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Crimson Dynamo
24-01-2019, 11:29 AM
I reckon I last had some about 20 years ago, maybe more but some people pop them like smarties and now its a BIG problemo
when was your last time?
and are YOU part of the problem?
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Drug-resistant superbugs are as big a threat as climate change, the health secretary will say as he unveils a new five-year plan to tackle the problem.
Overuse of antibiotics is making infections harder to treat and leading to thousands of deaths a year through drug-resistant superbugs.
The government plans to change the way it funds drug companies to encourage them to develop new medicines.
It is also increasing efforts to cut unnecessary use of the drugs.
Drug-resistant superbugs are as big a threat as climate change, the health secretary will say as he unveils a new five-year plan to tackle the problem.
Overuse of antibiotics is making infections harder to treat and leading to thousands of deaths a year through drug-resistant superbugs.
The government plans to change the way it funds drug companies to encourage them to develop new medicines.
It is also increasing efforts to cut unnecessary use of the drugs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46973641
Niamh.
24-01-2019, 11:30 AM
Years ago aswell for a gum infection.
Marsh.
24-01-2019, 11:40 AM
Erm. I actually can't even remember.
I think mine was for an abscess when the left side of my face swelled up like a balloon. About 12 years ago or so.
the other important thing is to always finish the course of antibiotics once you have started, and not stop when you feel a bit better. That's why the superbugs build up resistance
Jessica.
24-01-2019, 11:12 PM
3+ times last year for tonsillitis :(
montblanc
24-01-2019, 11:13 PM
never had 'em :hugesmile:
LaLaLand
24-01-2019, 11:14 PM
September, had a tooth abscess.
Scarlett.
25-01-2019, 01:03 AM
I only take them when the doctor tells me, which is probably twice in my life lol
I don't get why some people take them for headaches... like... wat
Shaun
25-01-2019, 06:01 AM
I'm lucky in that I've only ever needed to take them once (when I had tonsilitis, nine years ago)... but this is something we should be far more worried about than we currently are. All it takes is one superbug to wipe us all out, or get really close to it.
I used to be a regular sufferer of tonsillitis, so have taken them many times. But the last few times I've taken them, they've give me nose bleeds. So I'm quite cautious of taking them now.
Cherie
25-01-2019, 06:17 AM
Only a few times for tonsillitis, last time was about 10 years ago
AnnieK
25-01-2019, 06:25 AM
I actually can't remember. Think it was back when I was a teenager when I had a rubbish doctor who had virtually finished writing the prescription for them before you'd even got into the surgery. My son was prescribed them once but I couldn't get him to take the medicine so he has never had them....(and his ear infection cleared up on its own).
Northern Monkey
25-01-2019, 06:46 AM
Er let me think.There was Chlamydia,Gonorrhoea,Syphilis,Genital warts,Tonsillitis,Chest infection.
Apart from that no.Never.
armand.kay
25-01-2019, 07:15 AM
I had a gum infection a few years ago so had to take them for about a week. Before that though I don't think I had ever taken any
arista
25-01-2019, 07:22 AM
Yes Profits are needed for the makers
they do not like these headlines this week.
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 07:29 AM
The -only- times you should take antibiotics are when you have an infection that your body can't clear by itself. NOT to speed up recovery! The only exception to that would be where the infection persisting for longer could cause damage to your body (e.g. bacterial conjunctivitis can permanently affect your eyesight, bad UTI's can lead to kidney infections and permanently damage kidney function, etc.)
We avoid them whenever possible, my last course was a couple of years ago for bacterial conjunctivitis (and I did leave it slightly too long, and it has affected my eyesight slightly :( ). I was told a couple of years ago by a doctor, when I had strep tonsillitis, that it "definitely" wouldn't clear without antibiotics and had them thrust upon me... I didn't take them and it cleared in 3 days. In truth, a healthy immune system is perfectly capable of clearing most bacterial infections and you really want to take as few as possible so that they're as EFFECTIVE as possible if you really need them (e.g. horrible eye infection, pneumonia, or sepsis which is a huge killer).
My eldest had them recently for Scarlet Fever - the first case the local GP has seen for decades :joker:. Can't remember the last time my wife had them (potentially a decade) and my youngest has never had any.
the other important thing is to always finish the course of antibiotics once you have started, and not stop when you feel a bit better. That's why the superbugs build up resistance
The research on this has been updated and the medical adive is slowly catching up to the new research. Antibiotics should be stopped as soon as it's confirmed that the infection is cleared and continuing a long course needlessly (say, a 10 day course when the infection has cleared in 5) is actually increasing the risk of antibiotic resistance, not lowering it.
NHS advice is still to finish the course "pending further study" but based on current indications, the advice is likely to change at some point in the next decade-or-so.
The only risk of resistant strains developing is if the infection manages to take hold again, or if the immune system can't clear the last of it without assistance. If it's confirmed to be clear (through a test) it's safe to stop.
Mystic Mock
25-01-2019, 07:37 AM
I think the Doctor prescribed them to me about 6 or 7 years ago when I had a really bad chest infection that wouldn't clear up by itself, I remember my poor Niece catching it off me during one of the times my Sister came over to see us.
Crimson Dynamo
25-01-2019, 08:17 AM
Erm. I actually can't even remember.
I think mine was for an abscess when the left side of my face swelled up like a balloon. About 12 years ago or so.
that is when i got mine too, same thing with the swelling
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 08:39 AM
I do know a few people who pop to the doctors for antibiotics for every little thing, though. It's also a huge problem in the US because they have this twisted "medical culture" where they frankly just do not trust the human body to do its job and there's a prevailing idea that "if you get sick, you need medicine!". Leads to people constantly popping antibiotics for viral infections :facepalm:.
But then this is a society that is utterly convinced that you will "probably definitely likely DIE" if you get measles, and is well on the way to becoming terrified by ****ing chicken pox and the bog standard flu.
smudgie
25-01-2019, 08:54 AM
I haven’t had any this year.
Not sure how many times I had them last year. Not many though.
I have next to no immune system so the slightest sign of any infection and I am given antibiotics, that is if I see the doctor of course.:hehe:
thesheriff443
25-01-2019, 09:05 AM
Micro organisms will adapt/mutat to survive, just like rats will start to become imune to the poison in the corn they are fed.
Doctors don’t like giving out antibiotics in most cases, and most cases they don’t work.
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 09:21 AM
Micro organisms will adapt/mutat to survive, just like rats will start to become imune to the poison in the corn they are fed.
Doctors don’t like giving out antibiotics in most cases, and most cases they don’t work.
Depends on the doctor, some still throw them around like tic-tacs unfortunately.
It's not just the resistance of the bacterial strain itself that is a problem; a person as an individual can end up "antibiotic-resistant" if they repeatedly have the same variety, and like I said above, that is a MAJOR problem if you find yourself in hospital with something like bacterial meningitis, pneumonia or sepsis. You'll be put on AV antibiotics but if they don't work quickly you can go downhill fast.
Cherie
25-01-2019, 01:12 PM
Erm. I actually can't even remember.
I think mine was for an abscess when the left side of my face swelled up like a balloon. About 12 years ago or so.
that is when i got mine too, same thing with the swelling
has it gone down you two?
Livia
25-01-2019, 01:22 PM
Do people really bully their doctor into giving them antibiotics? Shouldn't the doctor be the one to say no?
My mam is a nurse and knows the strain on the NHS as it is so won’t let us go to the doctors for little things. I’m a bit ashamed to say I have the flu and begged her to let me go the doctors this morning for antibiotics but she refused! My auntie is terrible for it though. One of her kids only has to sneeze and she’s down the GP surgery battering the receptionists for drugs.
Niamh.
25-01-2019, 01:47 PM
Antibiotics don't even cure flu though, do they?
Niamh.
25-01-2019, 02:14 PM
My mam forbid me anyway
Good for your mam :nono:
arista
25-01-2019, 02:16 PM
Antibiotics don't even cure flu though, do they?
Yes
They should not be used for that.
Tom4784
25-01-2019, 02:19 PM
I can't remember the last time I was on antibiotics. I try to avoid them when it's possible and prefer to see if Paracetemol and Ibuprofen works before seeing the doctor and going on anything stronger.
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 02:25 PM
Antibiotics don't even cure flu though, do they?
They would do literally nothing, might as well be prescribed a bag of Haribo (except those would taste better :joker: )
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 02:26 PM
In fact I say they would do nothing... they would do something. They would kill good gut bacteria and give a nasty case of the skitters, alongside the original flu :joker:.
Marsh.
25-01-2019, 06:09 PM
My mam is a nurse and knows the strain on the NHS as it is so won’t let us go to the doctors for little things. I’m a bit ashamed to say I have the flu and begged her to let me go the doctors this morning for antibiotics but she refused! My auntie is terrible for it though. One of her kids only has to sneeze and she’s down the GP surgery battering the receptionists for drugs.
:joker:
Marsh.
25-01-2019, 06:10 PM
has it gone down you two?
No. Why do you think I was nicknamed the Elephant Man?
GoldHeart
25-01-2019, 06:34 PM
I can't remember the last time I was on antibiotics. I try to avoid them when it's possible and prefer to see if Paracetemol and Ibuprofen works before seeing the doctor and going on anything stronger.
I always thought Antibiotics were for more serious illnesses / conditions anyway .
I reckon I last had some about 20 years ago, maybe more but some people pop them like smarties and now its a BIG problemo
when was your last time?
and are YOU part of the problem?
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14EB0/production/_105308658_gettyimages-692560202.jpg
Drug-resistant superbugs are as big a threat as climate change, the health secretary will say as he unveils a new five-year plan to tackle the problem.
Overuse of antibiotics is making infections harder to treat and leading to thousands of deaths a year through drug-resistant superbugs.
The government plans to change the way it funds drug companies to encourage them to develop new medicines.
It is also increasing efforts to cut unnecessary use of the drugs.
Drug-resistant superbugs are as big a threat as climate change, the health secretary will say as he unveils a new five-year plan to tackle the problem.
Overuse of antibiotics is making infections harder to treat and leading to thousands of deaths a year through drug-resistant superbugs.
The government plans to change the way it funds drug companies to encourage them to develop new medicines.
It is also increasing efforts to cut unnecessary use of the drugs.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-46973641
I tell you what my darling...xx
I had a really bad back, if I sat in a van for too long I would hobble up to the front door like my granny did when she was in her 90s...then I pulled my big toenail out...it's been 1.5 yrs and nothing since.
Toy Soldier
25-01-2019, 07:31 PM
I always thought Antibiotics were for more serious illnesses / conditions anyway .They're for bacterial infections that are too much for your immune system to handle alone.
... But srsly guys get them if you get bacterial conjunctivitis. I waited too long and now my previously 20/20 eyesight is damaged :bawling:. Distance + light + letters and numbers is a problem... So e.g. Subtitles on a screen more than about 8 feet away, or car number plates but only at night, blurry AF now but nothing else :think:.
Babayaro.
25-01-2019, 07:39 PM
Few weeks ago when I got bit by a stray dog :)
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