USA: Policewoman entered wrong flat and shot black neighbour dead

[arista]

[The policewoman thought she was walking into her own home, and mistook her neighbour for an intruder.]


This is terrible
how the Hell can she not know
she was in the Wrong home?

https://e3.365dm.com/18/09/1096x616/skynews-botham-shem-jean-dallas_4415052.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180908145401
Never live next door to a Stressed Female USA Cop
in Dallas.


[Police intend to charge the woman with manslaughter, and she has been placed on leave in the meantime.]


https://news.sky.com/story/policewoman-entered-wrong-flat-and-shot-black-neighbour-dead-officers-say-11493274

[Maru]

:(

[Elliot]

How the hell did she mess that up asdffg

[Jordan.]

Disgusting, hopefully she gets a long sentence for being so trigger happy.

[Maru]

How the hell did she mess that up asdffg

The other question, how was she able to enter an apartment she didn't have the key for? The family said it was obvious on the inside that things were different as well... so weird.

[Maru]

Source: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/07/dallas-cop-fatally-shoots-neighbor-in-his-apartment-after-mistaking-it-for-her-own-police-say.html

"Somebody has to be crazy not to realize that they walked into the wrong apartment," Allie Jean told NBC News. "He's a bachelor. Things are different inside."

"It's terrible. I hope it's just a tragic accident and nothing more than that," Tomiya Melvin, who lives nearby, told Dallas News. "This area appealed to me because it always seemed so safe, and so far it has been. But I won't be leaving my door unlocked anymore, that's for sure."

:facepalm:

(Edit) Not face-palming the man for leaving his door unlocked as that is not enough to justify this... but rather that other people apparently leave their doors unlocked as well... What???.. I can understand if it were a house in some rural area, but it was an apartment... in Dallas.

[Marsh.]

Pathetic. Manslaughter? She murdered the poor man in cold blood!

[Marsh.]

Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?

And what on earth was he doing that she thought she would need to shoot him immediately before speaking?

****ing dangerous woman who needs locking up.

[DouglasS]

I don't believe it was a mistake. I reckon it was murder and intentional.

[caprimint]

I don't believe it was a mistake. I reckon it was murder and intentional.
Yeah, I'm sure there's more to it

[Maru]

Pathetic. Manslaughter? She murdered the poor man in cold blood!

Cold blood? Maybe, but if it was self-defense, that wouldn't be the case...the circumstances centering around this very sketchy though so I think this won't go away without some answers... they did drug/alcohol testing as well... we have accidents happen in the US, unfortunately, but this is the strangest one I'd ever come across...

I've never heard of anyone ever walking into the wrong apartment, but it's possible. I'm forgetful though, have been on medications before that made me even more clutzy and woo woo and it's usually the more mundane stuff I will forget... but I never forgot where I lived... walked to the wrong building maybe if I were a newer resident... but with a doorway, it's usually displaced in some manner that you can tell, well it's the 2 door down from X ... next to fire extinguisher... not tucked away into a corner... by the stairs, etc...

[Marsh.]

Cold blood? Maybe, but if it was self-defense, that wouldn't be the case..

It clearly was not self defence, she entered HIS home!

[Marsh.]

I've never heard of anyone ever walking into the wrong apartment, but it's possible. I'm forgetful though, have been on medications before that made me even more clutzy and woo woo and it's usually the more mundane stuff I will forget... but I never forgot where I lived... walked to the wrong building maybe if I were a newer resident... but with a doorway, it's usually displaced in some manner that you can tell, well it's the 2 door down from X ... next to fire extinguisher... not tucked away into a corner... by the stairs, etc...

She didn't just enter the wrong apartment but shot the man dead on sight.

It can be quite easy I imagine, if you're tired or not concentrating properly to enter the wrong apartment if the door is open. But to shoot the first person you see? No. Definitely more to that.

[arista]

How the hell did she mess that up asdffg



Long day at work.

[arista]

Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?

And what on earth was he doing that she thought she would need to shoot him immediately before speaking?

****ing dangerous woman who needs locking up.


Seems even though at her home or near it
she was not expecting anyone in her flat,
so she shot him fast - thinking he broke in?
She was sill in Alert Police Mode

[UserSince2005]

silly cow

[Maru]

Also, he was her neighbour? How did she not recognise him?

Americans I think tend to be more paranoid or at least awkward about our surroundings I think... so that's one... we also don't tend to like to be forced into small talk with folk we don't know we will get on with. So I think our social lives are a bit insular, at worst, anti-social than it used to be...

I've lived in 'burbs and apartments where no one says hi to each other or even hangs around outside their door or on their patio... super paranoid and it was like that in the shops as well... saying hello to people seemed to inconvenience others... though Texas is not generally that because we're more outgoing, so that's a bit odd to me as well, Marsh.

Though... consider the policewoman may have been doing a lot of shift work. Especially if she was a "newboot" and hasn't been in long enough to change to other positions or bid for better hours, then it's likely she was on the late shift... so she will more than likely be coming and going at odd hours. If she's working an EJ (extra job) for extra money which is super common, then she may rarely be home as it is... so it's not unusual if the resident is law enforcement that neighbors will almost never see them... we know a lot of folk and a vast majority work late shift, particularly if it's in the city... we have a neighbor who we see their car, but I have seen them once and I've lived here 3-4 years...

If the folk who live there are saying the opposite though and these two have mingled, then that would be a major red flag for me... it's possible though they were a newer resident as well and just didn't know their surroundings well enough yet... or maybe that was her first time coming home at night possible if you work during the day and get off 6-7... our nights run very late here in Texas, sometimes to 9-10 around summer solstice... but police here do a lot of night shift work, so that wouldn't be common I think... especially in the city...

I will say though, some peace officers don't like to mingle too much with total strangers, especially if they are in an apartment and identifiable. There is retaliation with that job and my husband had "run ins" of his own...(Edit) I forgot to mention as well, also because people will harass them frequently to come handle their ticket or personal drama :smug:... unfortunately some aspects of that work can make some individuals a bit cautious towards strangers. That won't ever change as it's habits that all peace officers develop over time just from what they look out for and be conscious of as part of their work...

[Maru]

She didn't just enter the wrong apartment but shot the man dead on sight.

It can be quite easy I imagine, if you're tired or not concentrating properly to enter the wrong apartment if the door is open. But to shoot the first person you see? No. Definitely more to that.

Yeah none of it makes any sense. My husband can be jumpy, but not nearly anything like that. Like when in restaurants, etc, he has a bit more anxiety if we sit somewhere where he can't see the doors, doesn't like his back towards total strangers when sitting to eat... all his coworkers/friends outside of work are the same and it's an unspoken rule... we have people in the cities here they will come in and rob at gun-point and kill attendants, so that happens... but the reason for his seating arrangement, they are always trained to not leave their back exposed to inmates, suspects, etc... in fact, altercations have happened to newer recruits who didn't do that in a detention's setting so he's quick to correct newer people on it... in the police academy, they were required by their drill sgts to reverse-park into their parking spot so that the front is facing out for security but also respect (they would go to the parking lot and perform drills, etc) ... anyway, it's been said that it just feels wrong to not park as such after it's been ingrained so long... I won't let him park my car that way though :smug:... but he's always been a reverse-parking kind of guy...

[Crimson Dynamo]

we need all the facts before we reach for the picthforks

[montblanc]

what do you mean "more facts" she went into an apartment that wasn't hers and shoot her neighbor without question

[Marsh.]

Americans I think tend to be more paranoid or at least awkward about our surroundings I think... so that's one... we also don't tend to like to be forced into small talk with folk we don't know we will get on with. So I think our social lives are a bit insular, at worst, anti-social than it used to be...


I'm not expecting her to invite him in for a sleepover.

I don't really socialise with my neighbours, but I recognise them when I see them.

I also know what living room is mine and what is someone else's. :joker:

[RileyH]

Stupid bitch

[Marsh.]

Yeah none of it makes any sense. My husband can be jumpy, but not nearly anything like that. Like when in restaurants, etc, he has a bit more anxiety if we sit somewhere where he can't see the doors, doesn't like his back towards total strangers when sitting to eat... all his coworkers/friends outside of work are the same and it's an unspoken rule... we have people in the cities here they will come in and rob at gun-point and kill attendants, so that happens... but the reason for his seating arrangement, they are always trained to not leave their back exposed to inmates, suspects, etc... in fact, altercations have happened to newer recruits who didn't do that in a detention's setting so he's quick to correct newer people on it... in the police academy, they were required by their drill sgts to reverse-park into their parking spot so that the front is facing out for security but also respect (they would go to the parking lot and perform drills, etc) ... anyway, it's been said that it just feels wrong to not park as such after it's been ingrained so long... I won't let him park my car that way though :smug:... but he's always been a reverse-parking kind of guy...

My god. Does he not have therapy or anything to help with the anxiety?

That must be so frustrating to be like that in public.

[bots]

if she entered the wrong apartment, she clearly committed a crime in killing the resident. The only question should be the extent of her crime, and that cant be judged from a media report

[Maru]

My god. Does he not have therapy or anything to help with the anxiety?

That must be so frustrating to be like that in public.

It's expected with the work. :shrug: I just have to make sure to give him some daily therapy at home. :spin: But in serious-ness, we're quite conscious of it and how far we let the work seep into our lives and that anxieties are talking about/addressed... they do give ample comp time, personal time, family time (for family issues, medical, etc)... he could take off a whole month and then some from comp for pretty much any reason... our benefits are also excellent so that helps... he's debating scheduling some Acupuncture appts to help with stress, to decomp...

But yeah, that's part of why divorce rate is so high for police work... and suicide... but the Catch-22 of therapy with anything law enforcement, military, if it's on record it can affect promotions... which is kind of understandable really, especially in the military... do we really want to send someone who may pop unexpectedly into a dangerous setting and actually have them lead other people?... so yeah, it could be a red flag for promotion... but they actually told him about a program yesterday, it's anonymous and held by the department... he can come in for counseling, family assistance (like helping with home repairs, etc) and other things... so that was great to hear actually because the pressure to perform keeps people from going... people tend to become very close-knit in that work (and the families as well), so yeah... officers will cry on each other's shoulders or talk privately about something bad if necessary... so that does help a lot I think that it is a very supportive community...

we need all the facts before we reach for the picthforks

We're only speculating at this point... that's fine, it's a forum. :shrug:

I'm not expecting her to invite him in for a sleepover.

I don't really socialise with my neighbours, but I recognise them when I see them.

I also know what living room is mine and what is someone else's. :joker:

I think I haven't stressed enough how dodgy some Americans can be in a normal social setting. :laugh: From everything I've read, relative to our overseas comrades, we seem to be significantly more paranoid about random encounters... we're just so independent, so that's part of it as some people here are really hermetic now (particularly the young), and obviously we compete over everything...

[Marsh.]

I think I haven't stressed enough how dodgy some Americans can be in a normal social setting. :laugh: From everything I've read, relative to our overseas comrades, we seem to be significantly more paranoid about random encounters... we're just so independent, so that's part of it as some people here are really hermetic now (particularly the young), and obviously we compete over everything...

That and the silly gun laws are a terrible match. :omgno:

[Tom4784]

It won't surprise me if it turns out to be an intentional murder, there's too many things that don't add up to be an accident.

It's another example of a trigger happy police officer killing a black person for basically existing.

[Vicky.]

**** off with manslaughter/self defence excuse. This was clearly murder.

[Moniqua]

we need all the facts before we reach for the picthforks

oh fook off,

these bullsh*t excuses for blatant murder (of black people) needs to stop ffs

[kirklancaster]

Has anyone got the answers to the following?:

What colour is the cop?

If she entered the wrong flat by mistake then one has to presume that the flat door was unlocked.

Because she is a cop, one has to further presume that she left her own flat door locked, so didn't she stop and think upon finding the flat door which she was entering unlocked?

Are ALL the Flats identical on the exterior? I'm talking door styles, the colour of doors.

Were the doors not numbered?

Personally, I think this stinks to High Heaven and the sooner that the facts are published the better.

[Crimson Dynamo]

oh fook off,

these bullsh*t excuses for blatant murder (of black people) needs to stop ffs

:facepalm:

[bots]

oh fook off,

these bullsh*t excuses for blatant murder (of black people) needs to stop ffs

so the facts of the case are not necessary to reach a conclusion?

[user104658]

I would call total bull**** - except that when we were at University, me, my (now) wife and FOUR other people got home from a night out, walked into the back garden of her house, found the house locked and the key not working and became enraged that one of her housemates (who she didn't really get one with) had changed the locks.

Except, we were at completely the wrong house.

But wait, it gets weirder.

This house had a large wooden fence that we scaled to get to the back door, her house did not. WE THOUGHT HER HOUSEMATE HAD BUILT A FENCE. We were ****ing furious about it all. Shouting and swearing. Then a neighbour comes out like "excuse me, that's not your house".

It was like a fog lifted and we suddenly realised that it clearly wasn't... Which cued hysterical laughter for a good 20 minutes.

OK yes, we were all pretty drunk, but six of us?? All totally immersed in this delusion. And when we looked at the house the next day, it looked nothing LIKE her house. It had steps leading up to the door and hers didn't! It still creeps me out thinking about it. Temporary, shared, complete ****ing insanity.


... However in THIS case I do kinda call BS and I think there's probably more to the story.

Just saying, I do totally believe its feasible.

[kirklancaster]

I would call total bull**** - except that when we were at University, me, my (now) wife and FOUR other people got home from a night out, walked into the back garden of her house, found the house locked and the key not working and became enraged that one of her housemates (who she didn't really get one with) had changed the locks.

Except, we were at completely the wrong house.

But wait, it gets weirder.

This house had a large wooden fence that we scaled to get to the back door, her house did not. WE THOUGHT HER HOUSEMATE HAD BUILT A FENCE. We were ****ing furious about it all. Shouting and swearing. Then a neighbour comes out like "excuse me, that's not your house".

It was like a fog lifted and we suddenly realised that it clearly wasn't... Which cued hysterical laughter for a good 20 minutes.

OK yes, we were all pretty drunk, but six of us?? All totally immersed in this delusion. And when we looked at the house the next day, it looked nothing LIKE her house. It had steps leading up to the door and hers didn't! It still creeps me out thinking about it. Temporary, shared, complete ****ing insanity.


... However in THIS case I do kinda call BS and I think there's probably more to the story.

Just saying, I do totally believe its feasible.


:joker::joker::joker: - The emboldened.

I have shared a hallucination with two others back in the early 70's whilst we were all tripping out on LSD but SIX of you pissed? WTF were you all drinking? :wavey:

[Maru]

It's also feasible the keys could've matched both locks... that happens with some of the cheaper locksets... it was known to happen at one of the apartments we lived at...

It happens pretty often with Masterlocks. I had a key for a padlock at my house and it worked for most of the padlocks on our school property ^-^... there's apparently only so much variability between different locksets... so yeah, when I had heard from our maintenance man there had been that problem at our apartment, I completely knew where he was coming from...

[Maru]

I would call total bull**** - except that when we were at University, me, my (now) wife and FOUR other people got home from a night out, walked into the back garden of her house, found the house locked and the key not working and became enraged that one of her housemates (who she didn't really get one with) had changed the locks.

Except, we were at completely the wrong house.

But wait, it gets weirder.

This house had a large wooden fence that we scaled to get to the back door, her house did not. WE THOUGHT HER HOUSEMATE HAD BUILT A FENCE. We were ****ing furious about it all. Shouting and swearing. Then a neighbour comes out like "excuse me, that's not your house".

It was like a fog lifted and we suddenly realised that it clearly wasn't... Which cued hysterical laughter for a good 20 minutes.

OK yes, we were all pretty drunk, but six of us?? All totally immersed in this delusion. And when we looked at the house the next day, it looked nothing LIKE her house. It had steps leading up to the door and hers didn't! It still creeps me out thinking about it. Temporary, shared, complete ****ing insanity.


... However in THIS case I do kinda call BS and I think there's probably more to the story.

Just saying, I do totally believe its feasible.

Well they did do alcohol/drug testing for a reason... :laugh: Funny how y'all had a collective consciousness/matched intellect for that short bit... might've achieved something really productive there if y'all had had a different kind of conversation... :laugh:

[Maru]

She's been arrested.

Dallas officer Amber Guyger arrested on manslaughter charge in Botham Jean shooting
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/texas/dallas-officer-amber-guyger-arrested-on-manslaughter-charge-in-botham-jean-shooting/285-592459528

WHAT HAPPENED

After working a 12-hour shift, which included overtime, Officer Guyger returned home Thursday around 10 p.m. and walked to an apartment unit she believed to be her own at the Southside Flats in the 1200 block of South Lamar.

Officer Guyger was in full uniform when she encountered Jean in the apartment, according to Dallas Police Chief U. Renee Hall.

It is unclear what the interaction was between Guyger and Jean, Hall said, but at some point she did fire her weapon, striking the victim.

The officer called 911 and authorities responded and took Jean to the hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Guyger hadn’t been questioned when Hall spoke early Friday afternoon, and Hall said no information was available about Guyger’s level of fatigue at the time of the shooting.

A blood sample was drawn from the officer to test for alcohol and drugs.

Dallas police began the investigation under normal officer-involved shooting protocol, but, after the circumstances of the shooting became clear, the Texas Rangers were tapped to lead the investigation.

“As we continued the investigation, it became clear that we were dealing with what appears to be much of a very unique situation.” said Chief Hall.

Hall acknowledged that the investigation was in its infancy early Friday afternoon.

“There are more questions than we have answers,” she said.

[Maru]

I don't think alcohol is likely involved if she came post-shift in uniform... unless she's got some stored in her car... drinking while in uniform though is a big no-no... she'd still be seen as representing the agency if seen, so subject to their rules of behavior...

[user104658]

As a theory... maybe when she walked in unannounced thinking it was her place, the victim thought SHE was an intruder and ran in shouting aggressively or waving something (as you probably would if a stranger walked into your home) at which point the officer, believing she was in HER home, reacted and pulled her weapon. That could all happen pretty quickly before she had a chance to look around and realise she was in the wrong apartment, if the hallways / external doors etc. all look the same.

[user104658]

I guess it's also relevant to know what had happened on her previous shift, e.g. had there been any aggressive or violent altercations that would have left her on edge / jumpy.

[Niamh.]

I don't believe it was a mistake. I reckon it was murder and intentional.

mmm the story sounds utterly ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

no point speculating till the facts are in

[Niamh.]

no point speculating till the facts are in

The facts are she walked into her neighbours apartment and shot him dead because she apparently thought it was her apartment? That sounds really odd. Does she not know what the guy living next door looks like?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The facts are she walked into her neighbours apartment and shot him dead because she apparently thought it was her apartment? That sounds really odd. Does she not know what the guy living next door looks like?

maybe not

[Niamh.]

maybe not

and you don't think that's odd? or that it's odd to not know it wasn't your apartment when you opened the door or just walking into the wrong apartment full stop? Ok then

[Crimson Dynamo]

and you don't think that's odd? or that it's odd to not know it wasn't your apartment when you opened the door or just walking into the wrong apartment full stop? Ok then

i dont presume anything, just deal with the evidence

[bots]

We really don't know all the relevant facts. For example was the guy who got shot pointing a gun at her when she shot him? I'm not trying to make excuses for the woman, but we just don't know enough about the circumstances to be able to draw a sensible conclusion. I'm sure all the details will come out eventually, and hopefully the correct punishment will be applied.

[Niamh.]

i dont presume anything, just deal with the evidence

Ok but I'm literally commenting on the facts there

[smudgie]

Perhaps she didn't have time to turn the light on before Mr.Jean appeared, shock and her training would be to protect herself.
On the other hand, maybe they were having an affair, or a neighbourly squabble:shrug:
We know nothing as yet.

[user104658]

Perhaps she didn't have time to turn the light on before Mr.Jean appeared, shock and her training would be to protect herself.
On the other hand, maybe they were having an affair, or a neighbourly squabble:shrug:
We know nothing as yet.

That was my thinking Smudgie... if she did really think she had opened the right door and he reacted by moving towards the door probably shouting (like anyone would), then she may have reacted without actually having time to look at where she was / who it was. If she thought it was her home, and that no one should be in there.

But if they DID know each other, there's always the possibility that it was an argument gone wrong and she's come up with the story afterwards to try to cover it up :shrug:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I expect she thought it was her house and she had uncovered an intruder, you cant be too careful in USA

Im sure it was just a freak accident

[Marsh.]

Im sure it was just a freak accident

How? We don't know all of the facts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

How? We don't know all of the facts.

yes just speculation like us all

once all the evidence is in I am sure that will be the case

but you are right to highlight the danger of speculation based on scant evidence, just like the whole BLM debacle

[arista]

I expect she thought it was her house and she had uncovered an intruder, you cant be too careful in USA

Im sure it was just a freak accident


More Tragic

[Niamh.]

How? We don't know all of the facts.

oh touche marshie :fan:

You're allowed speculate that the cop was right i think

[Marsh.]

oh touche marshie :fan:

You're allowed speculate that the cop was right i think

:smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

your smug moosh and neems post would only work if i had not put "I expect"

i was aware it was idle speculation as is all of this thread (mixed in with the usual anti-police sentiment)

[Niamh.]

your smug moosh and neems post would only work if i had not put "I expect"

i was aware it was idle speculation as is all of this thread (mixed in with the usual anti-police sentiment)

Yes I expect that neighbor was probably a perp anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

Pathetic. Manslaughter? She murdered the poor man in cold blood!

also it would also have looked better had you not posted the above on page one


:smug::smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes I expect that neighbor was probably a perp anyway

we have yet to establish if that is correct


and by the way it was not a next door neighbour as i read, it was on a different floor :shocked:

[Niamh.]

we have yet to establish if that is correct


and by the way it was not a next door neighbour as i read, it was on a different floor :shocked:

:suspect: odd indeed

[Crimson Dynamo]

:suspect: odd indeed

this is why we have courts and not mob justice

[Marsh.]

and by the way it was not a next door neighbour as i read, it was on a different floor :shocked:

More evidence against the murderer.

[Marsh.]

also it would also have looked better had you not posted the above on page one


:smug::smug:

It's called sarcasm.

I'm not the one lecturing the whole thread on what they can and cannot comment because it doesn't fall in line to what you think and so try to silence them with ridiculous comments you don't apply to yourself.

But, yes... carry on.

[Maru]

One report is saying she never gained entry. Mayor said she parked on the wrong floor of the parking garage and went to apt on wrong floor[/B. She used her key on the door which obviously didn't work. The victim opened the door which initiated the interaction... so she never gained entry to the apartment.

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Another has neighbors saying they heard "Police, Open up" at some point...

Another report:

[B]Botham Jean's door was unlocked, lights were off when Officer Amber Guyger mistook his apartment for hers, official says
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/dallas-police/2018/09/09/botham-jeans-door-unlocked-amber-guyger-mistook-apartment-official-says

The Dallas police officer who killed 26-year-old Botham Jean in his own apartment got inside because the door wasn’t locked, a law enforcement official said Sunday.

Officer Amber Guyger had just ended a 15-hour shift when she parked on the wrong level of the South Side Flats garage— the fourth floor instead of the third, where she lived, according to the official who has direct knowledge of the case but is not authorized to discuss it publicly.

Dallas Mayor Mike Rawlings also said Sunday that Guyger parked on the wrong floor.

She went to the door she thought was hers but was one floor too high. The four floors of the South Side Flats in the Cedars look the same, with concrete floors and tan doors. A light fixture to the side of each door displays the apartment number.

Guyger, 30, was arrested Sunday on a manslaughter charge and was booked into the Kaufman County Jail. The Texas Rangers are investigating the case at the request of Dallas Police Chief U. Renee Hall. In the last year, juries have sentenced two police officers in Dallas County to prison time after convicting them of murder.

The night of the shooting, Guyger didn’t notice that Jean's door had a red doormat in front of it, the official said. Her entrance didn’t have one.

Flowers at the front door of Botham Jean, who Dallas police say was shot Thursday by Amber Guyger, an off-duty police officer who said mistakenly thought her apartment was his. Guyger was in uniform. She was arrested Sunday on a manslaughter charge.

https://i.imgur.com/uQ99hXM.jpg

Guyger, who was still in uniform, put her key in the door, which was unlocked, and the door opened, the official said. The lights were out. She saw a figure in the darkness and thought her
apartment was being burglarized, the official said. Guyger pulled her gun and fired twice.

When she turned on the lights, she realized she was in the wrong apartment. Jean, who worked for PricewaterhouseCoopers, was shot once in the chest.

Authorities have said Guyger and Jean, a native of Saint Lucia in the Caribbean, did not know each other. Guyger, a nearly five-year veteran of the Police Department, had recently moved into the complex.

https://i.imgur.com/owsHAI5.png

Guyger called 911 crying, the official said. She repeatedly said, “I thought it was my apartment” and apologized to Jean.

“I’m so sorry,” she can be heard saying on the recording of the 911 call, the official said. Police arrived within four minutes.

A video taken by someone at the apartment complex shows Guyger in the hallway crying and pacing with a phone to her ear.

The video shows paramedics rushing by with Jean on a stretcher as a paramedic kneels on top of him, performing chest compressions.

Jean, who is remembered as someone who "loved mankind," was pronounced dead at Baylor University Medical Center.

[Maru]

This reporting/rumors have been an utter mess... if you search the lady's name on Instagram, there's an account with witness video as well... the man being rolled away on stretcher while receiving chest pumps by EMT... and the officer "pacing" in another.. but you can better see how the building itself looks on the inside...

Anyone, more background on her:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/amber-guyger/

[arista]

Yes sure she worked a long day.
But this is still so Tragic
she went in the wrong flat.

She is Sadly Guilty of Murder
of a innocent black man.

[Niamh.]

Yes sure she worked a long day.
But this is still so Tragic
she went in the wrong flat.

She is Sadly Guilty of Murder
of a innocent black man.Yep, a young man with his whole life ahead of him, very sad

[kirklancaster]

This reporting/rumors have been an utter mess... if you search the lady's name on Instagram, there's an account with witness video as well... the man being rolled away on stretcher while receiving chest pumps by EMT... and the officer "pacing" in another.. but you can better see how the building itself looks on the inside...

Anyone, more background on her:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/amber-guyger/

Thank you for this Maru. It is proving so difficult to find information on this on the net.

Whatever the facts are behind it, I think the fact that she was involved in a previous fatal shooting despite her relatively short time in the force may prove to be damning for her come any trial.

[Maru]

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[Denver]

She should face the death penalty

[user104658]

IF it's found that they were indeed strangers and had no personal connection / there had been no dispute between them (a noise dispute is possible, given that it's directly above?) or anything like that, then I'm inclined to believe it based on that report. If the hallways all look the same, and she simply absent-mindedly drove her car up one too many levels in the parking garage, then it is feasible that she thought she had returned to her own apartment and found the door ajar / someone inside.

A tragic misunderstanding if so.

However, ONCE AGAIN, it does strike me that if this had happened in the UK, she would NOT have been carrying a lethal firearm. She would have shouted or screamed or said "Who the **** are you, get out!!", MAYBE she might have thrown something at him, and then they would have both realised the mistake and probably have had a good laugh about it and told the story for years to come. Instead, she was able to put a bullet in him in seconds before anyone had time to think.


Which also makes me realise, in the story above where me and my friends went to the wrong house and started trying to get in / shouting at the windows... in a large number of US states... we might well have been ****ing shot :umm2:.

[Niamh.]

IF it's found that they were indeed strangers and had no personal connection / there had been no dispute between them (a noise dispute is possible, given that it's directly above?) or anything like that, then I'm inclined to believe it based on that report. If the hallways all look the same, and she simply absent-mindedly drove her car up one too many levels in the parking garage, then it is feasible that she thought she had returned to her own apartment and found the door ajar / someone inside.

A tragic misunderstanding if so.

However, ONCE AGAIN, it does strike me that if this had happened in the UK, she would NOT have been carrying a lethal firearm. She would have shouted or screamed or said "Who the **** are you, get out!!", MAYBE she might have thrown something at him, and then they would have both realised the mistake and probably have had a good laugh about it and told the story for years to come. Instead, she was able to put a bullet in him in seconds before anyone had time to think.


Which also makes me realise, in the story above where me and my friends went to the wrong house and started trying to get in / shouting at the windows... in a large number of US states... we might well have been ****ing shot :umm2:.

Yeah totally agree. Once again guns and shoot first ask questions later mentality that's caused this. It's actually worse because she's a Police Officer too, she should be trained not to just fire her gun like that