Corbyn calls PM 'stupid woman' in Commons row

[arista]

The Problem is
the Speaker did not see it.
Like a WWE Ref.


Corbyn says he said "Stupid People"


https://news.sky.com/story/pmqs-theresa-may-and-jeremy-corbyn-clash-for-final-time-in-2018-11585787

[@RobLowe
FYI- I have to say, I saw Jeremy Corbin call the Prime Minister a “stupid woman”
with my own eyes watching on @SkyNewsPolitics]
https://twitter.com/RobLowe

[Livia]

He's a dick.

[joeysteele]

He could have said a lot worse I'd have agreed with.
He didn't actually say it to her, he muttered it under his breath.
If he even said woman that is.
I would guess he did say people, more at the ignorant idiots behind her cheering her.

If I was pulled up for just what I mouthed about someone, I'd be in bother every day.

She was acting stupid, she always does at PMQs, under her more than any other PM ever, she has turned PMQs into a farcical joke.

Not funny, just stupidly pathetic.

[smudgie]

He definitely said woman.
Just apologise and get on with it.:shrug:

[joeysteele]

He definitely said woman.
Just apologise and get on with it.:shrug:

Why.

She is a woman and was being stupid.

If a man acted the same way he'd be a rightly stupid man.

Respect goes both ways, she is regularly disrespectful to him.
I call her a lot worse than just stupid, believe me.

[Cherie]

Why.

She is a woman and was being stupid.

If a man acted the same way he'd be a rightly stupid man.

Respect goes both ways, she is regularly disrespectful to him.
I call her a lot worse than just stupid, believe me.

To say this in Parliament is beyond a joke, if you called a colleague a stupid man or stupid woman in a work situation you would be up on a disciplinary

[joeysteele]

To say this in Parliament is beyond a joke, if you called a colleague a stupid man or stupid woman in a work situation you would be up on a disciplinary

He didn't say it.
He was sitting down, he wasn't addressing the house.

Honestly.
Do you think all MPs of all Parties don't mouth things to each other while not speaking to the whole house.
Pathetic and ridiculous.,

That's tripe too re disciplinary.
I've been called stupid in my work and I've said it to others.

Since when did stupid become a banned word for goodness sake.

[The Slim Reaper]

We've just told most of the world they aren't welcome to live here, and that's cheered from the rooftops, but Corbyn is rude?

People need a mirror held up to their own ugly xenophobia, racism, and attitudes towards "the other" before judging anyone else.

[reece(:]

Nonsense news, just used as a distraction to the Tories current chaos...

[joeysteele]

Nonsense news, just used as a distraction to the Tories current chaos...

Exactly right reece.

[Matthew.]

did he lie though

[Withano]

He says a lot of correct things, bet the PC snowflakes wont like this though.

[arista]

Nonsense news, just used as a distraction to the Tories current chaos...


Trouble is
its gone Worldwide , now

[Livia]

We've just told most of the world they aren't welcome to live here, and that's cheered from the rooftops, but Corbyn is rude?

People need a mirror held up to their own ugly xenophobia, racism, and attitudes towards "the other" before judging anyone else.

People have been asking Labour to do just that for the last couple of years. But they don't want to.

[Tom4784]

Nonsense news, just used as a distraction to the Tories current chaos...

Yup, it's exactly like how Trump and his supporters still bang on about Hillary years after the election. Trump wants to distract and scapegoat while his supporters want to delude themselves into thinking they made a good choice. People who focus on everything Corbyn does tend to do so because they regret their choices. Brexit is ****ed and the Brexit Camp's choice of party are the ones that ****ed it up. People don't want to own up to their mistakes so they'll just ignore all that **** and overanalyse everything the opposition does instead.

Trouble is
its gone Worldwide , now

We live in a world where a fake story about Santa being a woman/non-binary goes viral, people don't care about facts or relevance as long as they have a reason to be angry at something they dislike.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sexist pig

Image what he would have called her if she was Jewish

D:

[Livia]

He said it. It was heard. The leader of the opposition called the prime minister a "stupid woman". Of course, Corbyn supporters will think he's justified.

[arista]

Corbyn went back into the chamber
and said the words he said are "Stupid People"


So the case is now Closed in Parliament
trouble is ever News and Radio at the start at 5PM in he UK is starting with this story
MANY not even bothering to show the Update


Well Done Ch5HD news at 4:45PM for showing the Full Reply from the Labour Leader

[Tom4784]

He said it. It was heard. The leader of the opposition called the prime minister a "stupid woman". Of course, Corbyn supporters will think he's justified.

'Let's not think about all the ways we are ****ed, let's focus on everything the opposition is doing! Don't need to acknowledge my mistakes when I can reach for things to blame the opposition for instead!'

[Oliver_W]

Corbyn went back into the chamber
and said the words he said are "Stupid People"


So the case is now Closed

Oh yeah case closed, he'd have no reason to lie, he's so trustworthy.

[arista]

Oh yeah case closed, he'd have no reason to lie, he's so trustworthy.



Once he says it Parliament
it is now Case Closed

[Livia]

'Let's not think about all the ways we are ****ed, let's focus on everything the opposition is doing! Don't need to acknowledge my mistakes when I can reach for things to blame the opposition for instead!'

Are you trying to debate with me? Because your post reads like waaah waaahh I hate the Tories. And of course we must focus on what the opposition is doing because frankly they're not fit to run a bath let alone a country, and the Tories are only marginally better right now. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that I think it was a remarkably stupid thing for him, in his position, to say.

[Withano]

I guess we just have to ban adjectives now so the snowflakes dont get offended :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I guess we just have to ban adjectives now so the snowflakes dont get offended :umm2:

In order for meaningful debate to he had there a re protocols and standards of behaviour. This is not a street or a pub.

[Withano]

In order for meaningful debate to he had there a re protocols and standards of behaviour. This is not a street or a pub.

Evidently. It mustve been a cotton wool covered safe space.

[Livia]

Evidently. It mustve been a cotton wool covered safe space.

Or maybe just be respectful of other people?

[Withano]

Or maybe just be respectful of other people?

Not seen much respect in that place before. But i cba to have this argument.

Some people want safe spaces and be able to use any excuse to hide away from the things that actually matter and some people want to actually see the important matters progress.

Its not worth arguing, just two differences of opinions here. I’m just not snowflakey enough.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is no place in society for misogyny

And this the year of the woman too

[Tom4784]

Are you trying to debate with me? Because your post reads like waaah waaahh I hate the Tories. And of course we must focus on what the opposition is doing because frankly they're not fit to run a bath let alone a country, and the Tories are only marginally better right now. Everyone's entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that I think it was a remarkably stupid thing for him, in his position, to say.

If you've got that from my post then you should read it again, not only did you miss the point but you got it completely wrong.

I'm saying it's a distraction, a smokescreen. If he actually used a slur of some sort then I could understand the outrage but as it stands, it's just faux outrage from people who don't want to face up to what their votes have brought upon themselves.

People who voted Leave AND Tory have ****ed themselves and no amount of ignoring the government's mistakes in favour to focus on the opposition is going to change that.

Better to focus on the present and real dangers rather than pretend to be outraged over fluff.

[arista]

Despite all news showing it,
Corbyn later confirmed he only said "Stupid People"
So Parliament accepts it.

[Matthew.]

There is no place in society for misogyny

And this the year of the woman too

misogyny? mess, get a grip :joker:

if theresa had said “stupid man” about jeremy would that have been misandry?

[Tom4784]

misogyny? mess, get a grip :joker:

if theresa had said “stupid man” about jeremy would that have been misandry?

No because she's a tory so the people pretending to be outraged about this would have ignored it.

It's a dumb thing to get upset about either way but the truth is, the people calling foul on this aren't actually bothered about it, they just want a reason to rage about the opposition.

[Matthew.]

No because she's a tory so the people pretending to be outraged about this would have ignored it.

It's a dumb thing to get upset about either way but the truth is, the people calling foul on this aren't actually bothered about it, they just want a reason to rage about the opposition.

exactly :clap1:

[Livia]

Not seen much respect in that place before. But i cba to have this argument.

Some people want safe spaces and be able to use any excuse to hide away from the things that actually matter and some people want to actually see the important matters progress.

Its not worth arguing, just two differences of opinions here. I’m just not snowflakey enough.

Do you have some kind of thing going where you have to mention the word snowflake in every post? Or is it, like, ten "snowflakes" a day...?


If you've got that from my post then you should read it again, not only did you miss the point but you got it completely wrong.

I'm saying it's a distraction, a smokescreen. If he actually used a slur of some sort then I could understand the outrage but as it stands, it's just faux outrage from people who don't want to face up to what their votes have brought upon themselves.

People who voted Leave AND Tory have ****ed themselves and no amount of ignoring the government's mistakes in favour to focus on the opposition is going to change that.

Better to focus on the present and real dangers rather than pretend to be o
outraged over fluff.

Yes the Tories have turned Brexit into a monumental cluster ****. That doesn't mean I can't be disappointed when one professional politician tells another professional politician that she's a stupid woman. That's what this is about.

[Livia]

No because she's a tory so the people pretending to be outraged about this would have ignored it.

It's a dumb thing to get upset about either way but the truth is, the people calling foul on this aren't actually bothered about it, they just want a reason to rage about the opposition.

Dezzy knowing the workings of everyone's mind.

[Withano]

Do you have some kind of thing going where you have to mention the word snowflake in every post? Or is it, like, ten "snowflakes" a day...?
.

Haven’t used the word in ages. But this has obviously triggered the snowflakes, its not like im using it out of context :hee:

[MTVN]

Disrespectful, rude, derogatory and a little bit sexist

[arista]

Disrespectful, rude, derogatory and a little bit sexist


He Said he only said "Stupid People"

[Livia]

Disrespectful, rude, derogatory and a little bit sexist

In a nutshell.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's well known the man is a woman hater so why people are surprised

[Livia]

Haven’t used the word in ages. But this has obviously triggered the snowflakes, its not like im using it out of context :hee:

Do you think I'm a snowflake? LOL... that's hilarious.

[Tom4784]

Do you have some kind of thing going where you have to mention the word snowflake in every post? Or is it, like, ten "snowflakes" a day...?




Yes the Tories have turned Brexit into a monumental cluster ****. That doesn't mean I can't be disappointed when one professional politician tells another professional politician that she's a stupid woman. That's what this is about.

Be honest with yourself though, if the genders were reversed would you be making such a big deal out of it? If she called him a stupid man, I would not blink. I certainly wouldn't raise up a stink about it considering how much her government have ****ed up in ways that matter. Getting upset over someone being called a stupid man or woman is pointless and it's just another distraction.

Parliament's too concerned with one-upping each other in the press and scoring points when a deadline looms ahead and we're no closer to having anything resembling a plan. This whole story and the faux outrage that comes with it is just another attempt at getting the nation to focus elsewhere.

[Mitchell]

It really looked like stupid people to me, but obviously it’s open to interpretation. I dont recall seeing this outrage when David Mundell told Yvette Cooper to ‘shut up, bitch’

[MTVN]

Corbyn has previous for this sort of behaviour of course

ho69gK8BbZY

[Livia]

Be honest with yourself though, if the genders were reversed would you be making such a big deal out of it? If she called him a stupid man, I would not blink. I certainly wouldn't raise up a stink about it considering how much her government have ****ed up in ways that matter. Getting upset over someone being called a stupid man or woman is pointless and it's just another distraction.

Parliament's too concerned with one-upping each other in the press and scoring points when a deadline looms ahead and we're no closer to having anything resembling a plan. This whole story and the faux outrage that comes with it is just another attempt at getting the nation to focus elsewhere.

I am always honest with myself. And with everyone else.

I wouldn't get annoyed at someone calling him a stupid man. But if a Tory called a female Labour MP a stupid woman I'd be just as annoyed. And it wouldn't matter what else was going on in the world. All the time women are a minority in parliament it would annoy me.

[MTVN]

Talking about whether it would be as bad if the genders were reversed misses the point that women are under-represented in Parliament and have always been subject to discrimination and harassment in Westminster by men who have no respect for them, comments like 'stupid woman' are rooted in that culture

[Tom4784]

Dezzy knowing the workings of everyone's mind.

Nah, only the ones that let their outrage rule their sense.

[Livia]

Nah, only the ones that let their outrage rule their sense.

You haven't comprehended a word I've said. Shame.

[Livia]

Talking about whether it would be as bad if the genders were reversed misses the point that women are under-represented in Parliament and have always been subject to discrimination and harassment in Westminster by men who have no respect for them, comments like 'stupid woman' are rooted in that culture

That's exactly it. Party politics doesn't come into it... It happened to be Corbyn.

[Tom4784]

I am always honest with myself. And with everyone else.

I wouldn't get annoyed at someone calling him a stupid man. But if a Tory called a female Labour MP a stupid woman I'd be just as annoyed. And it wouldn't matter what else was going on in the world. All the time women are a minority in parliament it would annoy me.

Talking about whether it would be as bad if the genders were reversed misses the point that women are under-represented in Parliament and have always been subject to discrimination and harassment in Westminster by men who have no respect for them, comments like 'stupid woman' are rooted in that culture

And a lot of those men are probably feigning outrage and offense because it suits them to do so. This isn't an issue of sexism, it's an issue of party lines, scoring points and distractions.

[Livia]

And a lot of those men are probably feigning outrage and offense because it suits them to do so. This isn't an issue of sexism, it's an issue of party lines, scoring points and distractions.

In your opinion.

[Tom4784]

You haven't comprehended a word I've said. Shame.

If you want to parrot what I've said earlier to make a point, it's generally prudent to understand the context first.

[Livia]

If you want to parrot what I've said earlier to make a point, it's generally prudent to understand the context first.

There's no need to be so rude, you know. I am not stupid and I completely understand the context.

So as not to allow this to turn into a spiteful tit-for-tat, I'll leave you thinking your opinion is the only one. I've said all I have to say and I and by it.

[Tom4784]

In your opinion.

Yes, thank you for taking the time to signify the obvious that an opinion is indeed an opinion.

Do I need to signify my opinions in future for your benefit so you don't seemingly mistake them for me pushing my thoughts as facts?

[Livia]

Yes, thank you for taking the time to signify the obvious that an opinion is indeed an opinion.

Do I need to signify my opinions in future for your benefit so you don't seemingly mistake them for me pushing my thoughts as facts?

What makes me think you don't understand that everyone's opinion is valid is the language you use and the way you intimate whomever is not of your mind is slightly stupid and missing the point.

You've done the same thing here.

[Oliver_W]

Corbyn has previous for this sort of behaviour of course

ho69gK8BbZY

Perhaps, but the term "mansplaining" is basically "patronising" for stupid people.

[Tom4784]

There's no need to be so rude, you know. I am not stupid and I completely understand the context.

So as not to allow this to turn into a spiteful tit-for-tat, I'll leave you thinking your opinion is the only one. I've said all I have to say and I and by it.

Leave the faux offense out of it.

Where have I stated that my 'opinion is the only one?' Point it out to me, defend your accusation because it looks to me like you're trying to force a narrative that I'm pushing my opinions as facts just so you can render them invalid without actually putting forth a counter argument.

You make out that I can't handle opinions that aren't my own but that seems more likely to be projection on your part.

[Livia]

Leave the faux offense out of it.

Where have I stated that my 'opinion is the only one?' Point it out to me, defend your accusation because it looks to me like you're trying to force a narrative that I'm pushing my opinions as facts just so you can render them invalid without actually putting forth a counter argument.

You make out that I can't handle opinions that aren't my own but that seems more likely to be projection on your part.

I've said all I have to say.

[Tom4784]

What makes me think you don't understand that everyone's opinion is valid is the language you use and the way you intimate whomever is not of your mind is slightly stupid and missing the point.

You've done the same thing here.

So you're overanalysing and reaching then to prove a point that doesn't exist.

You're using your own conclusions to paint what I say in a way that benefits you, I've never once said you aren't entitled to opposing opinions and I've never tried to supress your opinions either, I just respond to your views with my own.

You're the one that is once again trying to paint my opinion as something other than being an opinion so you can discredit it without effort.

[Mitchell]

Oh and 0 outrage at Nicholas Soames telling Ian Blackford to “Go back to Skye” yesterday

[Tom4784]

Oh and 0 outrage at Nicholas Soames telling Ian Blackford to “Go back to Skye” yesterday

Because Nicholas is on the right side of the party lines.

[Mitchell]

Because Nicholas is on the right side of the party lines.

Phillip Hammond has used ‘Stupid Woman’ before too!

https://youtu.be/i8VpzgGzz3I

0 people mentioning it on TiBB? Wonder why?

[Kazanne]

He's a liar aswell as a coward he definitely said woman

[joeysteele]

I'll take his word, he said stupid people.
However those who state, it would be fine for a Woman to call a man stupid but it's not acceptable for a man to call a woman stupid, is utter hypocrisy in my view.

She was being stupid, those behind her cheering her for her stupidity, were too.
Whether he said people or woman, that woman, not all women at all.
He was right on either count for me.

Perhaps she should act less infantile and ridiculous at PMQs and just concentrate on actually answering some directly.

[reece(:]

I'll take his word, he said stupid people.
However those who state, it would be fine for a Woman to call a man stupid but it's not acceptable for a man to call a woman stupid, is utter hypocrisy in my view.

She was being stupid, those behind her cheering her for her stupidity, were too.
Whether he said people or woman, that woman, not all women at all.
He was right on either count for me.

Perhaps she should act less infantile and ridiculous at PMQs and just concentrate on actually answering some directly.

:clap1::clap1::clap1::clap1:

[bots]

Members of parliament are duty bound by parliamentary rules to treat everyone in the house with respect. What Corbyn said was not respectful.

I don't actually care what he said, what it showed to me is that he is a man that loses his temper much to quickly, and that should be of great concern to everyone if he has a chance of being the next PM

[Cherie]

Members of parliament are duty bound by parliamentary rules to treat everyone in the house with respect. What Corbyn said was not respectful.

I don't actually care what he said, what it showed to me is that he is a man that loses his temper much to quickly, and that should be of great concern to everyone if he has a chance of being the next PM

He was very rattled, I don't agree with all the panto references but then this is what happens every week from both sides, so not sure why he took such exception to it today, it did look like he said 'woman', and even if he did say stupid people, he buys into that every week with his own quips

[smudgie]

Billy Liar.:joker:

[Alf]

How very Rene Artois

[joeysteele]

He's a liar aswell as a coward he definitely said woman

Oh you were there beside him then were you???

Amazing, it's thought he termed a woman stupid when she and hundreds of others on her side were anyway.
That's deemed wrong.

However you a woman can call a man a liar, and that's fine.

My god, it would be better if humans were never to speak in public again on near anything, the way things are heading.

[Jason.]

Oh you were there beside him then were you???


I read this in Kim Woodburn's voice and screeched

[Matthew.]

I read this in Kim Woodburn's voice and screeched

:joker:

[Beso]

He has bare faced lied...Not a person to be trusted, but I knew that anyway.

[Alf]

"Corbyn is a stupid man" ,"May is a stupid woman" It's OK to say that, nothing happens. If our leaders are too fragile to take that, then we are in trouble.

[Rob!]

Sexist pig

Image what he would have called her if she was Jewish

D:

Probably not a pig?

[Black Dagger]

The amount of abuse that Corbyn gets and they have the audacity to be this outraged.

[Beso]

He's a liar aswell as a coward he definitely said woman

Which is far worse than what he actually said...the snidey lying weasel.

[Rob!]

He didn’t lie, whatever he said.

I can’t believe she actually has the gall to try and take the piss out of him for false claims and promises. General election?

[Beso]

He didn’t lie, whatever he said.

I can’t believe she actually has the gall to try and take the piss out of him for false claims and promises. General election?

Rob...


He lied.:joker:

[Rob!]

Rob...


He lied.:joker:

Not when she had just been trying to get the whole of the Conservative Party to cry out “They’re behind you.”

She IS a stupid woman. You have seen the dancing?

[Beso]

Not when she had just been trying to get the whole of the Conservative Party to cry out “They’re behind you.”

She IS a stupid woman. You have seen the dancing?


Old white upper class lady can't dance shocker!!!


He lied by saying he didn't say it..even stevie wonder could tell he said it.

[LaLaLand]

Oh Jez there's no denying what you said :laugh2:

But he's right though lbr. When called out on it he should have just been like "yeah, and?" ha

[arista]

I'll take his word, he said stupid people.
However those who state, it would be fine for a Woman to call a man stupid but it's not acceptable for a man to call a woman stupid, is utter hypocrisy in my view.

She was being stupid, those behind her cheering her for her stupidity, were too.
Whether he said people or woman, that woman, not all women at all.
He was right on either count for me.

Perhaps she should act less infantile and ridiculous at PMQs and just concentrate on actually answering some directly.


Thats true.

[Beso]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_of_parliament

[Scarlett.]

So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

[Cherie]

So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So more Parliament time wasted with absolutely pointless bickering, meanwhile the Brexit clock is ticking down with 100 days to go. Parliament need to grow the **** up and start putting the needs of the country ahead of their own childish egos. That goes for ALL sides.

What time was wasted?

[user104658]

Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.

[Scarlett.]

What time was wasted?

The time they wittered on about what was said, as if it is some sort of big issue, just reprimand Corbyn or whatever and get on with actual grown up stuff instead of playground tittle tattle.

[Beso]

Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.


I can argue that the first one was a w...the way he purses his moist lips before he talks would make it look like a p as he began to say w. ....try it.:hehe:

[Ramsay]

He obviously said people

[UserSince2005]

He’s every kind of ist there is. A trump x10

[Twosugars]

Old white upper class lady can't dance shocker!!!


He lied by saying he didn't say it..even stevie wonder could tell he said it.

upper class? :laugh: since when a vicar's daughter, career politician married to a banker is upper class?

[Marsh.]

To say this in Parliament is beyond a joke, if you called a colleague a stupid man or stupid woman in a work situation you would be up on a disciplinary

Parliament is hardly bloody professional with all the jeering like schoolboys.

[Tom4784]

The amount of abuse that Corbyn gets and they have the audacity to be this outraged.

The Tories are employing Piers Morgan tactics, act like an absolute twat until someone snaps and then start clutching your pearls and pretend to be offended.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2018/12/20/03/7641942-6513547-Lip_reading_experts_consulted_by_the_Daily_Mail_re viewed_the_foo-m-57_1545275807608.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is not just a Corbyn problem... it sums up the repellent misogyny of the Hard Left

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6514247/DOMINIC-SANDBROOK-not-just-Corbyn-problem-sums-misogyny-Hard-Left.html

[Cherie]

He obviously said people

He obviously said woman

[Cherie]

The Tories are employing Piers Morgan tactics, act like an absolute twat until someone snaps and then start clutching your pearls and pretend to be offended.

It's interesting isn't it how people who are all about women and their rights and how they should be treated in the workplace suddenly do an about turn when the left is involved, same with antisemitism

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fake news anyone who has any basic understanding of phonetics and watches that video can see that the first syllable starts with a bilabial stop (a P). You could argue that the second syllable could be an M, I suppose, but unless he called her a "poman" this is flat out nonsense.

The words starts with a P. You can see it. Using your eyeballs. Most likely, "people" is exactly what he said.

99% of all the professional lip readers disagree

so i am going to go with them and my own eyes

Famous deaf percussionist Dame Evelyn Glennie, who can read lips, is quoted by BBC Radio, The Sun, the Mirror, the Express, the Guardian, the Times, and in our own report for MailOnline she was 'very certain' he had said woman.
Her comments came via Tim Johns, who produces the Jeremy Vine show on BBC radio, and who tweeted: 'I just showed Evelyn Glennie, the famous percussionist, the footage of Jeremy Corbyn in the Commons. She's deaf and can lip read. She wasn't aware of the story and her interpretation of what he said was 'stupid woman'. She says she's very certain.'
Sky News reports the consensus of a 'team' of lip readers contradicted Labour's denials, and that Mr Corbyn did indeed call the PM a 'stupid woman'. Sky says its experts, including former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.
Speaker John Bercow said he had consulted 'lip speakers' who believed the word was 'woman', but he added he himself accepted the Labour leader's denial.
West Wing actor Rob Lowe, who is deaf in one ear, also waded into the row, tweeting he had seen Mr Cobryn 'say it with his own eyes'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.

he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar


vile

[Cherie]

The time they wittered on about what was said, as if it is some sort of big issue, just reprimand Corbyn or whatever and get on with actual grown up stuff instead of playground tittle tattle.

It is a bit more important than that though isn't it especially in view of the harassment and bullying of women that goes on in the Houses of Parliament, if Corbyn feels safe enough to speak like this with a camera on him how does he act behind closed doors, the speaker as well has been accused of this so of course he didn't see anything, I agree with your point that they should be concentrating on Brexit, but given Labour said they were going to vote against any deal even before they knew what was on the table they really don't have the best interests of the country at heart, just their own interest of grasping power so even if this hadn't blown up they wouldn't be concentrating on sorting out Brexit

[Beso]

What is telling is that no labour mp is saying he didn't say it, they are all saying jeremy said he didn't say it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and arch woman hater Bercow did an Arsene Wenger

:rolleyes:

[joeysteele]

Just to throw another in the mix.
One of my friend's who is deaf and who relies strongly on lipreading and sign language.
States he said person.

So another possibility.

However, it's unbelievable the fuss over this.
Men and women are equal in society yet if she'd called him stupid, most would be howling at her with her backbenchers and voters baying for more.

So for me, nothing wrong here.
He states he didn't say woman.
He stated that to the whole house.

There's no usual personalisation against other MPs that comes from Corbyn.

However, had he stood up and yelled at her she was being stupid.
I for one would have applauded him very loudly indeed.
She's in my view,the coldest,stupidest and worst PM the UK has had in my view.
She was a disastrous Home secretary too.

Yet she gets away with turning very serious issues and concerns affecting the Nation into a pantomime farce.
You couldn't make it up.

[Kazanne]

Billy Liar.:joker:

Yes,I am half deaf smudgie so you learn to lipread a lot , it's surprising how much you pick up ,he deffo said woman.

[user104658]

99% of all the professional lip readers disagree

so i am going to go with them and my own eyes

Famous deaf percussionist Dame Evelyn Glennie, who can read lips, is quoted by BBC Radio, The Sun, the Mirror, the Express, the Guardian, the Times, and in our own report for MailOnline she was 'very certain' he had said woman.
Her comments came via Tim Johns, who produces the Jeremy Vine show on BBC radio, and who tweeted: 'I just showed Evelyn Glennie, the famous percussionist, the footage of Jeremy Corbyn in the Commons. She's deaf and can lip read. She wasn't aware of the story and her interpretation of what he said was 'stupid woman'. She says she's very certain.'
Sky News reports the consensus of a 'team' of lip readers contradicted Labour's denials, and that Mr Corbyn did indeed call the PM a 'stupid woman'. Sky says its experts, including former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.
Speaker John Bercow said he had consulted 'lip speakers' who believed the word was 'woman', but he added he himself accepted the Labour leader's denial.
West Wing actor Rob Lowe, who is deaf in one ear, also waded into the row, tweeting he had seen Mr Cobryn 'say it with his own eyes'.

Fair enough; I'll conceed being wrong on this one, however...


he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar


vile

:omgno: :omgno: :omgno: Stop the press! Politician TELLS LIE in House of Commons :joker:.

Come on LT. Even for you, this is a stretch, if telling porkies in The Commons was a sackable offence there'd be tumbleweeds in the halls. Theresa May herself would have been loaded into a cannon on the roof and fired onto the moon.

[Kazanne]

Not when she had just been trying to get the whole of the Conservative Party to cry out “They’re behind you.”

She IS a stupid woman. You have seen the dancing?

Hardly stupid,I'de like to see some on here do her job,some people must think it's a doddle,I'de hate the job and would not be clever enough to do it,but even the simplist person knows Corbyn is a liar, so if that's what you want in a PM vote for him.At least she has bottle,i'm sure if she had said it she would have admitted it.

[user104658]

Regardless it's all shameful distraction. The country is on an absolute knife-edge flirting with economic disaster, and the press is like "Ehmeged forget Brexit, he said Stupid Woman!!!" like it's the news that matters today.

Talk about shameful? It's embarrassing :umm2:.

[bots]

if an mp gets upset about being called stupid, they really shouldnt be in the job. For me this just conforms to the norm of let's get upset on her behalf because there may have been the slightest hint of sexism in his remark

I can't stand Corbyn, but his remark in itself was trivial. Losing his cool/temper so easily however, is a big problem.

[user104658]

if an mp gets upset about being called stupid, they really shouldnt be in the job. For me this just conforms to the norm of let's get upset on her behalf because there may have been the slightest hint of sexism in his remark

Well that's the thing isn't it. I doubt May herself gives a stuff that Corbyn called her a stupid woman. I also don't see how the comment is sexist; it doesn't imply that he thinks "women are stupid" at all and that's simply conjecture from people who want to be offended, and want to find persecution in every statement. If he had said "Stupid man" about any male politician, which is perfectly feasible, people would have (correctly) understood that the intended insult is "stupid". Because he said "woman" due to the fact that she is, in fact, female... it's a problem?

Is it not more of a problem that the press / the public ASSUME that "woman" is intended to be insulting even when there's no real indication of that?

[Withano]

BREAKING NEWS

She is bloody stupid, confirmed, so credit where its due b

[Crimson Dynamo]

it was very much a sexist term and the fact he muttered t when he was under pressure makes it even more revealing

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fair enough; I'll conceed being wrong on this one, however...



:omgno: :omgno: :omgno: Stop the press! Politician TELLS LIE in House of Commons :joker:.

Come on LT. Even for you, this is a stretch, if telling porkies in The Commons was a sackable offence there'd be tumbleweeds in the halls. Theresa May herself would have been loaded into a cannon on the roof and fired onto the moon.

Its not the same as a political half truth tho


Here is a man who made a sexist insult to the PM live on TV for everyone to see and when called on it he denied it.

Its as a clear an indication on what lies behind his mask as one needs

(and the deaf man at the TL's work just laughed and said "woman" when he walked in) and everyone cheered :joker: - he said he has never been so popular in his life as he was last night on da socials

[Greg!]

1075445453532135426

Niccy snapped!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nicola calls him a bare faced liar


gon yersel hen

[Nicky91]

former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.

he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar


vile


Corbyn at least is right that May is a stupid PM (with bad choices) and i think he would be a better PM, much more professional too

[joeysteele]

Hardly stupid,I'de like to see some on here do her job,some people must think it's a doddle,I'de hate the job and would not be clever enough to do it,but even the simplist person knows Corbyn is a liar, so if that's what you want in a PM vote for him.At least she has bottle,i'm sure if she had said it she would have admitted it.


You think a 60 year old woman playing daft pantomime, in a serious political questioning session to avoid answering her own indecisive behaviour and total incompetence.
Is admirable.
For goodness sake.

I find that astounding from you I really do.
This forum gets worse.

[joeysteele]

Corbyn at least is right that May is a stupid PM (with bad choices) and i think he would be a better PM, much more professional too

I'll go further, she's an idiot in my eyes.
She's intelligent but acts an idiot in the most important job in the land.

She's been deceitful all through her career, I'm mystified any but her hard-line heartless supporters, believe a word she says.

Even if he did say woman, which I can't say for sure he did or didn't as I wasn't beside him.
If he did though, I'd make sure if I got the chance, to shake his hand for doing so, as to that awful particular woman.

[James]

1075445453532135426

Niccy snapped!

Jeez, that was a horrible statement for the First Minister of Scotland to make. A bit like the stuff Trump sometimes comes out with on Twitter. It just confirms everything I think about the SNP.

And if they are going to play what-about games then they don't have a right to complain about Brexit causing havoc, when they wanted the same in 2014 with the independence referendum.

[Niamh.]

What's the rape clause?

[The Slim Reaper]

Jeez, that was a horrible statement for the First Minister of Scotland to make. A bit like the stuff Trump sometimes comes out with on Twitter. It just confirms everything I think about the SNP.

And if they are going to play what-about games then they don't have a right to complain about Brexit causing havoc, when they wanted the same in 2014 with the independence referendum.

I'm no fan of the SNP either, and that's absolutely nothing like a statement trump would make. The first point she actually makes is that he should apologise if he's in the wrong, which I think we would all mostly agree with.

She's not even partaking in bothsiderism or whataboutism, because her next point lays out clearly exactly what the priority should be because all this pearl clutching over something everyone has done is just a distraction.

You can argue about the last point all you like and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but holding a mirror up to the right/brexiteers who have nothing other than slogans, name-calling, and labels is exactly the kind of thing that should be done.

As if trump would use an accurate description of a policy position to make a point against someone else he disagrees with; and it's false to liken the two. Trump lies about everything, constantly.

[The Slim Reaper]

What's the rape clause?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39652791

[James]

What's the rape clause?

The UK government said it was changing child benefit (which is the non means-tested benefit paid to parents per child) so that a parent would only get it for their first two children.

They put a controversial clause in it saying that if a third child had been born as a result of sexual assault then the benefit would still be payed for that child. I think I've read a form has to be filled in to declare it. :conf2:

It's one of the things the SNP always bring up to say UK / Tories / Westminster Govt. are uncaring.

[bots]

Sturgeon is playing with fire there given that she turned a blind eye to the alleged abuse being carried out by Salmond

[James]

I'm no fan of the SNP either, and that's absolutely nothing like a statement trump would make. The first point she actually makes is that he should apologise if he's in the wrong, which I think we would all mostly agree with.

She's not even partaking in bothsiderism or whataboutism, because her next point lays out clearly exactly what the priority should be because all this pearl clutching over something everyone has done is just a distraction.

You can argue about the last point all you like and everyone is entitled to an opinion, but holding a mirror up to the right/brexiteers who have nothing other than slogans, name-calling, and labels is exactly the kind of thing that should be done.

As if trump would use an accurate description of a policy position to make a point against someone else he disagrees with; and it's false to liken the two. Trump lies about everything, constantly.

Well, maybe it is a bit different to Trump on reflection. I don't actually look at his Twitter account, I just see his Tweets reported sometimes.

I just think the First Minister shouldn't say things like that, but it's as much a comment on how bad politics are of Twitter as anything.

Last point I stand by - Brexit was an expression of English nationalism, as much as independence was an expression of Scottish nationalism. The two were linked and one followed on from the other (different results in the referendums obviously).

[Rob!]

former expert witness forensic lip reader Tina Lannin, have concluded the mouth shape for 'wo' for woman is unmistakeable.

he lied

he lied in parliament

he lied to save his skin, his own vanity


he is unsuitable to be the leader of a political party, indeed he is unsuitable for any type of employment that involves dealing with people

a devious liar


vile

And you say this as a conservative supporter? A party that has done nothing but lie for years?

[Nicky91]

I'll go further, she's an idiot in my eyes.
She's intelligent but acts an idiot in the most important job in the land.

She's been deceitful all through her career, I'm mystified any but her hard-line heartless supporters, believe a word she says.

Even if he did say woman, which I can't say for sure he did or didn't as I wasn't beside him.
If he did though, I'd make sure if I got the chance, to shake his hand for doing so, as to that awful particular woman.

she's doing a good job at making sure EU and UK are prepared for a possible no deal brexit, but this is just May saving her own skin with the parliament

[smudgie]

Yes,I am half deaf smudgie so you learn to lipread a lot , it's surprising how much you pick up ,he deffo said woman.

Yea Kaz.
I have good hearing but can lip read, hubby is deaf and lip reads so I give it a try.
You don’t need to lip read even, clear as day he said woman.
Can’t believe a word he says, couldnt before, but now more know him for the liar he is.

[The Slim Reaper]

Well, maybe it is a bit different to Trump on reflection. I don't actually look at his Twitter account, I just see his Tweets reported sometimes.

I just think the First Minister shouldn't say things like that, but it's as much a comment on how bad politics are of Twitter as anything.

Last point I stand by - Brexit was an expression of English nationalism, as much as independence was an expression of Scottish nationalism. The two were linked and one followed on from the other (different results in the referendums obviously).

"An expression of English Nationalism" is exactly the right phrasing and also the most worrying of phrasings. I think it's a completely different situation because we're not looking for independence as a nation because we already had/have that, which has been laid out quite clearly in all of the brexit papers. I know people like to say that we're being dictated to by brussels but that doesn't make it true.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And you say this as a conservative supporter? A party that has done nothing but lie for years?

this thread is about Corbyn and his blatant lie and misogyny which I would hope you would condemn?

[James]

As as the topic (Corbyn saying 'stupid whatever') is concerned it shows how (some) people put defending their politics - no matter what the side - above every other concern.

You see that a lot in American politics (with its entrenched divisions) with people will defend the actions of a politician they would condemn if it was on the other side.

[James]

"An expression of English Nationalism" is exactly the right phrasing and also the most worrying of phrasings. I think it's a completely different situation because we're not looking for independence as a nation because we already had/have that, which has been laid out quite clearly in all of the brexit papers. I know people like to say that we're being dictated to by brussels but that doesn't make it true.

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it. :hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it. :hee:

That's fair. Nationalism is on the rise everywhere unfortunately, and what makes it more worrying is that instead of calling it out, it's given softer labels of "economic anxiety" or "concerns about sovereignty".

[Crimson Dynamo]

Although when I say English nationalism, it should be pointed out that 39% in Scotland voted for Brexit, and I bet you a lot them voted Scottish independence too.

eg. Mr LT on here, by the looks of it. :hee:

:oh:

[Niamh.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39652791

The UK government said it was changing child benefit (which is the non means-tested benefit paid to parents per child) so that a parent would only get it for their first two children.

They put a controversial clause in it saying that if a third child had been born as a result of sexual assault then the benefit would still be payed for that child. I think I've read a form has to be filled in to declare it. :conf2:

It's one of the things the SNP always bring up to say UK / Tories / Westminster Govt. are uncaring.

Oh :/

[Tom4784]

It's interesting isn't it how people who are all about women and their rights and how they should be treated in the workplace suddenly do an about turn when the left is involved, same with antisemitism

I was waiting for someone to say that, thank you for biting.

Parliament is a jeering mess of schoolchildren tactics. Notice that, thoughout this topic, I've not condemned the Tories for their remarks that have been often numerous and, let's face it, worse, but merely stated that they are riding the outrage train to damage the opposition and that it's ultimately hypocritical.

The issue with Corbyn is an issue present within Parliament and it serves no purpose but party purposes to crucify one MP when people on all sides are guilty of the same thing. But, like I said before, I wouldn't consider someone calling me a stupid man to be a slur anymore than I'd expect it to be the other way around. If he called her a stupid bitch, that would have been a different story but as it stands, it's just more of the same playground tactics that people seem to be fine with when it's the blue side that does it but kick up false indignation when it's on the red side. This ultimately isn't an issue of sexism in this case, it's an issue of party lines and weakening an enemy through stirred up scandal when we're on the edge of the cliff with all this Brexit ****. It's a distraction.

I like how you tried to paint me as sexist and then anti-semetic (Wut?), thank you for demonstrating the disgusting tactics I've been talking about.
I'm not left, I'm a feminist and I dislike all religions equally but I don't oppose them. My views aren't simplistic as that though because life isn't black and white. I hate the tories but that doesn't mean I wouldn't agree with them if our views aligned on a subject. I despise bigotry but I'm not going to be one of those parodies that believe in cancelled culture and ultimately demean the cause by dragging people over the coals just because I can.

You're trying to put me in a box to invalidate my opinion and it's flopped because you aren't understanding where I'm coming from at all and that much is apparent by your rather strange accusations of sexism and anti-semetism.

[Scarlett.]

As as the topic (Corbyn saying 'stupid whatever') is concerned it shows how (some) people put defending their politics - no matter what the side - above every other concern.

You see that a lot in American politics (with its entrenched divisions) with people will defend the actions of a politician they would condemn if it was on the other side.

I've noticed a lot of people who would usually wheel out the old "snowflake" and "Virtue Signalling" are now suddenly aware that sexism and misogyny exist and are bad.

[Tom4784]

I've noticed a lot of people who would usually wheel out the old "snowflake" and "Virtue Signalling" are now suddenly aware that sexism and misogyny exist and are bad.

People weaponising social justice is the main reason we're sliding backwards. Too many extremists that pushed for outrage were presented as the image of social justice and the side that opposed it now have realised the benefits of faux outrage and indignation.

I've said it a few times but it's pure Piers Morgan tactics.

[GoldHeart]

The uproar of this all :facepalm: , anyone would think he called May the C word.

And I didn't realise saying "stupid woman" was the worst thing ever , what about words like "bitch" .

I bet Corbyn can be called a "stupid man " a million times a day and nobody would care :sleep: .

This has once again turned into sexism BS over spilt milk, no wonder they're in such a mess over Brexit when they focus on trivial stuff .

[Cherie]

I was waiting for someone to say that, thank you for biting.

Parliament is a jeering mess of schoolchildren tactics. Notice that, thoughout this topic, I've not condemned the Tories for their remarks that have been often numerous and, let's face it, worse, but merely stated that they are riding the outrage train to damage the opposition and that it's ultimately hypocritical.

The issue with Corbyn is an issue present within Parliament and it serves no purpose but party purposes to crucify one MP when people on all sides are guilty of the same thing. But, like I said before, I wouldn't consider someone calling me a stupid man to be a slur anymore than I'd expect it to be the other way around. If he called her a stupid bitch, that would have been a different story but as it stands, it's just more of the same playground tactics that people seem to be fine with when it's the blue side that does it but kick up false indignation when it's on the red side. This ultimately isn't an issue of sexism in this case, it's an issue of party lines and weakening an enemy through stirred up scandal when we're on the edge of the cliff with all this Brexit ****. It's a distraction.

I like how you tried to paint me as sexist and then anti-semetic (Wut?), thank you for demonstrating the disgusting tactics I've been talking about.
I'm not left, I'm a feminist and I dislike all religions equally but I don't oppose them. My views aren't simplistic as that though because life isn't black and white. I hate the tories but that doesn't mean I wouldn't agree with them if our views aligned on a subject. I despise bigotry but I'm not going to be one of those parodies that believe in cancelled culture and ultimately demean the cause by dragging people over the coals just because I can.

You're trying to put me in a box to invalidate my opinion and it's flopped because you aren't understanding where I'm coming from at all and that much is apparent by your rather strange accusations of sexism and anti-semetism.

so you admit to trolling, well done.

[Tom4784]

so you admit to trolling, well done.

What a ridiculous thing to say. How am I trolling? Defend your wild accusations for once.

You're just providing me with more examples of you trying to shut down my opinion, first you tried to brand me as a sexist and anti-semetic and now you're calling me a troll, all while conveniently ignoring the points I've made that say otherwise.

Are you actually going to bother debating my points or are you just gonna keep insulting me?

[Twosugars]

The uproar of this all :facepalm: , anyone would think he called May the C word.

And I didn't realise saying "stupid woman" was the worst thing ever , what about words like "bitch" .

I bet Corbyn can be called a "stupid man " a million times a day and nobody would care :sleep: .

This has once again turned into sexism BS over spilt milk, no wonder they're in such a mess over Brexit when they focus on trivial stuff .

:clap1:

it's bc cons sniffed a chance to mount a moral high horse
doesn't happen very often so they're making the most of it :laugh:

[joeysteele]

I actually think this issue was seized on in part by the Conservatives, particularly Andrea Leadsom to re ignite some female Conservative MPs seemingly unresolved gripes with Speaker Bercow.

[Cherie]

What a ridiculous thing to say. How am I trolling? Defend your wild accusations for once.

You're just providing me with more examples of you trying to shut down my opinion, first you tried to brand me as a sexist and anti-semetic and now you're calling me a troll, all while conveniently ignoring the points I've made that say otherwise.

Are you actually going to bother debating my points or are you just gonna keep insulting me?

Just saying what I see

[MTVN]

I actually think this issue was seized on in part by the Conservatives, particularly Andrea Leadsom to re ignite some female Conservative MPs seemingly unresolved gripes with Speaker Bercow.

Another one who called a female MP a stupid woman and is well known for presiding over a culture of bullying amongst his staff

[joeysteele]

Another one who called a female MP a stupid woman and is well known for presiding over a culture of bullying amongst his staff

For goodness sake when did stupid become a banned word.
Even if he said it, he did about one woman,not all women.

This is ridiculous even relating bullying to it.

Good grief, no one will be able to say anything soon.

Those offended by the word stupid better not watch repeats of Dads Army, Captain Mannering calls Pike 'stupid boy' every episode just about.

Mrs daft May turned PMQs into a panto scene.
Stupidly in my view.

This Country is going nuts honestly.,

[MTVN]

For goodness sake when did stupid become a banned word.
Even if he said it, he did about one woman,not all women.

This is ridiculous even relating bullying to it.

Good grief, no one will be able to say anything soon.

Those offended by the word stupid better not watch repeats of Dads Army, Captain Mannering calls Pike 'stupid boy' every episode just about.

Mrs daft May turned PMQs into a panto scene.
Stupidly in my view.

This Country is going nuts honestly.,

Except numerous people have accused Bercow of bullying in the last year and spoken of the effect it had on them, it's well known. The stupid woman comment was the tip of the iceberg for him

[Tom4784]

Just saying what I see

Well, you're perfectly entitled to be wrong and, believe me, you most definitely are.

Now, are you ever going to explain why you saw fit to brand me anti-semitic? Explain your thought process to me behind that accusation.

[brat.]

legend snapped! slaaaay the house of commons mama YAAAS!

[brat.]

have no idea about politics :p

[Matthew.]

legend snapped! slaaaay the house of commons mama YAAAS!

:joker:

[Tom4784]

legend snapped! slaaaay the house of commons mama YAAAS!

Oh no deal she better don't!

[joeysteele]

Except numerous people have accused Bercow of bullying in the last year and spoken of the effect it had on them, it's well known. The stupid woman comment was the tip of the iceberg for him

Well maybe they were being stupid women.
There's plenty stupidity in both sexes around all the time.
Most of PMQs is full of little else but stupidity every week.

I still haven't heard any valid reason for the word stupid being a now banned word by some.

Footballers too of both sexes again, playing a match and one scoring an own goal.
The other team mates better watch out for themselves if they dare say that was stupid.

Bonkers, its PC gone through the roof crazy.
Stark raving bonkers.

[GoldHeart]

:clap1:

it's bc cons sniffed a chance to mount a moral high horse
doesn't happen very often so they're making the most of it :laugh:

It's not even the moral high horse though it's PC gone mad as usual , if i was Corbyn whether you like him or not i would own it and say "YES I DID SAY STUPID WOMAN AND WHAT OF IT" :idc: , as Teresa May hasn't got a clue what she's doing as PM :bored:.

Like i said if he called her something more degrading then fair enough , but both men & women in politics can be referred to as stupid regarding their poor leadership skills and terrible decisions and their gender has nothing to do with it . I hate how suddenly it shifted from the matter at hand to sexism BS .

[Rob!]

this thread is about Corbyn and his blatant lie and misogyny which I would hope you would condemn?

How is what he said misogyny? What, a woman isn't allowed to be referred to as a woman now? :joker:

[Twosugars]

It's not even the moral high horse though it's PC gone mad as usual , if i was Corbyn whether you like him or not i would own it and say "YES I DID SAY STUPID WOMAN AND WHAT OF IT" :idc: , as Teresa May hasn't got a clue what she's doing as PM :bored:.

Like i said if he called her something more degrading then fair enough , but both men & women in politics can be referred to as stupid regarding their poor leadership skills and terrible decisions and their gender has nothing to do with it . I hate how suddenly it shifted from the matter at hand to sexism BS .

How is what he said misogyny? What, a woman isn't allowed to be referred to as a woman now? :joker:

exactly
snowflakery of the highiest order
women have every right to be stupid or called stupid, like men do

[Mystic Mock]

Tbh calling her a stupid woman is pretty mild compared to what a lot of other people have called her.

[joeysteele]

Tbh calling her a stupid woman is pretty mild compared to what a lot of other people have called her.

You are right.
She should listen more and hear what her own Party is saying in reference to her Mock.
Whatever Corbyn said, she could term it a veiled compliment in relation to the much worse terms used to describe her by a growing number in the Conservative Party.

[Beso]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that corbyn stood up and blatantly lied time and time again in regards to what he said...nobody gives a monkeys he called her a stupid woman...but the lies afterwards is a very serious issue and seems to be being swept under the carpet by tibbs left leaning members.

[Tom4784]

Why is everyone ignoring the fact that corbyn stood up and blatantly lied time and time again in regards to what he said...nobody gives a monkeys he called her a stupid woman...but the lies afterwards is a very serious issue and seems to be being swept under the carpet by tibbs left leaning members.

Hypocritical tbh, also not here for your faux indignation towards other members if you yourself are ignoring examples of tories doing the same, if not worse, than what Corbyn's been accused of.

Your post is just an excuse to attack members really and a poor excuse at that.

[Beso]

Hypocritical tbh, also not here for your faux indignation towards other members if you yourself are ignoring examples of tories doing the same, if not worse, than what Corbyn's been accused of.

Your post is just an excuse to attack members really and a poor excuse at that.

No it ain't. .I am pointing out that his lies have been ignored...start a thread about the tories if you want to discuss that...but in this thread, which is about corbyn and what he said, and the aftermath of that, then I will stick to discussing that...start a thread however and I will probably have some input on that.


Also for someone unwilling to take on board such accusations when pointed out to them you don't half mind accusing others of exactly what you do yourself, to the females of the forum.

[Elliot]

This is so rediculous. Convervatives, of all people, reaction to this makes me so glad I steer away from politics!

[Beso]

This is so rediculous. Convervatives, of all people, reaction to this makes me so glad I steer away from politics!

So you are happy for the leader of the opposition to stand up and blatantly lie to us and the house of commons.

[Micky]

So you are happy for the leader of the opposition to stand up and blatantly lie to us and the house of commons.

He lied. It was so obvious.

[GoldHeart]

This is so rediculous. Convervatives, of all people, reaction to this makes me so glad I steer away from politics!

And they have probably called May far worse things :bored: , hypocrites the LOT of them !!! :nono: .

I bet if another woman called her a "stupid woman " nobody would bat an eye lid , but because Corbyn did it then he's the big bad wolf .