How can Sally explain not knowing offensive ask H to use thing on head as bandaging ?

[clairefromsomewhereinnort]

It was all based on that.

Are they all really that thick ?

How can Sally explain not knowing before she said it that it was offensive to ask Hasrdeep to use the thing on his head as bandaging ?

How can she not know what the thing on his head was called or at east realise without even needing to know what its called that its something important to them ?

That is what led to as a culmination that asking him and no one else to wear talc powder on his face that that might be to make him more white, so maybe a racist comment.

It was all based on the initial using thing on his head as bandaging which surely worldly wise and well travelled Sally must realise what its called

and even if anyone doesn't know what it s called EVERYONE knows its something important to them so just for that reason saying to use as bandaging is obviously offensive.

BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO HER AS TO MOST PEOPLE IS THAT ITS LES IMPORTANT IF SOMEONE HAS BEEN OFFENDED BY A RACIST COMMENT WHAT MATTERS MOST TO THEM IS THAT THEY WERE CALLED RACIST. ALTHOUGH OF COURSE AS H EXPLAINED TO THEM UMPTEEN TIMES HE NEVER SAID SHE WAS RACIST, BUT IT WAS ALL BASED ON THE USING FOR BANDAGING, WHICH WAS DODGY SHE SAID THAT AND MAKES OUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS OFFENSIVE SO IT S SENSIBLE TO BE SUSPICIOUS ABOUT POSS RACIST COMMENTS FrOM HER AFTERWARD AND HOW WAS HE MEANT TO TRUST HER ANYWAY AFTER SHE TWISTED AND COMPLETELY TURNED ABOUT INTENTION BEHIND SUPPORTIVE BUNION COMMENT TO LIE AND PLOT AGAINST HIM FOR DAYS BEFORE

It never ceases to amaze me, the division between those who have intelligence and the ignorant. The gap is so huge it really seems like we are a different species.

And it is true Dan you do know next to nothing about Racism and are almost completely ignorant about it.

Just like Gabby is

and particularly Ryan who is so ignorant. He jumps to Sally s every word and always goes off snarling like a watchdog for her when he usually doesn't have a f clue what hes on about

It must have been really tiring talking to idiots in there for Hardeep.

And Hardeep never called her or anyone racist in there as he very clearly explained but they were too dumb to understand.

BUT I DON T BELIEVE YOU SALLY THAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS OFFENSIVE TO ASK HIM TO USE THE THING ON HIS HEAD AS BANDAGING BEFORE YOU SAID SO HE WON T CALL YOU RACIST BUT I WILL

BASED ON THAT - YOU ARE A RACIST SALLY

AND ANYONE WHO SUPPORTED HER AFTER HEARING SHE DID THAT I WON T CALL A RACIST TO BE POLITE

BUT I LL CERTAINLY CALL YOU THICK AS F.

And like I predicted Sally s got all of them acting like her sheep.

LIKE I SAID NONE OF THEM ARE WORTH ANYTHING IN THE HOUSE NOW AND I DO HOPE THE SHOW DIES BUT I VE INVESTED SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY IN WATCHING THEIR BILGE EARLIER I THINK I DESERVE TO SEE HOW IT FINISHES BUT WHOEVER WINS WILL BE AN APPALLING EXAMPLE OF HUMANITY TRASH REALLY THAT WINS IT IN MY OPINION.

RYAN WAS WONDERING HOW HE COULD HAVE HANDLED THONGS BETTER TOO AND I DON T MEAN THIS IN A DEROGATORY OR CONDESCENDING WAY JUST AS A SIMPLE REAL ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION - TRY GETTING AN EDUCATION RYAN AND AT LEAST HAVE SOME COURAGE TO THINK FOR YOURSELF AND NOT GO RUNNING OFF LIKE A LAP/VISCOUS LITTLE GUARDDOG FOR SALLY EVERY TIME WITHOUT REALLY THINKING THINGS THROUGH BEFORE YOU CAT ON THE CORRUPT CON JOBS POSS RACISTS BEHALF..

ALSO KIRSTIE WHO BACKS A BIG RACIST DONALD TRUMP ISN'T EXACTLY THE BEST ADVISER OF ANYONE EITHER ON BEHAVIOUR AROUND POTENTIAL RACISM OR NOT.THERE S NO EXCUSE FOR IT, SHE KNOWS,EVERYONE IN AMERICA HAS HEARD SEVERAL RACIST COMMENTS BY HIM,AND KNOWS HE IS BACKED BY THE KU KLUX KLAN AND SEVERAL FASCIST GROUPS, SO ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS HIM WHEN THEY KNOW THAT CANT BE A VERY NICE PERSON AT HEART REALLY, NOW CAN THEY ?

[Amy Jade]

You seem so very angry and aggressive when you post and suddenly put full paragraphs in all caps

[Amy Jade]

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[poppsywoppsy]

Have you read the Forum rules about insulting posters?

I suggest you should.

[tiger_greengrass]

I backed Trump over Hillary, does that make me a bad person?

[hazyjo]

Hardeep, is that you? :hehe:

[tiger_greengrass]

Hardeep, is that you? :hehe:

Woah woah, let's refer to him by his real name Hacreep please. Don't wanna be accused of racism now.

[puzzled]

Sally knew darn well what that turban means to Sikhs. She was insulting and mean at best. IMO, she is not a nice person.

[Beso]

Shes just a racist old bag..nothing more nothing less.

[Patricia4]

Sally knew darn well what that turban means to Sikhs. She was insulting and mean at best. IMO, she is not a nice person.

I agree with you she knew what she was doing.

[Cherie]

Sally knew darn well what that turban means to Sikhs. She was insulting and mean at best. IMO, she is not a nice person.

She knew exactly what she was doing, and she knew they would all back her over Hardeep, then she tried some fake tears when she realised that it might backfire on her

[Aaliyah]

I support Sally, what was she supposed to call the thing om his head if she didn’t kno what it was called?

[kirklancaster]

I am no fan of Hardeep and have criticised him at length on here on other threads, but here HE is the INJURED party and SHE is a fake, hateful, manipulative, overacting, hammy, non-entity.

She wilfully - if slyly - intended to 'push' Hardeep's buttons and cause him to react in a manner that she knew she could then exploit and manipulate to cast him as the perpetrator and herself as the victim.

It was a masterful tactic the success of which absolutely depended upon Hardeep reacting as he did.

Just as Don Quixote sees 'Giants, where there are only windmills' Hardeep, has displayed a habit of often perceiving 'Racism and Colour Prejudice' where there are neither - a complex which is his 'Achilles Heel'.

Sally Morgan RECOGNISED this weakness in Hardeep and exploited it and Hardeep ALLOWED her to do just that by 'biting' and reacting exactly as she calculated that he would.

Her comments about applying talcum powder to Hardeep were NOT 'Borderline' Racist - they were simply Racist.

Hardeep may be well educated and highly intelligent but those qualities are often no match against people such as Sally who are devious and cunning.

If she wins this, then there is no hope for this country, let alone BB.

[chuff me dizzy]

I am no fan of Hardeep and have criticised him at length on here on other threads, but here HE is the INJURED party and SHE is a fake, hateful, manipulative, overacting, hammy, non-entity.

She wilfully - if slyly - intended to 'push' Hardeep's buttons and cause him to react in a manner that she knew she could then exploit and manipulate to cast him as the perpetrator and herself as the victim.

It was a masterful tactic the success of which absolutely depended upon Hardeep reacting as he did.

Just as Don Quixote sees 'Giants, where there are only windmills' Hardeep, has displayed a habit of often perceiving 'Racism and Colour Prejudice' where there are neither - a complex which is his 'Achilles Heel'.

Sally Morgan RECOGNISED this weakness in Hardeep and exploited it and Hardeep ALLOWED her to do just that by 'biting' and reacting exactly as she calculated that he would.

Her comments about applying talcum powder to Hardeep were NOT 'Borderline' Racist - they were simply Racist.

Hardeep may be well educated and highly intelligent but those qualities are often no match against people such as Sally who are devious and cunning.

If she wins this, then there is no hope for this country, let alone BB.

:clap1: Brilliant young man x

[Twosugars]

Don't even tell me she has a chance of winning :eek: poisonous harpie

[Aaliyah]

I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.

Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.

[Robodog]

And breathe....

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched that hl show yet,did she call Hardeep's turban something else a bandage!? OMG :facepalm: . Remember when Roxanne called Hardeep's turban a HAT on launch night :crazy: so ignorant.

[Cherie]

I haven't watched that hl show yet,did she call Hardeep's turban something else a bandage!? OMG :facepalm: . Remember when Roxanne called Hardeep's turban a HAT on launch night :crazy: so ignorant.

She said ‘whats that thing you wear on your head’ we could use that as a bandage

[Cherie]

I am no fan of Hardeep and have criticised him at length on here on other threads, but here HE is the INJURED party and SHE is a fake, hateful, manipulative, overacting, hammy, non-entity.

She wilfully - if slyly - intended to 'push' Hardeep's buttons and cause him to react in a manner that she knew she could then exploit and manipulate to cast him as the perpetrator and herself as the victim.

It was a masterful tactic the success of which absolutely depended upon Hardeep reacting as he did.

Just as Don Quixote sees 'Giants, where there are only windmills' Hardeep, has displayed a habit of often perceiving 'Racism and Colour Prejudice' where there are neither - a complex which is his 'Achilles Heel'.

Sally Morgan RECOGNISED this weakness in Hardeep and exploited it and Hardeep ALLOWED her to do just that by 'biting' and reacting exactly as she calculated that he would.

Her comments about applying talcum powder to Hardeep were NOT 'Borderline' Racist - they were simply Racist.

Hardeep may be well educated and highly intelligent but those qualities are often no match against people such as Sally who are devious and cunning.

If she wins this, then there is no hope for this country, let alone BB.

Agree Kirk

[Crimson Dynamo]

She is a fake nasty racist who is also homophobic

how she is still in that house is a mystery

[GoldHeart]

She said ‘whats that thing you wear on your head’ we could use that as a bandage

She's such a cow , trying to provoke him :shocked:

[Chero]

I don't get it. If you're on the show, and you refer to Indians as ragheads, you get full scale protests in India and a silent eviction. But if you just say, can we use that thing on your head as a bandage, it's okay? Seems like it means the same thing. You think his turban is just some rag. How can you not realize that's pretty racist, after the Shilpa stuff a few years ago?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't get it. If you're on the show, and you refer to Indians as ragheads, you get full scale protests in India and a silent eviction. But if you just say, can we use that thing on your head as a bandage, it's okay? Seems like it means the same thing. You think his turban is just some rag. How can you not realize that's pretty racist, after the Shilpa stuff a few years ago?

:clap1:

[Niamh.]

She asked for it to be played back, I wish they did because it's exactly what she said

[Amy Jade]

She is a fake nasty racist who is also homophobic

how she is still in that house is a mystery

Her fans voted more than Hardeeps.

[Paula D]

I agree that Sally was trying to goad hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head'. She clearly knows what a turban is. Also last night she first said 'you're too brown', then tried to backtrack in front of everyone that she said to everyone they need talc powder, she didn't. She was patronising him and sneakily antagonising Hardeep by saying 'that thing on your head', regardless of whether or not she knew what it was (she more than likely did know it was a turban for **** sake), she will have known it is important to Hardeep and wouldn't want to use it in some game as a bandage.

Disgusting behaviour from Sally and as everyone knows I am NOT a fan of Hardeep.

Have you got 2 personalities?? you just supported her two posts before this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Her fans voted more than Hardeeps.

fans of what

racism

lying?

[Vicky.]

Can you please not make large posts that have so many capitals in..I am sure I have said this before. There is really no need. Odd word is fine, but not whole paragraphs

However I agree that if thats what Sally said its questionable to say the least and yes, she should have more self awareness.

[Gusto Brunt]

You people need to take a chill pill.

Ryan was right.

For being a supposed comedian, Hardeep cannot take any jokes. He is so sensitive it's crazy.

[Amy Jade]

fans of what

racism

lying?

Possibly.

She beat him either way :hee:

[Beso]

She asked for it to be played back, I wish they did because it's exactly what she said

And if she is denying saying it and demanding it be replayed then she must think that it was racist...cauae she wants to clear her name.

[arista]

Hardeep, is that you? :hehe:


He does not have time for
a Forum chat.

[arista]

You people need to take a chill pill.

Ryan was right.

For being a supposed comedian, Hardeep cannot take any jokes. He is so sensitive it's crazy.


Yes he remembers when he was younger,
before he became a Ch5 TV Producer
in the early days of the channel.

[Niamh.]

And if she is denying saying it and demanding it be replayed then she must think that it was racist...cauae she wants to clear her name.Well no, he repeated what she had said and she said "I didn't say that" but she did and replaying it would prove that, whether it was racist or not is obviously up for debate
Eta yeah sorry I agree with your post, I misread it

[chuff me dizzy]

Well no, he repeated what she had said and she said "I didn't say that" but she did and replaying it would prove that, whether it was racist or not is obviously up for debate
Eta yeah sorry I agree with your post, I misread it

She showed herself to be a liar, I so wish they HAD shown it

[letmein]

I backed Trump over Hillary, does that make me a bad person?

Yes.

[jaxie]

I don't like Sally. I think she has come across as particularly nasty in regard Hardeep throught the show and some of her remarks to him and about his body hair have been really unpleasant. And yet the fuss because he mentioned her bunion. A couple of times I've thought she deserved a warning. They should have played back what she said. Hardeep was exactly right in his interpretation.

[Maru]

The way I see it, he made sure the word "brown" would remain in the forefront of HM's minds in-between discussions. Probably because he wanted a confrontation. Whether it ended up about race or not, it didn't matter, as the main reasoning was to simply get under other HM's skins and trigger reactions so that he could use those as camera-time opportunities to throw in his 2 cents... whatever that was depended on the day and the conversation... Yes, it takes two to tango, but he frequently embraced conflict. Probably to keep himself interesting to the public and also insert himself as deep as possible into house events... it's worked, because the cameras have kept on him consistently and he's remain at the forefront of discussion in the house... all this was intentional.

Sally, similarly, feigned ignorance in re-using the brown word with him when everyone there is well-aware it's been used as a loaded word by Hardeep. So for her to pick it up and use it against him was no coincidence. She intentionally meant to push his buttons, and maybe she didn't quite expect the blowback she received (hence her over-reaction), but she was no innocent party in that conversation either. We know they don't get along and she's been known for her own version of backbiting. She's also very good at stealth trolling other HMs while letting her peers do all the actual work of dismantling their position in the house. Which is the more calculating of the two? It's hard to say as they are so similar actually...

What's also true is that Hardeep had been setting the stage for a row on racial stereotypes from the very beginning. His enemy, the sole opponent in an eviction, is braven enough to use loaded words and dialogue that are clearly meant to goad and create certain conflict. Similarly, like their other confrontations of recent with Hardeep, they were not really reacting to the race issue or the focus of the debate itself, but rather, they were reacting to his particular penchant for racially-charged debate and for rushing away after being engaged in confrontation.

We could say the house fell for two different traps, but as I saw it, they cancelled each other given they both have a penchant to troll and insert backbiting commentary at will... Hardeep should be panned for his cashing in on the race debate and trivializing it, and Sally for her stealthy handling of house politics when it's clear she's not an innocent player either.

I actually think as far as strategy and personality goes, they are both very very similar. Which would explain why both dislike each other so much... :laugh:... They get on each other's nerves because both know well the game the kind of game they are both playing, so they see a little bit of themselves in the other and so they get under each other's skins easier than the rest.

For example, during Hardeep's discussion with Natalie when she criticized him on his insensitive usage of racial jocularity, he took the "How dare you challenge me" route that Sally took during this debate. Suggesting because he was a comedian and freedom of speech, he had meant no harm and thus freedom of speech, he was allowed to speak as he pleased...

I can't really comment on the turban party, because I know next to knowing about Sikh religion. For some reason, I had thought maybe it was in a similar category to Buddhism and I wouldn't consider them (Buddhist) to be really strict on dress, much less a great deal of other things...

[Clootie Dumpling]

Seeing that Sikhs have lived in the UK for the past 100+ years, and it's common knowledge that their male headgear is called a turban, it beggars belief that Sally wasn't aware of that, unless she's been living under a stone since birth (probably).

That pretence alone is enough proof for me that she's a rascist bigot, who jumped at the opportunity to wind up an already beleaguered Hardeep.

[Mitchell]

Seeing that Sikhs have lived in the UK for the past 100+ years, and it's common knowledge that their male headgear is called a turban, it beggars belief that Sally wasn't aware of that, unless she's been living under a stone since birth (probably).

That pretence alone is enough proof for me that she's a rascist bigot, who jumped at the opportunity to wind up an already beleaguered Hardeep.

Regardless of whether she knew the name for it or not, suggesting to use his religious item as bandaging for a burns victim doesn’t sit well with me

[Clootie Dumpling]

Regardless of whether she knew the name for it or not, suggesting to use his religious item as bandaging for a burns victim doesn’t sit well with me

That's what I was trying to get across, but you said it better than me :hee:

[jaxie]

I don't particularly like religion but I live in the UK and know on sight Hardeep is a Sikh because he was wearing a turbon when he entered the house. I also know hes from Scotland because he wears a kilt and that Sikhs don't cut their hair and this, and the turbon have religious significance. So the elephant in the room really is why doesn't Sally know all this? She grew up in the same country as me. I think her dislike made her taunt him over things she knew perfectly well we're significant to him.

[Clootie Dumpling]

Point of interest - I just found out that Scottish Sikhs have their own tartan, but Hardeep wasn't wearing it. I liked his black kilt and was pleased he wore the right jacket.

[user104658]

Can you please not make large posts that have so many capitals in..I am sure I have said this before. There is really no need. Odd word is fine, but not whole paragraphs


Handy modding tool Vickles;

https://www.textfixer.com/tools/capitalize-sentences.php

Just click on "capitalise sentences" and check the "Correct Accidental Caps Lock" box, paste in the post and it'll fix it all up.

:hee: