Chairman of Germany's anti-migrant AfD party is 'beaten nearly to death'

[Crimson Dynamo]

Utterly disgusting, similar to ISIS or the IRA where people think they are SO right that they are willing to kill people who disagree with their blinkered worldview :bored:

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/08/08/8259286-0-image-a-29_1546936022959.jpg


Elected German politician Frank Magnitz attacked in the street
Magnitz is MP and chairman for anti-immigrant Alternative for Germany (AfD)
The party claims the assault on Magnitz was an assassination attempt


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/08/08/8258630-6568129-image-a-25_1546935645109.jpg

A German MP has been seriously injured in a 'politically motivated' gang attack in the north of the country.

Frank Magnitz, leader in Bremen of the anti-immigration populist party Alternative for Germany (AfD), was assaulted in the city centre on Monday afternoon.

The AfD party published a photo of Magnitz lying injured on a hospital bed, claiming three masked men had carried out the attack.

They hit him with a piece of wood until he was unconscious and then kicked him on the ground,' the party said in a statement, adding that a construction worker had intervened to stop the assault.

'Today is a dark day for democracy in Germany.'

Bremen Police said that 'given the victim's work, we believe that this is a politically motivated act.'

AfD leader Joerg Meuthen tweeted that Magnitz was 'beaten almost to death' in a 'cowardly and sickening' attack.

Johannes Kahrs, an MP from the Social Democrats, junior partners in the ruling coalition, said 'violence is never acceptable' and that 'extremism in any form is rubbish'. He wished Magnitz a quick recovery.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6568129/Chairman-Germanys-AfD-party-beaten-nearly-death-politically-motivated-attack.html

[arista]

Terrible
Germany is getting worse

[Nicky91]

Terrible
Germany is getting worse

doubt that, he is from anti-migrant party, so i think the one who beat him up was a refugee or someone who supports refugees


but anyway it was a amateur (very sure about that) cause professional assassins won't beat someone up, but using a gun with silencer or knife

[Crimson Dynamo]

doubt that, he is from anti-migrant party, so i think the one who beat him up was a refugee or someone who supports refugees


but anyway it was a amateur (very sure about that) cause professional assassins won't beat someone up, but using a gun with silencer or knife

how comes you know so much about assassins?

:suspect:

[Nicky91]

how comes you know so much about assassins?

:suspect:

i watch a lot of investigation discovery, history channel with that one show (unsolved history)

[Underscore]

how comes you know so much about assassins?

:suspect:

:joker:

[thesheriff443]

I think lt is on to something.

[Livia]

This is a very low-key story. I think if a bunch of Germans had beaten a refugee almost to death it would have been a lead story.

[Twosugars]

a nasty, stupid and counterproductive way of making a political point
hope he recovers fully.

[Niamh.]

This is a very low-key story. I think if a bunch of Germans had beaten a refugee almost to death it would have been a lead story.

Really? cos I never heard about this story from August at all........

https://www.thelocal.de/20180830/migrant-beaten-in-racist-attack-in-north-german-city

Why make it into a competition? anyone getting attacked like that is bad.

[Tom4784]

Honestly? I find this story very suspect, especially in the light of the recent Brazil election and how Bolsonaro pretty much only won because he was attacked.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the attackers are never found and the party bolsters in terms of support. Not saying that the victim is behind his own attack but I'd be suspicious of other people in the party.

I wouldn't say it's unrealistic to see incidents like this happen more often, an 'assassination' (bit much in this case, I don't think a would be assassin would use a piece of wood as a weapon) attempt is great for votes.

[Cherie]

Honestly? I find this story very suspect, especially in the light of the recent Brazil election and how Bolsonaro pretty much only won because he was attacked.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the attackers are never found and the party bolsters in terms of support. Not saying that the victim is behind his own attack but I'd be suspicious of other people in the party.

I wouldn't say it's unrealistic to see incidents like this happen more often, an 'assassination' (bit much in this case, I don't think a would be assassin would use a piece of wood as a weapon) attempt is great for votes.

Is there an election coming up? the pictures look horrific, if this is someone within his own party they are insane

[The Slim Reaper]

doubt that, he is from anti-migrant party, so i think the one who beat him up was a refugee or someone who supports refugees


but anyway it was a amateur (very sure about that) cause professional assassins won't beat someone up, but using a gun with silencer or knife

https://media.giphy.com/media/yMjmcg20gHej6/giphy.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

Honestly? I find this story very suspect, especially in the light of the recent Brazil election and how Bolsonaro pretty much only won because he was attacked.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if the attackers are never found and the party bolsters in terms of support. Not saying that the victim is behind his own attack but I'd be suspicious of other people in the party.

I wouldn't say it's unrealistic to see incidents like this happen more often, an 'assassination' (bit much in this case, I don't think a would be assassin would use a piece of wood as a weapon) attempt is great for votes.

How do you know the Brazil chap, who was stabbed in public won his election based on that event?

I dont think any polls were taken?

[Tom4784]

How do you know the Brazil chap, who was stabbed in public won his election based on that event?

I dont think any polls were taken?

Common sense, he was an outsider in the polls before the attack and his poll numbers surged after the attack.

You know the answers to the questions you ask and that acting like you don't won't get the reaction you want.

[Livia]

Strong odour of denial in this thread.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Common sense, he was an outsider in the polls before the attack and his poll numbers surged after the attack.

You know the answers to the questions you ask and that acting like you don't won't get the reaction you want.

so you dont know however what you do seem to know is my thoughts?

how very curious

[Livia]

Really? cos I never heard about this story from August at all........

https://www.thelocal.de/20180830/migrant-beaten-in-racist-attack-in-north-german-city

Why make it into a competition? anyone getting attacked like that is bad.

Because it apparently is a competition. See Dezzy's opinion... he even intimates this man's party may have been behind his own attack to garner votes. I see that as quite a sinister bit of denial, but frankly, not unexpected.

[Tom4784]

so you dont know however what you do seem to know is my thoughts?

how very curious

He was considered an outsider before the attack and he became the frontrunner after the attack. Let's face it, you know the truth, you're just trying to get a reaction.

[Livia]

He was considered an outsider before the attack and he became the frontrunner after the attack. Let's face it, you know the truth, you're just trying to get a reaction.


This statement, unsupported by any evidence other than your own interpretation reads like this:

Left of centre: Victim
Right of centre: Deserves it.

[Niamh.]

Because it apparently is a competition. See Dezzy's opinion... he even intimates this man's party may have been behind his own attack to garner votes. I see that as quite a sinister bit of denial, but frankly, not unexpected.

You were the first one in this thread to start comparing attacks and coverage of attacks. regarding Dezzys post, he seemed to be speculating about who was responsible?

[Livia]

You were the first one in this thread to start comparing attacks and coverage of attacks. regarding Dezzys post, he seemed to be speculating about who was responsible?



Yes, Dezzy is just speculating that the right wing party attacked their own man.

[Niamh.]

Yes, Dezzy is just speculating that the right wing party attacked their own man.

Ok, what has that to do with my posts though?

[Livia]

Ok, what has that to do with my posts though?

Nothing. You were explaining Dezzy's speculation for me.

[Livia]

I only wanted the ten minute argument. Seems I'm stuck with the full half hour today.

[Niamh.]

Nothing. You were explaining Dezzy's speculation for me.

I was explaining him speculating wasn't related to what I'd said originally and still isn't.

[Tom4784]

Because it apparently is a competition. See Dezzy's opinion... he even intimates this man's party may have been behind his own attack to garner votes. I see that as quite a sinister bit of denial, but frankly, not unexpected.

Complete nonsense.

I simply stated an opinion on the culprit, I'm not making out that this incident isn't serious or that other incidents take precedence I'm just stating that I'm inclined to believe that the culprits are closer to the victim then he might suspect. The fact that you won't even entertain it as a possibility shows more denial on your part than mine. It's very possible that things unfolded as they were reported, I'm not denying that possibility. I just think that, like how Trump has inspired potential world leaders to be extreme as possible to get elected, extreme political groups will look to Bolsonero's situation and try to profit from it. Just to clarify since I think you'll try to make out that I think the Bolsonero incident was preplanned by his campaign or something, I don't think Bolsonero's stabbing was part of some plot to gain an advantage, they were given lemons and made lemonade with it but I do think other political parties in other parts of the world will take note and try to profit from how effective an assassination attempt can be when it comes to votes.

[Livia]

Complete nonsense.

I simply stated an opinion on the culprit, I'm not making out that this incident isn't serious or that other incidents take precedence I'm just stating that I'm inclined to believe that the culprits are closer to the victim then he might suspect. The fact that you won't even entertain it as a possibility shows more denial on your part than mine. It's very possible that things unfolded as they were reported, I'm not denying that possibility. I just think that, like how Trump has inspired potential world leaders to be extreme as possible to get elected, extreme political groups will look to Bolsonero's situation and try to profit from it. Just to clarify since I think you'll try to make out that I think the Bolsonero incident was preplanned by his campaign or something, I don't think Bolsonero's stabbing was part of some plot to gain an advantage, they were given lemons and made lemonade with it but I do think other political parties in other parts of the world will take note and try to profit from how effective an assassination attempt can be when it comes to votes.

Complete nonsense.

[Livia]

I was explaining him speculating wasn't related to what I'd said originally and still isn't.

Yes well, I have work to do as well as writing on the forum.

I'll **** off and let you all agree with each other.

[arista]

doubt that, he is from anti-migrant party, so i think the one who beat him up was a refugee or someone who supports refugees


but anyway it was a amateur (very sure about that) cause professional assassins won't beat someone up, but using a gun with silencer or knife


Sure but still a Legal party

[Tom4784]

This statement, unsupported by any evidence other than your own interpretation reads like this:

Left of centre: Victim
Right of centre: Deserves it.

Only if you ignore the post in which I said that I don't think Bolsonero is to blame for being stabbed which it seems like you are.

[Tom4784]

Complete nonsense.

I'll take this petty (and highly hypocritical) response as you throwing in the towel.

Call my posts nonsense but at least back up what you're saying with an argument of your own. This is just sad, what's happened to you?

[Niamh.]

Yes well, I have work to do as well as writing on the forum.

I'll **** off and let you all agree with each other.

Just having a discussion. I wasn't agreeing with anyone in this thread though, I didn't even comment on whether I agree or disagree with Dezzys post :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'll take this petty (and highly hypocritical) response as you throwing in the towel.

Call my posts nonsense but at least back up what you're saying with an argument of your own. This is just sad, what's happened to you?

er you tried a minute ago to (as per) end an argument with me by telling me what I thought and why i posted it (incorrectly I may add)

If that isnt a good example of what you are now trying to pull on Livia I dont know what is?

[Tom4784]

er you tried a minute ago to (as per) end an argument with me by telling me what I thought and why i posted it (incorrectly I may add)

If that isnt a good example of what you are now trying to pull on Livia I dont know what is?

Completely different situations but okay?

Telling someone that their points are nonsense whilst not elaborating why is different to me responding to your question and questioning your intent. I pretty much said in the post you quoted that I don't care that she called my post nonsense, just that she didn't bother to explain why (Spoiler alert: She just wanted to be petty).

But you already knew that.