View Full Version : Hardeep vs Sally: Who was in the right?
Epic.
08-09-2018, 09:51 PM
Poll incoming
Denver
08-09-2018, 09:51 PM
Hardeep
Rufus
08-09-2018, 09:53 PM
Honestly I'm neutral about it, both of them extremely overreacted.
smudgie
08-09-2018, 09:54 PM
Both of them.
Sally shouldn't have been so insensitive, and Hardeep should have not walked away.
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:00 PM
Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.
Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.
Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.
BBDodge
08-09-2018, 10:01 PM
Sally's comment WAS borderline racist. She should have apologised for being insensitive.
She's a bit dim.
Denver
08-09-2018, 10:02 PM
Hardeep looks for racism all the time, he sees it to make himself seem superior by putting others in the wrong.
Super sensitive, he mentions white peoples ethnicity just the same they do him but they are in the wrong according to him.
Good riddance misery guts, it is only making him miserable, he is his own worst enemy.
So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:04 PM
So do you think it is acceptable for Sally to make comments about religious clothing and treat it as a toy?
She was unaware it was religious clothing.
He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.
Denver
08-09-2018, 10:06 PM
She was unaware it was religious clothing.
He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racistt card was played.
She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well
RileyH
08-09-2018, 10:06 PM
Sally obvs
Robodog
08-09-2018, 10:07 PM
Let's flip it:
Imagine they were acting out a 'holiday beach' scene instead and Sally told Gabby 'you look too pale for the part, stick some fake tan on'
It's no more racist than that.
Jack_
08-09-2018, 10:09 PM
Hardeep
She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question :skull:
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:10 PM
She mentioned Sikhs so knew fair well
Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.
All it needed was a reasoned explanation.
tiger_greengrass
08-09-2018, 10:12 PM
Hardeep
She obviously didn't mean it maliciously but 'why are you so brown?' is such a messy question :skull:
Context matters.
Denver
08-09-2018, 10:15 PM
Doesn't mean she knew the turban was for religious reasons.
All it needed was a reasoned explanation.
If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment
Strictly Jake
08-09-2018, 10:28 PM
Only watched first section so far but
Sally did say you look to brown
But she went ott when they sat round the table
And maybe hardeep tried to stir it a bit further so...
joeysteele
08-09-2018, 10:29 PM
Both for me.
She wasn't being racist at all but perhaps a little insensitive.
They know Hardeep has a thing re race, and is sensitive to it.
If he was expected to think on all he says then that has to apply to all of them too.
chuff me dizzy
08-09-2018, 10:30 PM
Hardeep was right, Sally is an age 60+ woman she knew fine well what a turban was, she said what she said to either upset Hardeep or to make him kick off
Morgan.
08-09-2018, 10:31 PM
Sally obvs
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chuff me dizzy
08-09-2018, 10:32 PM
She was unaware it was religious clothing.
He could have explained it and an apology would have been forthcoming. But no, the racist card was played.
No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:33 PM
[QUOTE=Adam.;10212341]If you say what is that thing Sikhs wear then you obviously know it is a religious garment[/QUOTE
It sounds as if she didn't know or she would have said the correct words. It was said in the heat of the moment and it was clear she viewed it as a scarf.
How would anyone feel when they have to watch their every word because someone was just waiting to catch them out. As Sally said, it was like walking on glass.
Hardeep has the problem, as Kirstie told him and to his credit he agreed.
JoshBB
08-09-2018, 10:35 PM
Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off
chuff me dizzy
08-09-2018, 10:38 PM
Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off
And not a tear in sight
Jase.
08-09-2018, 10:42 PM
Hardeep for sure. If she didn't realise how what she was saying was offensive, she should've allowed for him to explain so she could learn. Instead she played the victim and tried to paint him as some kind of "boy who cried wolf". baggy fanny **** off
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poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:42 PM
No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs
Even if she did, which I don't believe, she wasn't being malicious at all, just throwing out suggestions for the roleplay.
Thoughtless, silly, but not racist, but didn't he jump on it. Even he said he shouldn't have.
Garfie
08-09-2018, 10:44 PM
To me, Sally was in the wrong here. Her comments did come across as borderline racism. The comment about the turban was cringeworthy. And Sally has made too many comments that imply exactly what Hardeep is suggesting.
I'm not a massive fan of Hardeep, but I do understand him taking offence, and the fact that all the housemates shouted him down when they have not been on the receiving end of racism made it worse.
Having said that, Hardeep could have handled it better but I get the fact that his own experience of life has made him sensitive, and I think he walks away as he doesn't feel he can be heard even when he tries to explain things. I just wish he wouldn't apologise when it should have been Sally apologising.
I do wonder if Sally might have been evicted had this been aired yesterday. It's certainly changed the order that I now want the remaining housemates to be evicted.
chuff me dizzy
08-09-2018, 10:45 PM
Even if she did, which I don't believe, she wasn't being malicious at all, just throwing out suggestions for the roleplay.
Thoughtless, silly, but not racist, but didn't he jump on it. Even he said he shouldn't have.
She was goading him IMO
No not racist but so disrespectful
hijaxers
08-09-2018, 10:46 PM
Even if she did, which I don't believe, she wasn't being malicious at all, just throwing out suggestions for the roleplay.
Thoughtless, silly, but not racist, but didn't he jump on it. Even he said he shouldn't have.
That's his problem he does jump and then run ~ he has done it continually in the house and its no surprise they were sick of it ~ stay and talk don't insult and run.
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 10:49 PM
She was goading him IMO
No not racist but so disrespectful
Perhaps so, but I do think she has been on a short fuse with him for a while because of his jibes.
Still, he is gone, the atmosphere has already changed for the better.
Cheers:wavey:
chuff me dizzy
08-09-2018, 10:53 PM
Perhaps so, but I do think she has been on a short fuse with him for a while because of his jibes.
Still, he is gone, the atmosphere has already changed for the better.
Cheers:wavey:
IMO She had more of a problem with him than she had with her, she backstabbed him every chance she got, you never saw Hardeep say anything bad about her ,he admitted to BB they didn't get on, but he didn't do it to anyone in the house to influence nominations
Epic.
08-09-2018, 10:53 PM
To me, Sally was in the wrong here. Her comments did come across as borderline racism. The comment about the turban was cringeworthy. And Sally has made too many comments that imply exactly what Hardeep is suggesting.
I'm not a massive fan of Hardeep, but I do understand him taking offence, and the fact that all the housemates shouted him down when they have not been on the receiving end of racism made it worse.
Having said that, Hardeep could have handled it better but I get the fact that his own experience of life has made him sensitive, and I think he walks away as he doesn't feel he can be heard even when he tries to explain things. I just wish he wouldn't apologise when it should have been Sally apologising.
I do wonder if Sally might have been evicted had this been aired yesterday. It's certainly changed the order that I now want the remaining housemates to be evicted.
This is probably my answer :clap1:
Jase.
08-09-2018, 10:54 PM
Sally hissing "He can go **** himself" when H left the room showed which out of the two of them has class.
Epic.
08-09-2018, 10:55 PM
Sally hissing "He can go **** himself" when H left the room showed which out of the two of them has class.
And she said it just after a simple question by him about her suitcase, I mean what
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Jase.
08-09-2018, 10:56 PM
And she said it just after a simple question by him about her suitcase, I mean what
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She's vile, hen. Bloody vile!
tiger_greengrass
08-09-2018, 11:00 PM
To me, Sally was in the wrong here. Her comments did come across as borderline racism. The comment about the turban was cringeworthy. And Sally has made too many comments that imply exactly what Hardeep is suggesting.
I'm not a massive fan of Hardeep, but I do understand him taking offence, and the fact that all the housemates shouted him down when they have not been on the receiving end of racism made it worse.
Having said that, Hardeep could have handled it better but I get the fact that his own experience of life has made him sensitive, and I think he walks away as he doesn't feel he can be heard even when he tries to explain things. I just wish he wouldn't apologise when it should have been Sally apologising.
I do wonder if Sally might have been evicted had this been aired yesterday. It's certainly changed the order that I now want the remaining housemates to be evicted.
How do you know they haven't been on the receiving end of racism? Do you know them personally?
Garfie
08-09-2018, 11:04 PM
I don't believe for one moment that, even if she doesn't understand the religious significance of Hardeep's turban, that Sally didn't know what it is called. How can she correctly refer to him as a Sikh- the most obvious sign of identity being the turban- without being able to refer to a turban correctly.......? That just doesn't add up for me.
Even giving her the benefit of the doubt, and assuming she didn't know, to refer to it as that thing he wears on his head was totally disrespectful.
The more I think about Sally and her actions throughout this series, the more I think her comments do have racist undertones, which I think she attempts to mask by pleading innocence.
Epic.
08-09-2018, 11:05 PM
How do you know they haven't been on the receiving end of racism? Do you know them personally?
What does that matter? The important thing is that they know Hardeep has been and Sally still went ahead with her careless generalisations
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 11:11 PM
No one in that house thought Sally was being racist.
Kirstie spoke very clearly to Hardeep about it, explained how the housemates felt about his allegation and he rescinded his remarks.
They were actually there and witnessed it all.
Marsh.
08-09-2018, 11:16 PM
DON'T come for a woman's bunions. :nono:
Garfie
08-09-2018, 11:21 PM
How do you know they haven't been on the receiving end of racism? Do you know them personally?
Obviously not. However, logic would suggest that as white Brits in Britain it is much less likely, and even if they have been for any reason, the degree would be miniscule compared to someone of a different race, colour and religion, like Hardeep.
And, yes, I realise that Ryan has some Indian ancestry, but without being made aware of that, it is not immediately recognisable. And, yes, Kirstie is American, but again she is white, and comes from a country where racism is strongly focused on black people and ethnic minorities.
I think the answers to the questions posed are pretty self explanatory and obvious. History and actual statistics should give us a good indication of the likelihood of the remaining housemates having been victims of racism to the degree that Hardeep would have experienced it.
saiwong
08-09-2018, 11:21 PM
Sally's comment WAS borderline racist. She should have apologised for being insensitive.
She's a bit dim.
Sally's comment was borderline racist, but Hardeep knew that.
Hardeep saw the opportunity to 'trigger' a housemate, cos that's what he 's been doing... then walking away and let the chaos ensue.
Does everyone remember Aaron and Faye from BBUK12 ?
Hardeep is following Aarons strategy of … inciting....letting chaos ensue ...then apologising
Its all done on purpose, Hardeep played them.
However, Hardeep using the race card is deceitful
so both Sally and Hardeep did wrong
Garfie
08-09-2018, 11:31 PM
No one in that house thought Sally was being racist.
Kirstie spoke very clearly to Hardeep about it, explained how the housemates felt about his allegation and he rescinded his remarks.
They were actually there and witnessed it all.
Just because no one in the house thought Sally was being racist, it doesn't mean they were right. They are just a very small handful of people.
And just because Hardeep rescinded his comments, and apologised, doesn't mean it wasn't racist or that he didn't feel on the receiving end of racism. Sometimes, when you feel that everyone is against you and that you are banging your head against a brick wall, it is easier and simpler to give in, just to keep the peace, particularly when you are contained within a very limited space.
poppsywoppsy
08-09-2018, 11:47 PM
Just because no one in the house thought Sally was being racist, it doesn't mean they were right. They are just a very small handful of people.
And just because Hardeep rescinded his comments, and apologised, doesn't mean it wasn't racist or that he didn't feel on the receiving end of racism. Sometimes, when you feel that everyone is against you and that you are banging your head against a brick wall, it is easier and simpler to give in, just to keep the peace, particularly when you are contained within a very limited space.
What you have not addressed is the intent to be racist.
Hardeep has violated every other housemates space with his breaking wind, rudeness and racist allegations.
If an unmeaning remark can be judged racist, then Hardeep is just as guilty at times with his many nasty jibes at white men.
Yet not one of them has made as much about his colour as he has himself. In fact they have bent over backwards not to exclude him, yet it was he who would walk off after dropping insults.
He insulted their intelligence constantly, yet an unthinking careless remarks got called out for being "borderline racist"
Garfie
09-09-2018, 12:30 AM
What you have not addressed is the intent to be racist.
Hardeep has violated every other housemates space with his breaking wind, rudeness and racist allegations.
If an unmeaning remark can be judged racist, then Hardeep is just as guilty at times with his many nasty jibes at white men.
Yet not one of them has made as much about his colour as he has himself. In fact they have bent over backwards not to exclude him, yet it was he who would walk off after dropping insults.
He insulted their intelligence constantly, yet an unthinking careless remarks got called out for being "borderline racist"
I have addressed intent in previous posts, so didn't want to repeat.
Ironically, I am not a Hardeep fan, and agree with you that he has been too heavy and intense when it comes to racism, sexism, etc. I do believe that, on many occasions, he has chosen to play devil's advocate just to trigger a reaction in others, and I can understand why housemates might find this annoying.
I also find him a little self-pitying and insincere at times.
However, I do believe he was right in referring to Sally's comments as borderline racist. There have just been too many examples of it. Obviously, none of us can get inside Sally's mind in order to know her intent, so all any of us can do is give our own impressions and interpretations of her motives.
I'm not going to repeat previous posts- where my reasons are explained- but my impression is that Sally's comments have undertones of racism.
clairefromsomewhereinnort
09-09-2018, 12:40 AM
It was based on initial "use thing on your head as bandaging" which hard to believe Sally didn t realise that was offensive before she said it, as i ve said in my new thread. Also i ve said, it must have been hard for him to trust her anyway after her completely turning about the intention behind his supportive bunion remark and plotting off back of it for days before.
Aaliyah
09-09-2018, 01:05 AM
Sally all the way. Hardeep playing the race card ao glad hes out
Slevin
09-09-2018, 02:42 AM
more on Hadeep side than Sally though i think both handled it wrong in different ways. what im more baffled by is how everyone doesnt get that someone saying something racist/borderline racist isnt saying they are racist. they just didnt want to hear that part from him. its like they never heard of ignorance.
wendywillow
09-09-2018, 03:49 AM
i was on sallys side (nothing she said was racist or "borderline" lol) till she erupted in tears and tried to make a meal of it, they were both acting the fool, i think hardeep responded well when Kirstie called him out on the
dropping bombs and the leaving part'
Cherie
09-09-2018, 06:55 AM
She was goading him IMO
No not racist but so disrespectful
Yes she was, and off the back of what she said about his turban I can see why he was upset, she has friends of all religion but doesnt know what a turban is?
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 09:13 AM
Yes she was, and off the back of what she said about his turban I can see why he was upset, she has friends of all religion but doesnt know what a turban is?
Exactly, she knew exactly what she was doing by disrespecting his religion
Hardeep is right that a pattern has emerged of Sally making dubious comments. She might not have meant them maliciously in which case she should have realised that she'd upset and offended someone and apologised for it, instead she went ott defensive with her 'I'm not having it' screeching. In the end it's her demanding an apology from Hardeep when it should have been the other way round
Aaliyah
09-09-2018, 09:46 AM
I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.
Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 10:00 AM
I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.
Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.
I agree with you and yes she did say "You're too brown" then lied that she had said it
Chero
09-09-2018, 10:04 AM
Maybe Hardeep should have let it slide, but if someone feels offended, the person who offended them should apologize. Sally was wrong. Sally is the one who blew it out of proportion.
Aaliyah
09-09-2018, 10:06 AM
I agree with you and yes she did say "You're too brown" then lied that she had said it
It hurts me to say it because I didn't like Hardeep as a housemate but it was never because of race. Sally is very calculating and sneaky, I've massively gone off her. I can't believe I voted for her against Hardeep, I never would have had I known she is in fact a closet racist.
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 10:09 AM
It hurts me to say it because I didn't like Hardeep as a housemate but it was never because of race. Sally is very calculating and sneaky, I've massively gone off her. I can't believe I voted for her against Hardeep, I never would have had I known she is in fact a closet racist.
I was 2 ways with Hardeep one minute hated him then next minute felt really sorry for him as they did ostracise him ,but he was right about Sally ,she's an awful woman
Calderyon
09-09-2018, 10:26 AM
Sally is a horrible person and a fraud, but I am not sure about racist.
poppsywoppsy
09-09-2018, 10:30 AM
I was 2 ways with Hardeep one minute hated him then next minute felt really sorry for him as they did ostracise him ,but he was right about Sally ,she's an awful woman
Hardeep would insult them and walk off and sit by himself. Many times it was shown how they went and spoke to him to get involved.
Hardeep chose to isolate himself, he bragged about upsetting them as he thought he was being clever. He was his own worst enemy many times.
He even said white housemates were the KKK how's that for a racist remark but they didn't take umbrage with him.
Epic.
09-09-2018, 10:33 AM
Sally is a horrible person and a fraud, but I am not sure about racist.
Dunno about racism, but she is at the very least racially ignorant as most people would know that if you don't know what a turban is, never under any circumstance tell a Sikh person about 'the thing on their head.' And as far as fraudulence goes, she absolutely used that to her advantage last night. Notice how within a matter of seconds of her being upset the housemates ended up ALL taking turns having a disagreement with Hardeep. She knew she'd be safe with her backup and I hope she gets what's coming from the crowd tomorrow night
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 10:38 AM
Hardeep would insult them and walk off and sit by himself. Many times it was shown how they went and spoke to him to get involved.
Hardeep chose to isolate himself, he bragged about upsetting them as he thought he was being clever. He was his own worst enemy many times.
He even said white housemates were the KKK how's that for a racist remark but they didn't take umbrage with him.
Yes I agree he was his own worst enemy a lot of the time, but all the backstabbing about him from them ALL apart from Nick who stayed nuetral was awful
The KKK thing was disgusting and I slaughtered him for saying it, but all in all I think he had a hard ride in there all down to Sally stirring the pot due to her hatred of him
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 10:39 AM
Dunno about racism, but she is at the very least racially ignorant as most people would know that if you don't know what a turban is, never under any circumstance tell a Sikh person about 'the thing on their head.' And as far as fraudulence goes, she absolutely used that to her advantage last night. Notice how within a matter of seconds of her being upset the housemates ended up ALL taking turns having a disagreement with Hardeep. She knew she'd be safe with her backup and I hope she gets what's coming from the crowd tomorrow night
:clap1: Sally was the ring leader
troy4783
09-09-2018, 11:17 AM
I voted Sally but now I think about it I think they both extremely overreacted !
kirklancaster
09-09-2018, 11:20 AM
Show me ANY middle-aged woman who does NOT know what a Turban is and what it is called, and I will show you a woman who MUST have lived in splendid isolation in a cave since she was 5 years old.
Ignore Sikhism, the Turban has been a highly recognised FASHION item for women since women started adorning their heads:
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.XfIQrxz3Gv-E9LPkFaOGHAHaEr&pid=15.1&P=0&w=242&h=153
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bByDw1fkEsuZVT4mLIGDOAAAAA&pid=15.1&P=0&w=211&h=167
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.f73sq2mx0Rlr-sCSwCcJxAHaLH&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
MIDDLE-AGED SALLY MORGAN IS A LIAR.
Patricia4
09-09-2018, 11:32 AM
Hardeep he had every right to be upset
Niamh.
09-09-2018, 03:47 PM
Hardeep, that comment was borderline
Paula D
09-09-2018, 04:04 PM
No sorry ,I usually agree with all you say, but my 9 yr old granddaughter would know what a turban is ,so Sally knew what it was and how symbolic it is to Sikhs
Exactly this. Anyone who lives in the UK and claims not to know what a turban is called is flat out lying.
Paula D
09-09-2018, 04:06 PM
Although I can't stand Sally I was on her side before they showed the remark about the turban. That was extremely offensive and I wish Hardeep had pulled her up on that there and then.
By kicking off the following day and walking out of the room he did himself no favours.
Gusto Brunt
09-09-2018, 04:09 PM
Hardeep is always looking for racist comments.
If you said to him at tea, 'please pass the brown sauce', he'd think you were being racist.
He's a pain in the botty.
Crimson Dynamo
09-09-2018, 04:23 PM
Sihks fought in the war for the UK and to dismiss his turban as it it were a mere rag and she did not know what it was called was racism pure and simple
lets face facts - she and her husband dont like brown people, or gay people
end of
Gusto Brunt
09-09-2018, 04:27 PM
I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.
Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...
And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.
Niamh.
09-09-2018, 04:31 PM
I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.
Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...
And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.So what though? Unless he follows everything to the letter it doesn't count or?
chuff me dizzy
09-09-2018, 04:41 PM
Sihks fought in the war for the UK and to dismiss his turban as it it were a mere rag and she did not know what it was called was racism pure and simple
lets face facts - she and her husband dont like brown people, or gay people
end of
So true, we owe Sikhs a lot, they are a proud people who stood side by side with us during the war
Yes I agree on the vile couple .. Birds of a feather and all that !!
kirklancaster
09-09-2018, 04:47 PM
I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.
Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...
And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.
Here you go, Gusto - from 'GoSikh':
"I want to use this space and share what my Turban means to me. While I have always been a Sikh as long as I have existed, I learn more about my religion, my faith each passing day.
Everyday,
I wear my Turban as a mark of Respect to my elders and the Gurus.
I wear my Turban with Dignity
I wear my Turban as a Tribute to the Gurus
I wear my Turban to pray for all the Sikhs who have sacrificed their lives so we can have a better one
I wear my Turban with Pride to show to the world that I am Proud to be a Sikh
I wear my Turban as a sign of a humble creation of God.
I wear my Turban so I can find another in the crowd.
I wear my Turban because it is part of me and I would not have it any other way.
Turban is a valuable and sacred piece of cloth (many meters in length) that Sikh Men and Women use to cover their Kesh (Hair).
A Turban is supposed to be untied and tied daily and the Turban deserves the highest respect and should be placed in a respectable place in the house.
Many religions and cultures require their followers to wear a Turban or a head covering. Sikhs cover their head with a Turban."
Garfie
09-09-2018, 09:29 PM
I was told Sikhs do not cut their hair, as a religious observance.
Yet Hardeep has clearly cut his...
And he seems to wear the turban as and whenever he sees fit.
Actually, look a little more closely and you will see that he has his hair tied up in a little bun on the back of his head.
GoldHeart
09-09-2018, 09:35 PM
Show me ANY middle-aged woman who does NOT know what a Turban is and what it is called, and I will show you a woman who MUST have lived in splendid isolation in a cave since she was 5 years old.
Ignore Sikhism, the Turban has been a highly recognised FASHION item for women since women started adorning their heads:
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.XfIQrxz3Gv-E9LPkFaOGHAHaEr&pid=15.1&P=0&w=242&h=153
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bByDw1fkEsuZVT4mLIGDOAAAAA&pid=15.1&P=0&w=211&h=167
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.f73sq2mx0Rlr-sCSwCcJxAHaLH&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
MIDDLE-AGED SALLY MORGAN IS A LIAR.
:clap1:
Turban is known to everyone unless they're brainless .
The only other idiot who didn't call it a turban was Roxanne who called it a "hat" :facepalm: ,but as we all know Roxanne is a nutter anyway .
Show me ANY middle-aged woman who does NOT know what a Turban is and what it is called, and I will show you a woman who MUST have lived in splendid isolation in a cave since she was 5 years old.
Ignore Sikhism, the Turban has been a highly recognised FASHION item for women since women started adorning their heads:
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.XfIQrxz3Gv-E9LPkFaOGHAHaEr&pid=15.1&P=0&w=242&h=153
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.bByDw1fkEsuZVT4mLIGDOAAAAA&pid=15.1&P=0&w=211&h=167
https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.f73sq2mx0Rlr-sCSwCcJxAHaLH&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
MIDDLE-AGED SALLY MORGAN IS A LIAR.
I thought these were pictures of other psychics :joker:
(Edit) I wouldn't have thought it was religious dress. Only once or twice I've seen anyone with a turban? So I wasn't aware it was anything but a cultural practice... we do see people use those headdresses though in costumes in performance art... so maybe she thought it was more akin to the predecessors to her line of work? :laugh:
Epic.
28-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Rewatched this the other day, what a horrible malicious liar this woman was to twist things to make the whole house gang up on him. At one point she even laughs "Ha I never even mentioned his color BROWN :rolleyes: " :skull:
RileyH
28-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Aaah Sally was a legend
JerseyWins
28-10-2018, 02:55 PM
Hardeep stays WINNING
Matthew.
28-10-2018, 03:36 PM
Hardeep. ALWAYS Hardeep.
montblanc
28-10-2018, 04:16 PM
obviously hardeep
sally was ****ing awful during this
reece(:
28-10-2018, 04:21 PM
I didn't want to see this bumped and have to remember dire CBB22
Elliot
28-10-2018, 05:37 PM
I didn't want to see this bumped and have to remember dire CBB22
cbb22 was one of the greater cbbs asdf
Elliot
28-10-2018, 05:40 PM
Also Sally was increcibly vile but hardeep won in the end with the hardeep chants and Sally boos so
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