Baby It's Cold Outside pulled by radio station, citing #MeToo

[Oliver_W]

It's a Christmas classic probably being played in shops and radio stations all over the world. (c)

But a radio station in Cleveland, Ohio has decided to remove Baby It's Cold Outside from its playlist following complaints from listeners.

Local media report that listeners said the song was inappropriate and at odds with the #MeToo movement.

But a poll on the station's Facebook page showed a majority of respondents did not want the song banned.

Glenn Anderson, a host at the Star 102 station, blogged that although the song was written in a different era, the lyrics felt "manipulative and wrong".

"The world we live in is extra sensitive now, and people get easily offended, but in a world where #MeToo has finally given women the voice they deserve, the song has no place."

The tune takes the form of a back-and-forth conversation where a man tries to persuade his female guest not to risk the journey home in bad weather, but to have another drink and spend the night with him instead.

When this was trending on Twitter, the decision was being almost universally mocked and derided, which is refreshing. It's just a bit of a shame that some lonely cat-obsessed lesbians decided to get a Christmas staple banned from the station.

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[user104658]

To be fair the lyrics are hilariously dodgy :joker:... But as always, it wasn't written yet aterday and "banning history" because it doesn't fit with modern society is daft.

I also do worry about whether or not baby would have died if she had tried to walk home because it sounds like it was a real risk :worry:.

[user104658]

It can also never beat "Young Girl" :umm2:

[Lostie!]

Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!

[user104658]

Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!:joker: "Say, what's in this drink?" is maybe the most disturbing lyric in the song.

"What's the sense in hurtin' my pride" is up there though!

[Smithy]

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[Liam-]

Not a war on Christmas :omgno:

[Epic.]

This pissed me off. The song may sound a little severe out of context but it was never intended to be a Christmas song about sexual assault. Anything can be twisted for it to sound bad. It's like banning Santa Claus because 'he sees children when they're sleeping or awake, he knows when they've been good or bad' and that he climbs down chimneys in the middle of the night. See how wrong it sounds with a negative spin on it? This is just another overblown unnecessary decision

[Livia]

Good grief...

[bots]

they will be banning this next

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[Livia]

Yeah! Chevalier's obviously a paedo. It's disgusting how those old songs are so dodgy. I'm glad we now live in a time where that kind of thing doesn't happen.

Meanwhile, I'm off to listen to Smack My Bitch Up my Prodigy.

[Maru]

I think the true offense here is the song contains the most triggering word of all: "outside"...

Have we already forgotten this gem?

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[James]

I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.

[Alf]

Hey, me too movement, why don't you fook off!

[user104658]

I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.To play devil's advocate though, the "current ideal" is that no pressure of any kind should be applied after a "no", no matter what the reason for saying no (and one valid reason would be public perception). No means no and all that.

And I guess the logic in not allowing it to be played now would be worries that, even though the song is from anothet era, the lyrics could still be seen to normalise "applying gentle pressure" and "the game / chase" aspect of things (i.e. The pursuer believing that, although the pursuee has said no, they really do want to and just need to be convinced to say yes).


That said I think it's massively over thinking the issue and no one is realistically getting life lessons from old crimbo bops.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Little Mix to release a anti Christmas album called

"Mary , my Hoe years in Nazareth"

track one being "God, suck my dick, you gender neutral sexist PIG"?

[Tom4784]

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Pretty much.

[montblanc]

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yup happens every day

[Marsh.]

Good.

Have never been able to abide it, especially the Tom Jones version.

[Marsh.]

When this was trending on Twitter, the decision was being almost universally mocked and derided, which is refreshing. It's just a bit of a shame that some lonely cat-obsessed lesbians decided to get a Christmas staple banned from the station.


And your wide-of-the-mark sexist and homophobic diatribe is allowed?

[Marsh.]

Tom Jones trying to date rape Cerys Matthews on VH1 is a bloody Christmas tradition!

:joker::joker::joker:

[Marsh.]

Yeah! Chevalier's obviously a paedo. It's disgusting how those old songs are so dodgy. I'm glad we now live in a time where that kind of thing doesn't happen.

Meanwhile, I'm off to listen to Smack My Bitch Up my Prodigy.

That's also going on 20 years old. Showing your age. :hehe:

[Maru]

I've read that it is being misinterpreted now, and the song is not about coercion, but rather the woman is worried about damaging her reputation if she stayed with the man -as that was the social convention at the time.

And the line 'What's in this drink?' was a common phrase then, that means something different from what it sounds like now.

Yeah I remember that phrase from watching classics. I actually like the song even if it seems a bit extra cheesy (to me).

[Elliot]

Mariah Carey invented Christmas all the other flops could never!

[Oliver_W]

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Not a war on Christmas :omgno:

Nice strawmanning. No-one sensible is using this as an example of the "regressive left" or "war on Christmas", I've only heard the decision being derided as bloody stupid in its own right.

[Alf]

The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

[montblanc]

The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

whew

[Underscore]

Victory :cheer2:

[Elliot]

why are people so keen on holding on to some tired rapey christmas song? does it really mean that much to you?

[Marsh.]

The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

Which women?

[Alf]

Which women?Feminazis

[Marsh.]

Nice strawmanning. No-one sensible is using this as an example of the "regressive left" or "war on Christmas", I've only heard the decision being derided as bloody stupid in its own right.

Pointing out that Fox News IS using it as some example of the extreme left is straw-manning? No.

[Underscore]

#proudfeminazi

[Marsh.]

Feminazis

Such a misused word.

[Oliver_W]

Pointing out that Fox News IS using it as some example of the extreme left is straw-manning? No.

So you think Fox News is sensible? The tweet didn't include video footage, and the screencaps don't mention the extreme left.

[Marsh.]

So you think Fox News is sensible? The tweet didn't include video footage, and the screencaps don't mention the extreme left.

So?

Didn't stop you bringing lesbians into it.

[Alf]

Such a misused word.They ban, censor, surpress something new each week.

Last week it was men growing beards in November to raise money for charity that they attacked and want stopping. They even attack their own, like the grid girls and darts girls.

[Marsh.]

They ban, censor, surpress something new each week.

Last week it was men growing beards in November to raise money for charity that they attacked and want stopping. They even attack their own, like the grid girls and darts girls.

Do you call anyone who does something you don't agree with a Feminazi?

[Oliver_W]

So?

Didn't stop you bringing lesbians into it.
Yeah my doing so was about as unnecessary as Smithy's strawmanning, including that crap in my post didn't add anything.

[Alf]

Do you call anyone who does something you don't agree with a Feminazi?No, it's just the Feminazis that I call Feminazis.

[Marsh.]

No, it's just the Feminazis that I call Feminazis.

So, yes.

[Alf]

So, yes.When World War III kicks off, they'll want us men then.

[user104658]

Whats in Alf's drink?

[Marsh.]

When World War III kicks off, they'll want us men then.

Least you admit your problem is with women, not mythical "Feminazis".

[Alf]

Whats in Alf's drink?Troll juice

[Alf]

Least you admit your problem is with women, not mythical "Feminazis".No, just the women who are Feminazis. And the men who are Feminazis.

[Maru]

The only people who can challenge these vile women are the sensible women. These women are gonna make men hate women, we're already choosing homosexuality in mass numbers.

These people give you good women a bad name, you need to challenge them.

I don't really know anyone, especially with the amount of people I know well, who at all align with what "new wave" feminism preaches... in fact, I have one progressive friend who is as hippy as they come, but even she's seen in her line-of-work (which is in a psych institution) how damaging victim-mentality has been to the rehabilitation of her patients... and she lives in MD where I used to live, so it's not a demographic thing.

I think most women know instinctually what is "bad" for us. What we're dealing with instead is people who are trying to tell the rest of society how to behave... so it's more of an authoritative streak than a legitimate cultural shift. That's not even me being optimistic, but coming from an honest feeling of what it really seems to be to me...

Well, I lied, there is one girl I am getting to know, but she's very anti-Trump by her Facebook postings (not without its reason)... I'm not sure that makes someone a "progressive" or "feminazi", though.

[Maru]

Whats in Alf's drink?

Troll juice

I think it's well known by this point, that Alf absolutely is a follower of the basic Code of the Troll. :laugh: Sort of like LT is half, 3/4th of the time? Every forum has a few of them and they keep the board from becoming overly agreeable and boringly predictable.

The worst trolls are "stealth trolls" imo, because they tend to be more emotionally manipulative and "feign ignorance" with the purpose of gaslighting. I wouldn't consider LT/Alf to be stealthy at all.

[Smithy]

Nice strawmanning. No-one sensible is using this as an example of the "regressive left" or "war on Christmas", I've only heard the decision being derided as bloody stupid in its own right.

Well first of all, congrats on learning a new word and trying to shoe horn it in wherever possible and second of all it’s literally exactly what Alf is doing rn but nice try I guess

[Epic.]

why are people so keen on holding on to some tired rapey christmas song? does it really mean that much to you?

It's not even a song about rape though. That's just the connotation implication people have decided to get from it in recent memory.

I don't even really like the song that much, but that's not even why

[user104658]

I wouldn't consider LT/Alf to be stealthy at all.

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[user104658]

It's not even a song about rape though. That's just the connotation implication people have decided to get from it in recent memory.

I don't even really like the song that much, but that's not even whyIt's not "about rape" but I think we all need to accept that it is a bit rapey.

Female: "I really must gooo"
Male: "But bae it's hella snowing"
Female: "I still wanna go hooome"
Male: "Nah you'll die in the snow srsly"
Female: "I totally can't staaay"
Male: "My penis is waaaarm"
Both: "and its coooold outsiiiiddde"


He's one step away from pretending that his Netflix subscription has expired and c'mon baby what else will we do we don't wanna get bored?

[Oliver_W]

Well first of all, congrats on learning a new word and trying to shoe horn it in wherever possible and second of all it’s literally exactly what Alf is doing rn but nice try I guess
I said no-one sensible.

[Maru]

Bovine males browsing expensive crockery retailers.

Occasionally when I read while logged off I'll see LT's posts and I automatically cast as "Captain Obvious" in my head... My subconscious feels: It. just. works.

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I did make him an avatar (inadvertedly) when I was playing around with graphics during Christmas. I never posted it because it was right before I went on hiatus. :spin: It's very fitting for the season...

https://i.imgur.com/3tMZNyc.jpg

[user104658]

LT only likes avatars with large breasts. You're going to need to photoshop some boobs onto that grinch.

[Livia]

That's also going on 20 years old. Showing your age. :hehe:

LOL.... I guess. My late husband wanted that as the first dance at our wedding.

I could have chosen anything currently in the charts with an "explicit lyrics" warning. It's all nonsense...

[Livia]

why are people so keen on holding on to some tired rapey christmas song? does it really mean that much to you?

I think the problem is that some people don't understand that just because they think it's a tired rapey Christmas song, they don't have the power nor the right to dictate how others should view it.

Choosing what I listen to without anyone sticking in an oar.... that's means so much to me.

When you think of the things happening to women in the world right this minute, I don't think it's helpful to waste time and emotion over something so very trivial.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think it's well known by this point, that Alf absolutely is a follower of the basic Code of the Troll. :laugh: Sort of like LT is half, 3/4th of the time? Every forum has a few of them and they keep the board from becoming overly agreeable and boringly predictable.

The worst trolls are "stealth trolls" imo, because they tend to be more emotionally manipulative and "feign ignorance" with the purpose of gaslighting. I wouldn't consider LT/Alf to be stealthy at all.

Bovine males browsing expensive crockery retailers.

Occasionally when I read while logged off I'll see LT's posts and I automatically cast as "Captain Obvious" in my head... My subconscious feels: It. just. works.

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abu6MhmCNxqUT4I/giphy.gif

I did make him an avatar (inadvertedly) when I was playing around with graphics during Christmas. I never posted it because it was right before I went on hiatus. :spin: It's very fitting for the season...

https://i.imgur.com/3tMZNyc.jpg

LT only likes avatars with large breasts. You're going to need to photoshop some boobs onto that grinch.

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Im still here, im not bloody dead


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[Withano]

Tbh, even as a child, I always found that song quite creepy. It still sounds sinister to me. “Hey whats in this drink?!”

[Crimson Dynamo]

I find it pretty disturbing that most female pop stars cant do anything on stage except simulate sex, and often if not all the time with male black or ethnic dancers

I literally pulled off the first LIttle Mix vid on you tube and they were at it after 20 seconds

Its beyond pathetic

:umm2:

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#yearofthewoman

[user104658]

:fist:

Im still here, im not bloody dead


:oh:

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[Cherie]

This was playing in Sainburys when I was shopping earlier, can`t say I paid too much attention to the lyrics before, seems pretty tame compared to some of the song lyrics these days, but creating a fuss seems to be the thing to do these days

[Marsh.]

I find it pretty disturbing that most female pop stars cant do anything on stage except simulate sex, and often if not all the time with male black or ethnic dancers

I literally pulled off the first LIttle Mix vid on you tube and they were at it after 20 seconds

Its beyond pathetic

:umm2:

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#yearofthewoman

Why do you have such a big problem with women being sexual? :umm2:

[user104658]

Why do you have such a big problem with women being sexual? :umm2:LT was cucked by his ex wife and has trauma.

[arista]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/canadian-radio-stations-baby-it-s-cold-outside-1.4931867


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6464599/More-Canada-radio-stations-pull-Baby-Cold-Outside-amid-predatory-undertones-concerns.html


Back in the 1940's
it was fine. But USA Radio stations
have taken it off the Air in 2018

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/05/20/7057670-6464599-image-a-9_1544041013354.jpg
The MeToo group saying loads of women
have been drugged
and raped.
No wonder South Park in 2014 used Bill Cosby
trying to get Taylor Swift to drink up his doped drink


Sign Of The Times.

[arista]

Yes I need to be merged, please.

[Alf]

Another publicity stunt, for the number 1 spot?

[GoldHeart]

This was playing in Sainburys when I was shopping earlier, can`t say I paid too much attention to the lyrics before, seems pretty tame compared to some of the song lyrics these days, but creating a fuss seems to be the thing to do these days

First the pogues Fairytale of New York song and now this ! :facepalm:

Definitely fuss over nothing ! both songs are tongue in cheek and people need to chill out .

And exactly there's far worse songs out there with explicit lyrics that can't be listened to by kids .

[arista]

In a Way it shows the Damage the MeeToo
group can do.


Sadly times have changed

[Withano]

What are the worse songs that keep getting radioplay?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why do you have such a big problem with women being sexual? :umm2:

er because the audience is pre-pubescent

:umm2: