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Niamh.
17-01-2019, 01:29 PM
Time for everyone to go Veggie I think :think:

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HUMAN DIETS AND food production must “change dramatically” by 2050 to avoid potentially catastrophic damage to the planet, scientists have warned.

The EAT-Lancet Commission has claimed that current diet trends across the globe are unsustainable, and must change over the next three decades to avoid environmental catastrophe.

Consumption is expected to increase as the global population grows to 10 billion by 2050 while it will also become wealthier, with an expectation that more animal-based foods will be consumed as a result.

But without change, current trends will lead to climate change, biodiversity loss, increased pollution, and unsustainable changes in water and land use.

“The food we eat and how we produce it determines the health of people and the planet, and we are currently getting this seriously wrong,” says one of the study’s authors, Professor Tim Lang of the City, University of London.

“We need a significant overhaul, changing the global food system on a scale not seen before in ways appropriate to each country’s circumstances.”

Modelled scenarios

To solve this, the study recommends that the consumption of red meat and sugar should halve by 2050, and that the consumption of nuts, fruits, vegetables, and legumes should double.

Meanwhile, it also says that fossil fuels should be eliminated in agricultural production, which should prevent further losses to biodiversity, and bring about improvements in fertiliser and water use efficiency.

The findings represent the first scientific targets for healthy diets via sustainable food production systems, which operate within the planet’s ability to produce food.

Using these targets, the report’s authors modelled various scenarios to develop a sustainable food system and deliver healthy diets by 2050.

They found that major dietary changes, improved food production processes and reduced food waste are needed for planet to continue to be sustainable, and added that no single measure on its own would be enough to stay within the limits.

They added that global collaboration would also be required, such as changes to the agriculture industry to focus on more varied nutrient-rich crops and increased governance of land and ocean use.

“Humanity now poses a threat to the stability of the planet. Sustainability of the food system must therefore be defined from a planetary perspective,” said the study’s co-lead, Commissioner Professor Johan Rockström.

“There is no silver bullet for combatting harmful food production practices, but by defining and quantifying a safe operating space for food systems, diets can be identified that will nurture human health and support environmental sustainability.”

The entire study and its dietary recommendations can be read here.

https://www.thejournal.ie/red-meat-consumption-target-2050-lancet-4443687-Jan2019/

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2019, 01:41 PM
I blame Supermacs

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 01:42 PM
I blame Supermacs

:oh:

Cherie
17-01-2019, 01:57 PM
Not sure about red meat, how many people actually eat red meat every day :suspect: but sugar is at crazy levels...…. and it is hidden in so many every day foods its hard to avoid it unless you cook everything from scratch

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2019, 02:11 PM
Not sure about red meat, how many people actually eat red meat every day :suspect: but sugar is at crazy levels...…. and it is hidden in so many every day foods its hard to avoid it unless you cook everything from scratch

indeed

Neem admitted she eat a crunchie and a double decker for lunch so maybe she should look to cleaning her own intake up before attacking others :nono:

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 02:21 PM
indeed

Neem admitted she eat a crunchie and a double decker for lunch so maybe she should look to cleaning her own intake up before attacking others :nono:

:oh:

Twosugars
17-01-2019, 02:22 PM
bet Trumpet is one of the biggest culprits :idc:

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2019, 02:24 PM
bet Trumpet is one of the biggest culprits :idc:

I do eat a lot of sugar but meat, no

In fact right now I am sucking a barley sugar

:hee:

Cherie
17-01-2019, 02:29 PM
The average UK family is wasting nearly £60 a month by throwing away almost an entire meal a day, according to a new report that reveals the scale of the ongoing challenge to reduce household food waste.

Britons are chucking out the equivalent of 24 meals a month, adding up to 4.2 million tonnes of food and drink every year that could have been consumed. Almost half of this is going straight from fridges or cupboards into the bin. One-fifth of what households buy ends up as waste, and around 60% of that could have been eaten.

There has been no progress in reducing meat and fish wastage, with Britons still throwing away the equivalent of 86 million chickens every year. The top three foods being thrown away uneaten in British homes are bread, potatoes and milk. The equivalent of 24m slices of bread, 5.8m potatoes and 5.9m glasses of milk are being wasted daily, while even cakes and pastries make it into the top 10 most wasted items.

The study by the government's waste advisory body, the Waste & Resources Action Programme (Wrap), shows that since 2007, avoidable household food waste has been cut by 21% to 4.2m tonnes, saving consumers almost £13bn.

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 02:33 PM
The average UK family is wasting nearly £60 a month by throwing away almost an entire meal a day, according to a new report that reveals the scale of the ongoing challenge to reduce household food waste.

Britons are chucking out the equivalent of 24 meals a month, adding up to 4.2 million tonnes of food and drink every year that could have been consumed. Almost half of this is going straight from fridges or cupboards into the bin. One-fifth of what households buy ends up as waste, and around 60% of that could have been eaten.

There has been no progress in reducing meat and fish wastage, with Britons still throwing away the equivalent of 86 million chickens every year. The top three foods being thrown away uneaten in British homes are bread, potatoes and milk. The equivalent of 24m slices of bread, 5.8m potatoes and 5.9m glasses of milk are being wasted daily, while even cakes and pastries make it into the top 10 most wasted items.

The study by the government's waste advisory body, the Waste & Resources Action Programme (Wrap), shows that since 2007, avoidable household food waste has been cut by 21% to 4.2m tonnes, saving consumers almost £13bn.

That's awful. It's so unfair how unbalanced the world is aswell, when you think in some countries people are literally starving to death

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2019, 02:35 PM
That's awful. It's so unfair how unbalanced the world is aswell, when you think in some countries people are literally starving to death

The answer is to halt procreation in these areas and that will help to solve this problem

Withano
17-01-2019, 02:37 PM
If everyone turned veggie or vegan tomorrow, the earth will end a lot sooner - with all the hundreds or thousands of factories that would have to be made to make that processed artificial food stuff.

I’m not sure what the answer is, but it aint that.

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 02:38 PM
The answer is to halt procreation in these areas and that will help to solve this problem

Education and women having rights over their own reproductive system would greatly help with that.

Crimson Dynamo
17-01-2019, 02:39 PM
Education and women having rights over their own reproductive system would greatly help with that.

yep and also mass contraceptive availability and an total eradication of religion

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 02:41 PM
yep and also mass contraceptive availability and an total eradication of religion

mmm doesn't help that missionaries go over their telling them that contraception is the devil

daniel-lewis-1985
17-01-2019, 02:43 PM
If everyone turned veggie or vegan tomorrow, the earth will end a lot sooner - with all the hundreds or thousands of factories that would have to be made to make that processed artificial food stuff.

I’m not sure what the answer is, but it aint that.

Not only that but i have yet to see any veggie products that arent packed in plastic?

Ive recently cut down on meat and from my experience i feel alot better but i have no idea how this is affecting the planet...Theres still cows out there farting the planet down the drain so...

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 02:45 PM
Not only that but i have yet to see any veggie products that arent packed in plastic?

Ive recently cut down on meat and from my experience i feel alot better but i have no idea how this is affecting the planet...Theres still cows out there farting the planet down the drain so...

Potatoes :oh:

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ETA but seriously alot of the Quorn stuff is packed in boxes

daniel-lewis-1985
17-01-2019, 03:10 PM
Potatoes :oh:

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ETA but seriously alot of the Quorn stuff is packed in boxes

Cant live off potatoes though lol im talking about the meat substitutes. I know that some Quorn branded foods come boxed instead of packages in plastic but the difference in price is stupid.

For instance veggie sausages in ALDI are £1 for 10 whilst Quorn sausages are £2 for 8....That's how they are priced in my local supermarkets anyway.

Niamh.
17-01-2019, 03:22 PM
Cant live off potatoes though lol im talking about the meat substitutes. I know that some Quorn branded foods come boxed instead of packages in plastic but the difference in price is stupid.

For instance veggie sausages in ALDI are £1 for 10 whilst Quorn sausages are £2 for 8....That's how they are priced in my local supermarkets anyway.

You realise I'm Irish? :idc:

I never even thought to go to Aldi to get veggie stuff actually, I was getting just Quorn things, we don't eat loads of quorn though anyway so it's not really a big issue

user104658
17-01-2019, 03:59 PM
The problem isn't the type of food being consumed it's overpopulation full stop. Everyone going veggie might solve the issue for a generation or two but we'll just end up wrecking the planet anyway with vast ever-growing swathes of land devoted to wheat, corn and soy.

We don't need to stop eating burgers, we need Thanos to snap his fingers... like 3 or 4 times :umm2:.

bots
17-01-2019, 04:16 PM
We need to evolve as species so we don't eat at all

arista
17-01-2019, 04:26 PM
By 2050
that is so far away.

arista
17-01-2019, 04:27 PM
The problem isn't the type of food being consumed it's overpopulation full stop. Everyone going veggie might solve the issue for a generation or two but we'll just end up wrecking the planet anyway with vast ever-growing swathes of land devoted to wheat, corn and soy.

We don't need to stop eating burgers, we need Thanos to snap his fingers... like 3 or 4 times :umm2:.



Only one Solution
WW3


Take the numbers down in Millions

Marsh.
17-01-2019, 04:27 PM
We don't need to stop eating burgers, we need Thanos to snap his fingers... like 3 or 4 times :umm2:.

:laugh2:

arista
17-01-2019, 04:28 PM
We need to evolve as species so we don't eat at all


That is not going to happen.

Eating keeps us alive

Marsh.
17-01-2019, 04:28 PM
We need to all learn from Mariah and live off oxygen.

bots
17-01-2019, 04:42 PM
That is not going to happen.

Eating keeps us alive

we can live on gods love

arista
17-01-2019, 04:43 PM
We need to all learn from Mariah and live off oxygen.


To Costly

Northern Monkey
17-01-2019, 05:27 PM
What TS said.

The problem is not what we’re eating but massive overpopulation thus the amount of food overall we’re eating.

Vegans don’t realise how much they’re ****ing the planet up aswell as the rest of us.
Stripping third world and poorer countries of their homegrown resources,Massively driving up the prices of local food in those countries so the locals can’t afford it and the fuel to transport all this vegan food over to all these western do gooders who want to make everyone else feel bad for eating meat(NAVALT).
Many western countries aren’t having enough kids and the rest of the world are shagging like rabbits spitting kids out at a rate of knots.
Look at China for example.Over a billion people and having to enforce 1 and 2 child policies.

Wizard.
17-01-2019, 06:48 PM
I’m veggie and only have 1 sugar in my tea

daniel-lewis-1985
17-01-2019, 07:41 PM
What TS said.

The problem is not what we’re eating but massive overpopulation thus the amount of food overall we’re eating.

Vegans don’t realise how much they’re ****ing the planet up aswell as the rest of us.
Stripping third world and poorer countries of their homegrown resources,Massively driving up the prices of local food in those countries so the locals can’t afford it and the fuel to transport all this vegan food over to all these western do gooders who want to make everyone else feel bad for eating meat(NAVALT).
Many western countries aren’t having enough kids and the rest of the world are shagging like rabbits spitting kids out at a rate of knots.
Look at China for example.Over a billion people and having to enforce 1 and 2 child policies.

Agree with this.

If vegans are going to preach to the rest of the world how they are saving the planet then they need to only eat local produce and stop destroying habitats on the other side of the world for their "healthy" diet.

Cherie
17-01-2019, 09:22 PM
Unless the vegans are eating organic veg they are messing up the soil with pesticides :skull:

Livia
18-01-2019, 11:48 AM
The only thing that's going to save the planet is a marked reduction in population.

The Slim Reaper
18-01-2019, 02:37 PM
Niamh running propaganda for her lifestyle

Niamh.
18-01-2019, 02:48 PM
Niamh running propaganda for her lifestyle

Hey blame the scientists not me :oh:

Beso
18-01-2019, 02:54 PM
The only thing that's going to save the planet is a marked reduction in population.

:clap1:

The Slim Reaper
18-01-2019, 03:12 PM
The only thing that's going to save the planet is a marked reduction in population.

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Niamh.
18-01-2019, 03:25 PM
Thanos gets a rough deal but he's not wrong :laugh:

user104658
18-01-2019, 04:53 PM
The only thing that's going to save the planet is a marked reduction in population.

Not me and Livia disagreeing on absolutely everything except the need for massive population reduction :umm2:.

Niamh.
18-01-2019, 04:55 PM
tbf I'm not sure anyone would or could argue that the world needs more people :laugh:

arista
18-01-2019, 04:59 PM
Unless the vegans are eating organic veg they are messing up the soil with pesticides :skull:


Yes Messing Up
their Ponced Up Soul

user104658
18-01-2019, 05:00 PM
Thanos gets a rough deal but he's not wrong :laugh:

To be fair his logic is still flawed... he erases half of all life but how is that even going to help? It brings the global population of Earth from 7 billion to 3.5 billion... it was 3.5 billion in 1970! So in 50 years time we'd be right back where we started :think:. And since he's identified overpopulation being a universal issue... you have to assume the same applies on every other planet he's trying to "fix". He's only solving the problem for a short time! We need like 90%+ population reduction, like I said he shoulda kept clickin' :joker:.

Niamh.
18-01-2019, 05:13 PM
To be fair his logic is still flawed... he erases half of all life but how is that even going to help? It brings the global population of Earth from 7 billion to 3.5 billion... it was 3.5 billion in 1970! So in 50 years time we'd be right back where we started :think:. And since he's identified overpopulation being a universal issue... you have to assume the same applies on every other planet he's trying to "fix". He's only solving the problem for a short time! We need like 90%+ population reduction, like I said he shoulda kept clickin' :joker:.Well he's not a monster TS :oh: