Enough Victim Shaming!

[kingston]

Mods need to do something about the disgusting victim shaming comments on this forum! Setting personal boundaries is NOT a double standard... Roxanne hasn’t lied about what happened... Her reaction may be considered over the top but she is entitled to her reaction just as much as forum members are...

[Swan]

lol

[Pink Panther]

Ryan's the victim, and you're shaming him. Hush.

[kingston]

Ryan's the victim, and you're shaming him. Hush.

I havent said anything about Ryan and no he is not a victim...

[Mokka]

Neither is Roxanne.... and calling her one is an insult to anyone who has been a victim of directed violence or abuse

[kingston]

Neither is Roxanne.... and calling her one is an insult to anyone who has been a victim of directed violence or abuse

She is a victim of domestic violence... The incident with Ryan has ignited previous trauma... You are just re-victimizing her...

[Pro Sniper]

Calling mods is a bitch thing to do. It's almost as bad as pretending to be hurt from non/minimal-contact play fighting..

[Mokka]

She is a victim of domestic violence... The incident with Ryan has ignited previous trauma... You are just re-victimizing her...

I'm doing nothing to her. She can't and won't ever read my comment.
She is an actress though... and a soap one at that... so bad at it. Anyone can see through her cries of wolf

[kingston]

Calling mods is a bitch thing to do. It's almost as bad as pretending to be hurt from non/minimal-contact play fighting..

It’s done all the time on this forum...

[kingston]

Anyone can see through her cries of wolf

Clearly not when there are people defending her...

[Mokka]

Clearly not when there are people defending her...

Not many

[kingston]

Not many

Just because you’re in the majority doesn’t mean you’re right...

[Mokka]

Just because you’re in the majority doesn’t mean you’re right...

You aren't making any points to prove you are right either

[Pro Sniper]

Just because you’re in the majority doesn’t mean you’re right...

Of course not. But let's say this case went to court, how many jurors would find the shadow-boxer guilty?

[GoldHeart]

Neither is Roxanne.... and calling her one is an insult to anyone who has been a victim of directed violence or abuse

:clap1:

I actually thought the incident would of been extreme from all the drama and uproar, but Ryan barely touched her and it's obvious he was joking around.
If he was aggressive and punched her hard then fair enough but it's the opposite.

And he should NOT of been given a warning ! that's just BS from BB ! pandering to Roxanne's lies! :mad:

[kingston]

Of course not. But let's say this case went to court, how many jurors would find the shadow-boxer guilty?

You’re basically asking a jury to say a woman was “asking for it” just because she flirted with someone or was dress provocatively...

[Mokka]

You’re basically asking a jury to say a woman was “asking for it” just because she flirted with someone or was dress provocatively...

Those are two entirely different scenarios.... and shame on you for even trying to draw a parallel between them. A light joking jam on the arm in a non violent situation has nothing to do with rape or a woman saying no.

[Pro Sniper]

You’re basically asking a jury to say a woman was “asking for it” just because she flirted with someone or was dress provocatively...

wtf you going on about :conf: I'm asking if after examining the evidence of this case> Thomas shadow-boxing around Pallett, would he be found guilty of any "threatening" behaviour?

[kingston]

wtf you going on about :conf: I'm asking if after examining the evidence of this case> Thomas shadow-boxing around Pallett, would he be found guilty of any "threatening" behaviour?

A reasonable person could interpret his behaviour as something that could be considered threatening... Also there is no evidence that shows all he was doing was shadow boxing...

[Mokka]

A reasonable person could interpret his behaviour as something that could be considered threatening... Also there is no evidence that shows all he was doing was shadow boxing...

Witnesses :shrug:

[kingston]

Witnesses :shrug:

You’re a witness? If not you’re making up statements you know nothing about...

[Pro Sniper]

A reasonable person could interpret his behaviour as something that could be considered threatening... Also there is no evidence that shows all he was doing was shadow boxing...

:joker::joker::joker:

I won't bite any longer ;)

[Mokka]

You’re a witness? If not you’re making up statements you know nothing about...

I'm talking about all the housemates who were there. In the court scenario put forth... witness would be called.... and unedited footage reviewed

Pretty sure they all would testify to the shadow boxing

[kingston]

Pretty sure they all would testify to the shadow boxing

Again you’re making stuff up to fit your narrative... You can’t speak for how others viewed the situation....

[Mokka]

Again you’re making stuff up to fit your narrative... You can’t speak for how others viewed the situation....

As are you

[kingston]

As are you

Please don’t put words in my mouth... I haven’t said anything remotely close to what you’re implying...

[Mokka]

Please don’t put words in my mouth... I haven’t said anything remotely close to what you’re implying...

You implied the situation was akin to a woman being raped

[kingston]

You implied the situation was akin to a woman being raped

I used that as a example to put things in to context so that others could understand my argument... It had nothing to do with writing my own narrative of what happened...

[Mokka]

I used that as a example to put things in to context so that others could understand my argument... It had nothing to do with writing my own narrative of what happened...

Except that it is exactly either you putting things out of context... or you drawing your own narrative of what occurred... or both.

The thing is, your arguments for why I'm wrong are also the same arguments for why you are.

And ultimately, there is still no victim here

[kingston]

Except that it is exactly either you putting things out of context... or you drawing your own narrative of what occurred... or both.

The thing is, your arguments for why I'm wrong are also the same arguments for why you are.

And ultimately, there is still no victim here

It's not out of context at all... Both are unwelcomed behaviors that people are implying are ok just it's welcomed by someone else... I'm also not implying anything by using the example I've been using or writing my own version of events...

[Mokka]

It's not out of context at all... Both are unwelcomed behaviors that people are implying are ok just it's welcomed by someone else... I'm also not implying anything by using the example I've been using or writing my own version of events...

But you are if you think that those two examples of behaviour are the same. That is your version of what happened in a nut shell.... you just stated that implicitly. The directed behavior of a man putting himself forcefully on a woman who is saying no... is far different than a man being in the same space as a woman and when he realised she was uncomfortable by his physical activity... stopping.

[kingston]

But you are if you think that those two examples of behaviour are the same. That is your version of what happened in a nut shell.... you just stated that implicitly. The directed behavior of a man putting himself forcefully on a woman who is saying no... is far different than a man being in the same space as a woman and when he realised she was uncomfortable by his physical activity... stopping.

I have never said that the two are the same or should be treated the same... Just that the example is comparable on an equal level... I've also never used examples of men vs woman... Woman are just as capable or committing violating behaviours...

[Mokka]

I have never said that the two are the same or should be treated the same... Just that the example is comparable on an equal level... I've also never used examples of men vs woman... Woman are just as capable or committing violating behaviours...

I think someone needs to look at the definitions of "same" and "equal" :think:

You keep proving what I am saying

[kingston]

You keep proving what I am saying

I'm not actually... The only thing happening here is that you're putting words in my mouth...

[Mokka]

I'm not actually... The only thing happening here is that you're putting words in my mouth...

I'm reading the words you are typing... and taking them as they are defined. If I'm misunderstanding then it might be your choice of words, phrases, or analogies.

[kingston]

I'm reading the words you are typing... and taking them as they are defined. If I'm misunderstanding then it might be your choice of words, phrases, or analogies.

No once again you're writing your own narrative... I haven't said anything you're accusing me of saying...

[Mokka]

No once again you're writing your own narrative... I haven't said anything you're accusing me of saying...

Sure

[kingston]

Sure

Glad you agree...

[Mokka]

Glad you agree...

Patronizing doesn't become you

[kingston]

Patronizing doesn't become you

Not patronizing anyone... If anyone has been patronizing in this argument it's been you...

[Mokka]

Not patronizing anyone... If anyone has been patronizing in this argument it's been you...

Sure

[kingston]

Sure

Again glad you agree...

[Shaun]

Biography
I'm a bit of a twat

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[Mokka]

Oh good... the UK is waking up lol.

[kirklancaster]

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Biography
I'm a bit of a twat



:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kirklancaster]

Oh good... the UK is waking up lol.

:laugh: Been up since 4.35 Mokk.

Just enjoying you winning this (none) argument hands down.

Mokka - 1

Kingston - 0

:hehe:

[kingston]

:laugh: Been up since 4.35 Mokk.

Just enjoying you winning this (none) argument hands down.

Mokka - 1

Kingston - 0

:hehe:

Your opinion doesn't phase me...

[Mokka]

:laugh: Been up since 4.35 Mokk.

Just enjoying you winning this (none) argument hands down.

Mokka - 1

Kingston - 0

:hehe:

The judge, jury, and executioner has spoken!

[Mokka]

Your opinion doesn't phase me...

Kirk's opinion us all that matters to me :flutter:

[kirklancaster]

Your opinion doesn't phase me...

It's not intended to, but it is my opinion and one based on on the facts that your premise is irrational and your argument is non-persuasive.

[kirklancaster]

Kirk's opinion us all that matters to me :flutter:

:laugh:

(two Canadians fighting it out though, Mokk? :laugh:)

[Mokka]

:laugh:

(two Canadians fighting it out though, Mokk? :laugh:)

Classic Saskatchewan vs Alberta smackdown.

Like North vs South... in almost any former or current North vs South clashing

Ours is a rivalry that will never die

[kirklancaster]

Classic Saskatchewan vs Alberta smackdown.

Like North vs South... in almost any former or current North vs South clashing

Ours is a rivalry that will never die

Just like OUR long-distance love :laugh: :hug:

[vixenk99]

Classic Saskatchewan vs Alberta smackdown.

Like North vs South... in almost any former or current North vs South clashing

Ours is a rivalry that will never die

BC chiming in to say - Go Saskatchewan!! :cheer:

[Mokka]

BC chiming in to say - Go Saskatchewan!! :cheer:

Ha... beautiful!!

I lived there for 9 years! Fingers crossed I get to go back someday

[Elliot]

Yeah I’m sick of people victim shaming Ryan. Absolutely disgusting. Should sue Roxanne for the damages

[Josy]

Have you even watched the clips?

Roxanne is the only one making a mockery of true domestic violence victims with this whole thing.

Ryan is the victim here.

[GoldHeart]

Have you even watched the clips?

Roxanne is the only one making a mockery of true domestic violence victims with this whole thing.

Ryan is the victim here.

:clap1:

Ryan is the only person i feel sorry for

[Ammi]

Mods need to do something about the disgusting victim shaming comments on this forum! Setting personal boundaries is NOT a double standard... Roxanne hasn’t lied about what happened... Her reaction may be considered over the top but she is entitled to her reaction just as much as forum members are...

...I’ll go back to the OP with this...Roxanne seems so full of insecurities and obviously she’s attention seeking..annoying, irritating etc and just generally difficult to live with, is the view of most housemates...but none of that has any bearing with the thing with Ryan though...there are a few things with this for me...the playfight and the ‘punch’ wasn’t really shown in any way that could have been assessed by the viewer...and there are multiple cameras in the house so no reason for it not to be shown in a show which had that storyline as it were, as a large part of the focus in its ‘dramatics’...so that feels very manipulated by BB...and I think they’ve been particularly manipulating this year...they won’t even say why Rodrigo was ejected...they feel their viewers aren’t in the need to know basis corner..?...but BB wouldn’t exist without the viewers so that’s complete disrespect as well, completely dismissive of those people who are responsible for the show to be existing...so that’s the extent of their arrogance and manipulation as well...so are they manipulating it to show Roxanne being genuinely hurt and a playfight she was fine to participate in, having ‘gone to far’ with a punch from Ryan..?...and then her more or less asking for him to be removed from the house..?...well it wouldn’t make sense to me because the obvious thing with that..?...is that they would have showed the playfight with the detail and angle needed which would have shown she was dramatising something and manipulating for Ryan to be removed..so just confirming that ‘kooky old Roxanne’ which is creating a big talking about atm, surely what they want to be happening, to have that interest and for their programme to be being discussed in its controversy etc...if BB did actually feel there was something in the playfight that would or could be seen as a ‘concern’ in any ways Roxanne is seemingly perceiving it..?...if they agreed with her in any way then they would have to have removed him is the way I see it, they just wouldn’t have had any choice in the matter...but they haven’t though...a housemate has been physically hurt, feels in danger and not safe etc...but they’ve chosen to leave Ryan in there..?...just doesn’t really make sense to me at all and it’s what makes sense to us all as well...it’s also for me that she said something like..’oh I’ll be nominated or evicted now’...or some such thing...so she’s obviously very aware of perceptions and aware of manipulating perceptions as well, I feel..?...

...I don’t think she’s a victim in this with the play fight but I think she’s fine with creating a victim in Ryan though...so that goes a bit beyond ‘kookie Roxanne’ and would make her more the ‘person of danger’ in the house ...

[Ammi]

Have you even watched the clips?

Roxanne is the only one making a mockery of true domestic violence victims with this whole thing.

Ryan is the victim here.

...or what Josy said really...in fewer words....

[Ammi]

...BB might review the footage as they did with Rodrigo and eject Ryan in a week or so...maybe just before or maybe just after the final...depending how much time they have to look at it and decide..hopefully it won’t take so much time with this as it did with Rodrigo as Roxanne has alerted them straight away to look at those few seconds of footage...so they’ll get right on to that ejection and he’s gone...oh, he isn’t gone...maybe they will have to look at it for another week or so ...

[GoldHeart]

...or what Josy said really...in fewer words....

If anything Ryan should be the one scared and feeling unsafe being around Roxanne, who knows what the unhinged bitch will do next!! . I fear for Ryan's life! :worry::umm2:

[Ammi]

If anything Ryan should be the one scared and feeling unsafe being around Roxanne, who knows what the unhinged bitch will do next!! . I fear for Ryan's life! :worry::umm2:

...well I don’t fear for his life, GoldHeart..:laugh:...but I think it’s grim that she’s prepared to intimate what she is doing so definately more a ‘danger’ to him as he ever could be to her...and when he does come out..?...he does deserve to have interviews etc which aren’t largely dominated by a playfight ...which both seemed fine with until a slight change of movement or whatever caused the rib poke...and for that to be felt to be able to manipulate...very quick thinking from Roxanne I think...

[GoldHeart]

...well I don’t fear for his life, GoldHeart..:laugh:...but I think it’s grim that she’s prepared to intimate what she is doing so definately more a ‘danger’ to him as he ever could be to her...and when he does come out..?...he does deserve to have interviews etc which aren’t largely dominated by a playfight ...which both seemed fine with until a slight change of movement or whatever caused the rib poke...and for that to be felt to be able to manipulate...very quick thinking from Roxanne I think...

The point is Roxanne is hyping everything up to the MAX to make Ryan look like a thug , when she's the one that's a psycho!! . She's got serious mental issues that's why he should be careful :nono: .

[Elliot]

If anything Ryan should be the one scared and feeling unsafe being around Roxanne, who knows what the unhinged bitch will do next!! . I fear for Ryan's life! :worry::umm2:

It’s not Ryan I fear for, more so the people she associates with on the outside, including her fiancé

[AnnieK]

She has dropped a massive bollock here. Judging by public reaction and perception this could massively backfire and end up damaging HER career and life. To level an accusation and such extreme reaction has made people question her honesty and integrity.

[GoldHeart]

It’s not Ryan I fear for, more so the people she associates with on the outside, including her fiancé

i 100 % feel sorry for her fiance !!! ,even Nicola on BOTS had to drag her

[Ammi]

The point is Roxanne is hyping everything up to the MAX to make Ryan look like a thug , when she's the one that's a psycho!! . She's got serious mental issues that's why he should be careful :nono: .

..what was interesting as well for me..?...is how Ben was telling her directly what his feeling were for her, regardless of her having a fiancé etc...and then she went off to the diary room and to spend the night in the bedsit type room on her own...without really responding at all to him...which would have led him to believe she didn’t feel comfortable with what he had said and didn’t want to spend the night in the main bedroom with him present..which wasn’t the case at all...what he said to her seemed to just float over her while it was quite the declaration being made and needed instantly and directly addressing with him...he’s meant to be the person she feels closest to and has bonded with and fairly much needed his friendship in the house, is what she’s being saying..?...and yet she’s not seeming to be absorbing this very important thing he’s saying at all...or realising a response is needed and deserved by someone she’s feeling a very close friendship for...all interesting stuff I think, GoldHeart...

[GoldHeart]

..what was interesting as well for me..?...is how Ben was telling her directly what his feeling were for her, regardless of her having a fiancé etc...and then she went off to the diary room and to spend the night in the bedsit type room on her own...without really responding at all to him...which would have led him to believe she didn’t feel comfortable with what he had said and didn’t want to spend the night in the main bedroom with him present..which wasn’t the case at all...what he said to her seemed to just float over her while it was quite the declaration being made and needed instantly and directly addressing with him...he’s meant to be the person she feels closest to and has bonded with and fairly much needed his friendship in the house, is what she’s being saying..?...and yet she’s not seeming to be absorbing this very important thing he’s saying at all...or realising a response is needed and deserved by someone she’s feeling a very close friendship for...all interesting stuff I think, GoldHeart...

She's aggravating! & very manipulative and scheming!!! . I bet she thinks the public will be on her side because she acts like a 12 year old with ADHD and she probably thinks that's endearing , but fact of the matter is we've seen through her BS and that weak pathetic walk she did through the garden was all for attention aswell, she even waved at the other housemates :bored: :crazy: she's unstable !.

[jaxie]

I think it's quite obvious from the small footage that we've seen that no serious contact was made between Ryan and Roxanne. When someone hits someone hard there would be movement of stance and flinching and none of this was evident. Even her complaint it hurt was done with laughter and jokes about laundry. Then she went into the bedroom and it occurred to her she could drag airtime and drama from it. In my view I don't think he made any hard contact with her if any at all and he was just being playful. She milked it.

Having said that Ryan did invade her personal space and this should be a cautionary to him that you can't do that randomly because even if you think you are all mates and don't intend any malice, it may not be received with the same sentiments.

[Vanessa]

Roxanne is no victim and is fooling no one with her crocodile tears. If there's a victim in all this is Ryan. He's been called a wife beater, when all he did is playfully tap her on the arm :nono:

[Vanessa]

I think it's quite obvious from the small footage that we've seen that no serious contact was made between Ryan and Roxanne. When someone hits someone hard there would be movement of stance and flinching and none of this was evident. Even her complaint it hurt was done with laughter and jokes about laundry. Then she went into the bedroom and it occurred to her she could drag airtime and drama from it. In my view I don't think he made any hard contact with her if any at all and he was just being playful. She milked it.

Having said that Ryan did invade her personal space and this should be a cautionary to him that you can't do that randomly because even if you think you are all mates and don't intend any malice, it may not be received with the same sentiments.

But a warning for that is ridiculous. She playfights all the time herself.

[Ammi]

I think it's quite obvious from the small footage that we've seen that no serious contact was made between Ryan and Roxanne. When someone hits someone hard there would be movement of stance and flinching and none of this was evident. Even her complaint it hurt was done with laughter and jokes about laundry. Then she went into the bedroom and it occurred to her she could drag airtime and drama from it. In my view I don't think he made any hard contact with her if any at all and he was just being playful. She milked it.

Having said that Ryan did invade her personal space and this should be a cautionary to him that you can't do that randomly because even if you think you are all mates and don't intend any malice, it may not be received with the same sentiments.

...yeah it think that’s why he did get a warning, which I was totally appropriate as well because he did invade her personal space and BB would have seen that in reviewing the footage so didn’t leave for any possible ‘backlash’ as only a warning was appropriate which is what happened etc..I don’t think it was just about dragging drama though tbh...Roxanne showed a specific intent in that she wanted him out....out, out, out ...and in typical dramatic style with her....snd she didn’t care of any impact this could have on him at all...to say she felt in danger while he was in the house.../...just so shabby and grim...to create a victim in order to play a victim...

[jaxie]

But a warning for that is ridiculous. She playfights all the time herself.

Yes she does and she is always throwing herself around and bouncing about which makes Ryan's assumption that his playful jabbing would have been received in fun more valid. I do think she is in the wrong here but he did approach her and it is a lesson that you can't do that with anyone.

I also felt her behavior towards Been was rather cruel after he spilled his feelings out. She went to the spare room leaving him thinking it was because of him.

However my impression of Ben is that he has a very short attention span when it comes to women so pretty sure he will get over it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

What Roxanne and BB did was to cheapen violence against women and set it back a step


She should have been told that if she persists in false claims against Ryan she will be ejected and she SHOULD have been given a formal warning

And you look at Sir Cliff, Jimmy Tarbuck and all the other innocent celebs and you think of this incident and how batsh1t claims are given credence due to FEAR OF BLAME by the people the claims are made too.

It was disgusting to watch her and I hope she is now booted out forthwith

[Ammi]

...does she not realise when she jumps about the beds and such like...that she could jump on someone’s head or any part of them ...and she could be accused in the same way...

[kirklancaster]

I'm writing a new Film script about an attention-seeking 'Maverick' who is a patient in an asylum for the Criminally Inane (No that's NOT a typo) who sets out to ruin an innocent inmate with false accusations.

I have drafted the first scene but am now stuck.

Suggestions on a postcard, please.

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ONE DROPPED INTO THE CUCKOO'S NEST

Int. Kitchen. Day 3.55pm

Ryan playfully shadow-boxes around Pallett The Mallet.

Mallett
(playfully)
Owww. Woman beater That hurt

Ryan
Go on, what...Did it? Sorry.

Mallett
(jovially)
I was going to ask you what you want your washing on (through laughter) but I might shrink it instead.

Still laughing Roxanne exits to Bedroom with Ryan still playfully tickling her.

[GoldHeart]

...does she not realise when she jumps about the beds and such like...that she could jump on someone’s head or any part of them ...and she could be accused in the same way...

The double standards there would be she'd think she's innocent in playing around as she acts like she's mentally 13 . She's a massive hypocrite! she's always play fighting . That stupid dancing she did in the morning made her look like a demented frog! :bored: .

Just remember she didn't seem upset when he "hit " her , she was laughing and she joked about his laundry , even when she went "oww" it wasn't genuine it was false! . She's EFFED her chances!!! so mwahhaha to the dumb cow! :smug: .

[Ammi]

The double standards there would be she'd think she's innocent in playing around as she acts like she's mentally 13 . She's a massive hypocrite! she's always play fighting . That stupid dancing she did in the morning made her look like a demented frog! :bored: .

Just remember she didn't seem upset when he "hit " her , she was laughing and she joked about his laundry , even when she went "oww" it wasn't genuine it was false! . She's EFFED her chances!!! so mwahhaha to the dumb cow! :smug: .

...yeah that’s the thing, she’s very ‘boisterous’ in her instant daily actions and boisterous play can create a situation of someone being hurt in a physical way...as in playfighting as they were...I don’t think she’s aware of any hypocrisy she displayed with her accusation ...she just saw an opportunity and she took it within the blink of an eye...which is very telling of her character, regardless of any insecurities she may also have etc...what she hasn’t realised either is she had no or very little chance anyway of being a winner...but I do think she realised Ryan’s winning potential...

[Vanessa]

...yeah that’s the thing, she’s very ‘boisterous’ in her instant daily actions and boisterous play can create a situation of someone being hurt in a physical way...as in playfighting as they were...I don’t think she’s aware of any hypocrisy she displayed with her accusation ...she just saw an opportunity and she took it within the blink of an eye...which is very telling of her character, regardless of any insecurities she may also have etc...what she hasn’t realised either is she had no or very little chance anyway of being a winner...but I do think she realised Ryan’s winning potential...
She just boosted ryan winning chances :laugh:
. Dumb cow

[Ammi]

She just boosted ryan winning chances :laugh:
. Dumb cow

...did you have a hand in this, Vanessa...were you channelling vibes through Sally into the house and helping those winning chances along..:wink:..

[Vanessa]

...did you have a hand in this, Vanessa...were you channelling vibes through Sally into the house and helping those winning chances along..:wink:..

He's just got a huge boost on Tellymix since last night. Brilliant. He deserves it. :love:

[Vanessa]

Roxanne thinks ryan ia going to be hated and she will get all the sympathy :joker: Other way round!

[GoldHeart]

...yeah that’s the thing, she’s very ‘boisterous’ in her instant daily actions and boisterous play can create a situation of someone being hurt in a physical way...as in playfighting as they were...I don’t think she’s aware of any hypocrisy she displayed with her accusation ...she just saw an opportunity and she took it within the blink of an eye...which is very telling of her character, regardless of any insecurities she may also have etc...what she hasn’t realised either is she had no or very little chance anyway of being a winner...but I do think she realised Ryan’s winning potential...

What a shocking change in BB history with contradictions in rules :bored: .

does anyone remember Saskia from BB6 play fighting with Anthony with a cushion and he caused her to twist her foot , and she had to go to the doctors.

Amazing how he wasn't given a warning considering he actually hurt her even though he DIDN'T mean to. She was on crutches.


Or Mikey BB7 who grabbed Aisleyne's bum with his mouth , she cried and everything and don't remember him getting into trouble and that was assault surely? .

I know there's other instances in BB but those i remember .

[T*]

what about all the times she’s been playing soap opera and used a play slaal she’s just a hypocrite not a victim of anything in the house

[Vanessa]

What a shocking change in BB history with contradictions in rules :bored: .

does anyone remember Saskia from BB6 play fighting with Anthony with a cushion and he caused her to twist her foot , and she had to go to the doctors.

Amazing how he wasn't given a warning considering he actually hurt her even though he DIDN'T mean to. She was on crutches.


Or Mikey BB7 who grabbed Aisleyne's bum with his mouth , she cried and everything and don't remember him getting into trouble and that was assault surely? .

I know there's other instances in BB but those i remember .
That was a time when Big Brother wasn't so pc. They used to get up to all sorts and rarely got warnings.

[Vanessa]

what about all the times she’s been playing soap opera and used a play slaal she’s just a hypocrite not a victim of anything in the house

:clap1:

[T*]

oops I wrote slaal I meant slap um hehe

[poppsywoppsy]

How many times has she invaded others space and ears with her play fighting and prancing about. So many have complained about her lack of consideration towards others.

However or even if she was touched, it was ACCIDENTAL, as should be viewed as such.

Accidents happen but to use them as a ploy to oust a rival from the house is wrong.

Ryan should have been told not to let it happen again but a formal warning for an accidental minor happening was ridiculous.

As her Emmerdale colleagues and other actors who know her are calling her out as not reliable and a liar, no further actions should be necessary and her sleeping in another room should not be allowed again. If she doesn't like it, the Diary Room door to the outside, is open.

[rusticgal]

I'm writing a new Film script about an attention-seeking 'Maverick' who is a patient in an asylum for the Criminally Inane (No that's NOT a typo) who sets out to ruin an innocent inmate with false accusations.

I have drafted the first scene but am now stuck.

Suggestions on a postcard, please.

a
ONE DROPPED INTO THE CUCKOO'S NEST

Int. Kitchen. Day 3.55pm

Ryan playfully shadow-boxes around Pallett The Mallet.

Mallett
(playfully)
Owww. Woman beater That hurt

Ryan
Go on, what...Did it? Sorry.

Mallett
(jovially)
I was going to ask you what you want your washing on (through laughter) but I might shrink it instead.

Still laughing Roxanne exits to Bedroom with Ryan still playfully tickling her.

Kingston could help...:laugh:

[Nancy.]

How many times has she invaded others space and ears with her play fighting and prancing about. So many have complained about her lack of consideration towards others.

However or even if she was touched, it was ACCIDENTAL, as should be viewed as such.

Accidents happen but to use them as a ploy to oust a rival from the house is wrong.

Ryan should have been told not to let it happen again but a formal warning for an accidental minor happening was ridiculous.

As her Emmerdale colleagues and other actors who know her are calling her out as not reliable and a liar, no further actions should be necessary and her sleeping in another room should not be allowed again. If she doesn't like it, the Diary Room door to the outside, is open.

Ooh, the plot thickens. Which Emmerdale stars said that?

[Vanessa]

Ooh, the plot thickens. Which Emmerdale stars said that?

Danny Miller.

[smudgie]

To be fair, the victim in all this is Ryan.
Poor lad, thank goodness it was all there to see on camera.

[Nancy.]

Danny Miller.

Thanks, Vanessa.

[chuff me dizzy]

To be fair, the victim in all this is Ryan.
Poor lad, thank goodness it was all there to see on camera.

Yes, Im not a fan of his, but he is the victim,I wish it had shown a better camera angle on BOTS ,It will be interesting to see what the following morning was like, my bet is he apologised to her

[hijaxers]

Yes, Im not a fan of his, but he is the victim,I wish it had shown a better camera angle on BOTS ,It will be interesting to see what the following morning was like, my bet is he apologised to her

Well i'd be furious with her if she had accused me after such a non intentional incident and i would be giving her a very wide berth !

[chuff me dizzy]

Well i'd be furious with her if she had accused me after such a non intentional incident and i would be giving her a very wide berth !

But does he know that she accused him ,or does he think BB saw something ?

[*mazedsalv**]

Look at the tweets from HER own co-stars who state that she is a compulsive liar.

And also tweets of men in the industry that have had Roxy file complaints against them and have had her ruin their careers.

Now tell me, if it was the other way round would you be defending the actions?

[chuff me dizzy]

Look at the tweets from HER own co-stars who state that she is a compulsive liar.

And also tweets of men in the industry that have had Roxy file complaints against them and have had her ruin their careers.

Now tell me, if it was the other way round would you be defending the actions?

No wonder she 35 and unmarried ,I bet the new boyfriend will run for the hills after the show

[Cherie]

No wonder she 35 and unmarried ,I bet the new boyfriend will run for the hills after the show

If his comments about Ryan and the dress are to be believe he is as bad as her....

Ben better watch out or he will have a sexual harrassment lawsuit slapped on him

[*mazedsalv**]

Danny Miller, Suzanne Shaw, Adele Silva and Charley Webb slating Roxy... these are her co stars who have said how much of a liar she is.

Then the Corrie lot defending Ryan include:

Georgia May Foote, Hayley Tamaddon, Samia Ghadie, Brook Vincent and Sally Anne Matthews

This poll is pretty close.....

https://twitter.com/CBBpolling/status/1035272638082572288

Are you one of the 1%?

[poppsywoppsy]

How can Roxy even begin to look Chloe in the eye after this or was it Chloe who unwittingly gave her the idea.

[Cherie]

She is finished, she did predict she would unravel and it would seem she predicted correctly

[Denver]

She wasnt even touched

[Mystic Mock]

Her reaction is mocking genuine victims of domestic violence.

[AnnieK]

The thing is now she is going to suffer from abuse from all angles when she gets out. They have already had to disable all her social media and everyone knows about this, not just people who watch the show, its on everything. For whatever reason she decided to do this, spite, competition elimination etc, she has effectively ruined her own career for the foreseeable. I was angry last night but I actually now think she is genuinely mentally unwell (or maybe just completely dense that what happened would not be caught on camera). She's in for a rough ride for sure.

With the way she was I am actually worried she could harm herself in the bathroom (to try and cause bruising) to try and give credence to her accusation, she seems that unhinged.

[Nancy.]

Look at the tweets from HER own co-stars who state that she is a compulsive liar.

And also tweets of men in the industry that have had Roxy file complaints against them and have had her ruin their careers.

Now tell me, if it was the other way round would you be defending the actions?

Bloody hell. How is she allowed to get away with this? She's disgusting.