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Niamh.
09-10-2018, 02:45 PM
:umm2:

The devil is alive and well and working overtime to undermine the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis has said.

The pope is convinced that Satan is to blame for the sexual abuse crisis and deep divisions racking the Church.

The pope asked Catholics around the world to recite a special prayer every day in October to try to the devil back.
“(The Church must be) saved from the attacks of the malign one, the great accuser and at the same time be made ever more aware of its guilt, its mistakes, and abuses committed in the present and the past,” Post Francis said.

Since he was elected in 2013, Francis has made clear that he believes the devil to be real. In a document in April on holiness in the modern world, Francis mentioned the devil more than a dozen times.

We should not think of the devil as a myth, a representation, a symbol, a figure of speech or an idea. This mistake would lead us to let down our guard, to grow careless and end up more vulnerable.

The Church has recently been hit by one sexual abuse scandal after another, from Germany, to the United States, to Chile. At the same time, a deepening polarization between conservatives and liberals in the Church has played out on social media.

Francis’ use of the term “the great accuser” to describe Satan hit a raw nerve with one of the pope’s harshest conservative critics, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, the Vatican’s former ambassador to Washington.

In an 11-page statement published on Aug. 26, Viganò launched an unprecedented broadside by a Church insider against the pope and a long list of Vatican and U.S. Church officials.

He accused Francis of knowing about sexual misconduct by a former U.S. cardinal with male adult seminarians but not doing anything about it.

Viganò, concluding that his former boss had singled him out as the devil in disguise, complained in his next statement that Francis “compared me to the great accuser, Satan, who sows scandal and division in the Church, though without ever uttering my name”.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/world/pope-blames-devil-for-church-divisions-and-scandals-874438.html

arista
09-10-2018, 02:49 PM
The Devil
must live in Italy , then.

reece(:
09-10-2018, 02:55 PM
The new season of AHS really has the world shook.

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 02:56 PM
The new season of AHS really has the world shook.

:laugh:

Ramsay
09-10-2018, 03:23 PM
''Pope Francis is different! he's wants change! he's a good one!''

Everyone high up in that cult is the same. every single one.

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 03:24 PM
''Pope Francis is different! he's wants change! he's a good one!''

Everyone high up in that cult is the same. every single one.

Reading that article was like watching an episode of Father Ted

Marsh.
09-10-2018, 03:33 PM
Christians believe the devil is the root of all evil shocker!

Do we have a quote from Jesus himself, this is such BIG news???

:hehe:

bots
09-10-2018, 03:33 PM
in which case all the guilty priests should be burned at the stake :idc:

Parmy
09-10-2018, 03:33 PM
I blame him... The pope, not the devil,

Marsh.
09-10-2018, 03:34 PM
in which case all the guilty priests should be burned at the stake :idc:

That's witches silly.

arista
09-10-2018, 03:40 PM
in which case all the guilty priests should be burned at the stake :idc:


Yes Live in Italy

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 03:41 PM
Christians believe the devil is the root of all evil shocker!

Do we have a quote from Jesus himself, this is such BIG news???

:hehe:

Jesus later told the Examiner "Pope Francis needs to start taking responsibility for his staff and not try to pass the buck, the Devil was busy convincing people to vote for Trump while alot of these scandals occurred anyway"

Livia
09-10-2018, 08:00 PM
Nice to see the Vatican taking responsibility.

Oh no, wait...

montblanc
09-10-2018, 08:01 PM
of course :rolleyes:

Tom4784
09-10-2018, 09:27 PM
Ms Ava Asmodeus rejects this slander.

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 09:29 PM
Ms Ava Asmodeus rejects this slander.[emoji23]

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:38 PM
There is a reason why sex scandals are rampant in the Catholic Church and not the Christian church. Catholics don't pray to god. They worship Mary more than Jesus. They do their own thing

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:39 PM
Christians believe the devil is the root of all evil shocker!

Do we have a quote from Jesus himself, this is such BIG news???

:hehe:

He is, bruv. He rules you oh ye of little faith.

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 09:40 PM
There is a reason why sex scandals are rampant in the Catholic Church and not the Christian church. Catholics don't pray to god. They worship Mary more than Jesus. They do their own thingAlways the woman's fault :oh:

LaLaLand
09-10-2018, 09:41 PM
K hun!! What a ridiculous statement.

Marsh.
09-10-2018, 09:42 PM
He is, bruv. He rules you oh ye of little faith.

I feel like you just called me Satan or something.

Enjoy your ban. :hee:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:42 PM
Always the woman's fault :oh:

I'm just saying-Catholics are blasphemous. Why do you think the majority of atheists claim they were Catholics? They weren't taught propers, bruv.

Marsh.
09-10-2018, 09:42 PM
K hun!! What a ridiculous statement.

Not really. Christians believe the devil is the one who brings evil into the world.

This is not news. It doesn't change free will, however, as he also says...

This mistake would lead us to let down our guard, to grow careless and end up more vulnerable.

When they sin, they're allowing themselves to be corrupted/tempted and must try to fight it.

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:45 PM
I feel like you just called me Satan or something.

Enjoy your ban. :hee:

No the earth is Satan's kingdom. All we complain and moan about is of the devil. You hate god is of the devil. Heck even complaining is from the devil because you could be complaining about the very same thing that could elevate you but you're too busy complaining :(

Marsh.
09-10-2018, 09:46 PM
You hate god is of the devil.

If this is about Anna, she insulted me first. :nono:

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 09:47 PM
I'm just saying-Catholics are blasphemous. Why do you think the majority of atheists claim they were Catholics? They weren't taught propers, bruv.I think for myself, I don't need to be told what to believe

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:47 PM
If this is about Anna, she insulted me first. :nono:

:hee:

Ithinkiloveyoutoo
09-10-2018, 09:48 PM
I think for myself, I don't need to be told what to believe

You think you're thinking for yourself...

Niamh.
09-10-2018, 09:48 PM
You think you're thinking for yourself...Riddle me this

hijaxers
09-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Jesus later told the Examiner "Pope Francis needs to start taking responsibility for his staff and not try to pass the buck, the Devil was busy convincing people to vote for Trump while alot of these scandals occurred anyway"

Yes pope stop hiding them in your popedom ! til they die avoiding prosecution.

LaLaLand
09-10-2018, 10:36 PM
Religion is honestly one of the worst things in the world. SO dangerous and does more harm than good if we're being honest.

It can be used to justify PURE EVIL.

Marsh.
10-10-2018, 01:02 AM
Erm, he's not "justifying" it. That would mean he was suggesting what's gone on as reasonable. He's not.

Niamh.
10-10-2018, 08:47 AM
Erm, he's not "justifying" it. That would mean he was suggesting what's gone on as reasonable. He's not.

The point is, he's trying to dodge responsibility by blaming the devil instead of blaming the Church as an institution for how they handled all these scandals, moving those Priests around dioceses leaving them free to re-offend with a brand new set of unsuspecting and innocent children. By all means blame the devil for these evil men who hurt all those children but accept that how it was all handled was just as bad.

Livia
10-10-2018, 08:54 AM
I overslept this morning and missed quite an important call.

The Devil's fault.

Niamh.
10-10-2018, 08:58 AM
I overslept this morning and missed quite an important call.

The Devil's fault.

:laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
10-10-2018, 03:13 PM
This disgusting cult makes me sick to my stomach