Emily didnt say chanelle has a gameplan and Emily clearly lied.................. (merged)

[Billy]

She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

[Chrizzle]

Who are you, Emily?

[Billy]

Nope

[Richie]

LMAO!

Sorry but I'm finding this HILARIOUS that the Emily fangirls/boys can't hack that Emily is an evil bitch.

This topic is so funny :laugh:

[Camomile]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Exactly.

[Amy21]

Emily DID say Chanelle had a game plan. She is a lying bitch!!!!! :mad:. And guess what she so going to be voted out on Friday for that now. So get used to it.

Vote Emily out everyone you know its the right thing to do.

[Bells]

Were you watching the show?

[Jay]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Huh? you just admitted Emily did say it by saying ME and the girls have been talking bout it.

[Billy]

Amy dont be too sure .. the show hasnt affected her odds that much, and she quite clearly didnt say she HAD a gameplan, they were discussing the possibility of her having one.

[ShadowEye]

She said it, but she shouldn't have denied it, after all, she was 100% correct if you ask me.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Huh? you just admitted Emily did say it by saying ME and the girls have been talking bout it.

No, they were discussing the possibility of Chanelle having a gameplan. Emily did not say CHANELLE HAS A GAMEPLAN

[ShadowEye]

Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Huh? you just admitted Emily did say it by saying ME and the girls have been talking bout it.

"Does Chanelle have a game plan, and is that why she's sleeping with Ziggy?" That's talking about her having a game plan without saying "She has a game plan". Admittedly, I think she sees Chanelle as having a game plan, but I think she's right, and shouldn't have denied it later.

[Chrizzle]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Huh? you just admitted Emily did say it by saying ME and the girls have been talking bout it.

No, they were discussing the possibility of Chanelle having a gameplan. Emily did not say CHANELLE HAS A GAMEPLAN

Omfg technicality.
She did say Chanelle has a gameplan, but she didnt say the exact words.
So Emily is still in the wrong. So what the frick are you on about?

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Chrizzle
Who are you, Emily?

Great reply, that will surely entice new users to post again.

And the origional poster, your correct. I heard that, but it was twisted and warped. Suddenly she was then accused of saying something completley different!

It's amazing what some people base there hate upon.

[Princess]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Thats the same thing!

[Camomile]

Originally posted by Amy21
Emily DID say Chanelle had a game plan. She is a lying bitch!!!!! :mad:. And guess what she so going tobe voted out on Friday for that now. So get used to it.

Vote Emily out everyone you know its the right thing to do.

It will be boring for you if Emily is evicted,cause you won't have anyone to hate in there. :D

[Jay]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Originally posted by Jay
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
She didn't say "Emily has a game plan" she said "Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

Huh? you just admitted Emily did say it by saying ME and the girls have been talking bout it.

No, they were discussing the possibility of Chanelle having a gameplan. Emily did not say CHANELLE HAS A GAMEPLAN

She was still involved in the discussion and agreed with them, i didn't see her say i don't think she had one.

[Billy]

No, but a group of them were DISCUSSING it. They were NOT saying that she ahd one at all. They wre discussing the possibility of her haqving one

[Bells]

Emily was also having a chat in the diary room about it... if you love her, you just look past every little thing and try to make it good. There's probably no point in me even trying. But I'll say it anyway - in the DR, she was talking about how she thought it was clever that Chanelle was getting into bed with him, and that she should do the same tonight but the damage was done...

If you thought it was a joke, fine, but I wasn't laughing! And neither were a lot of people. What she means is so clear - does she think all the viewers are thick or something?!

[ShadowEye]

Am I the only one who finds the word "bitch", used in the context being used to describe Emily, is always unpleasant to hear, its just unnecessary.

[Billy]

To be honest Ash I took that as sarcasm, even the way she said it was sarcastic

[Amy21]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Amy dont be too sure .. the show hasnt affected her odds that much, and she quite clearly didnt say she HAD a gameplan, they were discussing the possibility of her having one.

Her odds can change overnight just you wait. And we will see who really goes on Friday wont we. And then we can all laugh at you then for supporting a lying two faced bitch like Emily.

Be careful what you say when quoting other posters it could seem you are insulting another member and with that comes a warning and a ban - Red

[Chrizzle]

Originally posted by Ash
Emily was also having a chat in the diary room about it... if you love her, you just look past every little thing and try to make it good. There's probably no point in me even trying. But I'll say it anyway - in the DR, she was talking about how she thought it was clever that Chanelle was getting into bed with him, and that she should do the same tonight but the damage was done...

If you thought it was a joke, fine, but I wasn't laughing! And neither were a lot of people. What she means is so clear - does she think all the viewers are thick or something?!

Summed it up perfectly. Karma !

[Billy]

Originally posted by Amy21
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
Amy dont be too sure .. the show hasnt affected her odds that much, and she quite clearly didnt say she HAD a gameplan, they were discussing the possibility of her having one.

Her odds can change overnight just you wait. And we will see who really goes on Friday wont we. And then we can all laugh at you then for supporting a lying two faced bitch like Emily.

Amy i think your being really aggressive for no reason. There will be no need to laugh at anyone for who they support.

[Bells]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
To be honest Ash I took that as sarcasm, even the way she said it was sarcastic

Fair point, but I didn't think it was amusing. Whether it was sarcastic or not, she said it, and the impression she's been giving all along is that - you can see it in her body language and the way she speaks. Ziggy mentioning her bitchy glares and stuff when Chanelle was with him; all these are completely uncalled for and unnecessary.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Ash
Emily was also having a chat in the diary room about it... if you love her, you just look past every little thing and try to make it good.

It's the same with haters!

People take things out of context regardless of what side there on and believe there own perceptions, that doesn't make anyone worse for believing so.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
It's the same with haters!

People take things out of context regardless of what side there on and believe there own perceptions, that doesn't make anyone worse for believing so.

That may be true, but at least 'haters' as you call them are giving arguments and reasons to justify what they're saying - I can't say the same for fans. I wouldn't say I'm an Emily hater. I'm simply calling things as I see them. :thumbs:

[Billy]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
To be honest Ash I took that as sarcasm, even the way she said it was sarcastic

Fair point, but I didn't think it was amusing. Whether it was sarcastic or not, she said it, and the impression she's been giving all along is that - you can see it in her body language and the way she speaks. Ziggy mentioning her bitchy glares and stuff when Chanelle was with him; all these are completely uncalled for and unnecessary.

Yeah I understand that 100% Im respect your opinion and every one of the people who dont like Emily. I just think that when people said she was lying, I udnno if you understand where Im coming from. The way I thought it was is that they were just discussing the possibility of Chanelle having a gameplan. Not necessarily saying that girls got one. To be honest everyone has the right to voice their opinion, and Emily did that in a discussion

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Ash
Emily was also having a chat in the diary room about it... if you love her, you just look past every little thing and try to make it good. There's probably no point in me even trying. But I'll say it anyway - in the DR, she was talking about how she thought it was clever that Chanelle was getting into bed with him, and that she should do the same tonight but the damage was done...

If you thought it was a joke, fine, but I wasn't laughing! And neither were a lot of people. What she means is so clear - does she think all the viewers are thick or something?!

What's your point? Emily knows Chanelle has a gameplan, it's no secret to the audience, the point of the argument is that she didn't admit it to Ziggy.

Ziggy changed the context and LIED, claiming Emily said "I think Chanelle's got a gameplan.

Ziggy lied.

Emily then tried to defend herself, and in the process, forgot to quote Ziggy in full, leading to her, technically, lying.

Ziggy lied first, and led Emily into contradicting herself.

Call it an equalizer, for Emily tricking Ziggy about nominations, but Emily sincerely believed she was defending the truth.

[Bells]

I'm not annoyed at her for lying. I don't think she lied - she just blows things out of proportion, twists the truth a little perhaps - but it's not Emily's 'lying' that annoys me, it's the way she handles situations.

[Billy]

I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

[ShadowEye]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

Not to mention the fact that he started the whole bloody thing.

[Billy]

Originally posted by ShadowEye
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

Not to mention the fact that he started the whole bl***y thing.

Exactly.

[Red Moon]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

He doesn't like to be challenged that is for sure and he did seem to over do it. Problem is the focus is on Emily and she will be seen to be the in the wrong.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

He doesn't like to be challenged that is for sure and he did seem to over do it. Problem is the focus is on Emily and she will be seen to be the in the wrong.

Yeah, but I honestly dont think she is.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Red Moon
Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
I think Ziggy was more in the wrong than Emily tonight. People can think what they want about me thinking the sun shines out of Emilys bottom, but I think Ziggy blew the whole thing way out of proportion

He doesn't like to be challenged that is for sure and he did seem to over do it. Problem is the focus is on Emily and she will be seen to be the in the wrong.

He may not like to be challenged, but I can't think of many people off the top of my head who do... but regardless of that, he handled the situation as well as he could I thought. I don't think anyone can be made to be seen in the wrong. What she said, she said - people can choose to interpret it how they want I guess, but the fact is that the majority of people disagree with the way she handles things and her general attitude.

[Bells]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
What's your point? Emily knows Chanelle has a gameplan, it's no secret to the audience, the point of the argument is that she didn't admit it to Ziggy.

Ziggy changed the context and LIED, claiming Emily said "I think Chanelle's got a gameplan.

Ziggy lied.

Emily then tried to defend herself, and in the process, forgot to quote Ziggy in full, leading to her, technically, lying.

Ziggy lied first, and led Emily into contradicting herself.

Call it an equalizer, for Emily tricking Ziggy about nominations, but Emily sincerely believed she was defending the truth.

I was referring more to previous posts. I should have quoted really, but if you had read earlier on you would’ve noticed.

Anyway, she did admit it to Ziggy in my view – she was basically stood there and mentioned it to him, and he was talking about not bringing Chanelle into it – did you miss that bit? I don’t think he lied at all; it’d be a miracle to get every single word right of the conversation or what exactly Emily said, especially at that time of night, but he put across the gist of that. If that’s lying, then I pretty much lie all the time.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by saying that Emily forgot to quote Ziggy in full. She seems to ‘lie’; well, twist the truth, quite a lot IMO so I can never be sure what she’s on about half the time. I just didn’t understand why she was playing the victim rather than standing up to the argument and truly airing her views if she believed them to be correct.

[Tanser_Man]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Tanser_Man
It's the same with haters!

People take things out of context regardless of what side there on and believe there own perceptions, that doesn't make anyone worse for believing so.

That may be true, but at least 'haters' as you call them are giving arguments and reasons to justify what they're saying - I can't say the same for fans. I wouldn't say I'm an Emily hater. I'm simply calling things as I see them. :thumbs:

In your response you’re dismissing anyone’s perceptions or reasons, in favor of Emily and acknowledging the 'facts' from the haters totally.Your side is apparent.

I believe Emily said what she said in a different context to what people are making it out to be. It was said as more of an example, she didn't say ' I believe BlaBla has a gameplan!' That judgement is very wide of the mark.

[Billy]

hey wheres Emilee when you need her eh

[Bells]

Originally posted by Tanser_Man
In your response you’re dismissing anyone’s perceptions or reasons, in favor of Emily and acknowledging the 'facts' from the haters totally.Your side is apparent.

I believe Emily said what she said in a different context to what people are making it out to be. It was said as more of an example, she didn't say ' I believe BlaBla has a gameplan!' That judgement is very wide of the mark.

Only in the last couple of minutes have I noticed people actually explaining why they think Emily is right - before that they didn't. So I was just saying that those who didn't agree with her had explained why.
I think you saying it's a different context is a fair point - I guess that just depends on different perceptions. I didn't think it was an example personally, because she gave reasons and subtely hinted as to why she thought Chanelle was doing what she did. Of course she wouldn't just blatantly say it out loud to everyone - I think she has a bit more intelligence than that, but the thing is IMO she knows it and knows how to manipulate that to deal with different situations.

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by the_chosen_one
Originally posted by Ash
Emily was also having a chat in the diary room about it... if you love her, you just look past every little thing and try to make it good. There's probably no point in me even trying. But I'll say it anyway - in the DR, she was talking about how she thought it was clever that Chanelle was getting into bed with him, and that she should do the same tonight but the damage was done...

If you thought it was a joke, fine, but I wasn't laughing! And neither were a lot of people. What she means is so clear - does she think all the viewers are thick or something?!

What's your point? Emily knows Chanelle has a gameplan, it's no secret to the audience, the point of the argument is that she didn't admit it to Ziggy.

Ziggy changed the context and LIED, claiming Emily said "I think Chanelle's got a gameplan.

Ziggy lied.

Emily then tried to defend herself, and in the process, forgot to quote Ziggy in full, leading to her, technically, lying.

Ziggy lied first, and led Emily into contradicting herself.

Call it an equalizer, for Emily tricking Ziggy about nominations, but Emily sincerely believed she was defending the truth.

precisely what I was thinking....just reading through this thread is amusing and yet....quite depressing at the same time.....people really have a demented view of what is happening on their own TV screen....

don't believe me go re-watch the footage.....Emily did not say "CHANELLE HAS A GAMEPLAN"

and to the sarcastic comment in the diary room about Chanelle sleeping with Ziggy being a good idea......SHE WAS JOKING PEOPLE........

dOc

[Bells]

I think it's really unfair to call half of this forum, or maybe even more, demented. We're all entitled to our own views and different people see things differently - I respect that. I'm not calling your view demented just because I don't agree with it; it's better to understand what the other person's saying rather than dismiss it like that.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Ash
I think it's really unfair to call half of this forum, or maybe even more, demented. We're all entitled to our own views and different people see things differently - I respect that. I'm not calling your view demented just because I don't agree with it; it's better to understand what the other person's saying rather than dismiss it like that.

Thank you Ash, Karma for you

[Juelz]

when she said she didnt say "chanelle has a gameplan"

i have sky plus and rewinded it, she said very clearly... "we all think chanelle has a gameplan with you"

[Billy]

she said
"Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan"

[Juelz]

WITH YOU

[Bells]

If she's going to say, 'we all', she should've really mentioned it to the people involved in the 'all' and they could've spoken up for themselves, surely.

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
If she's going to say, 'we all', she should've really mentioned it to the people involved in the 'all' and they could've spoken up for themselves, surely.

they know who they are.....did you not see them talking about it?

dOc

[Billy]

sorry im not defending her any more i cant be bothered. Its a losing battle...

[Bells]

Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
Originally posted by Ash
If she's going to say, 'we all', she should've really mentioned it to the people involved in the 'all' and they could've spoken up for themselves, surely.

they know who they are.....did you not see them talking about it?

dOc

No I'm on about when she was talking to Ziggy - it would've been better for them to say what they had to say rather than her do the talking for them just to cover herself up.

potentialsuperstar, don't give up - that's not the thing to do! I appreciate that you like Emily, and want to hear your reasons. Things may well change over the coming days, and we'll come back here to debate things - that's what a forum's for. You're one of the few Emily fans who's been considerate about your views rather than jumping down my throat - be proud! :hugesmile:

[Billy]

lol yeah but there isnt much point as people have already made up their minds and I respect that, so Im gonna leave it there. some like her some dont, simple as that

[Bells]

Exactly, and as the days go on I expect there'll be more and more to talk about which can change or develop views etc. - that is what the show's about!

[Billy]

Yeah oh well. theres still a day until Friday. :sad:

[Bells]

Awww :hug: - to be fair, the majority of the public has made up their minds! This happens - I've had several of my favourite housemates leave early. But you know what, it could well be Shabnam because she wants to go and everything. And you can still be known as an Emily fan! I just can't see her bringing an awful lot more, and if she stays longer it may well do her popularity more bad than good, as I think I might have mentioned before.

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by MaDdOctoR
Originally posted by Ash
If she's going to say, 'we all', she should've really mentioned it to the people involved in the 'all' and they could've spoken up for themselves, surely.

they know who they are.....did you not see them talking about it?

dOc

No I'm on about when she was talking to Ziggy - it would've been better for them to say what they had to say rather than her do the talking for them just to cover herself up.

potentialsuperstar, don't give up - that's not the thing to do! I appreciate that you like Emily, and want to hear your reasons. Things may well change over the coming days, and we'll come back here to debate things - that's what a forum's for. You're one of the few Emily fans who's been considerate about your views rather than jumping down my throat - be proud! :hugesmile:

the problem is that they would never have done it to his face......Emily has to as I think she is quite a nice person....(though people obviously don't agree) and would rather say what they were talking about.....remember she didn't bring anyone else into the argument which she could have done....(and probably should have)

but there you go....at least you can have a conversation about it rather than the usual Emily = Bitch = Rant that I've been seeing the past few days on various sites

ooh while I'm here why Is the official forum so ****? it seems every time I go there I can see a few posts then it's offline or has internal problems? they need some new servers

dOc

[Billy]

yeah the thing thats annoying me is every year my favourite has went first LMAO. I think shes got a good chance of staying (deluded) cos shabz still fave on polls and with the bookies and stuff

[Bells]

I know what you mean Doc. Which official forum are you on about, by the way?

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
Awww :hug: - to be fair, the majority of the public has made up their minds! This happens - I've had several of my favourite housemates leave early. But you know what, it could well be Shabnam because she wants to go and everything. And you can still be known as an Emily fan! I just can't see her bringing an awful lot more, and if she stays longer it may well do her popularity more bad than good, as I think I might have mentioned before.

problem is if she leaves now she'll be hated for all the wrong reasons....which would be quite a shame...

dOc

[Bells]

It's too early to determine any of that - that's the point. :wink:

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
I know what you mean Doc. Which official forum are you on about, by the way?

Channel4.com

it's a load of **** never works

dOc

[Bells]

Haha, don't go there then - this is the place to be! :elephant:

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
It's too early to determine any of that - that's the point. :wink:

bloody hell you are quick with replies.....and why is bloody edited?

dOc

[Bells]

So are you! Haha! And erm I dunno - cos it's in the swear filter, I guess.

[Billy]

so we all thinkin emilys a goner tehn

[Bells]

I've got to go guys - been nice chatting. xxx

[Billy]

byee

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by Ash
I've got to go guys - been nice chatting. xxx

see ya later nice to have a discussion rather than a war :dance2::cheer2:

have a nice night

dOc

[MaDdOctoR]

Originally posted by potentialsuperstar
so we all thinkin emilys a goner tehn

I still have that sinking feeling......:conf2:

hope I'm wrong though

I just hope if she does go....Davina will say...."and
Emily.....welcome to your very own BB house"

I can dream

dOc

[Billy]

LMAO Something tells me sehs stayin

[MaDdOctoR]

could you send that something over to me....I need a bit of cheering up...

plus I just found this http://www.emilyparrfan.co.uk/category/video/
(the Chanelle site has the "Straightener-gate" video...I've just re-watched it and still cannot see where Emily was a bitch.....oh well)

dOc

[the_chosen_one]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by the_chosen_one
What's your point? Emily knows Chanelle has a gameplan, it's no secret to the audience, the point of the argument is that she didn't admit it to Ziggy.

Ziggy changed the context and LIED, claiming Emily said "I think Chanelle's got a gameplan.

Ziggy lied.

Emily then tried to defend herself, and in the process, forgot to quote Ziggy in full, leading to her, technically, lying.

Ziggy lied first, and led Emily into contradicting herself.

Call it an equalizer, for Emily tricking Ziggy about nominations, but Emily sincerely believed she was defending the truth.

I was referring more to previous posts. I should have quoted really, but if you had read earlier on you would’ve noticed.

I read the whole thread before I posted, noticing the previous posts, but your presumption has been noted.

Anyway, she did admit it to Ziggy in my view – she was basically stood there and mentioned it to him, and he was talking about not bringing Chanelle into it – did you miss that bit? I don’t think he lied at all; it’d be a miracle to get every single word right of the conversation or what exactly Emily said, especially at that time of night, but he put across the gist of that. If that’s lying, then I pretty much lie all the time.

I’m not quite sure what you mean by saying that Emily forgot to quote Ziggy in full. She seems to ‘lie’; well, twist the truth, quite a lot IMO so I can never be sure what she’s on about half the time. I just didn’t understand why she was playing the victim rather than standing up to the argument and truly airing her views if she believed them to be correct.

You ask if I missed the bit where Ziggy spoke about not bringing Chanelle into it, and your presumption is wrong, again. I saw the exact same argument as you Ash, it was long winded, it was complicated, contexts were constantly being changed and in my opinion, there was really no need for it. It's my opinion that Ziggy likes Emily and will gladly argue with her because it's a chnace to talk to her, and Emily has even admitted she's drawn to Ziggy for the plain and simple fact that he's a man. This is why I think they had this pointless argument. Now, we come to the point of who is lying about what, but in your post that I've quoted here Ash, you even claim that no-one should be expected to get all the words right when it's so late at night and so many things are being said, leading you to base Ziggy's innocence on this, yet in the same post, condemn Emily for exactly the same mistake. To further emphasise your point, you say Emily tends to 'twist the truth' alot and you can 'never be sure what she's on about half the time'.

I'm more than happy to continue this debate with you, but if you don't know what Emily's on about, maybe you arn't the best person to debate this with.:shocked:

I understand what you mean. You find it hard to follow these silly arguments, especially when someone like Emily gets confused and begins to use too many words to explain her point, but I maintain my stance that Ziggy lied first, and led Emily into confusion, where she then forgot to quote him fully.

What she should have said is...

"I did not say....'I think Chanelle has a gameplan'....."

like Ziggy accused her of

...but she had become confused and was panicking and said

"I did not say ....."Chanelle has a gameplan"....."

....and in the truthful context of simple spoken word she did actually say.....'me and the housemates were discussing that Chanelle has a gameplan......"

...so she is now deemed a liar by her haters and critics, when it was Ziggy with the real lie.

This has become a pedantic issue, and Emily was being stubborn and confrontational, not for the first time this week, but, she is not a liar, because she did not intend to be deceitful.

[Bells]

We're going to have to agree to disagree then, because I've realised now that people will just see things differently. And, as I stated before, it's not her being condemned a 'liar' that annoys me, it's the way she handled the situation and dramatised everything (which I guess makes sense, but I still don't like it!) And I really don't think Ziggy fancies her and wants a chance to talk to her, although I could well be wrong. People have different tastes - if you find her attractive, it doesn't necessarily mean others will. I think she's fit personally, but a lot of my friends don't.

The phrase 'I don't know what she's on about' wasn't really meant literally - sorry, it's just a phrase I say quite a lot, meaning I don't agree with what she's saying. I should really keep those out of a debate! I personally don't think either one of them lied - they were both saying and expressing the gist of what they heard and interpreted it, but what bothered me was Emily just victimising herself instead of standing up for what she believed in with confidence. Arguing and playing victim is a bit too easy.

She should've really told Chanelle, because when she did speak to Chanelle, she was implying she used the term 'gameplan' loosely, when in fact I don't think that's true. She also said (to Chanelle) that she just thought Chanelle had her reasons for being in Ziggy's bed, whether it was a gameplan, whether it was to talk to him, etc. which clearly wasn't what she meant - and I lost even more respect for her when she did that.

Anyway, as I said at the beginning of this post, we'll just have to agree to disagree, because I can't see ourselves convincing each other, because it is all based on perceptions as I think I mentioned before, so it's best to leave it there.

[GiRTh]

The exact words were ' Me and the girls have been talking about Chanelle having a gameplan'. We can argue over semantics but, in my opinion, the argument was more due to the fact that Emily tricked Ziggy into revealing that he nominated her. Strange, but I'm starting to like her now and as for Ziggy, what a muppet falling for that one.

[Bells]

In the situation though, I probably would as well. I wouldn't expect someone to come out of the DR and say something of the sort, unless there was something more to it. But that comes down to me being gullible - I think for Ziggy, in the situation, he just did not see it coming. I think the argument was based on quite a few things built up.

[JustJessie]

I DONT LIKE EMILY, But keep her in so she can keep digging her grave which she has been doin these last few days! Its entertainment!!!

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Ash
In the situation though, I probably would as well. I wouldn't expect someone to come out of the DR and say something of the sort, unless there was something more to it. But that comes down to me being gullible - I think for Ziggy, in the situation, he just did not see it coming. I think the argument was based on quite a few things built up. There is no way BB would have revealed nominations in the diary room. Ziggy just started trying to justify his nomination instead of finding out exactly what had been said. He said way too much without knowing the score. Muppet.

[natjake2504]

Yeah its official emily has been kicked out of the house come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cheer:

[natjake2504]

anyone else happy about this?? What do u think will happen on friday night now

[Richie]

Even though I didn't like her I'm not happy about it. I wanted to see her get booed and see her face!

There's also like 128477432947 topics on this :tongue:

[natjake2504]

oh right sorry i didnt realise they was, cant wait for friday now

[fercho]

No, I'm not happy at all, I think she was a great caracter, I'll miss her a lot.

Nominations has been cancelled, so this is gonna get even more boring!!

[BigBrother9]

emily got remove from the big brother house for saying something racist

[bonnie43uk]

friday is an ideal time to chuck another man into the house now the eviction wont take place.
what word did she use?????.. i'm dying to know, .. and was it said directly to someones face, or what??

[Bells]

It says in the thread just above this one. The Channel 4 Statement one.

[Bells]

Originally posted by GiRTh
Originally posted by Ash
In the situation though, I probably would as well. I wouldn't expect someone to come out of the DR and say something of the sort, unless there was something more to it. But that comes down to me being gullible - I think for Ziggy, in the situation, he just did not see it coming. I think the argument was based on quite a few things built up. There is no way BB would have revealed nominations in the diary room. Ziggy just started trying to justify his nomination instead of finding out exactly what had been said. He said way too much without knowing the score. Muppet.

I see what you're saying, but in the context you wouldn't think of that straightaway - I wouldn't. And it wasn't so much that episode that put me off Emily anyway. Well, I see you were starting to like her because of the drama - has that changed?

[GlitterEyes]

I think anyone would of fell into Emilys trap and that just shows how cunning she was. She came across as really aggressive going to throw a cup at one point she was very childish.