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Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 04:01 PM
Do you think she has helped or hindered the Asperger's cause (if that is a thing)

ie: her actions in the jungle, will viewers have a more positive view of the condition or a negative one? (please show your workings)

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Shaun
04-12-2018, 04:53 PM
I would perhaps stop looking at individuals as reflective of an entire demographic. The idea of there being an "Aspergers cause" rather than taking people with Aspergers to be completely different from each other is just... reductive.

Matthew.
04-12-2018, 05:00 PM
or maybe she could just be a person who happens to have Asperger’s who does not need to be defined by it?

montblanc
04-12-2018, 05:02 PM
if someone judges an entire demographic of people based on a reality show then :skull:

chuff me dizzy
04-12-2018, 05:11 PM
Hindered on a massive scale, All we've learned about her is how lazy and selfish she is

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:18 PM
yes i fear she has not achieved quite what she thought she would?

Epic.
04-12-2018, 05:19 PM
yes i fear she has not achieved quite what she thought she would?

No you don't.

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:22 PM
No you don't.

yes I read from her brother that she wanted to raise awareness, and one imagines in a positive way, but its not worked sadly

Marsh.
04-12-2018, 05:30 PM
Hindered on a massive scale

As someone who admitted you know sweet FA about aspergers/autism, you have no grounds to base this on.

ThriceShy
04-12-2018, 05:35 PM
Hindered on a massive scale, All we've learned about her is how lazy and selfish she is

She has set the autism cause back 50 years IMO. She has convinced viewers that people with autism are quitters who are too lazy to get out of bed.

Matthew.
04-12-2018, 05:36 PM
She has set the autism cause back 50 years IMO. She has convinced viewers that people with autism are quitters who are too lazy to get out of bed.

no she hasn’t don’t be so silly

ThriceShy
04-12-2018, 05:37 PM
no she hasn’t don’t be so silly

Yes she has, don't be so silly.

Rob!
04-12-2018, 05:38 PM
She has set the autism cause back 50 years IMO. She has convinced viewers that people with autism are quitters who are too lazy to get out of bed.

Hindered on a massive scale, All we've learned about her is how lazy and selfish she is

You're basing this purely on your own opinions on her having both admitted you know sweet fanny adams about aspergers.

Also, there is a lot of evidence online (if you actually take the time to look instead of just basing your opinions on ignorance) that shows that she has encouraged a lot of people with aspergers and shown them that anything is possible for them, for example, the widely publicised little boy who wrote her a letter.

ThriceShy
04-12-2018, 05:39 PM
You're basing this purely on your own opinions on her having both admitted you know sweet fanny adams about aspergers.

Also, there is a lot of evidence online (if you actually take the time to look instead of just basing your opinions on ignorance) that shows that she has encouraged a lot of people with aspergers and shown them that anything is possible for them, for example, the widely publicised little boy who wrote her a letter.

Where did I admit I know SFA about aspergers?:shrug:

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:45 PM
You're basing this purely on your own opinions on her having both admitted you know sweet fanny adams about aspergers.

Also, there is a lot of evidence online (if you actually take the time to look instead of just basing your opinions on ignorance) that shows that she has encouraged a lot of people with aspergers and shown them that anything is possible for them, for example, the widely publicised little boy who wrote her a letter.

Rob, anything is possible? are you having a laugh, and that little boy should not be watching an adult show as has been stated

Marsh.
04-12-2018, 05:46 PM
Rob, anything is possible? are you having a laugh, and that little boy should not be watching an adult show as has been stated

Omg, in case he sees Holly getting shagged up a tree??

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:48 PM
Omg, in case he sees Holly getting shagged up a tree??

No, little children need sleep to help them grow and fight disease and should not be watching Harry Rednapp tell Emily she has had a lot worse in her knickers than a cricket


:skull:

Rob!
04-12-2018, 05:48 PM
Rob, anything is possible? are you having a laugh, and that little boy should not be watching an adult show as has been stated

Take that up with the kids parents then, it has nothing to do with Anne. And I’m a Celeb is a family show anyway. What has happened over the course of the series that has been unsuitable for the under 10s?

Marsh.
04-12-2018, 05:50 PM
No, little children need sleep to help them grow and fight disease and should not be watching Harry Rednapp tell Emily she has had a lot worse in her knickers than a cricket


:skull:

I know. It's such a shame how once something has aired it's gone, if you miss it, you miss it.

If only there was a method people use to watch TV shows that they can't watch at the time it airs!! :think:

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:52 PM
I know. It's such a shame how once something has aired it's gone, if you miss it, you miss it.

If only there was a method people use to watch TV shows that they can't watch at the time it airs!! :think:

its a 1.5 hour show so i am not sure, with school, when a 10 year old boy is watching and being inspired by Anne giving up on the odd trial she can do?

Marsh.
04-12-2018, 05:54 PM
its a 1.5 hour show so i am not sure, with school, when a 10 year old boy is watching and being inspired by Anne giving up on the odd trial she can do?

Those 24 hour schools, when will they give kids TIME!!!

Rob!
04-12-2018, 05:56 PM
its a 1.5 hour show so i am not sure, with school, when a 10 year old boy is watching and being inspired by Anne giving up on the odd trial she can do?

It’s not just about the trials, it’s to do with the being completely outside of the comfort zone that is a huge issue for people with Aspergers.

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 05:57 PM
It’s not just about the trials, it’s to do with the being completely outside of the comfort zone that is a huge issue for people with Aspergers.

so is everyone there FFS


:facepalm:

chuff me dizzy
04-12-2018, 06:00 PM
yes I read from her brother that she wanted to raise awareness, and one imagines in a positive way, but its not worked sadly

Major fail

Rob!
04-12-2018, 06:09 PM
so is everyone there FFS


:facepalm:

What does that have to do with anything?

Zizu
04-12-2018, 07:18 PM
yes I read from her brother that she wanted to raise awareness, and one imagines in a positive way, but its not worked sadly



It has in the real world , just not in this fake , keyboard warrior holding pen .


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Jordan.
04-12-2018, 07:50 PM
yes i fear she has not achieved quite what she thought she would?

You say this as if she isn't getting saved by the public every night :pat:

Elliot
04-12-2018, 07:55 PM
An inspiration :clap1:

TwentyOneThrones
04-12-2018, 08:02 PM
As someone with high functioning Autism myself, and quite possibly Aspergers (I've shown cases of it but am yet to get a full diagnosis on that) I personally feel she has had a positive reflection on ppl like me. Like it or not, she has pushed herself so far out of her comfort zone and I commend that so much. I think we are forgetting that she has gone halfway across the world with a bunch of ppl she doesn't know and also challenged herself in trials. I am happy she decided to go ahead with IAC bc it's honestly heartwarming especially for someone like me to see her push herself

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 08:06 PM
As someone with high functioning Autism myself, and quite possibly Aspergers (I've shown cases of it but am yet to get a full diagnosis on that) I personally feel she has had a positive reflection on ppl like me. Like it or not, she has pushed herself so far out of her comfort zone and I commend that so much. I think we are forgetting that she has gone halfway across the world with a bunch of ppl she doesn't know and also challenged herself in trials. I am happy she decided to go ahead with IAC bc it's honestly heartwarming especially for someone like me to see her push herself

Sorry but how on earth do you know what her comfort zonecisxand what even that is?

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 08:07 PM
It has in the real world , just not in this fake , keyboard warrior holding pen .


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Evidence please not insults

Ashley.
04-12-2018, 08:18 PM
I don't see how. She is one person, on one line of a very wide spectrum, and is also completely out of her comfort zone. Not only has she been plonked in the middle of a jungle but also with a bunch of people she has probably never met before - she is in both a physical AND mental situation that I'm sure she has tried very hard to avoid. She must have all sorts going through her mind, it's no wonder she may sometimes be unable to act accordingly to what is expected of her.

Zizu
04-12-2018, 08:25 PM
Evidence please not insults



Just look around all the different threads .,


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Zizu
04-12-2018, 08:26 PM
I don't see how. She is one person, on one line of a very wide spectrum, and is also completely out of her comfort zone. Not only has she been plonked in the middle of a jungle but also with a bunch of people she has probably never met before - she is in both a physical AND mental situation that I'm sure she has tried very hard to avoid. She must have all sorts going through her mind, it's no wonder she may sometimes be unable to act accordingly to what is expected of her.



Yes , It seems so obvious to some of us ..


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Ashley.
04-12-2018, 08:30 PM
Yes , It seems so obvious to some of us ..


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Anybody who has been both watching the show and has at least a basic understanding of the disorder will know that she is doing more than her very best in there. I thought she would leave within a week.

SherzyK
04-12-2018, 08:32 PM
Anybody who has been both watching the show and has at least a basic understanding of the disorder will know that she is doing more than her very best in there. I thought she would leave within a week.

I agree. Plus, she wanted to leave to within a few days to my understanding and the fact that she’s managed this long just shows how well she’s doing

Zizu
04-12-2018, 08:51 PM
Anybody who has been both watching the show and has at least a basic understanding of the disorder will know that she is doing more than her very best in there. I thought she would leave within a week.



Well I have Aspergers and she's simply amazed me tbh


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ThatsMyUserName
04-12-2018, 08:53 PM
She has set the autism cause back 50 years IMO. She has convinced viewers that people with autism are quitters who are too lazy to get out of bed.

Thankfully I knew through my ex-wife someone with Asperger's. I certainly wouldn't call him lazy. So I know not to generically label anyone with Asperger's as lazy. It's just how Anne is.

And that also goes to show peoples ignorance of Asperger's. It's not a one-size fits all. People have it to differing degrees. Has Anne helped bring awareness, yes. Has she helped people see her in a different light, sure. I didn't know she had it and now I know I can see that behaviour come through on The Case. I always found it a bit rude, now I'll be more tolerant.

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 09:19 PM
Anybody who has been both watching the show and has at least a basic understanding of the disorder will know that she is doing more than her very best in there. I thought she would leave within a week.

You just made that up

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 09:23 PM
Thankfully I knew through my ex-wife someone with Asperger's. I certainly wouldn't call him lazy. So I know not to generically label anyone with Asperger's as lazy. It's just how Anne is.

And that also goes to show peoples ignorance of Asperger's. It's not a one-size fits all. People have it to differing degrees. Has Anne helped bring awareness, yes. Has she helped people see her in a different light, sure. I didn't know she had it and now I know I can see that behaviour come through on The Case. I always found it a bit rude, now I'll be more tolerant.

From day one every poster had made mention of the spectrum

Please read previous threads

Ant.
04-12-2018, 09:28 PM
It's a shame people's attempts to troll are so... Obvious lmao

ThriceShy
04-12-2018, 09:30 PM
Thankfully I knew through my ex-wife someone with Asperger's. I certainly wouldn't call him lazy. So I know not to generically label anyone with Asperger's as lazy. It's just how Anne is.

And that also goes to show peoples ignorance of Asperger's. It's not a one-size fits all. People have it to differing degrees. Has Anne helped bring awareness, yes. Has she helped people see her in a different light, sure. I didn't know she had it and now I know I can see that behaviour come through on The Case. I always found it a bit rude, now I'll be more tolerant.

Anne does not have one likeable personality trait. Not a single one. The only thing she is good at is quizzes.

Are you and her other supporters suggesting that I should like her because she has Autism?

Ant.
04-12-2018, 09:31 PM
Anne does not have one likeable personality trait. Not a single one. The only thing she is good at is quizzes.

Are you and her other supporters suggesting that I should like her because she has Autism?

It's a shame people's attempts to troll are so... Obvious lmao

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Ashley.
04-12-2018, 09:49 PM
You just made that up

Don't discuss forum members LT

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 10:03 PM
Don't discuss forum members LT
That makes no sense

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 10:07 PM
It's a shame people's attempts to troll are so... Obvious lmao

Look, calling people trolls isnt a get out jail card for having nothing to say, it's also against the rules

Ashley.
04-12-2018, 10:16 PM
That makes no sense

Does accusing another member of lying fall into "discussing forum members"? Or are you only passionate about that rule when you have nothing left to add?

Crimson Dynamo
04-12-2018, 10:28 PM
Does accusing another member of lying fall into "discussing forum members"? Or are you only passionate about that rule when you have nothing left to add?

No it does not

If you need any more help. Just ask

Ant.
04-12-2018, 11:22 PM
Look, calling people trolls isnt a get out jail card for having nothing to say, it's also against the rules

Then report me for it

Marsh.
04-12-2018, 11:42 PM
No it does not


Liar!

ThatsMyUserName
04-12-2018, 11:42 PM
Anne does not have one likeable personality trait. Not a single one. The only thing she is good at is quizzes.

Are you and her other supporters suggesting that I should like her because she has Autism?

Um, I don't like her. I wish she would get voted off.
I just happen to understand her behaviour more now, so I can tolerate it.

rusticgal
05-12-2018, 12:21 AM
I don't see how. She is one person, on one line of a very wide spectrum, and is also completely out of her comfort zone. Not only has she been plonked in the middle of a jungle but also with a bunch of people she has probably never met before - she is in both a physical AND mental situation that I'm sure she has tried very hard to avoid. She must have all sorts going through her mind, it's no wonder she may sometimes be unable to act accordingly to what is expected of her.


I agree with what you say to a degree...
However...she wasn't put there..she put herself into the situation. She chose to be well out of her comfort zone with people she knew she hadn't met before. It's a physical challenge to all of them. If she's tried so hard to avoid these situations it's an extreme situation to suddenly put yourself in.
She's coping...but she's coping because everyone is making it easy for her..doing everything for her and treating her like a child. It's obvious she wasn't going to be good at many of the tasks and challenges...I just feel there were things she could easily have coped with but sat back and let others get on with it.

Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:22 PM
No, little children need sleep to help them grow and fight disease and should not be watching Harry Rednapp tell Emily she has had a lot worse in her knickers than a cricket





:skull:



'arry somehow got off Scott free with that 'suggestive' comment ..

Imagine if John , Nick , James or gawd forbid Anne had said that !!

They'd be burning their effigies in the streets of this very forum !!


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Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:24 PM
As someone with high functioning Autism myself, and quite possibly Aspergers (I've shown cases of it but am yet to get a full diagnosis on that) I personally feel she has had a positive reflection on ppl like me. Like it or not, she has pushed herself so far out of her comfort zone and I commend that so much. I think we are forgetting that she has gone halfway across the world with a bunch of ppl she doesn't know and also challenged herself in trials. I am happy she decided to go ahead with IAC bc it's honestly heartwarming especially for someone like me to see her push herself



Excellent points !!


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Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:24 PM
I don't see how. She is one person, on one line of a very wide spectrum, and is also completely out of her comfort zone. Not only has she been plonked in the middle of a jungle but also with a bunch of people she has probably never met before - she is in both a physical AND mental situation that I'm sure she has tried very hard to avoid. She must have all sorts going through her mind, it's no wonder she may sometimes be unable to act accordingly to what is expected of her.



Again some excellent points !


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Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:27 PM
Thankfully I knew through my ex-wife someone with Asperger's. I certainly wouldn't call him lazy. So I know not to generically label anyone with Asperger's as lazy. It's just how Anne is.



And that also goes to show peoples ignorance of Asperger's. It's not a one-size fits all. People have it to differing degrees. Has Anne helped bring awareness, yes. Has she helped people see her in a different light, sure. I didn't know she had it and now I know I can see that behaviour come through on The Case. I always found it a bit rude, now I'll be more tolerant.



As a fellow Aspergers .. I soon realised that I was the prince of procrastination something that is completely out of my control- even though I know when I'm doing it !!

Crazy !


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Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:28 PM
You just made that up



That's harsh tbh


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Zizu
05-12-2018, 07:28 PM
Anne does not have one likeable personality trait. Not a single one. The only thing she is good at is quizzes.



Are you and her other supporters suggesting that I should like her because she has Autism?



That's unreasonably harsh !


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