Anne Hegarty

[Cherie]

Don't get me wrong I love her on the Chase, but I don't understand why the campmates are fawning over her, yes she got upset then she got over it and that is fine and its good to talk about her disability, but they seem to be doing what many people do with people with disabilities assuming they can't do stuff so doing it for them, why is she sitting back watching the others doing things in camp, it's not sitting well with me at the moment

[chuff me dizzy]

I agree, I really like her, but all Ive seen her do so far is lay or sit down and talk about herself ....and then to declare she's no intention of helping in the camp ,I will soon go off her if she doesn't change

[Cal.]

She’s already said it’s difficult for her to help out in camp because she has to go through a process to get things done whereas the others can just do them without thinking about it. I’m sure she will pitch in at some point but I think the main priority whilst it is still early days is to find her bearings.

[chuff me dizzy]

She’s already said it’s difficult for her to help out in camp because she has to go through a process to get things done whereas the others can just do them without thinking about it. I’m sure she will pitch in at some point but I think the main priority whilst it is still early days is to find her bearings.

Surely she doesn't have to go through a process to get up and walk about, wash a few dishes ? I hope she's not using her condition as an excuse to be lazy

[smudgie]

After seeing her dressed as a garden gnome and having so much fun, she can do no wrong.
Lover her, and also like the fact that she is not frightened to show her vulnerability.

[Vanessa]

After seeing her dressed as a garden gnome and having so much fun, she can do no wrong.
Lover her, and also like the fact that she is not frightened to show her vulnerability.

At the moment she's my favourite. Hope she does well in the trial.

[bots]

i don't like saying it, but I think she is using her disability as an excuse. She has to interact with the world and perform activities in real life, so why does she get a free pass there? She did the first tasks on launch night without issue, she will be doing a trial today. All without thinking it all through first.

[Morgan.]

i don't like saying it, but I think she is using her disability as an excuse. She has to interact with the world and perform activities in real life, so why does she get a free pass there? She did the first tasks on launch night without issue, she will be doing a trial today. All without thinking it all through first.

She said months ago on Loose women that she has to go through th process at home, the reason why her house is messy and full of junk because she can't process sorting it out right now.

[chuff me dizzy]

i don't like saying it, but I think she is using her disability as an excuse. She has to interact with the world and perform activities in real life, so why does she get a free pass there? She did the first tasks on launch night without issue, she will be doing a trial today. All without thinking it all through first.

I agree, but im hoping she changes her ways very soon, and its a CONDITION not a disability

[chuff me dizzy]

She said months ago on Loose women that she has to go through th process at home, the reason why her house is messy and full of junk because she can't process sorting it out right now.

Or shes lazy ? :shrug:

[Zizu]

After seeing her dressed as a garden gnome and having so much fun, she can do no wrong.

Lover her, and also like the fact that she is not frightened to show her vulnerability.



Well we didn't see how long it took them to convince her to put the gnome costume on .... I've got Aspergers and wearing a costume or anything slightly 'out there' is a no no ..


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[Zizu]

Or shes lazy ? :shrug:



No I know what she means ... you find yourself overwhelmed by jobs or things that need doing but you can't just 'do them' you have to prioritise things then go through the main job in your head kinda visualising every step before you even start on it . She's probably a perfectionist as well which of course only adds to the pressure


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[Niamh.]

Well we didn't see how long it took them to convince her to put the gnome costume on .... I've got Aspergers and wearing a costume or anything slightly 'out there' is a no no ..


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It will be very interesting to hear your insight into things in that case

[Zizu]

I agree, I really like her, but all Ive seen her do so far is lay or sit down and talk about herself ....and then to declare she's no intention of helping in the camp ,I will soon go off her if she doesn't change



She just needs to find her place in the camp ... if it was me I'd take care of the fire ... keep it burning and go foraging for wood supplies each and every day .

It will be so hard for her ... she had that alter ego of being a bit narky but she's clearly a kind , caring soul .

Yesterday when they went to choose their treat and thingy said 'it's no choice , obviously has to be scones and cream' ... Anne said nothing and went along with the 'decision' yet when the camp chose the wrong answer and they didn't get the scones .... Anne let it slip that SHE would have chosen the other option ...


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[chuff me dizzy]

She just needs to find her place in the camp ... if it was me I'd take care of the fire ... keep it burning and go foraging for wood supplies each and every day .

It will be so hard for her ... she had that alter ego of being a bit narky but she's clearly a kind , caring soul .

Yesterday when they went to choose their treat and thingy said 'it's no choice , obviously has to be scones and cream' ... Anne said nothing and went along with the 'decision' yet when the camp chose the wrong answer and they didn't get the scones .... Anne let it slip that SHE would have chosen the other option ...


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I like Anne very much ,but will go off her if shes lazy

[Crimson Dynamo]

She’s already said it’s difficult for her to help out in camp because she has to go through a process to get things done whereas the others can just do them without thinking about it. I’m sure she will pitch in at some point but I think the main priority whilst it is still early days is to find her bearings.

So why before she went or agreed to be overly paid for sitting on her arse for a week or two did she not pre process that information before?

[Zizu]

So why before she went or agreed to be overly paid for sitting on her arse for a week or two did she not pre process that information before?



That's a question only she can answer ... I can't imagine she's gone on there without watching some previous episodes to get an idea of what's in store for her .

The complications are she has no idea who was going to be on her team .. where camp they were based ... and so many unknowns / variables to unsettle her ..

It's also dreadfully hot and humid , being eaten alive by insects ... not sleeping and they've not eaten a decent meal for ages ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

That's a question only she can answer ... I can't imagine she's gone on there without watching some previous episodes to get an idea of what's in store for her .

The complications are she has no idea who was going to be on her team .. where camp they were based ... and so many unknowns / variables to unsettle her ..

It's also dreadfully hot and humid , being eaten alive by insects ... not sleeping and they've not eaten a decent meal for ages ..


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ie the same for the others

[Denver]

I like Anne very much ,but will go off her if shes lazy

You have very little knowledge of Asperger's/Autism i see

[Crimson Dynamo]

You have very little knowledge of Asperger's/Autism i see

And neither do the camp it seems as they are treating her like she is an invalid

[Alf]

We'll find out tonight if Anne is a sinker or swimmer, this trial will either make or break her.

[chuff me dizzy]

And neither do the camp it seems as they are treating her like she is an invalid

Exactly, an invalid precious little snowflake, but they will soon get tired of it ,Its early days the girls are all playing to the cameras ,but they will soon be calling her lazy if she doesn't buck her ideas up

[Crimson Dynamo]

Problem is its a spectrum we are all on but when you say the word people just think of the extremes and i guess if it gets her attention and special treatment she may milk this to her benefit?

That is the worry

[Rob!]

Or shes lazy ? :shrug:

It’s nothing to do with being lazy. She has to tell herself to get involved with the jobs around the camp because the social etiquette of “I should help with that” doesn’t go through her brain naturally like “normal” people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It’s nothing to do with being lazy. She has to tell herself to get involved with the jobs around the camp because the social etiquette of “I should help with that” doesn’t go through her brain naturally like “normal” people.

How do you know this about her?

[Alf]

It’s nothing to do with being lazy. She has to tell herself to get involved with the jobs around the camp because the social etiquette of “I should help with that” doesn’t go through her brain naturally like “normal” people.Like me with the pots and the hoovering.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe this trial tonight will be the making of her, lets wait and see how she goes

[Rob!]

How do you know this about her?

Because she explained it in great detail in yesterday’s show?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because she explained it in great detail in yesterday’s show?

It was more of a justification to my ears than a clinical diagnosis

[rusticgal]

Don't get me wrong I love her on the Chase, but I don't understand why the campmates are fawning over her, yes she got upset then she got over it and that is fine and its good to talk about her disability, but they seem to be doing what many people do with people with disabilities assuming they can't do stuff so doing it for them, why is she sitting back watching the others doing things in camp, it's not sitting well with me at the moment

I completely agree. Whilst she seems a lovely interesting lady..she doesn't look like she is up to much in camp. The bushtucker trial yesterday was basically a single handed job by Fleur and after emptying a few buckets Anne was knackered... it wasn't even too physical.
I think at the moment they are all loving looking after her...it also makes them look good (even if im being cynical)...but it will soon start to wear thin and their tolerance will be tested.

[chuff me dizzy]

I completely agree. Whilst she seems a lovely interesting lady..she doesn't look like she is up to much in camp. The bushtucker trial yesterday was basically a single handed job by Fleur and after emptying a few buckets Anne was knackered... it wasn't even too physical.
I think at the moment they are all loving looking after her...it also makes them look good (even if im being cynical)...but it will soon start to wear thin and their tolerance will be tested.

I agree

[Alf]

Yes! I agree with everyone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I completely agree. Whilst she seems a lovely interesting lady..she doesn't look like she is up to much in camp. The bushtucker trial yesterday was basically a single handed job by Fleur and after emptying a few buckets Anne was knackered... it wasn't even too physical.
I think at the moment they are all loving looking after her...it also makes them look good (even if im being cynical)...but it will soon start to wear thin and their tolerance will be tested.

She was out of breath and gasping just arriving at the trial :shocked:

[chuff me dizzy]

She was out of breath and gasping just arriving at the trial :shocked:

Where did she get the chair from she sat on while Fleur doing all the work ?

[Alf]

Permission to speak?

[chuff me dizzy]

Permission to speak?

Carry on my lovely

[Crimson Dynamo]

So Anne can park in a disabled spot at a supermarket?

[Niamh.]

So Anne can park in a disabled spot at a supermarket?

From next year she can yes

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/29/blue-badge-scheme-changes-disabled-parking-mentally-ill-isolation

[Niamh.]

Back on topic please

[Crimson Dynamo]

From next year she can yes

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jul/29/blue-badge-scheme-changes-disabled-parking-mentally-ill-isolation

so that is a no


These spaces should be for physical disability and for the infirm/wheelchairs

[Mitchell]

Back on topic please

If I’m honest Niamh, I do not understand how comments about how autism isn’t a disability, about how people with autism just ‘want special treatment’ and people without the illness telling people how the process is are on topic, but my comments were not.

And on the topic, I think what Anne is doing is amazing, she is giving awareness to 11 million viewers on national television every night, I will be supporting her all the way for doing this.

[Niamh.]

so that is a no


These spaces should be for physical disability and for the infirm/wheelchairs

That's a yes soon she will be...........

[Crimson Dynamo]

If I’m honest Niamh, I do not understand how comments about how autism isn’t a disability, about how people with autism just ‘want special treatment’ and people without the illness telling people how the process is are on topic, but my comments were not.

And on the topic, I think what Anne is doing is amazing, she is giving awareness to 11 million viewers on national television every night, I will be supporting her all the way for doing this.

Isnt she just doing it for the money, they asked her and not the other way around?

Harry isnt doing this for people with no smell or people who survived horrific car crashes

[chuff me dizzy]

If I’m honest Niamh, I do not understand how comments about how autism isn’t a disability, about how people with autism just ‘want special treatment’ and people without the illness telling people how the process is are on topic, but my comments were not.

And on the topic, I think what Anne is doing is amazing, she is giving awareness to 11 million viewers on national television every night, I will be supporting her all the way for doing this.

Anne like everyone else is doing it for herself and the money ,I doubt shes educated anyone

[Mitchell]

Isnt she just doing it for the money, they asked her and not the other way around?

Harry isnt doing this for people with no smell or people who survived horrific car crashes

Regardless of money, she is still bringing awareness to an issue that the general public generally don’t know much about, it’s helping tonnes and hopefully will help people out there.

[Matthew.]

well I think she’s doing really well :clap1:

[chuff me dizzy]

Regardless of money, she is still bringing awareness to an issue that the general public generally don’t know much about, it’s helping tonnes and hopefully will help people out there.

We dont watch any tv show for someone to push their condition or anything else down our necks

[Rob!]

We dont watch any tv show for someone to push their condition or anything else down our necks

You do realise that the celebrities don't edit the show. I mean, you have grasped that concept, right?

[Gusto Brunt]

I never knew she's autistic.

[Barry.]

Love Anne. I think she is doing great.

[Tom4784]

Anne like everyone else is doing it for herself and the money ,I doubt shes educated anyone

Certainly not you, it seems.

A touch of empathy would not go amiss tbh, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes for once.

[Niamh.]

tbf to Anne, it was Rita that kept asking her about it and tbqh I found it educational, I don't know alot about autism/aspergers

[BBDodge]

ITV News in a major Anne promotion.

Winner already decided.

[GoldHeart]

It's barely been a few days give Ann a chance to settle in , i'm hoping she slays the trial :fc: :) .

[Liam-]

As an uncle of two autistic nephews, I find her presence on the show and her frank discussions of her condition refreshingly honest, even though it is quite a common condition there’s still a lot that people don’t understand about it, it’s great to have someone out there in public allowing people to learn more about it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

As an uncle of two autistic nephews, I find her presence on the show and her frank discussions of her condition refreshingly honest, even though it is quite a common condition there’s still a lot that people don’t understand about it, it’s great to have someone out there in public allowing people to learn more about it.

Did you expect her to lie?

Someone asked her

Do you find Harry refreshing and honest for talking about nearly dying in a car crash or nearly killing his wife?

No. Course you don't

:idc:

[Jack_]

Why are people concerned whether she’s going to be pulling her weight? We’re not living with her, so who cares? :conf:

Same kind of nonsense we get on BB too

[Marsh.]

How do you know this about her?

It's a common symptom of Aspergers/autism.

[Marsh.]

Did you expect her to lie?


No, he's talking about actually talking frankly about it and how it's affected her life and how it's caused her to struggle with even the most basic parts of her life.

Rather than being embarrassed or ashamed of talking about it. Non-physical disabilities have held a stigma for a long time that stopped people feeling comfortable to discuss them.

[Zizu]

ie the same for the others



It's absolutely not the same for the others ... Aspergers 'experience' life so differently to 'normal' folk..

An example is that if they suddenly announced tonight that the two were joining together and there would be a party to celebrate... everyone else would be deliriously happy and start dressing up an getting ready but I can almost guarantee that Anne would retreat back into her shell and start fretting about what the evening would be like .. plus whilst everyone else may be excitedly dancing around and be in good spirits ... Anne would be sat in a corner on the fringe of things and keeping out of the way ..
It's what we do ..


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[Zizu]

And neither do the camp it seems as they are treating her like she is an invalid



By asking relevant and interesting questions ??


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[Zizu]

She was out of breath and gasping just arriving at the trial :shocked:



That's what you'd expect a women of her age who's extremely overweight ( unhealthily so ).. given the hot ,humid conditions and her lack of food and sleep


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[Zizu]

If I’m honest Niamh, I do not understand how comments about how autism isn’t a disability, about how people with autism just ‘want special treatment’ and people without the illness telling people how the process is are on topic, but my comments were not.



And on the topic, I think what Anne is doing is amazing, she is giving awareness to 11 million viewers on national television every night, I will be supporting her all the way for doing this.



Bravo !!!


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[Zizu]

We dont watch any tv show for someone to push their condition or anything else down our necks



Did you actually watch the show !?

She said last night that she never mentions her Aspergers BUT if someone asks her about it she's happy to answer any questions.

How much more accommodating can she be ??


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[Marsh.]

We dont watch any tv show for someone to push their condition or anything else down our necks

ie. you're just intolerant to anything that doesn't affect your narrow little world.

[Zizu]

As an uncle of two autistic nephews, I find her presence on the show and her frank discussions of her condition refreshingly honest, even though it is quite a common condition there’s still a lot that people don’t understand about it, it’s great to have someone out there in public allowing people to learn more about it.



I hope she stays in the show a while and gets the chance to tell more stories about how Aspergers effects her in every day life ..

Millions around the country watch it and many of my work colleagues...so from a selffish angle the more she explains to the others the more my fellow workers will understand my problems and issues ... thankfully I work some lovely , supportive people anyways though .


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[GoldHeart]

ie. you're just intolerant to anything that doesn't affect your narrow little world.

Yeah I can honestly say i never even knew Ann was autistic until she mentioned it on launch , and i was surprised as i never knew . Ann obviously will be open if anyone asks her about it and that's good i think :shrug: .

[Alf]

Certainly not you, it seems.

A touch of empathy would not go amiss tbh, try putting yourself in someone else's shoes for once.If you was me, this post would be deleted.

[Alf]

ie. you're just intolerant to anything that doesn't affect your narrow little world.This post would also be deleted.

[Alf]

I had a post deleted calling Anne bone idle, on tonight's show Anne called herself lazy. Alf was right the mods were wrong

[Marsh.]

This post would also be deleted.

:pat:

[Denver]

I had a post deleted calling Anne bone idle, on tonight's show Anne called herself lazy. Alf was right the mods were wrong

2 totally different scenarios

[Alf]

2 totally different scenariosMe and Anne agree and you can't handle the fact I was right and you were wrong.

[hijaxers]

Yeah I can honestly say i never even knew Ann was autistic until she mentioned it on launch , and i was surprised as i never knew . Ann obviously will be open if anyone asks her about it and that's good i think :shrug: .

Anne has actually been on more than one prog where she has spoken about her problems and how she came to be a Chaser.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She was awul tonight and needs to go as she is ruining people's experience now

[bots]

She is ruining my experience for sure

[Denver]

She is ruining my experience for sure

So a women struggling with a disability is ruining your experience?

[bots]

So a women struggling with a disability is ruining your experience?

i watch the show for entertainment, she isn't entertaining

[Marsh.]

People struggling to cope with jungle life and the trials accounts for at least 70% of every series.

[Denver]

i watch the show for entertainment, she isn't entertaining

I feel sorry for any disabled person who comes into your life with attitudes like that

[smudgie]

I find her very interesting.
No fakery abut her, very honest and blunt.
My type of person.

[rusticgal]

It has been an eye opener for me as I have never really understood how autism affects your life...very sad.
However...I find it uncomfortable watching someone suffer in a situation you don't have to be in. I almost found it cruel that the public voted her for a trial. Surely she won't be voted for any more...because that trial was tame compared to most but even that was too much for Ann.
Maybe she wants to test herself..but seeing someone upset every five minutes because she is struggling with the whole experience isn't an easy thing to watch...

[bots]

I feel sorry for any disabled person who comes into your life with attitudes like that

Interacting with a disabled person is not the same as watching an entertainment show. Don't even try to connect them. You don't know me, and you don't know my life. So, stop getting personal and talk about the entertainment show.

[Ashley.]

Don't get me wrong I love her on the Chase, but I don't understand why the campmates are fawning over her, yes she got upset then she got over it and that is fine and its good to talk about her disability, but they seem to be doing what many people do with people with disabilities assuming they can't do stuff so doing it for them, why is she sitting back watching the others doing things in camp, it's not sitting well with me at the moment

She actually explained in last night's episode that it was difficult for her to complete simple tasks, such as cooking and cleaning. This isn't uncommon among people with autism.

[Crimson Dynamo]

She was awul tonight and needs to go as she is ruining people's experience now

[Rob!]

She was awul tonight and needs to go as she is ruining people's experience now

Are you receiving a different edit to the rest of us? Who is she ruining the experience of?

[AnnieK]

i watch the show for entertainment, she isn't entertaining

I guess it depends on what you class as entertaining. Its too early for me to judge....at the moment, I am am finding her interesting and more entertaining than a camp mate who is over the top enthusiastic......that may change (I'm fickle lol) but if she does raise awareness for people on the spectrum about life with autism, its got to be a benefit imo

[rusticgal]

i watch the show for entertainment, she isn't entertaining

I get where you are coming from. It's wrong that people call you out for saying that because you obviously don't dislike people for having a disability.
Anne is an intelligent woman and has every right to be in the jungle as anyone else... It's not a situation anyone with her condition would put themselves in IMO. She is educating the public..maybe that's why she is there..but it's hard to watch someone suffer. Its entertaining watching celebrities suffer the tasks...that's why we watch it. But to watch Anne suffer because of her condition is another kettle of fish.
Anne will now sit in camp and everyone will treat her like a child like Fleur...the other camp mates will molly coddle her and her knowledge and intelligence will be all she will offer the camp.
She won't be able to do many of the tasks or challenges...she won't be cooking or fetching water/wood etc. Will she walk?...I doubt it because everyone will be looking after her. Fair play to them...it's what most of us would do.
I just wonder if any of them will find it hard after a few days...when they are all tired and hungry I think their empathy might wane.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you receiving a different edit to the rest of us? Who is she ruining the experience of?

Everyone having to lie to her and pretend around her . It's uncomfortable and fake. She has done nothing but moan and give up. Does she remember she is being paid an annual salary here and the rest for jack all?

It's a n entertainment sho w

[rusticgal]

Everyone having to lie to her and pretend around her . It's uncomfortable and fake.w

....and treating her like a two year old.

[Crimson Dynamo]

....and treating her like a two year old.

Everyone trying to impress at the moment and Anne is ideal to parade ones empathy medals

A couple more days before the sly comments start

[rusticgal]

Everyone trying to impress at the moment and Anne is ideal to parade ones empathy medals

A couple more days before the sly comments start


I don't know that anyone would though...even with the hunger and tiredness creeping in. I think looks and body language might speak volumes though.

[GoldHeart]

It's ashame Ann only got 2 stars and quit the trial, but she was near enough having a panic attack and the trial was really difficult .

[Cherie]

She actually explained in last night's episode that it was difficult for her to complete simple tasks, such as cooking and cleaning. This isn't uncommon among people with autism.

I worked with autistic children for 10 years, she is doing disability a disservice as she is not really trying to get involved, her campmates are fawning around her rather than enabling. I also think she feels she should have special treatment. Nicks gesture with the pillow was nice, but not creating a routine for her to enable her to get involved in camp life is not doing her any favours and her not trying to get involved is just perpetuating the stereotype that people with disabilities cannot contribute in the same way that people who don't have can

[Crimson Dynamo]

it's ashame ann only got 2 stars and quit the trial, but she was near enough having a panic attack and the trial was really difficult .

it was a bog standard easy trial

[Parmy]

I'm not watching until she's gone, the bodies bad enough without all those insect bites she will pick up by not moving her fat arse.

[Parmy]

She actually explained in last night's episode that it was difficult for her to complete simple tasks, such as cooking and cleaning. This isn't uncommon among people with autism.

Doesn't stop her collecting a nice fat pay cheque for the chase and this though...bloody excuse after excuse with her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I worked with autistic children for 10 years, she is doing disability a disservice as she is not really trying to get involved, her campmates are fawning around her rather than enabling. I also think she feels she should have special treatment. Nicks gesture with the pillow was nice, but not creating a routine for her to enable her to get involved in camp life is not doing her any favours and her not trying to get involved is just perpetuating the stereotype that people with disabilities cannot contribute in the same way that people who don't have can

I was amazed she accepted it, if she had any manners she would have refused or given it to Harry who is 71

[Cherie]

I was amazed she accepted it, if she had any manners she would have refused or given it to Harry who is 71

I get the feeling Anne has a sense of entitlement, I hope I am proved wrong as I really like her on the Chase

[Niamh.]

I get the feeling Anne has a sense of entitlement, I hope I am proved wrong as I really like her on the Chase

I don't think so, she seemed to genuinely be struggling last night

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't think so, she seemed to genuinely be struggling last night

just last night?

[Niamh.]

just last night?

Well it's only been on 3 days LT :laugh:

[chuff me dizzy]

So a women struggling with a disability is ruining your experience?

A condition not a disability

[Rob!]

A condition not a disability

So a woman with a condition is ruining your experience?

[Matthew.]

Anne is doing very well and she should be very proud of herself, i feel sorry for her though as she is clearly struggling <3

[Denver]

So a woman with a condition is ruining your experience?

She isnt a young man with his body out making everyone elses life hell is she?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Anne is doing very well and she should be very proud of herself, i feel sorry for her though as she is clearly struggling <3

she clearly is NOT doing well


:rolleyes:

[rusticgal]

I get the feeling Anne has a sense of entitlement, I hope I am proved wrong as I really like her on the Chase

I don't watch the Chase but Ive seen bits and know who she is. But you are right with the entitlement. She happily sits back and lets the others do everything when she is quite clearly able to do some things to help around camp. She lets Fleur treat her like a child and she could easily have refused Nicks nice gesture.
I don't dislike her and she has taught me a few things about her condition...but she needs to do something in the camp but I think she will happily sit back and let the others rally round her.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Noel is bound to say something

[chuff me dizzy]

I don't watch the Chase but Ive seen bits and know who she is. But you are right with the entitlement. She happily sits back and lets the others do everything when she is quite clearly able to do some things to help around camp. She lets Fleur treat her like a child and she could easily have refused Nicks nice gesture.
I don't dislike her and she has taught me a few things about her condition...but she needs to do something in the camp but I think she will happily sit back and let the others rally round her.

I agree ,she does act like she believes she's entitled and she put zero effort into feeding the camp last night ,but I bet she expects them to do a damn sight worse tasks to feed her

[Matthew.]

she clearly is NOT doing well


:rolleyes:

there’s no denying she’s having a tough time but she’s doing well and coming across very well

[chuff me dizzy]

there’s no denying she’s having a tough time but she’s doing well and coming across very well

How is she "Doing well " shes done sod all

[Cherie]

So a woman with a condition is ruining your experience?

She never said that

[Matthew.]

How is she "Doing well " shes done sod all

it’s clear that going out of her comfort zone is a massive step for her and she’ll take slightly longer than others might to adjust to her surroundings, so that in itself is classed as “doing well”

[Cherie]

I don't watch the Chase but Ive seen bits and know who she is. But you are right with the entitlement. She happily sits back and lets the others do everything when she is quite clearly able to do some things to help around camp. She lets Fleur treat her like a child and she could easily have refused Nicks nice gesture.
I don't dislike her and she has taught me a few things about her condition...but she needs to do something in the camp but I think she will happily sit back and let the others rally round her.

I don't dislike her but I do think she is alot more capable than she is letting on

[Cherie]

it’s clear that going out of her comfort zone is a massive step for her and she’ll take slightly longer than others might to adjust to her surroundings, so that in itself is classed as “doing well”

they are all out of their comfort zone, unless sleeping in a hammock is de riguer for Harry down in Poole :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

it’s clear that going out of her comfort zone is a massive step for her and she’ll take slightly longer than others might to adjust to her surroundings, so that in itself is classed as “doing well”

how do you know what her "comfort zone" is?

how do you judge a "massive step"?

and how do you classify " doing well" ?

You literally made up 3 parameters and then marked them according to your narrative

[chuff me dizzy]

She never said that

I didn't rise to the bait Cherie :bored:

[Matthew.]

how do you know what her "comfort zone" is?

how do you judge a "massive step"?

and how do you classify " doing well" ?

You literally made up 3 parameters and then marked them according to your narrative

idk exactly what her comfort zone is, do you? however, if you’ve been watching, then you’ll notice that she’s not in it. Like Cherie said, they’ve all gone out of their comfort zone, but you can tell that Anne really is out of hers (again, if you’ve been watching)

[chuff me dizzy]

idk exactly what her comfort zone is, do you? however, if you’ve been watching, then you’ll notice that she’s not in it. Like Cherie said, they’ve all gone out of their comfort zone, but you can tell that Anne really is out of hers (again, if you’ve been watching)

Or she's just bone idle ? :shrug:

[Cherie]

I didn't rise to the bait Cherie :bored:

You do well

[Matthew.]

Or she's just bone idle ? :shrug:

i doubt it

[Cherie]

i doubt it

she said herself last night she is lazy when the guys were exercising

[rusticgal]

i doubt it



She said she was lazy...

[chuff me dizzy]

i doubt it

Shes admitted being lazy and by the sounds of it she lives in a hovel, but the camp isn't her home,shes GOT to pull her weight or some of the others ,once they get fed up of seeing her sat on her backside will soon be telling her

[mxhunter]

Did Anne refuse to do anything else last night? I didn't watch.

I have a diagnosis of Aspergers and I was so sad to see Anne refuse to do even the most menial of things like wash the dishes on the previous episode. It is further making the whole country believe that we are incapable of living independently, that opportunities must be denied to us because we could not possibly cope. It's because of that perception that I never tell anyone of my diagnosis because I don't want them to look at me in that way.

People on the Aspergers side of the autism spectrum usually live independently, just as Anne does. She lives alone (albeit in a bit of a **** hole from what she said), she travels into London every day for work, she handles the stress of recalling facts on a television set in front of an audience. She lives a great life, just as so many of us with Aspergers do. So many people with Aspergers go on to become academics and doctors and engineers because our difficulties drive us to want to succeed and better ourselves.

Most of us are a god damn mess when we're teenagers, I was too. But by adulthood we have learnt more about life and society and we usually try our hardest to fit in and lead as normal a life as possible because we don't want to be perceived differently. We have difficulties and some 'normal' things are off limits, e.g. I could never to go a club or a loud party because I would be so awkward and not have a clue what to do. It's also true that we can find it difficult to process things. However most of us wouldn't find it difficult to process the most basic things like how to wash a pot, certainly not by Anne's age, but even if we did, most of us would take two minutes to process it and then join in with the rest of the group once we're ready.

Sorry for the long post. I am just frustrated because I think she is using the autism card either because she is lazy or because she wants sympathy, and it's annoying me because I don't want the whole country to think we're all like that. There are some things that I can understand. I would find the first day or two in the jungle difficult to cope with too, just as Anne did. I'd definitely hide it from the others and I wouldn't want to show other people that I was struggling but if Anne wanted to express herself in that way then so be it, we all deal with things differently. But I think she takes the piss a bit sometimes.

[Marsh.]

I think you're confused.

Anne hasn't "refused" to do anything.

[mxhunter]

I'm not confused about anything, if I used the wrong word I apologise. I'll get my thesaurus out for my next post. But I saw with my own eyes Anne not wash the dishes on the previous episode. The rest of the team facilitated that decision, they encouraged her not to participate, but it's just frustrating to see her not make an effort regardless of what the team says and try and get involved anyway and explaining and justifying the whole thing on the basis of her diagnosis.

[Marsh.]

I'm not confused about anything, if I used the wrong word I apologise. I'll get my thesaurus out for my next post. But I saw with my own eyes Anne not wash the dishes on the previous episode. The rest of the team facilitated that decision, but it's just frustrating to see her not make an effort regardless of what the team says and try and get involved anyway.

You are confused. Probably because you didn't watch.

She didn't refuse to do anything.

[mxhunter]

You are confused. Probably because you didn't watch.

She didn't refuse to do anything.

I am not confused, you are confused. I didn't watch last nights episode, but I did watch the previous one. As I mentioned in my first post. And in my first post I said that she didn't participate in basic tasks like washing the pots, and her not participating was discussed in the wider context of her not being able to process it because of her diagnosis. And I am saying that I believe that to be false.

[chuff me dizzy]

Did Anne refuse to do anything else last night? I didn't watch.

I have a diagnosis of Aspergers and I was so sad to see Anne refuse to do even the most menial of things like wash the dishes on the previous episode. It is further making the whole country believe that we are incapable of living independently, that opportunities must be denied to us because we could not possibly cope. It's because of that perception that I never tell anyone of my diagnosis because I don't want them to look at me in that way.

People on the Aspergers side of the autism spectrum usually live independently, just as Anne does. She lives alone (albeit in a bit of a **** hole from what she said), she travels into London every day for work, she handles the stress of recalling facts on a television set in front of an audience. She lives a great life, just as so many of us with Aspergers do. So many people with Aspergers go on to become academics and doctors and engineers because our difficulties drive us to want to succeed and better ourselves.

Most of us are a god damn mess when we're teenagers, I was too. But by adulthood we have learnt more about life and society and we usually try our hardest to fit in and lead as normal a life as possible because we don't want to be perceived differently. We have difficulties and some 'normal' things are off limits, e.g. I could never to go a club or a loud party because I would be so awkward and not have a clue what to do. It's also true that we can find it difficult to process things. However most of us wouldn't find it difficult to process the most basic things like how to wash a pot, certainly not by Anne's age, but even if we did, most of us would take two minutes to process it and then join in with the rest of the group once we're ready.

Sorry for the long post. I am just frustrated because I think she is using the autism card either because she is lazy or because she wants sympathy, and it's annoying me because I don't want the whole country to think we're all like that. There are some things that I can understand. I would find the first day or two in the jungle difficult to cope with too, just as Anne did. I'd definitely hide it from the others and I wouldn't want to show other people that I was struggling but if Anne wanted to express herself in that way then so be it, we all deal with things differently. But I think she takes the piss a bit sometimes.

My thinking to as you rightly say she leads a near normal life, keeping down a trying tv job in front of millions ,lives alone ,so no support but coming over very needy with her campmates ,and don't forget Anne didnt check to see if she had aspergers until she was in her 40s

[Denver]

How is she using the Autism card?

[Marsh.]

I am not confused, you are confused. I didn't watch last nights episode, but I did watch the previous one. As I mentioned in my first post. And in my first post I said that she didn't participate in basic tasks like washing the pots, and her not participating was discussed in the wider context of her not being able to process it because of her diagnosis. And I am saying that I believe that to be false.

You watching her not participating in pot washing is not the same as her "refusing" to do anything.

You've taken a clip and made a mountain of assumptions based on it.

She didn't excuse herself from pot washing on the basis of autism. She said social etiquette doesn't always come naturally to her so it just wouldn't occur to her in a group setting to join when tasks are being carried out.

Her struggling with menial household chores was a separate context where she discussed how housework can build up to a point where she finds it overwhelming to start tackling it all and finds it hard to start logically working through a list of chores.

Not once has she said she can't wash a pot because she has Aspergers.

[Parmy]

lets hope she dont start cooking (not that the lazy cow will) i dont fancy days old sweat dripping into my kangaroo stew.

[Niamh.]

lets hope she dont start cooking (not that the lazy cow will" i dont fancy days old sweat dripping into my kangaroo stew.

Are you going in? :o

[Marsh.]

My thinking to as you rightly say she leads a near normal life, keeping down a trying tv job in front of millions ,lives alone ,so no support but coming over very needy with her campmates ,and don't forget Anne didnt check to see if she had aspergers until she was in her 40s

"Didn't check"?

You act as though it's like popping online to check your bank balance.

She was diagnosed because a woman who was assessing her for financial support saw her struggling to even keep up with basic tasks at home, which included seeing a councellor which led to her diagnosis.

But I'm sure Professor Chuff is more qualified in this field. Is she supposed to wake up one day and think "Omg you know I must be on the autistic spectrum".

[chuff me dizzy]

lets hope she dont start cooking (not that the lazy cow will) i dont fancy days old sweat dripping into my kangaroo stew.

She's had the same black smudge mark on her boobs since night one ,mind you without someone offers to shower her it could be there until the end of the series

[mxhunter]

You watching her not participating in pot washing is not the same as her "refusing" to do anything.

You've taken a clip and made a mountain of assumptions based on it.

No, you're wrong yet again. I watched an episode and saw her not do basic tasks like wash pots. I also saw the rest of the group facilitate that and tell her not to worry about washing the pots, and all these things were explained on the show as being because she has Aspergers and can't process these tasks and I am saying from my own perspective that I believe that to be incorrect.

But continue to dismiss everything I say because I used the wrong word. I didn't realise I had to put significant thought and effort into typing out the perfect post on this site. One of the things that those of us with Aspergers are taught by doctors and others is not to focus too intensely on one fact, to look more broadly.

[mxhunter]

"Didn't check"?

You act as though it's like popping online to check your bank balance.

She was diagnosed because a woman who was assessing her for financial support saw her struggling to even keep up with basic tasks at home, which included seeing a councellor which led to her diagnosis.

But I'm sure Professor Chuff is more qualified in this field. Is she supposed to wake up one day and think "Omg you know I must be on the autistic spectrum".

And are you any more qualified yourself, Professor Marsh? You're awfully quick to dismiss people and not consider other perspectives. Are you a doctor?

[reece(:]

Yall really going to sit behind your computers mocking this woman with her ongoing battle?
Shameful :umm2:

[Marsh.]

No, you're wrong yet again. I watched an episode and saw her not do basic tasks like wash pots. I also saw the rest of the group facilitate that and tell her not to worry about washing the pots, and all these things were explained on the show as being because she has Aspergers and can't process these tasks and I am saying from my own perspective that I believe that to be incorrect.

But continue to dismiss everything I say because I used the wrong word. I didn't realise I had to put significant thought and effort into typing out the perfect post on this site. One of the things that those of us with Aspergers are taught by doctors and others is not to focus too intensely on one fact, to look more broadly.

It's not just about the word you've taken it all out of context.

At which point did she actually refuse to wash a pot or other campmates said "don't do anything Anne" or it could be that, considering she'd had an emotional day at that point when she was struggling to adjust that they allowed her to keep herself to herself that night.

But, yeah, let's twist her words and throw the "autism card" at her.

[Marsh.]

And are you any more qualified yourself, Professor Marsh? You're awfully quick to dismiss people and not consider other perspectives. Are you a doctor?

This might be a witty comeback if it was at all relevant.

"She's using autism as an excuse let's not forget she didn't bother to check if she had it until her 40s"

Is not "another perspective" it's plain ignorance.

[Marsh.]

She's had the same black smudge mark on her boobs since night one ,mind you without someone offers to shower her it could be there until the end of the series

Well this is a lie since we saw her washing in the creek with Rita and later washing again after completing her trial before moving to the next camp.

But yes mock a woman for not being spotless when she's camping in a jungle. :umm2:

[chuff me dizzy]

And are you any more qualified yourself, Professor Marsh? You're awfully quick to dismiss people and not consider other perspectives. Are you a doctor?

Dont rise to it

[glibberglobber]

How dare you have the audacity to say Anne left the trial because her "autism pushed her too far"

[Mitchell]

"Didn't check"?

You act as though it's like popping online to check your bank balance.

She was diagnosed because a woman who was assessing her for financial support saw her struggling to even keep up with basic tasks at home, which included seeing a councellor which led to her diagnosis.

But I'm sure Professor Chuff is more qualified in this field. Is she supposed to wake up one day and think "Omg you know I must be on the autistic spectrum".

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