Andrew Neil accuses Owen Jones of ‘SMEARS AND LIES’ and debate ‘HIJACK’ in major BBC

[arista]

James O'Brien on LBC just
played this clip on this link
He said everything Owen Jones said is true
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1070415/Owen-Jones-Andrew-Neil-BBC-This-Week-row-smears-lies-accusations

[The row was over Mr Neil’s role as chairman of Holdings Media Group,
which publishes the conservative leading Spectator magazine.
Mr Jones claimed the magazine had “defended Greek neo-Nazis”
and published Islamophobic content.
Mr Neil fired back commenting: “I knew you were going to bring that up and I won’t let you hijack.]


[Writer Owen Jones was accused of spreading “smears and lies” last night
by BBC host Andrew Neil, during a heated
row over promoting bigotry during
an appearance on the ‘This Week’ politics show.]

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Monday, that Vile Protester that hassled the Conservative MP , also got his gang to hassle Owen Jones

[Crimson Dynamo]

What a vile rude man and Andrew was quite right to put him in his box and shut him up

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[Crimson Dynamo]

The Spectator Christmas special was excellent this year

[arista]

What a vile rude man and Andrew was quite right to put him in his box and shut him up

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Owen Jones Hijacked that Interview
that's just rude

[arista]

I recorded This Week BBC1HD
I just watched it full
Even though Owen Jones was told that's the End of the Interview
he stayed sitting there,
so once Andrew went to say "round up of the week" video
I am sure Owen carried on about the Spectator Magazine. (Off Camera)


Andrew Neil
stated he has No Control over the Editors
of that magazine.

So Owen at the end of that interview Fecked UP

[Twosugars]

good on Jones

Neill should take his toupee and get off our tv screens

[chuff me dizzy]

What an arrogant little creep Jones is, just like his hero Corbyn

[joeysteele]

Owen is generally spot on in what he says.
I don't mind Andrew Neill usually but I would say good for Owen.

[arista]

good on Jones

Neill should take his toupee and get off our tv screens


Its a long interview
that went wrong at the very end.

Owen said Andrew was Naive
that is very wrong.
He also ignored Andrew who said
he has NO Control Over the Editors



Sadly Owen Jones lost it
and tried to Hijack something that has Feck All
to do with that BBC Show
to be fair.


I like Owen
its good to have balance
but last night he screwed that interview
and got angry on live tv.

[arista]

Owen is generally spot on in what he says.
I don't mind Andrew Neill usually but I would say good for Owen.


Do you not get it?
That Magazine has nothing to
with the BBC show.


Also Joey
Andrew has no control over what the Editors
say on that magazine.

[Twosugars]

Neill is a crusty old right wing and former Murdoch arselicker. He has no business hosting a show on an impartial bbc. this is not fox. get rid.

All these old white men dripping poison into public debate. No wonder the young are put off by politics.

[Twosugars]

Do you not get it?
That Magazine has nothing to
with the BBC show.


Also Joey
Andrew has no control over what the Editors
say on that magazine.

The he should resign one of the positions (preferably bbc), can't have both.

[arista]

The he should resign one of the positions (preferably bbc), can't have both.


No
as the BBC want him working there
he can have both.


Its not for you to impose your Strict Bias
to be fair

[arista]

Neill is a crusty old right wing and former Murdoch arselicker. He has no business hosting a show on an impartial bbc. this is not fox. get rid.

All these old white men dripping poison into public debate. No wonder the young are put off by politics.


Write to the BBC
I am sure they will thank you.


If you Hate him so much - Stop watching it


He has done that show "this Week"
for a long time , since 2003.
At has won awards


https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mvhd

[Twosugars]

No
as the BBC want him working there
he can have both.


Its not for you to impose your Strict Bias
to be fair

I prefer impartial presenters, bias is no good for anyone, arista, not in presenters :nono:

Jones did public service by drawing attention to Neill's compromised position
Neill's "impartiality" is as fake as his hairline :D

[Twosugars]

Arista, wish you stopped editing your posts mid-convo

I stopped watching him years ago.

[chuff me dizzy]

Write to the BBC
I am sure they will thank you.


If you Hate him so much - Stop watching it


He has done that show "this Week"
for a long time , since 2003.
At has won awards

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[arista]

Arista, wish you stopped editing your posts mid-convo

I stopped watching him years ago.


Sorry I am at work.

[arista]

I prefer impartial presenters, bias is no good for anyone, arista, not in presenters :nono:

Jones did public service by drawing attention to Neill's compromised position
Neill's "impartiality" is as fake as his hairline :D


OK
but do you understand
Neill has no control over what the Editors write
in that Magazine,
That is a Valid Point.

[Twosugars]

OK
but do you understand
Neill has no control over what the Editors write
in that Magazine,
That is a Valid Point.

then he should resign his chairmanship.

[arista]

then he should resign his chairmanship.


You must understand
He is permitted to have 2 jobs (All Legal)
he works for Juniper TV Productions
And the BBC pay him for his Political shows.

That is why Andrew Stopped Owen FAST


That Issue has nothing to do with the BBC
so Owen needs to do a Interview on another Forum.



Owen goes on CNN HD talk show alot , for example



If you hate him having 2 jobs
Write to the BBC.
It's all legal

[Twosugars]

it's not about having two jobs, it's about impartiality, he can have a different second job that's not a problem, you do understand that?

tbh, cba with Neill, but good on Jones

[arista]

it's not about having two jobs, it's about impartiality, he can have a different second job that's not a problem, you do understand that?

tbh, cba with Neill, but good on Jones



Yes While on the BBC
Andrew is impartial
otherwise he would be SACKED

Fecking FACT

[bots]

I'm no fan of Andrew Neil, but he does a good job on This Week, it's a highly underrated program in my opinion

[Alf]

Portillo gave Jones a good dressing down last night.

[Twosugars]

Yes While on the BBC
Andrew is impartial
otherwise he would be SACKED

Fecking FACT

calm dawn
I find him not impartial so I stopped watching
crusty old tory relic :D

[kirklancaster]

Owen is generally spot on in what he says.
I don't mind Andrew Neill usually but I would say good for Owen.

And self-promoter, self-seeker Owen has never been more 'spot on' than in all the many times he has spoken the truth about Corbyn and stuck the knife in his scrawny back - 10 instances of which are listed below:

1. “Jeremy Corbyn, a person who will never win a British general election… I know him personally and I know he never wanted to be leader; It was presented as a sense of obligation. He never anticipated this result and now leads the party without having any experience.” (Contexto y Accion, November 2016)

2. “The Left has failed badly. I’d find it hard to vote for Corbyn… They have made lots of bad mistakes. There’s been a lack of strategy, communication, vision.” (Evening Standard, February 2017)

3. “Since the by-election rout, [Corbyn] has made it clear he isn’t going anywhere without even offering the vaguest outlines about how to turn it around. That isn’t good enough: again, consider the stakes. Both he and his team have to think hard. If Corbyn decides he is unable to confront the multiple existential crises enveloping Labour, then an agreement should be struck where he can stand down…” (Guardian, March 2017)

4. “My passionate and sincere view is Jeremy Corbyn should stand down as soon as possible in exchange for another left-wing MP being allowed to stand on for leadership in his place: all to stop both Labour and the left imploding, which is what is currently on the cards.” (Medium, March 2017)

5. “Yes, it’s true that Labour has won all its by-elections since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, and increased majorities. But in his first year, the picture was the same with Ed Miliband. Neither did Corbyn do as badly in the local elections as was predicted. But Labour still lost seats — unprecedented for an the main opposition party for decades …” (Medium, July 2016)

6. “Corbyn’s acceptance speech — his first attempt to address the country — lacked coherence and had no core message to connect to people outside of the left’s bubble. He then disappeared for several days (with notable exceptions like walking in silence as a reporter followed him) while the press (inevitably) viciously attacked him, except to turn up to a war memorial and fail to sing the national anthem.” (Medium, March 2017)

7. “I’m somebody who campaigned for Corbyn, I’m a left-wing journalist. But I’m genuinely not clear on the policies being offered. It seems as though Ed Miliband presented his policies as less left-wing than they actually were, and now the current leadership presents them as more left-wing than they actually are.” (Medium, July 2016)

8. “When I asked Jeremy Corbyn in my recent interview what his strategy was, he came up with some sensible starting points… The problem is — that’s the first I’ve heard of it… There’s no point having a vision unless it is repeated ad infinitum, rather than being offered after being prompted: it will go over everyone’s head.“(Medium, July 2016)

9. “Most people don’t give a toss about politics on an every day basis. A bad image of a new politician at an early stage is tough to shift.” (Twitter, September 2015)

10. “As Jeremy Corbyn is surrounded by cheering crowds, Labour generally, and the left specifically, are teetering on the edge of looming calamity.” (Medium, July 2016)

And when - like Corbyn and McDonnell before him - Owen positioned himself as a left-wing “Lexiteer” who saw the sinister and corrupt EU as a 'bosses’ union' and urged the UK Left-Wing to Leave The Eu':

Back in July 2015, Owen Jones wrote an article for the Guardian headlined: “The left must now campaign to leave the EU”. He argued the left must “reclaim the Eurosceptic cause” and “run its own separate campaign and try and win ownership of the issue”, writing: “Such a populist campaign could help the left reconnect with working-class communities it lost touch with long ago… The case for Lexit grows ever stronger, and – at the very least – more of us need to start dipping our toes in the water”.

Yep - sometimes Jones is 'spot on'.

[Crimson Dynamo]

oop

[arista]

calm dawn
I find him not impartial so I stopped watching
crusty old tory relic :D


Thats your hang up

[Cherie]

Kirk with the real scoop

[chuff me dizzy]

And self-promoter, self-seeker Owen has never been more 'spot on' than in all the many times he has spoken the truth about Corbyn and stuck the knife in his scrawny back - 10 instances of which are listed below:

1. “Jeremy Corbyn, a person who will never win a British general election… I know him personally and I know he never wanted to be leader; It was presented as a sense of obligation. He never anticipated this result and now leads the party without having any experience.” (Contexto y Accion, November 2016)

2. “The Left has failed badly. I’d find it hard to vote for Corbyn… They have made lots of bad mistakes. There’s been a lack of strategy, communication, vision.” (Evening Standard, February 2017)

3. “Since the by-election rout, [Corbyn] has made it clear he isn’t going anywhere without even offering the vaguest outlines about how to turn it around. That isn’t good enough: again, consider the stakes. Both he and his team have to think hard. If Corbyn decides he is unable to confront the multiple existential crises enveloping Labour, then an agreement should be struck where he can stand down…” (Guardian, March 2017)

4. “My passionate and sincere view is Jeremy Corbyn should stand down as soon as possible in exchange for another left-wing MP being allowed to stand on for leadership in his place: all to stop both Labour and the left imploding, which is what is currently on the cards.” (Medium, March 2017)

5. “Yes, it’s true that Labour has won all its by-elections since Jeremy Corbyn became leader, and increased majorities. But in his first year, the picture was the same with Ed Miliband. Neither did Corbyn do as badly in the local elections as was predicted. But Labour still lost seats — unprecedented for an the main opposition party for decades …” (Medium, July 2016)

6. “Corbyn’s acceptance speech — his first attempt to address the country — lacked coherence and had no core message to connect to people outside of the left’s bubble. He then disappeared for several days (with notable exceptions like walking in silence as a reporter followed him) while the press (inevitably) viciously attacked him, except to turn up to a war memorial and fail to sing the national anthem.” (Medium, March 2017)

7. “I’m somebody who campaigned for Corbyn, I’m a left-wing journalist. But I’m genuinely not clear on the policies being offered. It seems as though Ed Miliband presented his policies as less left-wing than they actually were, and now the current leadership presents them as more left-wing than they actually are.” (Medium, July 2016)

8. “When I asked Jeremy Corbyn in my recent interview what his strategy was, he came up with some sensible starting points… The problem is — that’s the first I’ve heard of it… There’s no point having a vision unless it is repeated ad infinitum, rather than being offered after being prompted: it will go over everyone’s head.“(Medium, July 2016)

9. “Most people don’t give a toss about politics on an every day basis. A bad image of a new politician at an early stage is tough to shift.” (Twitter, September 2015)

10. “As Jeremy Corbyn is surrounded by cheering crowds, Labour generally, and the left specifically, are teetering on the edge of looming calamity.” (Medium, July 2016)

And when - like Corbyn and McDonnell before him - Owen positioned himself as a left-wing “Lexiteer” who saw the sinister and corrupt EU as a 'bosses’ union' and urged the UK Left-Wing to Leave The Eu':

Back in July 2015, Owen Jones wrote an article for the Guardian headlined: “The left must now campaign to leave the EU”. He argued the left must “reclaim the Eurosceptic cause” and “run its own separate campaign and try and win ownership of the issue”, writing: “Such a populist campaign could help the left reconnect with working-class communities it lost touch with long ago… The case for Lexit grows ever stronger, and – at the very least – more of us need to start dipping our toes in the water”.

Yep - sometimes Jones is 'spot on'.

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