Nigel Farage bids to topple UKIP leader Gerard Batten over Tommy Robinson role

[arista]

Batten is in Charge
not Farage


As for Robinson
he is loving this, new role


At this time UKIP have No MP's

https://news.sky.com/story/tommy-robinson-becomes-adviser-to-ukip-leader-gerard-batten-11560682

[user104658]

Ewwwww arista I can't handle that many dirty names in one thread title :nono:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Should be interesting

[arista]

Ewwwww arista I can't handle that many dirty names in one thread title :nono:


Yes its a waste of time
UKIP are on their own
and not taking orders

[MTVN]

Batten is a nutjob

[arista]

BBCnewsHD interviewed Batten
on a roof near Parliament AM today.

He said he is setting up a Pro Brexit Means Exit March
for May 9th , 2019.

[Alf]

Batten is a nutjobHe's quite an intelligent guy as it happens. Watch his interview with Sargon, and you'll see that he knows his stuff.

People who actually belive that there's more than 2 genders, now they could rightfully be described as nut jobs, but you dare not call them it.

[user104658]

Nutjob doesn't mean stupid Alf. There have been countless intelligent, even hyper-intelligent, total nutjobs throughout history.

[Twosugars]

Nutjob doesn't mean stupid Alf. There have been countless intelligent, even hyper-intelligent, total nutjobs throughout history.

educate ha :)

[Scarlett.]

How many times has Farage been leader of UKIP now?

[arista]

How many times has Farage been leader of UKIP now?


3 or 5 times
He is no longer going to be a Leader of a Party
though

[Nicky91]

3 or 5 times
He is no longer going to be a Leader of a Party
though

too stressful for him i think

[Tom4784]

Tommy Robinson only cares about himself and furthering his own agenda through misinformation. UKIP has struggled a lot with members that are outright racists and bigots and inviting him to join would only damage them further.

Farage is right to oppose his inclusion but in truth, UKIP needs to die. It achieved it's raison d'être by securing a leave win in the referendum and it's bleeding of seats in the last election shows that they are no longer needed. Better that than to keep flogging a dead horse with increasingly worse party leaders.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tommy Robinson only cares about himself and furthering his own agenda through misinformation. UKIP has struggled a lot with members that are outright racists and bigots and inviting him to join would only damage them further.

Farage is right to oppose his inclusion but in truth, UKIP needs to die. It achieved it's raison d'être by securing a leave win in the referendum and it's bleeding of seats in the last election shows that they are no longer needed. Better that than to keep flogging a dead horse with increasingly worse party leaders.

"Better that than to keep flogging a dead horse with increasingly worse party leaders"


like the Libs


like labour


like the Conservatives


:idc:

[Twosugars]

ukip=the worst of british
bury that stinking corpse in an unmarked grave and salt the earth :D

[Maru]

How many times has Farage been leader of UKIP now?

Me when Clinton runs for President again

That's become common in politics. There is usually a "dynasty" of folk who continue to rotate in and out of positions at the top of list and aren't friendly to newcomers. I remembering wishing both our parties would at least begin to pass on the baton already before half of them kick the bucket, but that's "not in the party's interest".

[Twosugars]

Me when Clinton runs for President again

That's become common in politics. There is usually a "dynasty" of folk who continue to rotate in and out of positions at the top of list and aren't friendly to newcomers. I remembering wishing both our parties would at least begin to pass on the baton already before half of them kick the bucket, but that's "not in the party's interest".

Hope you said the same about Bush

[Maru]

Hope you said the same about Bush

Bush, Kennedy, Clinton, etc... yeah, they are considered the dynasties here politically.

[Alf]

Bush, Kennedy, Clinton, etc... yeah, they are considered the dynasties here politically.And it was supposed to be Bush vs Clinton last time, but Trump got in the way and upset the status quo, and that's why he's treat as an imposter. The USA wasn't supposed to elect a president, they was supposed to elect a monarch.

[Maru]

And it was supposed to be Bush vs Clinton last time, but Trump got in the way and upset the status quo, and that's why he's treat as an imposter. The USA wasn't supposed to elect a president, they was supposed to elect a monarch.

Clinton paid the way for the DNC (in her words) because they'd been struggling financially. I guess if the dynasties help keep the money flowing, then there's no reason to rock that boat. However, Americans can't really complain as much about the choice in candidates on the ticket (aside from when Bernie was screwed) though as we vote democratically who will be at the top of the party ticket. So in this case I was mainly referring to internal politics.

Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

I had promised Bernie when I took the helm of the Democratic National Committee after the convention that I would get to the bottom of whether Hillary Clinton’s team had rigged the nomination process, as a cache of emails stolen by Russian hackers and posted online had suggested. I’d had my suspicions from the moment I walked in the door of the DNC a month or so earlier, based on the leaked emails. But who knew if some of them might have been forged? I needed to have solid proof, and so did Bernie.

So I followed the money. My predecessor, Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, had not been the most active chair in fundraising at a time when President Barack Obama’s neglect had left the party in significant debt. As Hillary’s campaign gained momentum, she resolved the party’s debt and put it on a starvation diet. It had become dependent on her campaign for survival, for which she expected to wield control of its operations.

Fastforward to mid-terms and Pelosi is having an issue getting the votes to take back the speakership because the new, more progressive Democrats are willing to buck tradition and go against their party's establishment. Who knows if that will hold though and if tradition will continue.

But yeah, Jeb... he wouldn't have been many people's first choice. Too stoic for one, but when he does speak, it comes off as overly contrived. :skull: Voters are finally getting tired of political dynasties I think.

So back to Nigel, is he considered establishment or a disruptor? Guessing by this quote, he's the not the latter:

He accused Mr Batten of having a "fixation with Tommy Robinson and discussing Islam, and dragging UKIP into a direction of effectively being a, sort of, street activist party".