Debate: Is porn unfaithful?

[Morgan.]

So, do you think porn should be counted as being unfaithful. A few questions to think of Here.

1. Would you be upset if your partner was using porn whilst in a committed relationship with you/has this happened?

2. Have you ever used porn whilst in a committed relationship?

3. Does it make it okay if the user has permission from their OH to use it.

[Greg!]

Of course not lmao

[RileyH]

No but it's a tad weird and I wouldn't like it

[Greg!]

No but it's a tad weird and I wouldn't like it

Hmm I suppose so but I wouldn't really care unless I lived with them, (and even then I don't think I'd be particularly bothered) sometimes people just need a wee release if you know what I mean!

[Epic.]

1. No because if they were a close committed partner, they'd likely be picturing me in some way anyway

2. I've never been in a proper relationship just the odd fling :joker:

3. Of course it's okay

[Morgan.]

I adjusted the wording becuase cheating is physical acts I suppose.

[montblanc]

1. No
2. No
3. Yes

[Morgan.]

I think if you're using it in secret then you should talk to your OH and see if you can build on that aspect of your relationship. With permission then fair enough, but I'd still find it weird.

[Jigs]

No, it’s not cheating
No, I wouldn’t even feel uneasy about it
No, my partner wouldn’t need my permission and I wouldn’t ask theirs

[Oliver_W]

1) nah it's just pixels on a screen, who cares

2) no

3) you don't need permission

[smudgie]

No.
Whatever turns you on.:shrug:

[hijaxers]

No its completely unacceptable unless both parties agree.

[Oliver_W]

No its completely unacceptable unless both parties agree.

Why do you think that?

[Denver]

Porn is immorally wrong

[Barry.]

Porn is immorally wrong

Like you don't watch it.

[Denver]

Like you don't watch it.

No i do not I'm not desperate

[Crimson Dynamo]

We often watch it together

[montblanc]

We often watch it together

Goals :love:

[Babayaro.]

Lmao of course it isn't

[Cal.]

I’d be ****ing seething if my boyfriend did that to me!

[Babayaro.]

I’d be ****ing seething if my boyfriend did that to me!

You'd have to get one first, mate!

[Cal.]

You'd have to get one first, mate!

JUST SHUT UP! You’re just annoyed because you could never be my boyfriend.

[Babayaro.]

JUST SHUT UP! You’re just annoyed because you could never be my boyfriend.

:bawling:

[montblanc]

:bawling:

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[Maru]

This isn't a debate, this is a poll. Mmmmm, polls.

Also no, I don't think it is unfaithful. Maybe immoral, but not even just for couple's reasons. I actually used to be in a girl's pin-up digital painting group, and I would sometimes make my husband custom art... he seems to prefer that actually.

[Morgan.]

This isn't a debate, this is a poll. Mmmmm, polls.

Also no, I don't think it is unfaithful. Maybe immoral, but not even just for couple's reasons. I actually used to be in a girl's pin-up digital painting group, and I would sometimes make my husband custom art... he seems to prefer that actually.

The poll was just to gauge the general consensus, but the subject is up for debate as I understand there are contrasting views.

[Maru]

The poll was just to gauge the general consensus, but the subject is up for debate as I understand there are contrasting views.

I know, I'm teasing.

[montblanc]

This isn't a debate, this is a poll. Mmmmm, polls.

Also no, I don't think it is unfaithful. Maybe immoral, but not even just for couple's reasons. I actually used to be in a girl's pin-up digital painting group, and I would sometimes make my husband custom art... he seems to prefer that actually.

:creep:

[user104658]

No to all of the above, however, I personally find porn bleak as **** and have various moral issues with it. Really just a horrible, exploitative industry full of addicts and desperation and frankly if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop. But I really don't.

[montblanc]

if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop.

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[Marsh.]

I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

[Marsh.]

Serious Debates & News

This isn't a debate, this is a poll.

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[Mokka]

I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

That isn't porn though... pics sent back and forth of individuals in a personal way. Porn is more media used for a wider audience. What you are describing is a form of cheating... at least that's what I believe.

[Cal.]

My boyfriend wouldn’t be allowed.

[Amy Jade]

No it never botherd me. Never watched it with him though I'd be so uncomfortable!

[armand.kay]

No only time I would see something wrong with it is if they were watching some crazy kinky stuff that I would never try

[Wizard.]

Of course not god everyone does it in relationships

[AnnieK]

Everyone has kinks....:shrug:
Not cheating, only time if it compromises your actual sex life it would become an issue for me

[Smithy]

Who said yes I wanna laugh at you

[Smithy]

I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

Why would it be someone from GRINDR marsh?

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[Oliver_W]

This isn't a debate, this is a poll. Mmmmm, polls.

Also no, I don't think it is unfaithful. Maybe immoral, but not even just for couple's reasons. I actually used to be in a girl's pin-up digital painting group, and I would sometimes make my husband custom art... he seems to prefer that actually.
The combination of your husband jacking it to digital art and the Asian influence of your sigpic and avatar makes me wonder if you're a hentai artist?

[montblanc]

I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.

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[Wizard.]

Why would it be someone from GRINDR marsh?

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[Ant.]

All I'm saying is, the people I know that watch porn are single, and those that don't are in loving relationships

[Maru]

The combination of your husband jacking it to digital art and the Asian influence of your sigpic and avatar makes me wonder if you're a hentai artist?

No, significantly more painterly/realistic than that.

[GoldHeart]

I've clicked "other" because it depends what you mean by "porn" . If the person is just watching it and it doesn't affect their life and there's no obsessive addiction then i don't think it would cause problems.

However if they would rather spend time watching it than spending time with their partner then that's a BIG PROBLEM! . Also anything that just involves watching is not cheating , however if it's interactive with cam models etc then yes that's cheating ! especially if it's done behind the partner's back. Or if they have porno images of someone they know/ or ex partner on their phone etc then yes that's wrong if they're already in a relationship.

[Swan]

I wanking over this thread

[Maru]

Speaking of cheating. They have a robot brothel in Houston now. Our friends mentioned it, asking if it should be considered cheating... but it depends on how realistic the robots are. If they can learn your name, can interact with you emotionally... pretty sure that's cheating in my book, no matter however they put it. (well, especially how they put it, but you know...)

It wouldn't seem at first to be practical for to be the cause. Is a robot really going to replace a real human-being. Well.. the reality is, our chemistry is wired to respond to things that behave or mimic us in very emotional ways. If you can rebutt that connection, cool. I wouldn't go as far as to say that we should be scared a lover would run off with a robot, but I would think the emotional attachment to a fictional human-being would be very disruptive for a relationship in the very least. Especially if that person plays with it enough that they build a significant connection/persona around it. After all it would check all the boxes you tell it to, listens to all your problems and with some extra tech, it can even behave however you want as well...

There's already people who are attached to 3D-printed "robots". I watched an episode from a show about how people who were really into it online. I wish I could remember the name of it, because it was available online and was really good. There was a French lady in it who decided to marry one that didn't move. It was just something she made with a 3D printer iirc and parts. Some of them don't even do anything. They're just mannequins. But, they built them to be pretend.

Humans are very skilled social creatures, especially with regard to mimicry. That was so clear during that show. It's weird how she seemed to have developed robot-like features herself, while trying to make it seem "relatable" to the cameras. So from that perspective, I can understand and even empathize where some may decide in a relationship to discourage/prohibit just pornography. Maybe that does transition off-screen. Though I think with most people (not all!), it requires a bigger mental connection than just skin-to-skin to want to be with someone long-term, and pornography and robots aren't going to cut it... but those who are having issues, they may seek those "activities" as an outlet and maybe in some instances it bridges out to other behaviors...

Myself, I tend to think of porn like reading a book, but with mostly explicit scenes. We all technically watch porn if we have ever seen most Hollywood movies, in my view. And yeah, people do think tend to feel like they need to be like that in their own bedroom, so I wouldn't say it doesn't affect us either...

[Marsh.]

Why would it be someone from GRINDR marsh?

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I wasn't talking about me!!! :oh:

As if I'm in a relationship! :eek:

[Marsh.]

That isn't porn though... pics sent back and forth of individuals in a personal way. Porn is more media used for a wider audience. What you are describing is a form of cheating... at least that's what I believe.

Yeah but that's what I mean. It depends on your perspective of a partner enjoying the videos/images of a stranger having sex.

[Twosugars]

Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.


No to all of the above, however, I personally find porn bleak as **** and have various moral issues with it. Really just a horrible, exploitative industry full of addicts and desperation and frankly if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop. But I really don't.
This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

[GoldHeart]

Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.



This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

Yeah anything interactive and sexting is cheating /borderline . And obviously keeping rude videos and photo's of someone they know on their computer or phone is also immoral & weird .

[Niamh.]

No [emoji23]

[Maru]

Porn is fine, we do that with my bf. Watch separately or together :shrug:
Pics/vids send from somebody you know only online is borderline. Depends where it leads. If it leads to sex chat then it is cheating. If it's just for a laugh, comparing etc, then it's fine, no different to a locker room.



This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

Ha. Yeah, that's definitely a more masculine POV. :laugh: "What are you doing with a picture of your friend's t!ts on your phone!?" "Oh, that was only for the lulz, honey..."

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[JerseyWins]

1. No
2. Yes
3. Yes it's ok regardless :joker:

Far from unfaithful IMO. The only way it would be unfaithful to me is if the person had some kind of personal relationship with the pornstar I think... but even then ehhh it's only just bordering "cheating"

[JerseyWins]

I would say no, but then if it was pictures/videos of someone they'd met on grindr/tindr then it would be a little weird. Porn/nudes are all such a weird mix.
Yeah but that's what I mean. It depends on your perspective of a partner enjoying the videos/images of a stranger having sex.
Eh it's kinda close but different. That would mean the person actually knows the one sending them nudes and has/had been talking to them in some form. Plus in porn it's acting out a script for media/entertainment as well - in a non-personal/non-private way.

[hijaxers]

Why do you think that?

Past history with someone - too distressing to talk about still.

[hijaxers]

Of course not god everyone does it in relationships

You are incorrect there Riley sorry.

[Black Dagger]

Lol ofc not.

Obviously if you're sat next to them and they want to have a bounce and you're like "Nah hun. Want to see this twink get gangbanged instead" it'd be a bit weird. But the concept isn't immoral in my eyes.

[user104658]

This view of porn is a bit outdated. Big studios are losing to amateur porn where real people do it for fun and extra income. It's better, not as robotic and chances of exploitation are lower.

I don't mean to assume here 2S but I'm not sure how much "straight porn" you've actually watched? The main problems lie within amateur porn and that's where the vast majority of exploitation occurs. Studio porn was a career. Yes there were obviously addiction problems etc. in that industry too but the stars were paid very well and there were strict hygiene and health standards. In grainy amateur porn, most of the girls who are being ****ed on camera whilst looking a bit sad and uncomfortable and being paid a couple of hundred dollars at most for it are spending that cash on drugs, and often come from backgrounds of serious abuse. There are no regulations and its almost always without condoms.

[user104658]

There is a SMALL amount of ethical porn where the people doing it are genuinely happy and simply very open and extrovert for their own properly considered reasons but we're talking like 1% of the porn you'll find online here. The massive rate of ex porn stars talking about how unhappy they were should be a huge indicator. And that's the recognisable ones / big names... I can only imagine how the ones who already look like they're trying not to cry whilst one guy gives them a prolapse and another cums up their nose for a one off payday feel about it afterwards.

And THAT only goes into porn actually made in the US / UK etc... A huge amount of porn online is Southern American, Eastern European, and East Asian. Are we really going to pretend that these people are having fun?

Meh. Don't get me wrong I used to watch plenty of porn when I was younger. One day I just sort of realised how horrendously depressing it actually is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

All I'm saying is, the people I know that watch porn are single, and those that don't hve lied to me to make me think they are perfect


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[RileyH]

Screaming @ the amount of votes I didn't think there were even 30 people left on the forum

[user104658]

Screaming @ the amount of votes I didn't think there were even 30 people left on the forumLike 20 of them are Nicky on other accounts. And three are Brillo.

[Redway]

No to all of the above, however, I personally find porn bleak as **** and have various moral issues with it. Really just a horrible, exploitative industry full of addicts and desperation and frankly if I wanted to see some poor smack addict getting slammed I could just set up CCTV in the alleyway behind the shop. But I really don't.

You got any hard statistics to verify that statement?

[Tom4784]

I don't think it is. It's a bit silly to get upset by someone watching porn and ridiculous to act like it's cheating.

[Beastie]

Thank the lord for porn!

[Marsh.]

Eh it's kinda close but different. That would mean the person actually knows the one sending them nudes and has/had been talking to them in some form. Plus in porn it's acting out a script for media/entertainment as well - in a non-personal/non-private way.

Well, no both are stranger.

Swapping nudes on an app doesn't mean you know them.

[Mokka]

Well, no both are stranger.

Swapping nudes on an app doesn't mean you know them.

But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.

[JerseyWins]

But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.
Yeah, agree with this :clap1:

[Tom4784]

Just sounds like rampant insecurity to me.

I think mixing up porn with sites where you interact with people via nudes or video is simply muddying the waters to falsely give the porn=cheating angle made up weight. Watching a video of porn stars going at it is not the same as pursuing someone and interacting with them sexually online.

[user104658]

You got any hard statistics to verify that statement?

To verify my personal opinion? :think: Yes actually I've just done an exhaustive poll. Every Toy Soldier from TiBB was asked to verify that this is Toy Soldier from TiBB's personal opinion, and 100% of respondents said "Yes" :omgno:. Pretty conclusive stuff there doc.

[Mokka]

Just sounds like rampant insecurity to me.

I think mixing up porn with sites where you interact with people via nudes or video is simply muddying the waters to falsely give the porn=cheating angle made up weight. Watching a video of porn stars going at it is not the same as pursuing someone and interacting with them sexually online.

My point is that they are clearly two different things.... and that's where the line is drawn between cheating and not cheating

[y.winter]

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[Marsh.]

But the apps are used to sift though who you do or don't want to meet. And there is the opportunity there to take it further... now if my partner reached out to a porn star they were obsessed with... that would also be concerning.

Yeah, but how far is someone with a partner going to take it with a stranger on an app. Sex/nudes concerning strangers, obviously porn is purely consumed through a screen, but so is a large percentage of the nudes culture who never actually meet. With the progression of technology I think the lines are blurring.

[Mokka]

Yeah, but how far is someone with a partner going to take it with a stranger on an app. Sex/nudes concerning strangers, obviously porn is purely consumed through a screen, but so is a large percentage of the nudes culture who never actually meet. With the progression of technology I think the lines are blurring.

I guess far enough to seek a one on one intimate connection with one person through an app as opposed to watching just the physical acts of sex between a couple of actors in porn. I would be way more upset by a partner looking for someone else for a personal attachment/connection even if it is just on line, sexy or not, than a partner getting turned on by a sex or porno scene. We all have our own visual turn ons.... but emotional connections are the intimate part of the relationship... not to be shared... I guess unless you are polyamourous or something.

[Matthew.]

Porn is immorally wrong

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[Beso]

depends what they were looking at i guess....like if a big fat woman was living with a bloke and she found out he was looking at skinny asses on the porntube then i think she should have every right to pull him up on it.

[Livia]

I do not think porn is cheating.

[Beso]

There is a SMALL amount of ethical porn where the people doing it are genuinely happy and simply very open and extrovert for their own properly considered reasons but we're talking like 1% of the porn you'll find online here. The massive rate of ex porn stars talking about how unhappy they were should be a huge indicator. And that's the recognisable ones / big names... I can only imagine how the ones who already look like they're trying not to cry whilst one guy gives them a prolapse and another cums up their nose for a one off payday feel about it afterwards.

And THAT only goes into porn actually made in the US / UK etc... A huge amount of porn online is Southern American, Eastern European, and East Asian. Are we really going to pretend that these people are having fun?

Meh. Don't get me wrong I used to watch plenty of porn when I was younger. One day I just sort of realised how horrendously depressing it actually is.




ts, staring down at his limp dick, cheese grater in hand.....

[Redway]

To verify my personal opinion? :think: Yes actually I've just done an exhaustive poll. Every Toy Soldier from TiBB was asked to verify that this is Toy Soldier from TiBB's personal opinion, and 100% of respondents said "Yes" :omgno:. Pretty conclusive stuff there doc.

You don’t seem to have an issue doing that everyone else. According to you people’s views on parenting are meaningless without hard statistics

[user104658]

You don’t seem to have an issue doing that everyone else. According to you people’s views on parenting are meaningless without hard statisticsOh so you're carrying a snippy personal vendetta over from another thread. No, we won't be doing that, I'm not even slightly interested.

[Jack_]

What people do in their own company with their own...hands...is not really anyone else’s business, relationship or not.

[user104658]

ts, staring down at his limp dick, cheese grater in hand.....:joker: I have a wife Parmy, we don't all need porn for sex :nono:.

To be fair though I also didn't say that I never have a good ol' wank, but I also have an imagination that's far more vivid than any porn and also doesn't harm anyone :hee:. Honestly Parm, you're old enough to remember the good old days! When all you needed was a box of tissues and the underwear section of the Index catalogue! I despair for the youth of today who can't get off without watching some poor desperate Russian teenager getting an anal perforation and a nasty STI.

But whatever works I guess.

[user104658]

What people do in their own company with their own...hands...is not really anyone else’s business, relationship or not.I also agree with that and I don't particularly care if anyone else watches or enjoys porn; I'm just explaining the reasons that I personally dislike it.

[Jack_]

I also agree with that and I don't particularly care if anyone else watches or enjoys porn; I'm just explaining the reasons that I personally dislike it.

Oh I wasn’t addressing your posts (I’ve not read the thread tbh) :laugh: I was just answering the title

[Twosugars]

:joker: I have a wife Parmy, we don't all need porn for sex :nono:.

To be fair though I also didn't say that I never have a good ol' wank, but I also have an imagination that's far more vivid than any porn and also doesn't harm anyone :hee:. Honestly Parm, you're old enough to remember the good old days! When all you needed was a box of tissues and the underwear section of the Index catalogue! I despair for the youth of today who can't get off without watching some poor desperate Russian teenager getting an anal perforation and a nasty STI.

But whatever works I guess.

gonna answer you again bc the picture of porn you paint is ott :shrug:
unless you are into some s/m or other brutalisation/humiliation scenarios I don't recognize your doom and gloom. Been watching porn (gay) for years and vaaaast majority of it is fun, especially amateur.

[GoldHeart]

gonna answer you again bc the picture of porn you paint is ott :shrug:
unless you are into some s/m or other brutalisation/humiliation scenarios I don't recognize your doom and gloom. Been watching porn (gay) for years and vaaaast majority of it is fun, especially amateur.

I think the problem is alot of these websites have the extreme stuff mingled in or weird title's for the shock factor , there's been youtube videos of people's reactions to some of these (obviously you don't see anything but you see their disgusted reaction). But i assume the average movies are full of models who are happy with what they're doing .

[user104658]

gonna answer you again bc the picture of porn you paint is ott :shrug:
unless you are into some s/m or other brutalisation/humiliation scenarios I don't recognize your doom and gloom. Been watching porn (gay) for years and vaaaast majority of it is fun, especially amateur.Like I said 2S I don't know if the gay porn scene is different but the majority of straight amateur porn on sites like pornhub, etc, the females are quite blatantly exploited and don't look like they're having a very good time. Frankly, the BULK of straight amateur porn is humiliation / degradation scenarios... At least to the extent where you'd have to sift through a tonne of it to find the "good videos".

Then you have the more polished stuff where everyone seems to be enjoying it and having a good time. But then, most ex porn stars who seemed to be having a great time in their videos, when they later quit or retire, report that they were actually pretty miserable and turned to it for the money as they felt they had no choice.

Again like I said I'm not judging anyone for watching or enjoying it, each to their own, I just find it near impossible to get my rocks off watching it and not just then feel totally empty inside.

[Beso]

:joker: I have a wife Parmy, we don't all need porn for sex :nono:.

To be fair though I also didn't say that I never have a good ol' wank, but I also have an imagination that's far more vivid than any porn and also doesn't harm anyone :hee:. Honestly Parm, you're old enough to remember the good old days! When all you needed was a box of tissues and the underwear section of the Index catalogue! I despair for the youth of today who can't get off without watching some poor desperate Russian teenager getting an anal perforation and a nasty STI.

But whatever works I guess.



The shower section for the naked bums...or carol vorderman if it was a quickie.

[TwentyOneThrones]

Is it *****

I've been perfectly fine for the last 5 Weeks. It's not unfaithful of me to watch some Helix Studios when he's away

[Crimson Dynamo]

I guess if dear wife comes home and sees her husband ejaculating to 100% gay porn with a large but plug implanted in his anus and with lipstick on she may have some concerns


also she should fckg knock next time

:oh:

[Livia]

There are loads of women in positions of power in the porn industry. Female producers, female directors... while I'd agree it's iffy in other countries, I don't believe that the UK and US, and even most the European porn industry is detrimental to the women who work in it. They get paid more than the men for a start. So long as the women are safe, doing it of their own free will and not being coerced in any way, I support them.

[Twosugars]

I guess if dear wife comes home and sees her husband ejaculating to 100% gay porn with a large but plug implanted in his anus and with lipstick on she may have some concerns


also she should fckg knock next time

:oh:

should have locked the door, LT :inamood:

[Crimson Dynamo]

should have locked the door, LT :inamood:

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