manipulative

[Psylocke]

im laughing how she is manipulating zak so easily.

the T-shirt thing shows that she is certainly playing the game.

[~Kizwiz~]

I wondered that too..... when Ziggy asked her where her shorts where.

[RAS]

lol, im not to sure if asking to borrow a t-shirt = Playing the game & being manipulative.

[Chanelle_is_sexy]

yeh but i like the way she looked in the t-shirt she looked god damn sexy

[Chanelle_is_sexy]

was the t-shirt the only thing she was waering if so she should keep the t-shirt on lol

[~Kizwiz~]

But she asked for some shorts from him too when she had just taken some off :conf:

[Psylocke]

She was basically doing it to show off to himand give him vibes,it was no better than charleys topless night.there all crazy ladiesin there lol.But Charley and Chanelle are gonna up the bitch/predator behaviour.

[GiRTh]

Aye. She's a tart. Don't get me wrong, I like her but she's virtually waving a flag at him saying 'I fancy you'.

[Chanelle_is_sexy]

so wot she can as she as got the perfect figure and chanelle is not a bitch if she is she is my bitch lol

[RAS]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Aye. She's a tart. Don't get me wrong, I like her but she's virtually waving a flag at him saying 'I fancy you'.

On the same night that Ziggy arrived, Emily was strutting around in the skimpiest pants she could find, and Charley slept with him topless.

If Chanelle was waving a flag saying "I fancy you" she wasn't the only one.

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by RAS
Originally posted by GiRTh
Aye. She's a tart. Don't get me wrong, I like her but she's virtually waving a flag at him saying 'I fancy you'.

On the same night that Ziggy arrived, Emily was strutting around in the skimpiest pants she could find, and Charley slept with him topless.

If Chanelle was waving a flag saying "I fancy you" she wasn't the only one.

Not the best people too be compared with tho lol

[Chanelle_is_sexy]

i agree

[Chrizzle]

My god, asking to borrow a t-shirt means your manipulative pmsl??

I asked my mum to pass me the butter, now im a backstabber:laugh:

[Dan_]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
My god, asking to borrow a t-shirt means your manipulative pmsl??

I asked my mum to pass me the butter, now Im a backstabber:laugh:

I think he meant about just going around in the t-shirt and little else in front of him.

[Chanelle_is_sexy]

i cant wait to c wot she wears on her evition day which will be da final day lol if it is just i shirt i will be tuned in

[Psylocke]

Originally posted by Dan_
Originally posted by Chrizzle
My god, asking to borrow a t-shirt means your manipulative pmsl??

I asked my mum to pass me the butter, now Im a backstabber:laugh:

I think he meant about just going around in the t-shirt and little else in front of him.

Yep.i was talkin about flashing her arse at him

[MummyJens01]

She's practically wrote I FANCY YOU on her forehead.

Sad Cow Lol

[Emilee]

Well there was actually no need to get changed into ziggys t shirt she could have kept in her clothes until her case was returned.

[RAS]

Originally posted by MummyJens01
She's practically wrote I FANCY YOU on her forehead.

Sad Cow Lol

So asking to borrow a t-shirt is the same as writing "I FANCY YOU" on her forehead?

I would love to know how you used your head to come to that conclusion....

[the_chosen_one]

Chanelle let herself down tonight, on the highlight show.

She's got herself into a good position by claiming Ziggy as her 'partner' and spending alot of time with him, acting like a couple, but today, on the highlight show, she tried too hard to dominate things and become the controlling member of the house, and it ended in her crying.

She spoke to Big Brother about Carole coughing on the toilet paper, and then shortly after, in the meeting, she tried to gain control and bring Carole back in to mention the paper, but Carole refused. What was Chanelle planning on saying? Don't cough on the toilet paper? I think Carole would have told her to stop being silly, it seemed like nothing more than an opportunity to complain at someone.

Later, during the task, she did OK, and wasn't too controlling, but later on, when it came to the 'hair-straightening incident', she again made a huge issue out of something which was quite trivial, and the manipulative thing about it was that she did it because she wanted to try her hand at putting Emily in her place (she basically admitted that, in the diary room, towards the end).

Chanelle's obviously got very comfortable already, but I think she tried to pick off a bit more than she could chew, yesterday.

[the_chosen_one]

Why does she keep complaining to the twins that they're hard done to for being the youngest? What evidence is this based on?

Trying to get audience sympathy, eh Chanelle?

[Dan_]

If she spoke up instead of complaining to other people she might get a bit more involved.

[the_chosen_one]

She went and cuddled up to Gerry aswell after he argued with Charley. I've never seen her do that with most of the others when they're sulking.

Keeping good relations with Charley's enemies, eh Chanelle?

It'll be interesting to see what Gerry does next time Charley argues with Chanelle.

[xxxxxsammiexxxxx]

she fancies him shes going to be like that, don't mean shes manipulating him, theres a difference, they can't have sex in the house so she is playing games with him

[xxxxxsammiexxxxx]

well they are playing games with each other, she knows itl turn ziggy on its jus some harmless flirting

[the_chosen_one]

Three's a Crowd
Day 18, 18:19

And that's just how they like it...

Cosied up in the bathroom this evening, Ziggy, Chanelle and Gerry set about that most crucial of housemate business - discussing the other housemates. As new lads Brian, Billi and Liam entertained most of the girls in the bedroom, Gerry joined Chiggy for an afternoon chinwag.

"I like Billi," said Chanelle.

"Yes it's nice to know there is a man here who is straight and knows about hair straighteners," nodded Gerry, spotting Billi's obvious USP.

"I don't think Liam likes me at all," said Chanelle.

"Charley has not left his side all day," added Gerry. "Everybody has had too much of her. She finds the need to make new alliances. But wait until she snaps and then they will see the source of the arguments and she will be good old Charley again.

And it wasn't just Charley who was up for inspection.

"It was Seány's week last week," said Ziggy. "But he's not really centre of attention anymore."

"Seány loves being the joker," added Gerry.

"It's weird today," said Chanelle. "It's like one step forward one step back. We've all got to know each other and now, because there's so many new people, it feels like day one again. It's like starting from scratch."

Oh come chaps, make the effort...

Looks like it's time to calculate some new plans Chanelle.

[the_chosen_one]

Nominations performance.

The housemates nominated today and I noticed two strange things about Chanelle's behaviour. First of all, when she got called to the diary room she exclaimed to everyone in the bedroom "I'm not ready! I thought Charley was before me!", then walked out of the bedroom and shouted across the house the same thing, "I thought Charley was before me!". I can't understand why one of the most intelligent people in the house can't work out that N comes before R in the alphabet. In my opinion, Chanelle did this to plant Charley's name in the housemates minds in relation to the nomination process.

Next, in the diary room, Chanelle couldn't stop saying Zach, Ziggy or Zig, when she was trying to say the names of her nomination picks. If Chanelle wanted to nominate Ziggy why didn't she just nominate him? It was clearly who she wanted to nominate, judging by the fact she kept saying his name, and if the alternative explanation is that she was putting on a performance for the cameras, what purpose does it serve for the audience to know she wants to nominate Ziggy? She was definitely being false, it's just hard to figure out what she really meant, and whether she was making these slips of the tongue on purpose.

It's my opinion she was manipulating the audience by attempting to convey the message that she wants rid of Ziggy aslong as the audience do it for her, and she doesn't have to come clean and admit it.

[Taijitu]

1. ""I thought Charley was before me!". I can't understand why one of the most intelligent people in the house can't work out that N comes before R in the alphabet. In my opinion, Chanelle did this to plant Charley's name in the housemates minds in relation to the nomination process."

Because everyone makes mistakes. Also some of the most intelligent people Ive ever met seem completly dumb sometimes (bit like the image of the professor with no practical skills).



2."Next, in the diary room, Chanelle couldn't stop saying Zach, Ziggy or Zig, when she was trying to say the names of her nomination picks."

Could be she was thinking of him because she was wondering who he would nominate, not saying your wrong, but always another alternative.



3."It's my opinion she was manipulating the audience by attempting to convey the message that she wants rid of Ziggy aslong as the audience do it for her, and she doesn't have to come clean and admit it."

Although I hate IQ tests (the first ones pronounced imigrants to the USA as having low IQ not taking into the fact most didnt understand the english the tests were writen in) she does seem like a bright lass, just cant make up my mind if she is acting slyly or being genuine, so far Im going for genuine. You could have a good point though if she has had enough of him this would be a good (as well as evil) way to go about it....maybe she is a Darren Brown fan.

[the_chosen_one]

So Chanelle spends the week having flirting sessions with Billi and giving Ziggy the cold shoulder, Ziggy gets all confused and dumps her, so she goes back with tears in her eyes like she can't live without him.

Are we supposed to feel sympathy now? Is that the idea?:rolleyes:

:sleep:

[CassetteFinger]

Post removed by Sunny_01 - personal insults are not allowed on this forum you have previously been asked by admin not to do this, one more incident and a warning will be issued .

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
So Chanelle spends the week having flirting sessions with Billi and giving Ziggy the cold shoulder, Ziggy gets all confused and dumps her, so she goes back with tears in her eyes like she can't live without him.

Are we supposed to feel sympathy now? Is that the idea?:rolleyes:

:sleep:

Ziggy should of stood his ground with her and has now fallen into her trap once again sadly. Chanelle is very clever and manipulative.

[CassetteFinger]

I think Ziggy is more manipulative than chanelle hes quiet and sneaky.

[GlitterEyes]

In what ways has he been sneaky? Any examples?

[GiRTh]

I think Ziggy is quite sneaky. He scored very high on the Machiavellian test. I think he went into BB knowing that if he had a relationship it would mean he had more chance of winning.

[CassetteFinger]

Originally posted by GiRTh
I think Ziggy is quite sneaky. He scored very high on the Machiavellian test.

Thats what i was trying to say but i dident know how to spell machiavellian.

[GlitterEyes]

A test doesn't really prove much though thats just another way of bb using their editing to change the publics minds. I think anyone going into the house knows a "couple" does well but Fame and fortune was more of a chanelle thing than Ziggy I feel. Based on the facts and evidence we have actually seen I don't think anything he has done is that manipulative...the only thing you could knock him for is maybe playing the nice guy routine.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
In what ways has he been sneaky? Any examples?

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=62161

There's an example in that thread. Also, you can tell Ziggy lies alot from the his mannerisms which go with his words ('self comforting' gestures which in many cases reveal the body language of a liar).

He often uses the phrases "to be honest with you", "I'll tell you the truth" and "honestly", which some consider the habits of a liar (though I'm not sure about that one).

[CassetteFinger]

hello when he was like im falling for you he kept like rubing his hair and i think both want the fame thing as ziggy was in the limelight at one point he wants all that back.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
A test doesn't really prove much though thats just another way of bb using their editing to change the publics minds. I think anyone going into the house knows a "couple" does well but Fame and fortune was more of a chanelle thing than Ziggy I feel. Based on the facts and evidence we have actually seen I don't think anything he has done is that manipulative...the only thing you could knock him for is maybe playing the nice guy routine. He looks shifty, the way he speaks out of the side of his mouth, his many contradictions. It's no one thing its an accumulation. I think Chanelle is just as manipulative but he's much more obvious.

[GlitterEyes]

I think thats over analyizing the guy the davina show was a huge stitch up for him I felt. Now a huge shock as bb have done it before but some peoples opinions seem to have come from what they showed on Davinas show. Like someone else said I don't see that being such an issue he thinks before he speaks...alot of other housemates should take a leaf out of his book. If thinking before he speaks is his only sin then he isn't that bad. I haven't really noticed his phrasing that much but shall look out for it now.

[CassetteFinger]

well they have experts on davinas show which know what signs to look for and 8 seconds to think of a good thing to say about chanelle a girl he supposely likes and even though he was thinking he still got his words mixed up.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by rice_square
hello when he was like Im falling for you he kept like rubing his hair and i think both want the fame thing as ziggy was in the limelight at one point he wants all that back.


Whats wrong with wanting it back? He will have a starting station for it if he wants to pick up the singing routine again which is more than wannabe WAG Chanelle has done. She just seems to want to spend someone elses money lol.

[GiRTh]

Do you like him GE?

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by rice_square
well they have experts on davinas show which know what signs to look for and 8 seconds to think of a good thing to say about chanelle a girl he supposely likes and even though he was thinking he still got his words mixed up.

Putting him in that position as a male I think he would of wanted to appear "cool" and not all loved all. No man would want to get all soppy there and then or appear to keen.

[GlitterEyes]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Do you like him GE?

I think he is a nice enough guy, Don't fancy him though. I just don't understand why people seem to hate him so much yet he hasn't really done anything wrong. Or atleast I don't think so apart from getting back with Chanelle. I like all the people on my sig, hope Carole stays tonight. Don't have no "winner" in my mind yet though.:thumbs:

[GiRTh]

He could have answered that alot better without sounding soppy. There's no doubt about that.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think thats over analyizing the guy the davina show was a huge stitch up for him I felt.

I don't think it was a stitch up at all. They didn't even call him a liar, they were very kind to him considering the footage they were using was of a man who clearly wasn't telling the truth.

I think the Chanelle v Ziggy head to head is an interesting predicament, but it's clear to me that it's two people playing games with each other. I have no doubts.

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
I think he would of wanted to appear "cool" and not all loved all.

I agree. That's being fake, in my opinion. He tries to act how he thinks the audience will like him.

....and one of the reasons Chanelle has found it so easy to manipulate him is because he's trying to charm her and the audience, which set him up for the early fall. With a week or so of calculations, I think there's a chance Ziggy could regroup and score points back over his rival.

[GlitterEyes]

I think he genuinely liked Chanelle but didn't want to admit that because he had no certainty of how she felt at that point therefore didn't want to look stupid. I dont see any harm in that he is just protecting himself really. Playing it cool and not to obvious until he knew more I think was the right thing to do. I also agree it is an interesting predictament but I am not to sure yet if Ziggy is gameplaying or just making the most of his situation like anyone would do. At the moment I am waiting for him to "slip up" because at the moment I think he is a decent guy and its Chanelle who is doing all the manipulation & gameplay.

[GlitterEyes]

This is getting to be a decent debate for once if you have nothing decent to add please don't ruin it for others.


Edit: Just want to say a message was deleted in between my posts so this isn't directed at the debaters:thumbs:

[CassetteFinger]

Post deleted by Sunny_01

[GlitterEyes]

Bar Charley I think the couple are one of the most talked about things in the house. Some people are sick of it but we would be back focusing on Charley otherwise. It might not be everybodies cup of tea but they do raise some decent debates even if people don't wish to hear it.

[CassetteFinger]

:shocked:

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Bar Charley I think the couple are one of the most talked about things in the house. Some people are sick of it but we would be back focusing on Charley otherwise. It might not be everybodies cup of tea but they do raise some decent debates even if people don't wish to hear it.

Agreed. I don't like the Beckhams for the fact they're incredibly false (though I know you disagree about Ziggy GlitterEyes :wink:), but observing their gameplaying is actually very interesting, even if the devoted Chanelle fans don't like to hear about it. They know they don't have to read it.

[GlitterEyes]

I think its hard for fans of them to hear because there may be elements of the truth in things which people have picked up on. I think debating wise they are a main area to talk about because people seem very 50/50 with whos side they are on...if not against them both. Hardly anyone likes them both I feel its more one way or the other.

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Originally posted by rice_square
well they have experts on davinas show which know what signs to look for and 8 seconds to think of a good thing to say about chanelle a girl he supposely likes and even though he was thinking he still got his words mixed up.

Putting him in that position as a male I think he would of wanted to appear "cool" and not all loved all. No man would want to get all soppy there and then or appear to keen.

Wow wish I had thought of that. Not sure if you are a little biased :wink: but I reckon your spot on.:thumbs:

[Taijitu]

Originally posted by Taijitu
Originally posted by GlitterEyes
Originally posted by rice_square
well they have experts on davinas show which know what signs to look for and 8 seconds to think of a good thing to say about chanelle a girl he supposely likes and even though he was thinking he still got his words mixed up.

Putting him in that position as a male I think he would of wanted to appear "cool" and not all loved all. No man would want to get all soppy there and then or appear to keen.

Wow wish I had thought of that. Not sure if you are a little biased :wink: but I reckon your spot on.:thumbs:

Then I am probably also biased as I also like all the people on you sig the most :laugh:

[GlitterEyes]

Good choices lol:bigsmile:

[the_chosen_one]

Ziggy licks chanelle's toast and she falls out with him.

The confusing thing here is that only moments earlier Chanelle had been in the toilet kissing Ziggy, so to be offended by his saliva in her mouth just doesnt make sense. And she's clearly not bothered about hygiene because she squeezed a spot in the mirror then handled her toast all in one movement. She obviously has an ulterior motive which would explain her confusing behaviour.

We can only speculate on what Chanelle's ulterior motive is, but my guess is that it involves a fall-out with Ziggy or create some distance between them whilst manipulating situations to appear like he's to blame.

I think Chanelle's gameplan is quite obvious and I'm tempted to predict it already, how she's going to play until the final week. It's currently at the stage of 'get away from Ziggy and get as friendly as possible with Billi, but keep Ziggy hanging on like he's in control, and don't let the audience realise the plan'.

I reckon a triumphant reunion with Ziggy in the final few weeks would be great for the ratings and Chanelle will know that too, but the hard part is keeping Ziggy interested and confident so that he doesnt walk, and not being sussed by the audience that it's her 'pulling the strings'.

I'm sure Big Brother will help Chanelle seperate from the attentions of Billi by introducing a large breasted blonde glamour model (Billi's favourite) at some point, that way Chanelle will look like the victim, when Billi goes chasing after her, and the viewers will be drooling to see the Beckhams reunion and the eviction of the 'evil' Billi.

You couldn't write this stuff!

As I said, we can only speculate at the moment.:wink:

[RAS]

Yup, Chanelle doesn't want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked....what a manipulative b*tch.

[spitfire]

Originally posted by RAS
Yup, Chanelle doesn't want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked....what a manipulative b*tch. Shock,horror,she is so two faced!:wink:

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by RAS
Yup, Chanelle doesn't want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked....what a manipulative b*tch.

First of all lets get the whole situation straight. She didnt just not 'want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked', she actually fell out with her boyfriend over it and went into the bedroom and led next to her boyfriends rival (Billi) to explain how awful the situation was. So when you dont sugar coat it for her, yes, it's quite reasonably interpreted as manipulative.

Her skills of manipulation are not in question, anyway.

The toast incident doesnt prove she's manipulative, but now we know she is (read the whole thread) her illogical behaviour can now be interpreted as manipulative because this is what she is now known for. It's her chief personality trait and most likely the motive for the things she does.

Of course, you are still entitled to disagree.:thumbs:

[CassetteFinger]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one

First of all lets get the whole situation straight. She didnt just not 'want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked', she actually fell out with her boyfriend over it and went into the bedroom and led next to her boyfriends rival (Billi) to explain how awful the situation was.

Sorry, did you watch it properly? She went and layed on the bed next to Laura and Billi came and sat next to Chanelle Admin: insult deleted.

Admin: warning given... 24 hour ban from posting. Personal insults are against the rules of the forum and you have been to told about this before

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by rice_square
Originally posted by the_chosen_one

First of all lets get the whole situation straight. She didnt just not 'want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked', she actually fell out with her boyfriend over it and went into the bedroom and led next to her boyfriends rival (Billi) to explain how awful the situation was.

sorry did you watch it properly she went and layed on the bed next to laura and billi came and sat next to chanelle

Chanelle led down about 2 or 3 feet away from Billi. Yes he moved, but he didn't need to.

[CassetteFinger]

ok then :rolleyes:

[the_chosen_one]

OK then (sarcastic eyeroll)? Is that your argument? Are you not even going to attempt to defend her properly?

I know she has very little real defence for her actions, but she's clever enough to leave more room for debate than some of her fans realise. Come on, you can stay in this argument for a couple of posts if you try a bit.

[CassetteFinger]

i dont understand though what she has meant to have done just cause she went of for someone licking her food come on now your just being stupid. :rolleyes:

[the_chosen_one]

How am I being stupid? I've already given a solid explanation for my opinion. (you should try it:thumbs:)

Originally posted by rice_square
i dont understand though what she has meant to have done just cause she went of for someone licking her food

Read my post which mentions her going and lying in the same area as Billi and complaining about the incident, to him. (not to mention it being childish and irrational behaviour to react like she did)

[CassetteFinger]

how is she manipulative i read your post and still dont get it i find ziggy more manipulative he gets her when he wants her brings her in the toilet and snogs the face of her making sure he is in the camera and when they finish he always looks into the camera he breaks up with her and remebers it wont look good on him so 3 hours later hes back with her you see.

[spitfire]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by rice_square
Originally posted by the_chosen_one

First of all lets get the whole situation straight. She didnt just not 'want to eat a piece of toast that has been licked', she actually fell out with her boyfriend over it and went into the bedroom and led next to her boyfriends rival (Billi) to explain how awful the situation was.

sorry did you watch it properly she went and layed on the bed next to laura and billi came and sat next to chanelle

Chanelle led down about 2 or 3 feet away from Billi. Yes he moved, but he didn't need to. She led in a different bed.Billi swapped beds to ask her whats wrong.Its no big deal,she had a hufty cos her BF licked her toast.And now there tucked up together like two peas in a pod.:kiss:

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by spitfire
she had a hufty cos her BF licked her toast

Her boyfriend only pretended to lick her toast, he assured her he was only joking when he saw that she was getting ‘upset’, but Chanelle preferred to carry on with her tantrum anyway and go and talk to Billi about it, rather than trust her boyfriend’s word.

Originally posted by spitfire
She led in a different bed.Billi swapped beds to ask her whats wrong.

She had an entire house and garden’s worth of space where she could go to calm down from her ‘tantrum’. I consider it more than mere coincidence that she chose to go and lie 3 feet away from Billi.

It doesn't hurt to acknowledge basic details.:wink:

[CassetteFinger]

hello she went to the place where most people were that was in the bedroom come on now and she went in and layed on a diffrent bed to billi where everyone was on so he is the one that is **** stirring.

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by rice_square
how is she manipulative i read your post and still dont get it i find ziggy more manipulative he gets her when he wants her brings her in the toilet and snogs the face of her making sure he is in the camera and when they finish he always looks into the camera he breaks up with her and remebers it wont look good on him so 3 hours later hes back with her you see.

Originally posted by rice_square
hello she went to the place where most people were that was in the bedroom come on now and she went in and layed on a diffrent bed to billi where everyone was on so he is the one that is **** stirring.

Blame Ziggy, blame Billi, just aslong as it takes the attention away from Chanelle's actions, right.

They're all playing their part, no one's disputing that, but there is one person pulling all the strings, and this is the thread where the examples can be found.

[CassetteFinger]

yeah that one person is ziggy for sure come on now really.

[the_chosen_one]

Ziggy is bad for it, I won't disagree with you. Go and look in his forum, I even started a 'manipulative' thread, so you can post all your examples there (I havnt noticed any yet:thumbs:).

[rororo06]

Originally posted by Chanelle_is_sexy
yeh but i like the way she looked in the t-shirt she looked god damn sexy

I think you meen god dawn ugly:joker:

[GlitterEyes]

Chanelle is desperate for any kind of attention and I can't see why she made such a big deal about the toast because she has swopped fluids with him on several occasions during the day. Ziggy was adament that he didn't touch it yet she didn't want to believe that. It was his toast in the first place anyway or atleast his bread! Chanelle likes playing the innocent victim too much and cracks are beginning to form in her actions like crying yet producing no tears at all. The fact of it all i find strange is that she wouldn't touch the toast that Ziggy had licked which isn't much of a thing as she is constantly kissing him and yet when she popped Billi's spot Ziggy had logical reasoning for disliking that.

It all comes down to the fact she could of laughed it off and ate the toast or cause a big scene which would obviously of got her more camera time. She is just showing how childish she is and how Ziggy is far more mature than her. The fact she felt the need of telling everyone too was making it out to be something more than it was.Ziggy will now feel like he can't have a joke and laugh around Chanelle because she always dramatises things. The only thing Ziggy has done wrong was falling for her trap and taking her back.

[Bells]

To be fair though, I'd kiss someone but I'd rather they didn't lick my food - I wouldn't eat it anyway. :bored:

And I don't think she's manipulative in terms of Billi... that argument seems to have gone out the window a little, because she put him up for nomination! All I've seen is that she was nice to him to begin with and they seemed to get on, but then she noticed that he's weird and creepy and kept watching her and Ziggy. Therefore, she put him up for eviction so that if he's evicted, her and Ziggy can continue their relationship and not feel uneasy all the time. I don't see much manipulation in that respect.

[GlitterEyes]

She seemed to have no issue with popping her spot and then touching her toast so I don't see why she had such an issue with him licking it even though he was adamant he didn't yet she wouldn't believe him. I find her quite hypocritical because she talks about various others hygenine when she herself needs to look at her own. Afterwards aswell it looked like Ziggy came and gave her more toast aswell but she still acted like a spoilt child. It may have been the same toast but I think not because he brought it in on a plate. She is happy to share the same spoon which the twins have licked aswell as her. I don't see how she can moan about hygene one minute then pick her own and other peoples spots itsjust gross.

[the_chosen_one]

Chanelle's speech.

Some 5 star manipulation from Chanelle today starting during the nomination announcement. As the housemates listened to Big Brother announce the nominees, Chanelle sat cuddled up to Ziggy staring holes through Charley awaiting clarification that Charley would be up for eviction. On hearing the news Charley wouldnt be up, Chanelle scraped her hands down her face and buried her head into Ziggy's shoulder, putting on an elaborate performance that this outcome was extremely distressing to her.

Following the announcement, Chanelle started arguing with Charley which was a cue for Ziggy to take it upon himself to hurl abuse at Charley aswell, and at no point did Chanelle ask Ziggy to go away and let her handle the argument on her own. The two of them were perfectly comfortable double teaming Charley to hurl abuse at her.

Later that day, Carole, Sam, Amanda, Liam and possibly others were sat on the sofa's in the lounge and Chanelle decided to give a speech about Charley. It was a speech which started with her explaining how when she has a problem with someone she sorts it out face to face, which we all know is complete lie (but seeing as the housemates were mad at Charley, it was obviously a time when she might get away with throwing in a lie or two to help her case), the purpose of the speech was to help the people listening realise what a bad person she thinks Charley is and how she's bad for the house. It seemed like she was building up to ordering her followers to nominate Charley for eviction, but of course that isn't allowed, so when she came to her conclusion she just said....

"So....I just hope she realises what she's doing..."

Which of course made absolutely no sense as a conclusion to the speech that she gave, and her body language suddenly changed when she said the line, going from stood straight and still and serious, then as she said the line "So....I just hope she realises what she's doing..." she just swung her head carelessly, like it wasnt even important, and the conclusion should really have been the point she emphasised the most (but of course, it wasnt her real conclusion).

This was "the Queen of Beckingham Palace" giving strict orders to her "court", but staying within the rules.

[mem]

get chanelle out pronto!!

[janine_luv_xx]

yea i hate her now i knew she wanted to say so... i hope she gets put out!

[GlitterEyes]

I think it said alot during that arguement and still from Ziggys part I think he felt protective of Chanelle and therefore stood up for her. Its that whole "man thing" again and if he sat back and did nothing he would of looked a clown. I would of thought Chanelle would of wanted to fight her corner but we all know from previous issues Chanelle likes the victim role so sat back and let Ziggy fight her battle. This is not doing Ziggy any good at all as he is falling for Chanelles trap time and time again. I agreed with Charleys comments about him being a mug that was one thing that made sense though.

Chanelle stirred up things with Charley and then "hid" cowardly behind Ziggy quite happily and let him do her dirty work. Chanelle is playing a good game in there and pulling all of Ziggys strings.