Serena Williams has meltdown at US open finale

[Daniel-X]

Naomi Osaka became the first Japanese player to win a Grand Slam singles title when she beat Serena Williams 6-2, 6-4 in the US Open final on Saturday but the victory will be overshadowed by a climax in which Williams harangued the umpire at length after initially being accused of receiving coaching from the stands.

Osaka, 20, prevailed in the first major final of her career, thus preventing Williams from winning a record-equalling 24th grand slam title.

Williams was given a game penalty during the second set after a row erupted with umpire Carlos Ramos, who handed the American a code violation for illegal on-court coaching.

Full link and video below: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/08/serena-williams-rails-at-umpire-as-superb-naomi-osaka-wins-us-open

[Daniel-X]

We LOVE her

#CBBSerena

[hijaxers]

We LOVE her

#CBBSerena

I think she has baby brain - i saw her wearing a tu tu !! its a game of bloody tennis not Swan Lake darlin.

[Niamh.]

Serena is a queen, that tutu was amazing [emoji16]

[Marsh.]

Quite sexist tbh. She's always been... shall we say... passionate!

But now she's had a baby we can say it's because of that!

Suppose it beats saying she must be on her period!

[Niamh.]

Quite sexist tbh. She's always been... shall we say... passionate!

But now she's had a baby we can say it's because of that!

Suppose it beats saying she must be on her period!John McEnroe must have loads of babies

[Marsh.]

John McEnroe must have loads of babies

:joker:

[MTVN]

She's a disgrace, should be utterly embarrassed about her actions last night

[DouglasS]

Serena is my favourite women’s tennis player, she’s very passionate and I can see why this game meant so much, it’s her first grand slam final since her daughter and she’s not won the US Open in so many years.

[arista]

Full link and video below: https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/08/serena-williams-rails-at-umpire-as-superb-naomi-osaka-wins-us-open



Yes BAD LOSER

[arista]

She's a disgrace, should be utterly embarrassed about her actions last night



Yes
Smashing her racket
as she was losing the game.


Typical of her

[Cherie]

She has won so much, I appreciate it must be hard to lose, but you have to accept winning and losing with grace in sport

[Crimson Dynamo]

vile woman

just nasty

[bots]

awful behaviour, i hope she gets a suspension for it that ends her career. No place for that behaviour in sport

[Gstar]

Whew! The white people are mad

[Cherie]

Whew! The white people are mad

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Whew! The white people are mad

:umm2:

[user104658]

Whew! The white people are madTo be fair this is kind of nonsense as Serena Williams has been high profile in tennis for what? A decade or longer? And has been popular and celebrated. I'm not a huge tennis fan but as far as I know, she was black the entire time, and it's not a recent deleopment. I might be wrong, of course. Really nothing to do with race. People didn't like it when Andy Murray (a white male) was getting heated constantly in his earlier career and he was clearly told by his coaches etc. to reign it in. It's just not considered part of the sport, beyond some mild frustration during the game, it's supposed to be all hugs and handshakes at the end of the match.

[James]

She had a tantrum. Emotions get the better of players sometimes. That's happened in tennis many times in the past, and will happen many times in the future. It's like this forum on Monday if Ryan wins CBB. :hehe:

The unfair part though is accusing the umpire of being sexist. Stuff like that has consequences. You can't just throw that kind of accusation out without backing it up.

[arista]

Whew! The white people are mad



That has feck all to do with this
SHE was losing the GAME
FACT

[arista]

She has now been FINED $17,000


which is most fair.

[arista]

She had a tantrum. Emotions get the better of players sometimes. That's happened in tennis many times in the past, and will happen many times in the future. It's like this forum on Monday if Ryan wins CBB. :hehe:

The unfair part though is accusing the umpire of being sexist. Stuff like that has consequences. You can't just throw that kind of accusation out without backing it up.

Yes hope the site does not Crash

[Macie Lightfoot]

"Meltdown" give me a break that was some tame ass ****

[Captain.Remy]

I watched it live last night and I was starstruck. I think it's a miscommunication issue. TO him she got coaching, to her she didn't see anything. And then it went wild and she felt attacked in her character. Sometimes it shows even the biggest champions crack under the pressure. It all went very far, and she will learn her lesson.

I felt really bad for Naomi who is very shy in the first place. She played a stellar game and had to apologize for it, and that makes me mad. No one deserves to feel like this on any victory in their career. But I felt like Serena tried her best to make it right in the end to shift the spotlight to Naomi. And they had kind words for each other in press conferences.
But still, Naomi couldn't live it fully, she stood there sad and really emotional even though the boos were not for her. Hopefully she gets more grand slam victories to enjoy completely.

[Captain.Remy]

She had a tantrum. Emotions get the better of players sometimes. That's happened in tennis many times in the past, and will happen many times in the future. It's like this forum on Monday if Ryan wins CBB. :hehe:

The unfair part though is accusing the umpire of being sexist. Stuff like that has consequences. You can't just throw that kind of accusation out without backing it up.

On the sexist stuff, I agree she should not have directed this at him. But to a certain extent she is right: dudes sometimes are way more vocal or "aggressive" towards umpires and yet the umpires don't take it as far. So I can understand the upset, but the umpire only applied the rules, and she knows that. Just wrong timing, her emotions took over.

[JoshBB]

She was justified in her actions tbh. Like, I understand why she was angry and from what I've read, the ref wasnt being fair.

This + her not being allowed to wear that outfit for medical reasons smells like institutional bias to me

[arista]

She was justified in her actions tbh. Like, I understand why she was angry and from what I've read, the ref wasnt being fair.

This + her not being allowed to wear that outfit for medical reasons smells like institutional bias to me



But the Way she Pointed at him
and spoke to him
was Evil.




This why she got a $17,000 Fine



Everyone must respect Rules

[Gstar]

“Evil” ... :laugh:

[armand.kay]

Barely a meltdown she's just very passionate didn't seem at all out of control. Serena has lost before so this "oh she's just a bad loser" angle just isn't gonna stick with me.

[armand.kay]

She was justified in her actions tbh. Like, I understand why she was angry and from what I've read, the ref wasnt being fair.

This + her not being allowed to wear that outfit for medical reasons smells like institutional bias to me

Totally agree Serena has had to put up with so much **** from them as well as from the media. They are desperate to find some way of discrediting her.

[armand.kay]

Whew! The white people are mad

https://media1.tenor.com/images/42f2d181118a0b6ba193e2456752ef44/tenor.gif?itemid=12350266

[arista]

“Evil” ... :laugh:


Yes Evil
like saying he will never be in charge of a match with her , again?


She has no right to say that.



She got Fined $17,000
JUSTICE

[arista]

Barely a meltdown she's just very passionate didn't seem at all out of control. Serena has lost before so this "oh she's just a bad loser" angle just isn't gonna stick with me.


Wrong Smashing the Racket
Getting her Evil Finger pointing at the Official
Its feck all to do with being Black
or being a women.
Calling in him a "thief"

That official
is always on the ball.

She Failed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Barely a meltdown she's just very passionate didn't seem at all out of control. Serena has lost before so this "oh she's just a bad loser" angle just isn't gonna stick with me.

:rolleyes:

she was losing to a kid, her time at the top is over, she was being illegally coached - she called the umpire a thief and a liar


horrible woman and righty vilified and fined for her disgusting tantrum and bad sportsmanship

[Daniel-X]

I just put meltdown because that’s what the media were calling it! Stop attacking me!
https://photogallery.indiatimes.com/photo/35517423.cms

[armand.kay]

urgh what a sour looser. oh wait...
1038759740527009792

also Kiiii at the tennis community standing behind our Serena with some men admitting that they've done worse and got away with it... even the girl she lost to is a Serena stan

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/18/09/1096x616/skynews-serena-paper_4418324.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20180912033839
Australia [Amid anger at its decision to publish a "racist" cartoon of the tennis star, the Herald Sun runs it again on a special front page.]

https://news.sky.com/story/welcome-to-pc-world-paper-defends-serena-williams-cartoon-11495668


https://e3.365dm.com/18/09/750x563/skynews-serena-williams-cartoon_4417901.png?bypass-service-worker&20180911152047

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes how dare someone draw her and make out she is black afro american woman with a nasty temper and poor sportsmanship...

[armand.kay]

Why was Naomi drawn as a blond white woman?

[hijaxers]

Why was Naomi drawn as a blond white woman?

Yes massive error on the cartoonists part just adding more fuel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why was Naomi drawn as a blond white woman?

her face is not white, the umpires is

[armand.kay]

her face is not white, the umpires is

Looks pretty white to me... what about the straight blond hair?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks pretty white to me... what about the straight blond hair?

you need a better monitor

that lady often dyes her hair blonde

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3d/7f/1c/3d7f1cdc6e6a4f6d9f4c9ca87eae4235--us-open-osaka.jpg

[armand.kay]

URGH our Kelechi was stunning on BBC breakfast this morning

[armand.kay]

you need a better monitor

that lady often dyes her hair blonde

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/3d/7f/1c/3d7f1cdc6e6a4f6d9f4c9ca87eae4235--us-open-osaka.jpg

Sorry you really can't convince me that drawring is intended to be the same woman

[MTVN]

She's just a background figure in a cartoon though, he's not trying to do an accurate portrait and how she's drawn doesn't really affect the joke

[Crimson Dynamo]

She's just a background figure in a cartoon though, he's not trying to do an accurate portrait and how she's drawn doesn't really affect the joke

precisely, its a cartoon


Perhaps Williams, who will be aware of the black stereotype of the angry aggressive black woman, had thought about her behavoir (angry and aggressive) when she is a privileged black role model to children then she would not have behaved in such a horrible way?



The story is about her vile tantrum and bad sportsmanship

nothing else.

https://www.brytfmonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/US-Open-2018-Naomi-Osaka-wins-final-vs-Serena-Williams.jpg

[armand.kay]

Are you saying that black women shouldnt be alound to be passionat or angry about something because of the stereotype. Why can white men get heated and break their rackets without it reflecting badly on the entire group? Athleats getting angry during a game is nothing new, its unfair that serena is being portayed as a monster for losing her rag.

[armand.kay]

Also one minute the drawring of naomi looks like her and then it doesn't because its just a bg cartoon thats not ment to represent her. So whats the truth?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you saying that black women shouldnt be alound to be passionat or angry anout somwthinf because of the stereotype. Why can white men get heated and break their rackets without it reflecting badly on the entire group? Athleats getting angry during a game is nothing new, its unfair that serena is being portayed as a monster for losing her rag.

lol

you obviously were not around when McEnroe was vilified in this country, and how he was treated by spitting image


so sorry, your point is not valid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Also one minute the drawring of naomi looks like her and then it doesn't because its just a bg cartoon thats not ment to represent her. So whats the truth?

Just dispelling your myth she does not have blonde hair

what do you want to have a go at now?

The umpire's shoes?

[armand.kay]

Lol

[Niamh.]

Are you saying that black women shouldnt be alound to be passionat or angry anout somwthinf because of the stereotype. Why can white men get heated and break their rackets without it reflecting badly on the entire group? Athleats getting angry during a game is nothing new, its unfair that serena is being portayed as a monster for losing her rag.

Exactly.

[Tom4784]

What a messy situation, I don't get the logic of punishing a player for being coached, surely they should just send the offending coach away while the game is ongoing? Punishing the player seems a bit silly.

She should have tried to communicate her point better but I definitely think she got a penalty because she was a woman because male players have been vocal and aggressive to umpires without any kind of penalty. That's a massive imbalance there.

I also think, due to the newspaper cartoon that's went viral, this has become a race issue. She's being painted as the angry black woman when, if she was a white man or a woman, she wouldn't be seen in the same way.

[Niamh.]

She had a tantrum. Emotions get the better of players sometimes. That's happened in tennis many times in the past, and will happen many times in the future. It's like this forum on Monday if Ryan wins CBB. :hehe:

The unfair part though is accusing the umpire of being sexist. Stuff like that has consequences. You can't just throw that kind of accusation out without backing it up.

Call me physic

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/sei_25570799-e024.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C618

[bots]

Just to point out that McEnroe got loads of penalty points during his career, referees were called in etc etc ... and he was a white male

t0hK1wyrrAU

[Niamh.]

McEnroe is a really extreme example though tbf BOTS, he was more famous for his tantrums than anything else. It would be ridiculous to compare him with Serena

[Alf]

Whew! The white people are madThat makes a change, it's usually the Brown ones.

[Marsh.]

Why was Naomi drawn as a blond white woman?

I don't think much effort/focus was put into actually drawing a cartoon of the umpire or Naomi. Just on the Serena drawing as she is the focus of the caricature. Much like the Donald Trump ones.

[Marsh.]

lol

you obviously were not around when McEnroe was vilified in this country, and how he was treated by spitting image


so sorry, your point is not valid

Tbh, the point he made to you is valid.

You defended the point that the drawing DOES in fact look like her, and then defended it for NOT looking anything like her.

Either it does or it doesn't. :joker:

[Nicky91]

McEnroe is a really extreme example though tbf BOTS, he was more famous for his tantrums than anything else. It would be ridiculous to compare him with Serena

McEnroe is quite entertaining now though in his segment on game, set, mats

:laugh:

Mats Wilander is a good expert for the slam day highlights, discussions before and after the matches, he was full of praise to Naomi Osaka, but he was also quite shocked that Serena had lost the final while she had been playing amazing throughout the US Open now

[Crimson Dynamo]

sigh

yes its just the women players who get the violations and warnings...


https://news.sky.com/story/serena-williams-isnt-the-first-tennis-player-umpire-carlos-ramos-has-upset-11494215

[Niamh.]

McEnroe is quite entertaining now though in his segment on game, set, mats

:laugh:

Mats Wilander is a good expert for the slam day highlights, discussions before and after the matches, he was full of praise to Naomi Osaka, but he was also quite shocked that Serena had lost the final while she had been playing amazing throughout the US Open now

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final....... :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final....... :laugh:

and the audience boo's were unnecessary when all they needed to do was to cheer for Naomi, those boo's made her probably a bit uncomfortable there, so also great of Serena saving Naomi's celebrations in her speech :clap2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Serena did amazing, she's just had a baby and she's 36 years old, it's actually a bit of a compliment to her if you think about it of just how good she actually is when people are saying stupid stuff like she's finished.......when she got to the final....... :laugh:

she is on the wane and that is the reason for her aggressive tantrum

I expect more will follow as she gets spanked by teenagers more and more?

[Niamh.]

she is on the wane and that is the reason for her aggressive tantrum

I expect more will follow as she gets spanked by teenagers more and more?

Getting to the final = On the wane :laugh: Massive compliment to just how good she actually is like I said

[Crimson Dynamo]

Getting to the final = On the wane :laugh: Massive compliment to just how good she actually is like I said

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

[Niamh.]

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

:thumbs:

[Nicky91]

more like how terrible the womens game is at the moment, sadly

tbh most of the WTA fans i know on Tennisforum aren't complaining about the quality so far, it's good entertainment anyway for us :flutter:

[Crimson Dynamo]

tbh most of the WTA fans i know on Tennisforum aren't complaining about the quality so far, it's good entertainment anyway for us :flutter:

are you still a fan of the lady who had the breast reduction?

[Nicky91]

are you still a fan of the lady who had the breast reduction?

yes, when she wins she's a fab queen of wta, and when she loses she's the queen of entertainment :clap1:


she now has a 2.100 point lead over the no.2 Wozniacki, so she's doing well getting to that 2nd year end #1 in a row :clap2:

[bots]

Serena is passed her prime, doesn't mean she is not still an incredibly good tennis player. I haven't heard of her having meltdowns before and this isn't her first ever defeat. Unless it becomes a pattern, we could at this point assume it was a bad day at the office for whatever reason. We have all had them.

[MTVN]

Serena is passed her prime, doesn't mean she is not still an incredibly good tennis player. I haven't heard of her having meltdowns before and this isn't her first ever defeat. Unless it becomes a pattern, we could at this point assume it was a bad day at the office for whatever reason. We have all had them.

Well she did once tell a (female) line judge that she would 'shove this ****ing ball down your ****ing throat' when she was called for a foot fault

[bots]

Well she did once tell a (female) line judge that she would 'shove this ****ing ball down your ****ing throat' when she was called for a foot fault

bang goes that theory then :laugh: