Emiliano Sala: Fears Cardiff player on crashed plane

[Crimson Dynamo]

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here is "genuine concern" Premier League footballer Emiliano Sala was on a flight which disappeared between France and Cardiff.

It is feared the Argentine striker was one of two people on board the Piper Malibu, which disappeared off Alderney on Monday night.

Cardiff City, which signed the 28-year-old from French club Nantes on Saturday, said it was "seeking clarification" as to what happened.

A search is under way.

Cardiff Airport confirmed the aircraft was due to arrive from Nantes but a spokeswoman said there were no further details.

HM Coastguard said the disappearance was not in the UK search and rescue area, but it had sent two helicopters to help.

A spokeswoman said they were assisting Guernsey Coastguard with a search for a light aircraft off Alderney: "HM Coastguard helicopters from Solent and Newquay have been helping to search overnight with nothing found."

The search and rescue operation had to deal with worsening conditions as they scoured the area on Monday night.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-guernsey-46954922

[Denver]

It's been confirmed he was on the flight and is feared dead

[Crimson Dynamo]

Awful

[Denver]

Such sad news and hopefully as doing up as it seems he is still alive, such a talented young man

[thesheriff443]

Humans are fragile l in the world.

[Cherie]

Tragic

[Nicky91]

:(

[Denver]

No survivors are expected </3

[Denver]

Search has suspended for the day and will continue at Sunrise

[Denver]

A number of floating objects were seen in the water but they were unable to be confirmed as parts of the Aircraft

[Denver]

Sadly doesn't look like there will be a happy ending to this story

[thisisdanny]

Still no news?

[LaLaLand]

This is awful :(

[Ramsay]

Heartbreaking :(

[Denver]

There has been unconfirmed reports that he told freinds he feared the plane journey

[Denver]

It was always his dream to live in Britain and Play in the premier league which makes it even more heart breaking

[Denver]

It took 4 attempts for the plane to get off the runway so how the hell was it allowed to take off and why did nobody stop it from taking off??

[Shaun]

Horrible news.

Just don't understand why people risk small planes instead of something safer.

[Denver]

So an audio has come out of him telling his dad he is scared he will die on the plane

[Denver]

He also said the plane looked like it would fall apart

[Denver]

Who ever organised the flight must take full responsibility

[Mystic Mock]

I don't know why the flight wasn't delayed until the next day?:conf:

[Shaun]

I know it's really tasteless to even ask but - in the event he has perished in this - what happens regarding the transfer? The money presumably has been paid and contract signed, but forking out millions (or, on Nantes' part, accepting it) for someone who literally died 3 days later is unheard of.

As I said I know it's stupid to even think of such a thing, but from a footballing stance this is a cruel blow to Cardiff / their transfer window from a pragmatic POV.

Anyway, typing all of that made me feel gross and tactless, so I'll reiterate my sadness at what is most likely his passing. How many others were aboard?

[Cherie]

I know it's really tasteless to even ask but - in the event he has perished in this - what happens regarding the transfer? The money presumably has been paid and contract signed, but forking out millions (or, on Nantes' part, accepting it) for someone who literally died 3 days later is unheard of.

As I said I know it's stupid to even think of such a thing, but from a footballing stance this is a cruel blow to Cardiff / their transfer window from a pragmatic POV.

Anyway, typing all of that made me feel gross and tactless, so I'll reiterate my sadness at what is most likely his passing. How many others were aboard?

He will have been insured poor lad, so sad to see his signing interview and last picture with Nantes

[bots]

There were 2 on the plane in total I believe. I once flew in a 2 seater as a passenger and didn't have particular confidence in the pilot as he was an amateur enthusiast. It was a very scary experience that will never be repeated.

[Denver]

They are looking into the possibility he escaped on a raft

[Kazanne]

This is such a sad story,I suppose it is asking for a miracle that he is safe,but from what we see and hear it looks like no happy ending,poor guy.

[Denver]

This is such a sad story,I suppose it is asking for a miracle that he is safe,but from what we see and hear it looks like no happy ending,poor guy.

They have said they are have 4 possible outcomes and are prioritising the idea they are on a raft that was on board so hopefully we will get good news

[Niamh.]

They are looking into the possibility he escaped on a raft

It's unlikely but fingers crossed anyway

[Denver]

It's unlikely but fingers crossed anyway

They seem confident with coastal areas and off lying rocks and islands their main priority

[Niamh.]

They seem confident with coastal areas and off lying rocks and islands their main priority

It would be fantastic to have a happy ending :fc:

[Livia]

What a horrible story. I really hope he and his pilot are found, as unlikely as that seems.

[Denver]

There is a lifeboat searching the coast of Jersey after debris was spotted

[Denver]

There is an option the plane sank and if they were on board it will be hard to recover bodies

[Cherie]

Would be amazing if they were found, the weather conditions are against them though

[Denver]

So it's been said if they can't find the Aircraft it will limit the chances of finding them at all especially if they sunk with the plane.

That must be really scary for the families that they may not even get a body let alone them being alive

[Denver]

It has now become a recovery operation

[Denver]

They most likely wont continue searching tomorrow and he is believed to be dead.

I hope if he is dead they send divers out to recover the bodies as their families deserve the chance to say goodbye.

[Denver]

Also his agent has confirmed her sorted the flight out and got the 1st plane avaible.

But experts believe the Plane should not have been flown because it can't deal with the weather and it most likely crashed because the engine was blocked with ice

[Cherie]

Also his agent has confirmed her sorted the flight out and got the 1st plane avaible.

But experts believe the Plane should not have been flown because it can't deal with the weather and it most likely crashed because the engine was blocked with ice

wow, why not put him on a commercial flight, looks like they put him on a heap of junk and this cant be confirmed now as they most likely wont be able to recover the wreckage

[Denver]

wow, why not put him on a commercial flight, looks like they put him on a heap of junk and this cant be confirmed now as they most likely wont be able to recover the wreckage

He wanted to get back quickly so they looked at Private jets and his agent picked the 1st one avaible.

He told friends the plane was falling apart and was scared and the plane took 4 times to get off the runway.

[Mystic Mock]

I know it's really tasteless to even ask but - in the event he has perished in this - what happens regarding the transfer? The money presumably has been paid and contract signed, but forking out millions (or, on Nantes' part, accepting it) for someone who literally died 3 days later is unheard of.

As I said I know it's stupid to even think of such a thing, but from a footballing stance this is a cruel blow to Cardiff / their transfer window from a pragmatic POV.

Anyway, typing all of that made me feel gross and tactless, so I'll reiterate my sadness at what is most likely his passing. How many others were aboard?

I get what you mean Shaun, tbh I've been wondering about it myself.

An awful event to happen regardless, especially after we've not that long ago mourned the Leicester owner and the four other people that died during the Leicester Helicopter crash, a truly awful year for Football in terms of health & safety.

[Cherie]

I get what you mean Shaun, tbh I've been wondering about it myself.

An awful event to happen regardless, especially after we've not that long ago mourned the Leicester owner and the four other people that died during the Leicester Helicopter crash, a truly awful year for Football in terms of health & safety.

He will have been insured by Cardiff, he is now their player, it doesn't really matter if it was only for a couple of hours, so Nantes will keep their fee and the insurance will pay out for Cardiff if they find a body, not sure what will happen if they don't

[Mystic Mock]

He will have been insured by Cardiff, he is now their player, it doesn't really matter if it was only for a couple of hours, so Nantes will keep their fee and the insurance will pay out for Cardiff if they find a body, not sure what will happen if they don't

Okay, thanks for the explanation.

I'm still gonna hold out some hope that he is still alive until they find a body that says otherwise.

[Nicky91]

i saw possible location is near Guernsey, maybe our Smithy knows more :think:

[LaLaLand]

There's been possible flare sightings coming from a small bird island reserve in the channel, being investigated.

It's tiny but a small plane could easily land on it apparently if need be.

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/sei_49037922-0c14.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C283

Link (https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/emiliano-sala-search-team-respond-13900802)

[Cherie]

There's been a possible flare sighting on a small bird island reserve in the channel, being investigated.

It's tiny but a small plane could easily land on it apparently if need be.


Imagine if they are found alive that would be incredible

[LaLaLand]

Reading the article though I don't think it's anything to get excited about sadly. :sad:

[Crimson Dynamo]

both are dead no point pretending otherwise

[Denver]

both are dead no point pretending otherwise

Have some compassion

[Denver]

The Island of Burhoa has been searched by foot with nothing found.

Search continues around coastal areas

[LaLaLand]

The search has been called off. :sad:

The search for missing footballer Emiliano Sala and pilot David Ibbotson has been called off after rescuers failed to find their plane.

Cardiff City's Argentine striker, 28, and Mr Ibbotson, from Crowle, Lincolnshire, were on the aircraft that disappeared from radar on Monday.

After three days of scouring the English Channel, authorities made the decision to abandon the search.

But Sala's sister Romina pleaded with rescuers to keep looking for him.

Guernsey Police tweeted at 15:15 GMT to say rescuers were "no longer actively searching" for the plane.

Harbourmaster Capt David Barker said the chances of survival were "extremely remote".

"We reviewed all the information available to us, as well as knowing what emergency equipment was on board, and have taken the difficult decision to end the search," he added.

Link (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-46992612?ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_mchannel=social&ns_linkname=sport&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1luwwCmhqnHzRvjCUeUnldqm-IluDMhWqBVF9CPARiC0DnWb1VlddzP_M&fbclid=IwAR1BBUJkmUvg63FSFA4lBittu2K8wgMOvGl9oYcJ9 6is4GNcn9Nm8Uungak)

[Cherie]

A part-time pilot and gas engineer was drafted in at the 11th hour to fly the plane carrying £15million Premier League footballer Emiliano Sala, the Daily Telegraph understands. Sources close to the investigation said officials in Nantes, north-west France, had been expecting an experienced pilot who regularly flew footballing figures around Europe. Instead, Dave Ibbotson, a gas engineer whose main flying activity was taking parachutists for jumps, was at the controls. (The Telegraph) Investigators will now inspect whether the pilot had the correct licence. (Evening Standard

:skull:

[Mystic Mock]

It seems like 2019 is gonna be another depressing year then.

Hopefully the family get treated with respect over the next few days at the very least.

[Denver]

The messages between Sala and the agent have been released and are heart breaking

He was expecting to be on a jet and was told he could take a fair bit of luggage with him.

You could tell he wasn't sure about the flight

[Denver]

His family and freinds and some fans are planning an independent search with boats

[Denver]

There has been calls from. A lot of people to resume the search.

The more people ask for more likely they will.

Some of the most famous players are leading the calls for a search

[Denver]

I would happily accept out government blowing funds into it

[Denver]

I've donated to the go fund me and I'd say any one who has a spare bit of money should.

[Denver]

The search is set to resume after 130k was raised in 2 days

[thesheriff443]

130 thousand is a weeks wages to the top footballers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It seems like 2019 is gonna be another depressing year then.

Hopefully the family get treated with respect over the next few days at the very least.

what on earth are you on about?

:skull:

[Black Dagger]

I would happily accept out government blowing funds into it

For what?

[Mystic Mock]

what on earth are you on about?

:skull:

There have been some people on Social Media mocking the incident.

[Cherie]

130 thousand is a weeks wages to the top footballers.

Think its a shame the footballing community havent come together on this one and put the funds in for a private search

[Denver]

For what?

To give the families piece of mind.

I know it sounds bad but if it was me I would rather a body found then nothing at all

[Black Dagger]

To give the families piece of mind.

I know it sounds bad but if it was me I would rather a body found then nothing at all

I just don't think in a scenario like this that the bodies will be found. As harsh as it sounds.

[thesheriff443]

Think its a shame the footballing community havent come together on this one and put the funds in for a private search

Exactly, they get together quick enough if they were roasting a girl in a hotel room.

[thesheriff443]

All planes should have black boxes fitted to them.

[Denver]

I just don't think in a scenario like this that the bodies will be found. As harsh as it sounds.

They could if they went under

[Mystic Mock]

Think its a shame the footballing community havent come together on this one and put the funds in for a private search

I agree.

[bots]

Not wishing to be harsh, but any search now is a waste of time. If anything is going to be found it will be through natural means from debris being washed up on a beach or caught in fishing nets.

[Nicky91]

They could if they went under

:o

uh sorry but if it crashed into sea, then sometimes you don't find bodies, just body parts

[Nicky91]

and i can know this because i watch a lot of that show air crash investigation, at aircrashes they don't usually recover all bodies, only what they can find from crashes in the sea

and sharks might've also eaten the remains (as horrible that sounds, but it could be a possibility)

[Denver]

Search has be resumed with 2 fishing vessels sent out privately

[Denver]

The world's greatest shipwreck hunter is leading the search

[Denver]

Part of the plane has washed up on a beach in France

[Denver]

2 seat Cushions were washed up on Monday morning and after investigation it was confirmed they most likely came from the plane

[Shaun]

Can you not just edit all of this into one post? I find it weird how obsessive you're being with this story.

[Denver]

Can you not just edit all of this into one post? I find it weird how obsessive you're being with this story.

Yes because keeping people up to say date is obsessive

[michael21]

Can you not just edit all of this into one post? I find it weird how obsessive you're being with this story.

Show some respect

I hope there fine the two missing people soon for there familys stake

[michael21]

Yes because keeping people up to say date is obsessive

You doing a good job

[AnnieK]

Can you not just edit all of this into one post? I find it weird how obsessive you're being with this story.

I think that's pretty harsh Shaun, its one thread and a pretty talked about topic in the media and something adam obviously is invested in. Its no weirder than a million other celeb threads and pretty topical tbh as its still unfolding on the main news channels etc?!

[Mystic Mock]

I think that's pretty harsh Shaun, its one thread and a pretty talked about topic in the media and something adam obviously is invested in. Its no weirder than a million other celeb threads and pretty topical tbh as its still unfolding on the main news channels etc?!

This.

[Smithy]

Plane has been found in the channel

(Also not too sure why this is in sports instead of SN&D but ok)

[Nicky91]

Plane has been found in the channel

(Also not too sure why this is in sports instead of SN&D but ok)

bc football is a sport, and the one of the missing persons is a footballer

[Cherie]

They were surprised to find the plane virtually intact, it must have gone down fast, those poor guys

[Denver]

One body has been found intact in the plane, not yet confirmed whose

[Shaun]

Hopefully this comes as some form of closure to his family :(

[Niamh.]

awww it was always a long shot that they would have survived anyway. Atleast their families will have closure though :(

[Denver]

I'm not sure I agree with all the media using a picture of the plane on the sea bed in the headlines

[Cal.]

I'm not sure I agree with all the media using a picture of the plane on the sea bed in the headlines

Why? It’s only like images of the Titanic on the seabed/Grenfell burning/the twin tours collapsing?

[Denver]

Why? It’s only like images of the Titanic on the seabed/Grenfell burning/the twin tours collapsing?

I guess but I feel it's to soon after being found

[AnnieK]

I guess but I feel it's to soon after being found

People demand proof though. The families of both men will have been advised first. Grenfell etc was shown when still burning and people dying inside. Unfortunately the thirst for proof and evidence is too strong to just tell the story of what has happened (as evidenced in other threads on here at the moment).

Its reported there is one body still inside the wreckage, I would assume the pilot but I hope they recover the other body for the family too. Very sad

[Smithy]

bc football is a sport, and the one of the missing persons is a footballer

Thank you captain obvious but I’d argue it’s for serious news more than sports

But anyway

[Cherie]

I read a very sad piece yesterday claiming he was quite happy at Nantes and that it was his agent and Club who forced the move as he would have been out of contract in 18 months and whilst Cardiff had the player insured it was only for the value of the transfer and that another 15 million will be lost to agent, transfer and other fees

If it is the pilots body in the plane is it possible he suffered some form of episode, heart attack or something as he had requested permisson to descend prior to the aircraft losing contact

[Nicky91]

I read a very sad piece yesterday claiming he was quite happy at Nantes and that it was his agent and Club who forced the move as he would have been out of contract in 18 months and whilst Cardiff had the player insured it was only for the value of the transfer and that another 15 million will be lost to agent, transfer and other fees

If it is the pilots body in the plane is it possible he suffered some form of episode, heart attack or something as he had requested permisson to descend prior to the aircraft losing contact

could be a possible scenario, cause if a sudden heart attack or episode plane lost control without warning or mayday call

[Smithy]

Confirmed that the body is of Emiliano

[SherzyK]

https://mobile.twitter.com/dorsetpolice/status/1093640230173900801

:bawling:

[Denver]

Such sad news but glad his family have peace of mind

[Mitchell]

Sad, but at least it gives them closure

[caprimint]

So so sad, RIP Emiliano :(

[Shaun]

Horrible. Hope the pilot is found and the search isn't just suspended because the celebrity victim has been found, though.

[Niamh.]

Horrible. Hope the pilot is found and the search isn't just suspended because the celebrity victim has been found, though.Yeah was thinking that too, for that reason I hoped it was the pilot

[AnnieK]

Yeah was thinking that too, for that reason I hoped it was the pilot

Me too. :sad: Glad one of them have been found but the pilot's family need the closure too.

RIP

[Cherie]

Very sad but hope they continue until they find the pilot

[Strictly Jake]

Awww I mean it's unfortunately obvious that he died but the fact they found his body confirms it to the family but at least they have closure and can put him to rest. RIP

[Nicky91]

RIP Emiliano :(

seems fishy though, is it really him, or did they say this to give family closure sorry to ask these questions, but i wonder how they have confirmed it was him


was there DNA confirmation it was Emiliano?

[Niamh.]

RIP Emiliano :(

seems fishy though, is it really him, or did they say this to give family closure sorry to ask these questions, but i wonder how they have confirmed it was him


was there DNA confirmation it was Emiliano?

Why? They would have confirmed it with dental records. I would say it would be highly illegal and extremely unethical to pretend they found him :skull:

[Strictly Jake]

RIP Emiliano :(

seems fishy though, is it really him, or did they say this to give family closure sorry to ask these questions, but i wonder how they have confirmed it was him


was there DNA confirmation it was Emiliano?

Nicky They didn't make it up

[Nicky91]

ok, it is sad news :sad: but at least closure for the family

[Nicky91]

Why? They would have confirmed it with dental records. I would say it would be highly illegal and extremely unethical to pretend they found him :skull:

yeah true, and hope the search keeps going on, for the pilot for also closure for his relatives/loved ones

[Nicky91]

i'd say Cardiff should pay Nantes the transfer money anyway, since he did sign the contract there in Cardiff, and this isn't breach of contract but more a sad tragic accident

if they didn't sign him, he wouldn't have gotten on this plane and probably still playing for Nantes as we speak


not pointing blame at cardiff as this was a tragic accident, more the blame at whoever wanted Emiliano to fly with such a small untrustworthy airplane as he said on whatsapp ''feels like the plane is breaking up'' so it wasn't in a good condition this plane, and yet they told him it was safe enough to fly in this plane

[Mystic Mock]

RIP Emiliano Sala.

Hopefully the Pilot will be found, and hopefully a small chance that he might be alive.

Such a tragic incident will not be forgotten by me personally as it could've been so easily avoided.

[Nicky91]

RIP Emiliano Sala.

Hopefully the Pilot will be found, and hopefully a small chance that he might be alive.

Such a tragic incident will not be forgotten by me personally as it could've been so easily avoided.

same for me Mock, his premier league dream never became reality :bawling:

[Cherie]

same for me Mock, his premier league dream never became reality :bawling:

I read he didn't even want to move, he was happy at Nantes and had been there since he was 15, it was a move driven by the Club as he was out of contract in 18 months and his agent

[Nicky91]

I read he didn't even want to move, he was happy at Nantes and had been there since he was 15, it was a move driven by the Club as he was out of contract in 18 months and his agent

oh, and if he was so long at Nantes, couldn't they just have offered him a new contract :shrug:


but we can talk about this all we want, i just am feeling more sad when i do, so let's not discuss the ifs anymore

don't want to feel sadder than i already am about this tragedy

[Eddie.]

Such a promising life cut short :(

That's why I won't EVER fly on small planes...

[Cherie]

oh, and if he was so long at Nantes, couldn't they just have offered him a new contract :shrug:


but we can talk about this all we want, i just am feeling more sad when i do, so let's not discuss the ifs anymore

don't want to feel sadder than i already am about this tragedy

I am not discussing 'ifs' I was just responding to you saying it was his dream


he was scoring goals and was 28 so it was time to sell him and make a profit

[michael21]

Horrible. Hope the pilot is found and the search isn't just suspended because the celebrity victim has been found, though.

celebrity victim who was human and has family

[Niamh.]

celebrity victim who was human and has familyI think you've missed the point Shaun was making

[michael21]

I think you've missed the point Shaun was making

Well iit sound disrespectful to the search team who are doing a dangers job which is not easy I sure the search will go on

[Niamh.]

Well iit sound disrespectful to the search team who are doing a dangers job which is not easy I sure the search will go onThe point is the search only resumed because some football players funded it so it's less likely to continue to be funded now the footballer has been found. Hopefully it will continue though.

[michael21]

The point is the search only resumed because some football players funded it so it's less likely to continue to be funded now the footballer has been found. Hopefully it will continue though.

OK paul heyman

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/emiliano-sala-pilot-david-ibbotsons-13972924


The daughter of missing pilot David Ibbotson has set up a crowd-funding page in a bid to restart the search for her missing father.

The campaign raised over £12,000 in its first five hours after being set up, with the target being £300,000.

[Denver]

Reports from an Argentinian journalist has said the pilot made a alot of basic errors including not using instruments to fly through clouds

[Denver]

A 64 year old man from Yorkshirr has been arrested on suspicion of Manslaughter by an unlawful act

[Cherie]

A 64 year old man from Yorkshirr has been arrested on suspicion of Manslaughter by an unlawful act

plane owner?

[Denver]

plane owner?

They not disclosed a name but I remember the original pilot pulled out but let the other one take him with no license

[Denver]

It was the original pilot who was arrested

[Nicky91]

It was the original pilot who was arrested

hmmm seems suspicious indeed, as in maybe this pilot knew the plane was faulty and didn't want to fly with it himself

:suspect:

[Denver]

They were exposed to harmful levels of carbon monoxide in the plane which could have been a reason why it crashed

[Nicky91]

why wasn't the AAIB's final report on this discussed in this topic?


but anyway that one was published in March 2020


It concluded that the pilot David Ibbotson was not licensed to fly the plane as his rating had expired in November 2018, and that he was not qualified to fly at night. The investigation stated that "neither the plane nor the pilot had the required licences or permissions to operate commercially." The report concluded that Sala would have been "deeply unconscious" due to carbon monoxide poisoning at the time of the crash, but that Ibbotson was still conscious and in control of the plane up to the time of the crash.

most important bits from that final report

[Crimson Dynamo]

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