Who is the queen of pop

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Nancy claims it is madonna and marsh claims it is gaga SO who is correct

[Matthew.]

Gemma ya silly ****

[RileyH]

Madge

[Jordan.]

Amy Studt

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I forgot to add option 3 (santigold)

[Marsh.]

The Gaga! Queen of the Universe!

[reece(:]

Badgalriri

out of these, our GranMadge

[Mokka]

Badgalriri

out of these, our GranMadge

Yeah... gotta give this one to madge

[Niamh.]

Madonna

[SherzyK]

I read this as queen of poo first :skull:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Madonna in her prime had better boobs

[Smithy]

This poll is dumb bc Carly Rae Jepsen is not an option

[TomC]

there is no right answer bc madonna abdicated to gaga in 2008

[DouglasS]

GaGa has been completely irrelevant since Born This Way album. She had a big era and then another average era and then disappeared. At least Madonna remained relevant for 3 decades.

[Daniel.]

Madge

[Marsh.]

The one with talent... Gaga.

[DouglasS]

Gaga never was. At least people like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, Rihanna remained relevant for many albujms rather than two.

[Marsh.]

GaGa has been completely irrelevant since Born This Way album. She had a big era and then another average era and then disappeared. At least Madonna remained relevant for 3 decades.

Nominated twice at next month's Oscars isn't relevant?

Okay.

[Braden]

Love both of them, but Madonna has 30+ years of discography and iconic moments behind her.

[Tony Montana]

The one who is actually called the ''Queen of pop''

[Marsh.]

GaGa has been completely irrelevant since Born This Way album. She had a big era.

Gaga never was.

Hmmm

[RileyH]

The Gaga! Queen of the Universe!

The one with talent... Gaga.

we get it

[SherzyK]

Gaga:love:

[Withano]

Madnna irritates me. So.

[SherzyK]

UjbolhVVCYU

[Marsh.]

we get it

Everybody knows you never get it love.

[DouglasS]

Nominated twice at next month's Oscars isn't relevant?

Okay.

Not really as a pop artist nope. She isn't solely nominated also its mainly due to Bradley Cooper. The song didn't even perform that well in all honesty. The Greatest Showman songs knocked it out the park in terms of relevancy and popularity. Shes still been irrel for years and has had a mini blip due to a film

[Amy Jade]

Ariana.

[TomC]

Not really as a pop artist nope. She isn't solely nominated also its mainly due to Bradley Cooper. The song didn't even perform that well in all honesty. The Greatest Showman songs knocked it out the park in terms of relevancy and popularity. Shes still been irrel for years and has had a mini blip due to a film

Umm she has done sooo much since 2011. Two critically and commercially successful albums, starring role in AHS, SBHTS performance, and ASIB.

[TomC]

Ariana.

Not with a song like 7 Rings.

[Smithy]

Not really as a pop artist nope. She isn't solely nominated also its mainly due to Bradley Cooper. The song didn't even perform that well in all honesty. The Greatest Showman songs knocked it out the park in terms of relevancy and popularity. Shes still been irrel for years and has had a mini blip due to a film

Nominated as a best actress because of Bradley cooper?

Gotta love logic!

[Marsh.]

Not really as a pop artist nope. She isn't solely nominated also its mainly due to Bradley Cooper. The song didn't even perform that well in all honesty. The Greatest Showman songs knocked it out the park in terms of relevancy and popularity. Shes still been irrel for years and has had a mini blip due to a film

A lot of research there for someone irrelevant.

[SherzyK]

Didn’t she win a golden globe for her role in AHS hotel? And an Oscar nomination too!

Far from irrelevancy

[Smithy]

Umm she has done sooo much since 2011. Two critically and commercially successful albums, starring role in AHS, SBHTS performance, and ASIB.

+ 2 sold out world tours and what’s looking to be one of the most successful Vegas shows of all time



But anyway this thread is dumb, both these women have incredible careers regardless

[Amy Jade]

A mini blip being nominated for an Oscar for best actress

https://i.imgur.com/Uk1LONL.gif

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Umm she has done sooo much since 2011. Two critically and commercially successful albums, starring role in AHS, SBHTS performance, and ASIB.

Where? :suspect:

[Daniel.]

Did marsh even like gaga before her country album

[Daniel.]

Umm she has done sooo much since 2011. Two critically and commercially successful albums, starring role in AHS, SBHTS performance, and ASIB.

Pity none of her albums are critically acclaimed

[Greg!]

Pity none of her albums are critically acclaimed

What

[Daniel-X]

Not too fussed on either of them tbh but I think I probably bop to Gags more

[Greg!]

Gags obviously. Madge needs to adopt African children to stay in the limelight and her recent music is dire. 73 years old and singing about getting turnt and taking drugs, it’s all just a bit embarrassing really

[brat.]

Mabel

[Smithy]

Where? :suspect:

Cheek to Cheek and Joanne we’re both positively received(so was ASIB if we’re counting)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Cheek to Cheek and Joanne we’re both positively received(so was ASIB if we’re counting)

67 on meta = critical acclaim?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/dae68ddd7c60fd480c71df7e4f8cf4fb/tenor.gif?itemid=5043569

[Smithy]

67 on meta = critical acclaim?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/dae68ddd7c60fd480c71df7e4f8cf4fb/tenor.gif?itemid=5043569

Girl who said they were critically acclaimed? They said critically successful? I.e not panned?

[DouglasS]

Pity none of her albums are critically acclaimed

we love truth

GaGa barely sells records. Her last three albums all flopped massively lets be honest and stop hiding behind her jumping into TV/movies as her music career was doing awfully and she'd became irrel

[Marsh.]

Did marsh even like gaga before her country album

She hasn't done a country album sweetie.

[TomC]

Girl who said they were critically acclaimed? They said critically successful? I.e not panned?

This, I used my words very carefully :laugh:


But anyway this thread is dumb, both these women have incredible careers regardless
.

[Marsh.]

we love truth

GaGa barely sells records. Her last three albums all flopped massively lets be honest and stop hiding behind her jumping into TV/movies as her music career was doing awfully and she'd became irrel

She didn't though? Her acting has always been done alongside her music.

Unlike a lot of people, she can do both.

[Daniel.]

She hasn't done a country album sweetie.

Agree that its best forgotten but Joanne had those country vibes

[TomC]

we love truth

GaGa barely sells records. Her last three albums all flopped massively lets be honest and stop hiding behind her jumping into TV/movies as her music career was doing awfully and she'd became irrel

um which ones are you referring to? gaga's recent albums are only considered 'flops' bc of how well tf/tfm/btw did, which was unsustainable for anyone.

you're just trying to justify your own personal dislike of her with some reaches.

[TomC]

Agree that its best forgotten but Joanne had those country vibes

it's not just a country album.

[Marsh.]

Agree that its best forgotten but Joanne had those country vibes

Country vibes alongside many other influences, yes.

It's called art. :hee:

[Smithy]

um which ones are you referring to? gaga's recent albums are only considered 'flops' bc of how well tf/tfm/btw did, which was unsustainable for anyone.

you're just trying to justify your own personal dislike of her with some reaches.

Tea, esp considering her studio solo albums were amongst the best selling female albums of their respective years and ASIB is the best selling album released in 2018 of 2018

[Daniel.]

Country vibes alongside many other influences, yes.

It's called art. :hee:

I have to laugh

[Marsh.]

I have to laugh

Why? Are you listening to Miley Cyrus? :hee:

[Daniel.]

Why? Are you listening to Miley Cyrus? :hee:

No? :unsure: I don’t like Miley

[Liam-]

Miss Kesha

[Shaun]

it's a title literally invented for Madonna so it's a silly and tiring argument

but yeah it's actually Taylor Dayne

[Cal.]

Rihanna

[Nicky91]

Madonna, her career has been around for so long and still making good music (still doing well in charts too among the youth)


maybe Gaga can be on that throne one day when her career is as long as madge her career is now

[caprimint]

Bebe Rexha with her FGL country duet

(But Gaga >>>>>>>> Madonna)

[Crimson Dynamo]

without Madonna Gaga would not exist

so

[Mystic Mock]

I have a thing for Rihanna, Beyonce and Katy Perry aren't bad either.:smug:

Talent wise and song wise I'd say that Sia is my favourite.

[Mystic Mock]

Out of the two I'd pick Gaga as she can actually sing, I'm not keen on either of their Music that much though.

[Niamh.]

I think GaGa is more talented of the two but Madonna is more iconic and I prefer her songs (the 80's/90's stuff anyway)

[joeysteele]

I really like both.
However it has to be Madonna.

[Marsh.]

without Madonna Gaga would not exist

so

Not her giving birth to her.

[Niamh.]

If I just closed this Poll now, TiBB would be at peace

[Smithy]

If I just closed this Poll now, TiBB would be at peace

Do it!

Scott only made the thread to make is seem like he was a bias little ***

[Marsh.]

Change the poll to "Should Sullen Girl be perma'd?"

[Niamh.]

Do it!

Scott only made the thread to make is seem like he was a bias little ***

Or I could close it now instead :fan:

[Smithy]

Or I could close it now instead :fan:

Ok? :suspect:

[Smithy]

:joker: The other thread. In regards to her Queen of Pop status, no other artist is referred to AS the Queen of Pop because they haven't made as much of an impact as she has and ever will.

Some of the following links are from credible music magazines like Rolling Stone, Billboard and NME - and they ALL say M is the Queen of Pop, so a poll on TIBB (created to annoy M fans while desperately trying to score brownie points from others) quite frankly means bugger all, tbh. :joker:

It's strange how we never see anybody try to dethrone and strip Michael Jackson of his "King Of Pop" status by saying Justin Timberlake, Chris Brown, or Justin Bieber" is the King of Pop (even though MJ's been dead for 10 years). Elvis Presley is still referred to as "The King of Rock N Roll" and we don't see anyone trying to steal that from him. Donna Summer is also still known as the "Queen of Disco" and anyone with any knowledge of music should know this.

Madonna will always be the Queen of Pop and nothing can change that. Even those who previously bagged themselves an Oscar win / nomination didn't increase their chances of snatching Madonna's crown from her. Diana Ross didn't become the Queen of Pop, Disco, Jazz or anything else, Neither did Barbra Streisand or Cher, and it won't happen to anybody else either.

Billboard:
https://www.billboard.com/articles/list/499398/madonnas-40-biggest-billboard-hits

Entertainment Weekly:
https://ew.com/music/2018/08/15/madonnas-60-best-singles-ranked/

Mojo:
https://www.mojo4music.com/articles/18535/madonna-world-exclusive-interview-in-latest-mojo

NME:
https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/madonna-underappreciated-queen-of-pop-4216

https://www.cleveland.com/music/index.ssf/2013/08/30_years_of_madonna_how_the_qu.html

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/madonna-reminds-the-world-she-is-still-the-queen-of-pop-on-her-60th-birthday-37222112.html

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/madonna-at-60-playlist-10-best-songs-a8482711.html

https://www.no1magazine.co.uk/2016/05/21/5-reasons-madonna-queen-pop/

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madonna-60th-birthday-moments_us_5b749926e4b02b415d7512d7

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-45112992

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/happy-birthday-madonna-queen-pop-turns-60/story?id=57208960

https://www.dw.com/en/madonna-at-60-from-college-dropout-to-the-queen-of-pop/a-45089091

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1004149/Madonna-pictures-60-birthday-best-pics

https://www.thenational.ae/lifestyle/fashion/the-queen-of-pop-turns-60-madonna-s-best-moments-in-pictures-1.760635

https://twentytwowords.com/facts-about-madonna-queen-of-pop/

https://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/1004202/madonna-birthday-60-life-review

https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/6925458/madonna-celebrate-60th-birthday-fabulous-magazine-pays-tribute-queen-of-pop/

https://www.warnermusic.com.au/news/heres-why-madonna-is-musics-ultimate-queen

https://www.vogue.com/article/madonna-birthday-and-style-through-the-ages

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/magazines/panache/madonna-says-she-didnt-intend-for-a-aretha-franklin-tribute-at-mtv-awards-after-facing-backlash/articleshow/65500481.cms

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madonna-60th-birthday-moments_us_5b749926e4b02b415d7512d7

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/entertainment/madonna-at-60-the-queen-of-pops-fashion-hits-and-misses-862329.html

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/madonna-birthday-60-years-old-60th-what-she-means-to-me_uk_5b73f64ce4b02b415d73e479

https://muumuse.com/2018/08/happy-60th-birthday-madonna-queen-of-pop.html/

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/madonna-at-60-happy-birthday-queen-of-pop-here-are-her-10-biggest-moments-a3912741.html

https://www.digitalspy.com/music/a812470/the-surprising-stories-behind-6-of-madonnas-biggest-hits/

https://www.chron.com/life/celebrities/article/Madonna-the-queen-of-pop-turns-60-today-13160428.php

https://planetradio.co.uk/magic/entertainment/music/madonna-pop-career/

https://www.pride.com/celebrities/2019/1/18/queen-pop-madonna-planning-2019-world-tour

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/madonna-60-secrets-queen-pops-13086359

http://tass.com/society/1017501

https://www.designscene.net/2017/01/madonna-harpers-bazaar.html

http://www.digitaljournal.com/entertainment/music/queen-of-pop-madonna-launches-birthday-fundraiser-on-social-media/article/528340

https://dailytimes.com.pk/284285/the-queen-of-pop-madonna-turns-60-today/

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/video/happy-birthday-madonna-queen-pop-turns-60-57213617

http://www.thenationalstudent.com/Music/2018-08-16/celebrating_madonna_at_60_underrated_songs_from_th e_queen_of_pop.html

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20180816/sports/308169980

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/lifestyle/entertainment/madonna-reminds-the-world-she-is-still-the-queen-of-pop-on-her-60th-birthday/

https://www.designmynight.com/london/clubs/clapham/the-clapham-grand/madonna-60-years-of-the-queens-of-pop


This thread is clearly upsetting Nancy so I think it should be closed and we can just leave it :nono:

[Niamh.]

Ok? :suspect:Madonna was winning when I posted that :oh:

[Jessica.]

Gaga

[Gstar]

There's no competition

[Gstar]

Madonna (nancy is right) 17 50.00%
Gaga (marsh is right) 17 50.00%

Oop

[Saph]

Amy Studt

um where is the lie tho???????