly civilized

Yep liptons make it, it's quintessentially English... not that a Scot would appreciate that.
And if xenophobia is allowed I'm playing :)

[Livia]

My fella is American and I can confirm... they are quite annoying.

[glibberglobber]

stereotypically geographically mislocated

[montblanc]

we are GORGEOUS people

[Livia]

we are GORGEOUS people

Yeah.... but annoying :-) Texans though, we let you off because of the accent.
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[montblanc]

Yeah.... but annoying :-) Texans though, we let you off because of the accent.
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the best american accent :smug:

[Jason.]

Yeah.... but annoying :-) Texans though, we let you off because of the accent.
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I was in Texas last month and I thought the whole over-the-top state pride thing was just a stereotype but honestly most the people we met wouldn't shut up about Texas / being Texan. :laugh:

I love Texas but the over-zealous bragging wears thin after a while, it's like when the Scots go on about how they're better than England when nobody outside the UK know they exist. :smug:

[montblanc]

I was in Texas last month and I thought the whole over-the-top state pride thing was just a stereotype but honestly most the people we met wouldn't shut up about Texas / being Texan. :laugh:

I love Texas but the over-zealous bragging wears thin after a while, it's like when the Scots go on about how they're better than England when nobody outside the UK know they exist. :smug:

we literally have our own flag and Texas pledge :skull:

in school we would have to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance AND the Texas Pledge :laugh:

[Jason.]

we literally have our own flag and Texas pledge :skull:

in school we would have to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance AND the Texas Pledge :laugh:

That's because y'all are Texans before you're American.

[Alf]

The Yellow Rose of Texas is the only girl for me


Texans

Have you been to the location of the Kennedy assassination in Dallas?

What about the Stevie Ray Vaughan statue in Austin? I love Texas Blues.

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[Twosugars]

My beef with Yanks is their ott patriotism and exceptionalism. Going on and on how they're the best country in the world. They're not, not with the problems they're having.
If it was Switzerland or Sweden, fine, I'd not mind, but USA?
They used to be seen as the promised land by the rest of the world. Obviously no more, the days of welcoming immigrants are over.
Other than that they're ok.

[Alf]

My beef with Yanks is their ott patriotism and exceptionalism. Going on and on how they're the best country in the world. They're not, not with the problems they're having.
If it was Switzerland or Sweden, fine, I'd not mind, but USA?
They used to be seen as the promised land by the rest of the world. Obviously no more, the days of welcoming immigrants are over.
Other than that they're ok.Immigrants still welcome in the USA, just not illegal ones.

[Twosugars]

Immigrants still welcome in the USA, just not illegal ones.

Not as they used to be, not since 1920s or thereabouts.

[kirklancaster]

My beef with Yanks is their ott patriotism and exceptionalism. Going on and on how they're the best country in the world. They're not, not with the problems they're having.
If it was Switzerland or Sweden, fine, I'd not mind, but USA?
They used to be seen as the promised land by the rest of the world. Obviously no more, the days of welcoming immigrants are over.
Other than that they're ok.

So because they are becoming more rigorous in vetting just who they are letting into their country in these violent, terrorist-riddled times, they are no longer the 'Promised Land'?

And what exactly is wrong with Patriotism?
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[Alf]

Nothing wrong with patriotism.

Your country is a part of you, a place to call home. We don't have much in life, don't never let the Marxists take that away from you, Or your place to call home will be the Gulags.

[Twosugars]

So because they are becoming more rigorous in vetting just who they are letting into their country in these violent, terrorist-riddled times, they are no longer the 'Promised Land'?

And what exactly is wrong with Patriotism?
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Read up on American exceptionalism.

[glibberglobber]

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[kirklancaster]

Read up on American exceptionalism.

I am Grammar School educated and self-educated after that and am familiar with the concept of 'American Exceptionalism' but I now have better things to do than continuing to read up on anything else to do with lop-sided propaganda stemming from Marxism.

[Twosugars]

I am Grammar School educated and self-educated after that and am familiar with the concept of 'American Exceptionalism' but I now have better things to do than continuing to read up on anything else to do with lop-sided propaganda stemming from Marxism.

That's great as I don't see much point in debating you either :laugh:

[Twosugars]

https://media2.fdncms.com/sfweekly/imager/america/u/big/2648249/patriotic_dude.jpg?cb=1454778304

If you put it like that it seems more acceptable :flutter:

[kirklancaster]

I was in Texas last month and I thought the whole over-the-top state pride thing was just a stereotype but honestly most the people we met wouldn't shut up about Texas / being Texan. :laugh:

I love Texas but the over-zealous bragging wears thin after a while, it's like when the Scots go on about how they're better than England when nobody outside the UK know they exist. :smug:

Back in the1980's my Uncle Ray was a Cab driver in London and he once picked up an American tourist. The guy was a stereotypical Texan - Stetson, huge cigar - the Full Monty.

According to Uncle Ray, the Texan never stopped talking or bragging.

As they drove past The NatWest Tower the Yank asked Uncle Ray what it was. Uncle Ray replied that it was the Natwest Tower - one of London's tallest skyscrapers.

The Yank roared with laughter and said: "Call THAT a skyscraper? Boy in Texas we got the J.P. Morgan Tower that just goddamn dwarfs that 'ole building of yours"

Uncle Ray bristled.

Then as they passed Battersea Power Station, the Yank asked what it was and Uncle Ray told him.

Again, The Yank roared with laughter and said: "Call THAT a Power Station? Hell boy back in Texas we got dozens of power stations with toilet blocks bigger than that"

Uncle Ray bristled even more.

Then the Yank pointed to the Thames and asked what it was, but Uncle Ray was ready for him and replied quick as a flash:

"Oh **** me - my radiator's burst".

I'm LYING my old black ass off. :laugh:

[Twosugars]

Nothing wrong with patriotism.

Your country is a part of you, a place to call home. We don't have much in life, don't never let the Marxists take that away from you, Or your place to call home will be the Gulags.

Did I say there was? :shrug: I'm patriotic too, but in a quiet way.
I said ott patriotism, things like flags in every front yard (or whatever it's called there), singing anthems at too many occassions,things like that. Imo, there's no need, you shouldn't need reminding like that.
And leave Marxism out of it, I actually witnessed communism as a child and its aftermath as a teenager, don't need lecturing on that. There's a middle way, you know, between constant flag-waving and communist utopia.

[kirklancaster]

Did I say there was? :shrug: I'm patriotic too, but in a quiet way.
I said ott patriotism, things like flags in every front yard (or whatever it's called there), singing anthems at too many occassions,things like that. Imo, there's no need, you shouldn't need reminding like that.
And leave Marxism out of it, I actually witnessed communism as a child and its aftermath as a teenager, don't need lecturing on that. There's a middle way, you know, between constant flag-waving and communist utopia.

But Ts2 - the Americans have no history and make up for it with pageantry and razzamatazz. Hell, even Micky Mouse is celebrated.

I just believe 1,000% that Americans are our allies and friends and that we would be ****ed without them, yet they are unjustly despised by certain factions in this country, who seem to have no problem with some truly hateful countries who despise us.

[Alf]

Did I say there was? :shrug: I'm patriotic too, but in a quiet way.
I said ott patriotism, things like flags in every front yard (or whatever it's called there), singing anthems at too many occassions,things like that. Imo, there's no need, you shouldn't need reminding like that.
And leave Marxism out of it, I actually witnessed communism as a child and its aftermath as a teenager, don't need lecturing on that. There's a middle way, you know, between constant flag-waving and communist utopia.The middle way is my way. But no harm comes from constant flag waving, so it doesn't bother me. Communism on the other hand.

[Twosugars]

But Ts2 - the Americans have no history and make up for it with pageantry and razzamatazz. Hell, even Micky Mouse is celebrated.

I just believe 1,000% that Americans are our allies and friends and that we would be ****ed without them, yet they are unjustly despised by certain factions in this country, who seem to have no problem with some truly hateful countries who despise us.

Kirk, I'm not anti-American. It's just have higher expectations of my country, of Europe and its allies.
Tbh I thought this thread was more jokey than serious, and I find American flag-waving annoying but in a friendly way.
As someone who'd seen Soviet Union up close and personal, I appreciate America. But want them and us to strive to be better rather than be complacent in their achievements iykwim.
Hell I even agree with Trump when he calls for Europe to step up Nato spending even tho I can't stand the man himself.

[Maru]

Kirk, I'm not anti-American. It's just have higher expectations of my country, of Europe and its allies.
Tbh I thought this thread was more jokey than serious, and I find American flag-waving annoying but in a friendly way.
As someone who'd seen Soviet Union up close and personal, I appreciate America. But want them and us to strive to be better rather than be complacent in their achievements iykwim.
Hell I even agree with Trump when he calls for Europe to step up Nato spending even tho I can't stand the man himself.

But what is the image we are going for? What we are aspiring to?... With exceptionalism, we compare all our neighbors to our own "standard", which I can't stand. I really dislike when my own countrymen do it and is a large reason for voting for Obama (which I regret now)... I've never been a fan of an ethnocentric mindset. But that's the "popular" way of thinking in the West... and that was the footwork of a lot of our current issue(s) imo...

Tbf, I don't care what others think of us and what they "appreciate". It's not important to be appreciated. I think humility is what leads to the perception that something is "harmonious"... Aah, but there is humility and then faux humility... like my opinion, that's very common in Europe, this concept of "faux" humility... look how understated we are... we don't need those big cars that the folk in the US drive and all that space... puh...

Anyway, imo, exceptionalism is baked into the Western model. Probably some of it should change... but we can't lose sight of ourselves in the process of making that change. In any case, humans are inherently tribal, and ironically it's that tribal nature that makes all these "boxes" easier to fit into, at least as best as we possibly can...

[Maru]

Btw I am happy to report I am enjoying my tea extra hot atm....

[user104658]

But Ts2 - the Americans have no history and make up for it with pageantry and razzamatazz. Hell, even Micky Mouse is celebrated.


To be fair, I would say that America actually has a very rich and varied history. Especially taking into consideration how (relatively) short that history is.

[Alf]

Btw I am happy to report I am enjoying my tea extra hot atm....You now need to move onto the next step, dunking biscuits (that's cookies in your language) in your tea.

[Ammi]

But what is the image we are going for? What we are aspiring to?... With exceptionalism, we compare all our neighbors to our own "standard", which I can't stand. I really dislike when my own countrymen do it and is a large reason for voting for Obama (which I regret now)... I've never been a fan of an ethnocentric mindset. But that's the "popular" way of thinking in the West... and that was the footwork of a lot of our current issue(s) imo...

Tbf, I don't care what others think of us and what they "appreciate". It's not important to be appreciated. I think humility is what leads to the perception that something is "harmonious"... Aah, but there is humility and then faux humility... like my opinion, that's very common in Europe, this concept of "faux" humility... look how understated we are... we don't need those big cars that the folk in the US drive and all that space... puh...

Anyway, imo, exceptionalism is baked into the Western model. Probably some of it should change... but we can't lose sight of ourselves in the process of making that change. In any case, humans are inherently tribal, and ironically it's that tribal nature that makes all these "boxes" easier to fit into, at least as best as we possibly can...

..the thing is though, Maru....it is important what other countries think if us as a country...I mean that’s our whole standing in the world as a country..I completely see why it’s not important to you as an individual because you judge on individually also, which most or many of us do..so we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the USA as we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the UK either or any other country...but it is also of great importance to our sanding in the world view...so I completely understand the thoughts of TwoSugars...although yeah, probably a little deep and political for the thread vibe..

..I was listening to a radio debate programme just a few days ago..and there was an American guest on...I don’t recall his name but it was all about Donald Trump and Michael Cohen...the guest was quite defensive about any suggestion or questioning regarding a USA ‘political mess’ atm...?...quite hostile actually..:laugh:..but actually understandable so in a way because he shut down that questioning straight away by referring to how the UK is being seen by other countries atm in regards to politics and political leaders..because Jeremy Corbyn is allowing anti semitism in his party and also defending some quite dubious ‘alliances’ as he’s being portrayed atm and has always been...some probably ‘media assassination’, maybe...but it’s still how the UK are being seen by other countries..more or less look at your own backyard Mister UK was the gist of it...these things are important because they’re a whole standing of a country in the world...as individuals these things don’t seem important but as a country, they really are...they are the primary importance...

[Ammi]

To be fair, I would say that America actually has a very rich and varied history. Especially taking into consideration how (relatively) short that history is.

...yeah totally..it may be a fairly new country in comparison to some...but fairly action packed in its history also...I guess it could be compared to a Hollywood movie in that so much has been fitted in to a shorter time span to keep our attention going throughout the movie...a little bit of everything thrown in there with the condensed but full history and never a dull moment etc...

[Ammi]

...anyways...generally, I’ve never known an American who I have found annoying in any way....

[Kizzy]

..the thing is though, Maru....it is important what other countries think if us as a country...I mean that’s our whole standing in the world as a country..I completely see why it’s not important to you as an individual because you judge on individually also, which most or many of us do..so we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the USA as we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the UK either or any other country...but it is also of great importance to our sanding in the world view...so I completely understand the thoughts of TwoSugars...although yeah, probably a little deep and political for the thread vibe..

..I was listening to a radio debate programme just a few days ago..and there was an American guest on...I don’t recall his name but it was all about Donald Trump and Michael Cohen...the guest was quite defensive about any suggestion or questioning regarding a USA ‘political mess’ atm...?...quite hostile actually..:laugh:..but actually understandable so in a way because he shut down that questioning straight away by referring to how the UK is being seen by other countries atm in regards to politics and political leaders..because Jeremy Corbyn is allowing anti semitism in his party and also defending some quite dubious ‘alliances’ as he’s being portrayed atm and has always been...some probably ‘media assassination’, maybe...but it’s still how the UK are being seen by other countries..more or less look at your own backyard Mister UK was the gist of it...these things are important because they’re a whole standing of a country in the world...as individuals these things don’t seem important but as a country, they really are...they are the primary importance...

Let's consider brexit, who are we cosying up to in relation to trade? Our 'alliances' will be with countries and individuals who are far worse than 'dubious' they will be human rights ignoring tyrants....

Jeremy Corbyn is being seen that way because the media is instructed to field the controversy within this and the previous govt.
He is a convenient scapegoat, what really is of primary importance is that the UK public let it be known...across continents, that this is the case.

[Maru]

..the thing is though, Maru....it is important what other countries think if us as a country...I mean that’s our whole standing in the world as a country..I completely see why it’s not important to you as an individual because you judge on individually also, which most or many of us do..so we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the USA as we can’t and shouldn’t generalise the UK either or any other country...but it is also of great importance to our sanding in the world view...so I completely understand the thoughts of TwoSugars...although yeah, probably a little deep and political for the thread vibe..

..I was listening to a radio debate programme just a few days ago..and there was an American guest on...I don’t recall his name but it was all about Donald Trump and Michael Cohen...the guest was quite defensive about any suggestion or questioning regarding a USA ‘political mess’ atm...?...quite hostile actually..:laugh:..but actually understandable so in a way because he shut down that questioning straight away by referring to how the UK is being seen by other countries atm in regards to politics and political leaders..because Jeremy Corbyn is allowing anti semitism in his party and also defending some quite dubious ‘alliances’ as he’s being portrayed atm and has always been...some probably ‘media assassination’, maybe...but it’s still how the UK are being seen by other countries..more or less look at your own backyard Mister UK was the gist of it...these things are important because they’re a whole standing of a country in the world...as individuals these things don’t seem important but as a country, they really are...they are the primary importance...

You said it matters our standing in the world, but didn't support it with an argument... why does it matter and what is it's value?

Note that I haven't said it doesn't. However, putting that at the forefront of our culture's philosophy has created major side-effects... and is different than what is being discussed in media and talk radio which is usually messaging and political nonsense...

I guess for me the difference is, I don't come to SD to American-splain to others. Much of my conversation(s) here are of recreational value (believe it or not). We don't really learn anything new from folk who are too similar to us. Our cultures share a similar set of principles in the over-arching philosophy that is Western culture. However, if we both have the same pressures and issue(s) in our culture and are criticizing one another, I don't feel like either of us is objective enough to really put our problems in full view... we share the same interests and, imo, the same narcissistic tendency to protect national image in light of what is happening across the world... basically, of all the cultures in the world, the Americans and British are very politically-oriented (by nature of our shared governing philosophy)... this is not always a good thing and it has had side-effects... and I'm one of those kind of people that love feedback, so it's not a matter of not wanting feedback... but rather, when does self-obsession with national image/identity go too far for us? (Americans)

Edit: BTW, sorry in advance if some of this is unclear... writing on a break -_-

[Ammi]

You said it matters our standing in the world, but didn't support it with an argument... why does it matter and what is it's value?

Note that I haven't said it doesn't. However, putting that at the forefront of our culture's philosophy has created major side-effects... and is different than what is being discussed in media and talk radio which is usually messaging and political nonsense...

I guess for me the difference is, I don't come to SD to American-splain to others. Much of my conversation(s) here are of recreational value (believe it or not). We don't really learn anything new from folk who are too similar to us. Our cultures share a similar set of principles in the over-arching philosophy that is Western culture. However, if we both have the same pressures and issue(s) in our culture and are criticizing one another, I don't feel like either of us is objective enough to really put our problems in full view... we share the same interests and, imo, the same narcissistic tendency to protect national image in light of what is happening across the world... basically, of all the cultures in the world, the Americans and British are very politically-oriented (by nature of our shared governing philosophy)... this is not always a good thing and it has had side-effects... and I'm one of those kind of people that love feedback, so it's not a matter of not wanting feedback... but rather, when does self-obsession with national image/identity go too far for us? (Americans)

Edit: BTW, sorry in advance if some of this is unclear... writing on a break -_-

..but I don’t have an argument though, I wasn’t arguing or even debating ...when I read some of the thread I picked up something another poster said and your response to them..or a specific part of your response, I should say..?..in that you had no care for what others thought..?...and that’s what many individuals think but as a country...you do, I do etc...but as a country it is important what other countries think of us because that’s a countries whole standing...how they’re perceived internationally...because we all have allies and trade deals and agreements etc...those things might not be affected if others feel our countries may be going through politically messy times..but these things equally can effect...exactly as with what the American guy said in the radio interview about Jeremy Corbyn being a political leader of a main party...that we in the UK should be looking at ourselves in terms of any criticisms laid at US politics...it takes away all credibility ...so it really does matter what other countries think of us...those are thoughts I was having ...no argument at all, Maru...

[Maru]

..but I don’t have an argument though, I wasn’t arguing or even debating ...when I read some of the thread I picked up something another poster said and your response to them..or a specific part of your response, I should say..?..in that you had no care for what others thought..?...and that’s what many individuals think but as a country...you do, I do etc...but as a country it is important what other countries think of us because that’s a countries whole standing...how they’re perceived internationally...because we all have allies and trade deals and agreements etc...those things might not be affected if others feel our countries may be going through politically messy times..but these things equally can effect...exactly as with what the American guy said in the radio interview about Jeremy Corbyn being a political leader of a main party...that we in the UK should be looking at ourselves in terms of any criticisms laid at US politics...it takes away all credibility ...so it really does matter what other countries think of us...those are thoughts I was having ...no argument at all, Maru...

No argument here, Ammi.. just civil discussion.. :love:

I'd say the only things our "standing" effects is those things like trade deals as you say, economics, military/international policy, mitigating any externalities that may impact others outside our own soil (including ecologically)... things of self-interest really, because not every country even cares about its own externalities... a vast majority of that is political though. Both our cultures have a penchant for politics in our make-up, but beyond that, the details are usually lost on most folk...

2S as I understood it was talking about culture & national identity in a round-about introspective manner... and I said before, I think that America's influence on folk in the UK in that aspect is very limited. Just like in American cultural we're virtually isolated by what happens politically in Europe short of the things like the price of gas at the pump... Individuals get bits and pieces by reading articles and becoming more aware of the world, but I think it takes more than that to leave a lasting imprint in culture very limited without there being issues created by a foreign country here on our own soil (such as Mexico's drug war, etc)...

But even then, I don't even know how they view themselves much less how they self-govern without searching and searching on my own and reading their media in that language. I'm limited geographically and to a larger extent than what most people tend to accept, I'm also limited ideologically. Everything I read is going to be compared to my own cultural POV... I would need a lot more than just some articles and a panel of folk bickering on CNN to reshape my world in order to see things any differently...

The difference from that which you and I were talking about and where I quoted 2S, we were focused on the importance of standing when shaping culture, not policy... that's why I said appreciation is not helpful... if it's about encouraging our culture to self-refine their culture and to "be better", then our conversations on the internet or having a radio host from the UK come over is going to have a very limited effect on how Americans see themselves and their own country... outside of their already well-formed POV... despite having a shared culture in Western philosophy to boot that preaches all in this pack must "be better"... "be better", however, is still usually within the purview of local culture.

Anyway, I tend to separate the two because what happens in trade deals and militarily has marginal impact on cultural philosophy overall. as I tend to think politics is downstream from culture (still musing on that one)... most people here are barely aware of how any of that actually works and like the OP video says, we are vaguely aware of where a lot of these places are even on a map... and tbf, our understanding is even worse than that, because we don't really even learn in school the sensitive dealings between individual countries... it's usually broken down only to a continental (yes, our understanding is that low resolution) and who was/wasn't throwing shade at who during da warz...

[JerseyWins]

we are GORGEOUS people
Tea!

we literally have our own flag and Texas pledge :skull:

in school we would have to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance AND the Texas Pledge :laugh:
:joker: Never knew that

[JerseyWins]

Ok watching the video now and this guy is an IDIOT first of all! :hmph:

American sports >>>>>>>>

The rest of the world is dumb with spelling. Why add extra u's to words and pronounce words that aren't the way they're spelled? :fan:

ARE WE AMERICANS REALLY THAT LOUD? :oh:

Americans have the best food in the world. The British love some of the grossest foods I've ever seen and heard of!

[JerseyWins]

I mean Americans serve heart attacks on a plate tbf... but that's how you KNOW it tastes good. :elephant:

Had the new Jalapeno King from Burger King today and it was absolutely AMAZING

[LaLaLand]

My Taid (Grandad) always said "they'll bloody applaud anything".

Like watching Ellen and other American chat shows is an absolute nightmare!

Ellen: How are you doing?
Guest: I'm Okay
Audience:

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[JerseyWins]

Americans do like to applaud too much for some reason, that's definitely true :joker:

[Ashley.]

The rest of the world is dumb with spelling. Why add extra u's to words and pronounce words that aren't the way they're spelled? :fan:

It's France's fault.

[Maru]

Americans do like to applaud too much for some reason, that's definitely true :joker:

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[Ammi]

It's France's fault.

...the French can add and rearrange and use the alphabet any which way they want to, Ashley...when their language is so much the passion and flamboyance and body/hand movement expression that it is...for me, they fairly much rule every alphabet in the world...it’s an international law..:lovedup:...

[Alf]

Ok watching the video now and this guy is an IDIOT first of all! :hmph:

American sports >>>>>>>>

The rest of the world is dumb with spelling. Why add extra u's to words and pronounce words that aren't the way they're spelled? :fan:

ARE WE AMERICANS REALLY THAT LOUD? :oh:

Americans have the best food in the world. The British love some of the grossest foods I've ever seen and heard of!Is it lying day in America today?

You've told a few whoppers there.

[Captain.Remy]

It's France's fault.

Gurl BYE, France is amazing! We are never to blame apart from strikes and eating snails.

[Captain.Remy]

ARE WE AMERICANS REALLY THAT LOUD? :oh:

Americans have the best food in the world. The British love some of the grossest foods I've ever seen and heard of!

yes you are loud as hell! Why so loud for? :joker:

And no, you definitely DO NOT have the best food. Not even close to it.
The British have it worse I agree.
And obviously France and Italy have the best food. Everyone knows that.

[Alf]

Gurl BYE, France is amazing! We are never to blame apart from strikes and eating snails.Being French and into Rugby, do you have any thoughts on the Catalans Dragons making history last weekend by becoming the first non English team to win the Rugby League challenge cup?

Did you know about that? was it big news in France?

[Captain.Remy]

Being French and into Rugby, do you have any thoughts on the Catalans Dragons making history last weekend by becoming the first non English team to win the Rugby League challenge cup?

Did you know about that? was it big news in France?

It was on the news even though Rugby XIII is less popular than the other one.

I do believe that if the team has been invited to play for 12 years, they should be able to win. I can understand some people are upset, but then again it is the decision of the Rugby League Federation to allow them to play and potentially win the cup.
So to me it is fair, they won fairly, and congratulations to the boys! Well played!

[Alf]

It was on the news even though Rugby XIII is less popular than the other one.

I do believe that if the team has been invited to play for 12 years, they should be able to win. I can understand some people are upset, but then again it is the decision of the Rugby League Federation to allow them to play and potentially win the cup.
So to me it is fair, they won fairly, and congratulations to the boys! Well played!Hopfully this victory can make rugby League more popular in France. Les Catalans are already an established Super League club and Toulouse are still in with a chance of making Super League for next year (although it will be tough and maybe a year too soon).

England needs France to have a good international team to give us a competitive match on this side of the World. Our only competitive matches at the moment are Australia and New Zealand. It's the lack of International competition that is holding the sport back. It's the greatest sport on Earth, and people need to discover this, at the moment they're too brainwashed by football, with all the exposure they get of it.

[kirklancaster]

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:laugh2: TOUCHE. Brilliant.