Troye Sivan wonders: 'if I'd be more commercially successful if I wasn’t gay'

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Troye Sivan has discussed the relationship between his sexuality and his commercial success to date as a pop star in a new interview.

Speaking on a podcast, the Youth singer said: ‘Part of me wonders sometimes if I would be more commercially successful if I wasn’t gay or not as “in your face gay”.

The star has scored two top 10 albums in the US – 2015’s Blue Neighbourhood and 2018’s Bloom. His EPs – 2014’s TRXYE and 2015’s Wild – also went top 10.

Troye made the comments on British singer and 2001 Pop Idol winner Will Young’s Homo Sapiens podcast.

‘We don’t have a queer Taylor Swift’
On it, Troye says: ‘I have a great management team and great label, and I haven’t had this conversation with anyone else in fear because I hate it, hate it, hate it when pop stars sound bitter, or blame any sort of lack of success on anything other than for themselves. I don’t want to come across like I’m saying that at all, but this just feels like a safe space where we can have an open conversation.’

He furthermore continued: ‘Part of me wonders sometimes if I would be more commercially successful if I wasn’t gay or not as “in your face gay”. I think we’re in a really interesting time in music right now where we are seeing more and more queer artists pop up, but we don’t have a queer Taylor Swift, we don’t have a queer Rihanna, or a queer Beyoncé.

‘It’s not there yet I don’t think, though it feels very exciting to be where we are, I still feel like there’s a really tall mountain to climb. Sometimes it can be frustrating because I’m giving my all and not having some humongous radio smash all over the world.’

‘Is the world actually ready?’
He also added: ‘100% could just be on the music, maybe the music just isn’t good enough, maybe the world is obsessed with hip hop right now and I’m making the furthest thing from hip hop. It could be a myriad other things, but a part of me wonders sometimes, is the world actually ready right now for what I’m trying to be?’

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Sam Smith sweetie..

[Liam-]

Yeah, sausage smoking is the reason you’re not hugely successful hun

[Wizard.]

Sweetie it’s cause your songs are crap

[Braden]

Literally know none of his songs, but know he's gay.

[Smithy]

You’re a basic white twink that’s only famous because daddy is rich and bought you studio time and a record deal, if you were straight you’d have even less success because not even the gays would be checking for you

[Mitchell]

King

[Rob!]

I thought he was more successful because Tyler Oakley is gay myself.

[Oliver_W]

I hate when people use the word "queer", it's so grating...

Anyway, I only know him as "that gay singer", I don't even know any of his songs.

[RileyH]

He's so annoying

[Greg!]

Sweetie it’s cause your songs are crap

Tea omg...

His best song is 1999 and that’s only bc Charli wrote it

[Jordan.]

The truth of the matter is you're **** and you know you're **** and THAT is the truth of the matter.

[Oliver_W]

The truth of the matter is you're **** and you know you're **** and THAT is the truth of the matter.

Rachel Lester <3

[Shaun]

all of these hateful bitches overlooking Bloom smh

it was better than Sweetener and THAT is the truth!

[Beso]

What I don't get is why gay people demand equality yet always bring up the gay card if anything isn't going their way...this cretin is the worst I've seen today, so far.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe dont do interviews with Gay Star News?

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Dam so much hate, and pettiness. Take a step back from your keyboards and take a long hard look at yourselves.

Troye has released so many great songs and had made huge success with his music so step on back.

[TomC]

I hate when people use the word "queer", it's so grating...
.

Why?

[Smithy]

Dam so much hate, and pettiness. Take a step back from your keyboards and take a long hard look at yourselves.

Troye has released so many great songs and had made huge success with his music so step on back.

And yet he’s the one complaining?

[Lostie!]

What I don't get is why gay people demand equality yet always bring up the gay card if anything isn't going their way...this cretin is the worst I've seen today, so far.

Do we? Always? I must be doing Gay wrong, I'll try harder.

[Oliver_W]

Why?

It's only really used by weirdo activists who think they're "reclaiming a slur", when to the majority of people it still is a slur. I don't get why some people add it to the end of LGBT, when it just means gay. There's no need for it!

[armand.kay]

What I don't get is why gay people demand equality yet always bring up the gay card if anything isn't going their way...this cretin is the worst I've seen today, so far.

how can they even begin to ask for equality without bringing up the ‘gay card’??? dnhfusocnfj reading this made me dizzy

[armand.kay]

but in regards to Troye, his music is ****.

[Niamh.]

Do we? Always? I must be doing Gay wrong, I'll try harder.

:laugh:

[Wizard.]

You’re a basic white twink that’s only famous because daddy is rich and bought you studio time and a record deal, if you were straight you’d have even less success because not even the gays would be checking for you

This! Also has he never heard of Elton John or Freddie Mercury? Bitch please! And why do we need a gay Taylor Swift? Oh because he wants to be earning hundreds of millions instead of just a few millions.

[Wizard.]

It's only really used by weirdo activists who think they're "reclaiming a slur", when to the majority of people it still is a slur. I don't get why some people add it to the end of LGBT, when it just means gay. There's no need for it!

Yeah, but, Queer is a cultural term, and that's a fact! There is queer music, queer literature, queer art, even, y'know, queer porn!

[TomC]

Yeah, but, Queer is a cultural term, and that's a fact! There is queer music, queer literature, queer art, even, y'know, queer porn!

This! I’m reading Queer Theory atm!
It doesn’t really matter it’s still used as a slur...
As far as I’m concerned ‘queer’ is pretty much synonymous with LGBT

[Ant.]

I know him as "that gay singer" and know none of his songs so really he should be thankful he's a twink!

[Oliver_W]

This! I’m reading Queer Theory atm!
It doesn’t really matter it’s still used as a slur...
As far as I’m concerned ‘queer’ is pretty much synonymous with LGBT
Is Queer Theory as cringey as it sounds?

Yeah, but, Queer is a cultural term, and that's a fact! There is queer music, queer literature, queer art, even, y'know, queer porn!
gay music*
gay literature*
gay art*
gay porn*

[TomC]

Is Queer Theory as cringey as it sounds?


gay music*
gay literature*
gay art*
gay porn*

It’s the queer equivalent of feminist theory :umm2:

You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.

[Glenn.]

What I don't get is why gay people demand equality yet always bring up the gay card if anything isn't going their way...this cretin is the worst I've seen today, so far.

‘don’t get why gay people demand equality’

Stopped reading after this

[montblanc]

‘don’t get why gay people demand equality’

Stopped reading after this

it’s the same bull**** as ‘well if women want equality then they should...’ like as if equality is something that has to be earned rather than already given. it’s a stupid argument

[Glenn.]

Preach it

[Oliver_W]

This! Also has he never heard of Elton John or Freddie Mercury? Bitch please! And why do we need a gay Taylor Swift? Oh because he wants to be earning hundreds of millions instead of just a few millions.
Wow, just imagine how big they'd have gotten if the public thought they went to the fishmongers instead of the cheese market. They'd be internationally and intergenerationally loved and admired or something.


You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.
I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

[montblanc]

Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol.

yes they are :skull: come on now

[montblanc]

discrimination comes in many forms

[brat.]

Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol.

... did you not see what happened to jussie the other day

[Smithy]

I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8208e75b85af84f8b1b9852783907c3d/tenor.gif?itemid=11193118

[Withano]

Literally know none of his songs, but know he's gay.

And thats why you refuse to listen to them? He was right!

[Withano]

It’s the queer equivalent of feminist theory :umm2:

You’re very out of touch with your community if you don’t understand the word ‘queer’.

Was thinking the same thing but couldn’t be bothered to say it haha

[Withano]

To be honest, in his specific instance, i dont think he’d be half as famous if he was straight. His fanbase came from YouTube and most of them probs would’ve cared less about a young effeminate straight kid.

[Oliver_W]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8208e75b85af84f8b1b9852783907c3d/tenor.gif?itemid=11193118
hahaha, I don't think I'm particularly unique or "one of the good ones", everyone is different - I'm different to you, you're different to Ant, etc. I was just illustrating how I see the "gay community" as a little redundant.

... did you not see what happened to jussie the other day
The allegations made by Jesse describe a terrible event, and I hope those behind it get what's coming to them. But to say that's representative of the West as a whole is as silly as someone who says "The mozlum's r taken over" when they walk past a halal shop.

yes they are :skull: come on now
I've not seen that in day to day life, nor has anyone in my family or friends.

[TomC]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/8208e75b85af84f8b1b9852783907c3d/tenor.gif?itemid=11193118

Lol a drag queen is the perfect way to respond



I'm okay with that, does the "gay community" even have a need anymore? Gays aren't a downtrodden underclass anymore lol. I feel more community with that tattooed weirdo I see on rock music night at the pub, than I do most of the gays from my local gaybar.

To say we aren’t a ‘downtrodden underclass’ is an extremely crude over-simplification. I have no idea what your experiences have been, but to say that there’s no need for a pro-LGBT movement is highly ignorant. And anyway, even if we did achieve equality, that doesn’t mean the community needn’t exist.

If you don’t want to identify with the community, fine, but don’t drag them down.

[brat.]

I've not seen that in day to day life, nor has anyone in my family or friends.

just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen ??

[TomC]

just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen ??

This. Terrible mentality.

[Braden]

And thats why you refuse to listen to them? He was right!

Oh, honey, I wouldn't even know Troye Sivan existed if it weren't for all the media outlets I follow on social media discussing his sexuality :p

[Niamh.]

Never heard of him

[Twosugars]

yes they are :skull: come on now
Oliver is on the right, Monteh
things are always right if you're on the right ;)
it's easier: if you don't acknowledge there's problem you don't have to deal with it

[Oliver_W]

Oliver is on the right, Monteh
things are always right if you're on the right ;)
it's easier: if you don't acknowledge there's problem you don't have to deal with it

Why bring up the fact I'm on the right? That has nothing to do with anything, least of all gayness; even (most!) right wing politics are either indifferent or supportive toward homos.