Jussie Smollett is ARRESTED for filing a false police report

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jussie Smollett is ARRESTED for filing a false police report and disorderly conduct after 'faking racist,
homophobic attack then lying to the police about it'

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/02/21/12/10094644-6729221-image-m-5_1550751326561.jpg

Smollett was taken into custody sometime between Wednesday night and Thursday morning
The 36-year-old is being held for filing a false police report and disorderly conduct
He is due to appear in bond court at 1.30pm CT on Thursday afternoon
His lawyers released a statement on Wednesday condemning the police
They said he was entitled to the presumption of innocence 'like any citizen'
Brothers Abel and Ola Osundairo testified against him in front of a grand jury
They say he paid them to attack him in Chicago on January 29
He claimed two masked assailants beat him, tied a noose around his neck, poured bleach on him and yelled: 'This is MAGA country!'
Smollett's motive for the alleged hoax remains unclear but police sources have suggested he was trying to boost his profile
20th Century Fox is reportedly considering suspending him in light of his arrest


Late on Wednesday night, Smollett was charged for allegedly staging the January 29 attack and then lying repeatedly to police
about it after Nigerian brothers Abel and Ola Osundairo testified against him before a grand jury.

They say Smollett paid them to carry out the attack and that he also sent a threatening letter to himself a week beforehand at the Empire studio.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6729221/Jussie-Smollett-arrested-faked-racist-attack-lied-police-it.html


an updated and correctly titled thread for this shocking crime

[Nicky91]

already a thread of this topic

[Oliver_W]

Who could possibly have seen this coming.

[Toy Soldier]

Who could possibly have seen this coming.

Alf? But he's going to cause such a scene about it when his ban is up that he'll probably end up permanently banned :umm2:. Now there's a prediction for you :joker:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

already a thread of this topic

that thread is incorrect and not up to date, this supersedes it

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who could possibly have seen this coming.

im shook

[Niamh.]

What an idiot

[Crimson Dynamo]

What an idiot

i mean ..why?

it does not make sense ?

[Toy Soldier]

On a serious note; the damage he's done to both his own career, AND to the plight of genuine victims of racist / homophobic attacks, is utterly staggering. Genuinely criminal. People obviously ARE attacked like this and these crimes are already under-reported because of not being believed. This fellow's actions are going to make that so much worse now. I can almost hear the crows of "Pfffft probably LIES, remember Smollett" already, the next time a news story about a hate crime comes up.

[Eddie.]

On a serious note; the damage he's done to both his own career, AND to the plight of genuine victims of racist / homophobic attacks, is utterly staggering. Genuinely criminal. People obviously ARE attacked like this and these crimes are already under-reported because of not being believed. This follow's actions are going to make that so much worse now. I can almost hear the crows of "Pfffft probably LIES, remember Smollett" already, the next time a news story about a hate crime comes up.

This. :clap1:

[arista]

They had to arrest him


He wasted all their fecking time

[Toy Soldier]

i mean ..why?

it does not make sense ?

Surely either because he thought it would be good for his career, or it could be something more clinical akin to Factitious Disorder (aka Munchausen's Syndrome), or in other words, he felt he was chronically lacking in positive attention and created a victim narrative to counter that (as assault victims are usually offered a lot of love and support).

If it's the latter it's sad, but still incredibly damaging.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Surely either because he thought it would be good for his career, or it could be something more clinical akin to Factitious Disorder (aka Munchausen's Syndrome), or in other words, he felt he was chronically lacking in positive attention and created a victim narrative to counter that (as assault victims are usually offered a lot of love and support).

If it's the latter it's sad, but still incredibly damaging.

or he was so mad at Trump supporters he wanted to do this to tarnish their name?

[bots]

all the Hollywood stars that jumped to his tune are going to be feeling a bit foolish

[Strictly Jake]

But why?

[arista]

But why?



Getting Publicity

[bots]

Apparently its not the first time he has been in a bit of bother so he may end up doing some time

[Crimson Dynamo]

all the Hollywood stars that jumped to his tune are going to be feeling a bit foolish

like say Nancy Pelosi

According to Business Insider, Pelosi first tweeted in support of Smollett on January 29, 2019, the day the Empire actor spoke to Chicago Police. "The racist, homophobic attack on @JussieSmollett is an affront to our humanity," she wrote. "No one should be attacked for who they are or whom they love. I pray that Jussie has a speedy recovery & that justice is served. May we all commit to ending this hate once & for all."

:smug:

[bots]

like say Nancy Pelosi

According to Business Insider, Pelosi first tweeted in support of Smollett on January 29, 2019, the day the Empire actor spoke to Chicago Police. "The racist, homophobic attack on @JussieSmollett is an affront to our humanity," she wrote. "No one should be attacked for who they are or whom they love. I pray that Jussie has a speedy recovery & that justice is served. May we all commit to ending this hate once & for all."

:smug:

trump also said it was a disgusting attack :smug:

[Vicky.]

On a serious note; the damage he's done to both his own career, AND to the plight of genuine victims of racist / homophobic attacks, is utterly staggering. Genuinely criminal. People obviously ARE attacked like this and these crimes are already under-reported because of not being believed. This fellow's actions are going to make that so much worse now. I can almost hear the crows of "Pfffft probably LIES, remember Smollett" already, the next time a news story about a hate crime comes up.

Well yeah..this is so baffling. I mean, he didn't need the publicity or anything so I see no reason AT ALL for this :umm2:

[Greg!]

Had a feeling idk why

[Crimson Dynamo]

Donald Trump Junior is having a field day

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/766652495858896897/LjrJJB9a_bigger.jpg

Hey Hollywood and media types, I’ve noticed a lot of you deleted your #JusticeForJussie tweets... what’s the matter, don’t you want justice for him anymore??? #frauds

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1097484141678022656

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzlBElIU0AEJC4Z?format=jpg&name=small

[armand.kay]

This is all such a mess, like a new story comes out everyday and by the end of the day the Chicago PD release a statement saying it's either not true or that it's been grossly exaggerated. I'm just gonna sit this one out until things are clearer... all I know rn is that the CPD is messy, the media is messy and Jussie is the biggest mess of them all.

[bots]

This is all such a mess, like a new story comes out everyday and by the end of the day the Chicago PD release a statement saying it's either not true or that it's been grossly exaggerated. I'm just gonna sit this one out until things are clearer... all I know rn is that the CPD is messy, the media is messy and Jussie is the biggest mess of them all.

he has been charged

[armand.kay]

he has been charged

i know??

[Niamh.]

i mean ..why?

it does not make sense ?

It just makes it more difficult for actual victims of such crimes and made himself look foolish

[Niamh.]

all the Hollywood stars that jumped to his tune are going to be feeling a bit foolish

But they shouldn't feel foolish for being empathetic to a supposed victim, he should feel foolish though

[Amy Jade]

But they shouldn't feel foolish for being empathetic to a supposed victim, he should feel foolish though

Totally agree. Don't understand how people are having a pop at people who offered him support.

Nobody who had sympathy for him should feel foolish.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Totally agree. Don't understand how people are having a pop at people who offered him support.

Nobody who had sympathy for him should feel foolish.

I think the kind of thing is this, that it suited a certain narrative


omg he is a gay black man

omg his attackers were racist trump fans



IT MUST BE TRUE

had it been a straight white man claiming he had been attacked by 2 black democrats i kind of think there would have been a lot less sympathy

certainly on here, for sure

would anyone disagree?

[Cherie]

Cant be long before the racist police charge is levied :hehe:

[SherzyK]

I think the kind of thing is this, that it suited a certain narrative


omg he is a gay black man

omg his attackers were racist trump fans



IT MUST BE TRUE

had it been a straight white man claiming he had been attacked by 2 black democrats i kind of think there would have been a lot less sympathy

certainly on here, for sure

would anyone disagree?

Then again if that was the case then you would be so quick to believe it happened and wouldn’t even question why it happened.

But because it was a gay black man in this case, you were skeptic?

I’m not saying what Jussie did was right but you didn’t even feel a shred of sympathy. What if it was a white man getting attacked? You wouldn’t challenge it then

[Crimson Dynamo]

Then again if that was the case then you would be so quick to believe it happened and wouldn’t even question why it happened.

But because it was a gay black man in this case, you were skeptic?

I’m not saying what Jussie did was right but you didn’t even feel a shred of sympathy. What if it was a white man getting attacked? You wouldn’t challenge it then

if you read back I questioned the wording of the thread as it portrayed the allegation as factual and not whether it happened, initially

[Twosugars]

Then again if that was the case then you would be so quick to believe it happened and wouldn’t even question why it happened.

But because it was a gay black man in this case, you were skeptic?

I’m not saying what Jussie did was right but you didn’t even feel a shred of sympathy. What if it was a white man getting attacked? You wouldn’t challenge it then

agree with that assessment

[SherzyK]

if you read back I questioned the wording of the thread as it portrayed the allegation as factual and not whether it happened, initially

It was still a story that was in development and I doubt the thread name would have a made an iota of a difference.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It was still a story that was in development and I doubt the thread name would have a made an iota of a difference.

Your question is not directed at me is what I am saying

[SherzyK]

Your question is not directed at me is what I am saying

I mean it was a reply to your comment.

[Tom4784]

all the Hollywood stars that jumped to his tune are going to be feeling a bit foolish

Empathy is never foolish, there isn't enough of it in today's world.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dz77zPLWoAUjmOt.jpg

[Northern Monkey]

What a mess.This will follow him for the rest of his career.
It is despicable.Like false rape allegations.It plays a part in real crimes not being believed.

He must’ve thought he was on to a winner.That he would be undoubtedly believed due to his minority status.Only he didn’t pull it off.

Why he did it though,That is a weird mystery.

[Oliver_W]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2525d6b13cf9ff21065c811bc5824746/tenor.gif?itemid=5659276

[Tom4784]

I think the kind of thing is this, that it suited a certain narrative


omg he is a gay black man

omg his attackers were racist trump fans



IT MUST BE TRUE

had it been a straight white man claiming he had been attacked by 2 black democrats i kind of think there would have been a lot less sympathy

certainly on here, for sure

would anyone disagree?

Can you really say that though when people who didn't believe him in the last thread were sceptical for no solid reason other than they didn't like how the story framed a trump supporter as the attacker? They doubted him PURELY because of their agenda while others chose to believe him because that's how the facts lined up in that moment. They had no evidence of wrongdoing while there was footage of the staged attack which gave credence to Smollet's story. The narrative only really changed a few weeks later and the doubters had no real inkling that it would. It was just a lucky guess really.

Trying to frame empathy as pushing an agenda is quite something when you consider that the only real reason that doubt existed was because of a need to push an agenda in the first place.

[Tom4784]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2525d6b13cf9ff21065c811bc5824746/tenor.gif?itemid=5659276

Can you really gloat like that when you were simply lucky that your biases were correct in this instance?

[Tom4784]

As for the story itself, it's gross. Hopefully he gets dropped and recast in Empire and his career is finished. False claims will only give bigots validation in doubting victims and make it harder for genuine victims to come forward.

[Oliver_W]

Can you really gloat like that when you were simply lucky that your biases were correct in this instance?

"My biases" ... biases against unbelievable stories?

[LukeB]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/2525d6b13cf9ff21065c811bc5824746/tenor.gif?itemid=5659276

How childish..yikes

[SherzyK]

Can you really say that though when people who didn't believe him in the last thread were sceptical for no solid reason other than they didn't like how the story framed a trump supporter as the attacker? They doubted him PURELY because of their agenda while others chose to believe him because that's how the facts lined up in that moment. They had no evidence of wrongdoing while there was footage of the staged attack which gave credence to Smollet's story. The narrative only really changed a few weeks later and the doubters had no real inkling that it would. It was just a lucky guess really.

Trying to frame empathy as pushing an agenda is quite something when you consider that the only real reason that doubt existed was because of a need to push an agenda in the first place.

:clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can you really say that though when people who didn't believe him in the last thread were sceptical for no solid reason other than they didn't like how the story framed a trump supporter as the attacker? They doubted him PURELY because of their agenda while others chose to believe him because that's how the facts lined up in that moment. They had no evidence of wrongdoing while there was footage of the staged attack which gave credence to Smollet's story. The narrative only really changed a few weeks later and the doubters had no real inkling that it would. It was just a lucky guess really.

Trying to frame empathy as pushing an agenda is quite something when you consider that the only real reason that doubt existed was because of a need to push an agenda in the first place.

"were sceptical for no solid reason other than they didn't like how the story framed a trump supporter"

"others chose to believe him because that's how the facts lined up in that moment"



"They doubted him PURELY because of their agenda"


Sorry but i cant answer you if you constantly claim to know exactly what everyone in the thread was doing and why - you dont

[SherzyK]

As much as I disagree with what he did, the fact that people almost rejoice in the fact he’s getting done for it after showing no sympathy or remorse baffles me.

[bots]

People choose to believe reported events or be sceptical about them for loads of different reasons. The important lesson from this is to keep an open mind what happened until the facts are verified.

[AnnieK]

Gloating is never a good look.

This story turned out to be just that a story, but let's face it, it just as easily could have been true. Racial and homophobic attacks are still far too commonplace and many will go unreported, probably more so now after this shower.

Having empathy for someone who said they had been attacked is now to be ridiculed? All this "I told you so" ****e, is just that....****e.

I hope Jussie gets dealt with quickly and seriously for false reporting a serious crime. Its low, whatevr his justification.

[Crimson Dynamo]

People choose to believe reported events or be sceptical about them for loads of different reasons. The important lesson from this is to keep an open mind what happened until the facts are verified.

and word threads correctly in the first place to AVOID the mess we had in the original thread

[Tom4784]

"My biases" ... biases against unbelievable stories?

It wasn't an unbelievable story to the police investigating it for weeks before the new facts came to light. If you think that you, a british person who has no connection to the Chicago police and thus no real knowledge of the inner workings of the case beyond what was being reported somehow had some sort of knowledge that trumped all that... Well, I don't need to state how ridiculous that would be, do I?

The only reason to doubt the story before the narrative changed after the 'attackers' were apprehended was because you didn't want to believe it, thus your biases swayed your thoughts on the matter.

[Tom4784]

"were sceptical for no solid reason other than they didn't like how the story framed a trump supporter"

"others chose to believe him because that's how the facts lined up in that moment"



"They doubted him PURELY because of their agenda"


Sorry but i cant answer you if you constantly claim to know exactly what everyone in the thread was doing and why - you dont

Speak the truth for once, you're not answering because you don't have an answer and you don't want to admit I'm right and so you're trying to wriggle out of it with a pathetic attempt to cast doubt on what I'm saying without a cohesive argument. Acting dense doesn't make my point any less valid, LT.

Alf said early on in the thread that he doubted the story because he didn't want to believe the MAGA aspect. That's there in the thread.

Also, reading comprehension is your friend, LT. It's plain to see what motivated the doubt when everything else pointed to the contrary. Did you not learn about reading between the lines in school?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Speak the truth for once, you're not answering because you don't have an answer and you don't want to admit I'm right and so you're trying to wriggle out of it with a pathetic attempt to cast doubt on what I'm saying without a cohesive argument. Acting dense doesn't make my point any less valid, LT.

Alf said early on in the thread that he doubted the story because he didn't want to believe the MAGA aspect. That's there in the thread.

Also, reading comprehension is your friend, LT. It's plain to see what motivated the doubt when everything else pointed to the contrary. Did you not learn about reading between the lines in school?

you are still pretending to know what you do not, and you do this all the time

if you are referring to Alf then say so

and dont be cheeky (last paragraph)

[Oliver_W]

The only reason to doubt the story before the narrative changed after the 'attackers' were apprehended was because you didn't want to believe it, thus your biases swayed your thoughts on the matter.

Wow Dezzy the mindreader ... Not.

Like I said multiple times, it was the details that made it unbelievable:
- him being recognised in passing when wrapped up for warmth on a dark night
- that some would-be lynchers were roaming the streets when the temperature was like -20' with a handy noose
- swanky Chicago neighborhoods are one of the farthest things from "MAGA country"
- that his phone he was speaking on was not stolen and his Sub wasn't ruined

Like I've also repeated, if his story began and ended with him being punched/pushed and called the n-word, no-one would doubt it.

[Tom4784]

you are still pretending to know what you do not, and you do this all the time

if you are referring to Alf then say so

and dont be cheeky (last paragraph)

And you're pretending to be dense to try to discredit what I'm saying because you don't have an actual argument to do so. You've responded twice on this issue now and you've yet to actually come up with a solid counterpoint, you're just trying to brush what I'm saying under the table with bull****.

It's blatant and I will point it out. Either serve up a counter argument or admit that you can't.

[Tom4784]

Wow Dezzy the mindreader ... Not.

Like I said multiple times, it was the details that made it unbelievable:
- him being recognised in passing when wrapped up for warmth on a dark night
- that some would-be lynchers were roaming the streets when the temperature was like -20' with a handy noose
- swanky Chicago neighborhoods are one of the farthest things from "MAGA country"
- that his phone he was speaking on was not stolen and his Sub wasn't ruined

Like I've also repeated, if his story began and ended with him being punched/pushed and called the n-word, no-one would doubt it.

Oh wow, the early 90's 'not' burn, how will I ever recover from such a scalping? Doing the LT defense won't help you any more then it does for him.

Nothing you have said has really damaged my argument. The police believed and investigated Smollet's narrative until after they apprehended the 'attackers.' A few points you've just thought of in retrospect doesn't make it so that you had knowledge that the police did not.

Logic dictates that there was no real reason to doubt Smollet's version of events until the 'attackers' were arrested, the police certainly didn't and they had more knowledge than you or I. You doubted the story because you didn't want to believe it, simple as. To gloat over this is grim, especially considering that it's out of pure luck that you happened to be right.

[Matthew.]

Very disappointed in him, I believed him and stood by him as well. But like it has already been pointed out, nobody should feel silly or the need to apologise because they believed him, and they were the better person for believing him 100%.

I said it in the other thread but I’ll say it in here too, I would always rather believe something like this and have it turn out to be false, than dismiss it and have it turn out to be true.

[Oliver_W]

A few points you've just thought of in retrospect doesn't make it so that you had knowledge that the police did not.


I didn't think of anything in retrospect, I've been saying all of that since the start, it's why I never believed the story as presented.

[Oliver_W]

Possible motive uncovered:

Jussie Smollett was dissatisfied with his salary on Empire, prompting him to pay $3,500 to stage the alleged attack on him, according to police. (https://ew.com/tv/2019/02/21/jussie-smollett-police-press-conference/)

On Thursday morning, hours after Smollett turned himself in on charges on filing a false police report, Chicago PD had a press conference to lay out their case. Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson opened up the proceedings with strong words, saying Smollett “took advantage of the pain and anger of racism to promote this career.” He further shared that the Empire star was behind the threatening letter that he had previously received and when that didn’t get the reaction he wanted, Smollett paid $3,500 to Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo, who he knew through the hit Fox series. Detective Edward Wodnicki then went through the entire timeline, going inside the entire investigation. Smollett will be going in front of a judge at 2:30 p.m. ET.

[Tom4784]

Gross, his current gig would have led to others, he would have likely had a good career in TV long after Empire ends had it not been for this. I hope the judge throws the book at him and highlights in their address the damage this crime can cause for victims of genuine hate crimes.

[Oliver_W]

He was in the latest Alien film as well, so he could have got into Hollywood...

[bots]

it will be interesting if he tries to contest it or pleads guilty

[Oliver_W]

it will be interesting if he tries to contest it or pleads guilty

Can you contest something if you turn yourself in?

[bots]

Can you contest something if you turn yourself in?

he only turned himself in to be arrested. There will still be a trial :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

And you're pretending to be dense to try to discredit what I'm saying because you don't have an actual argument to do so. You've responded twice on this issue now and you've yet to actually come up with a solid counterpoint, you're just trying to brush what I'm saying under the table with bull****.

It's blatant and I will point it out. Either serve up a counter argument or admit that you can't.

Er i pointed out you are pretending to know what everyone thinks in the thread

Unless you stop that no one can reply to you

[arista]

Live in Chicago Early Morning
on CNN HD
Police have said it was a Publicity Stunt.

The 2 Nigerian men originally arrested
are now witnesses.

[arista]

Very disappointed in him, I believed him and stood by him as well. But like it has already been pointed out, nobody should feel silly or the need to apologise because they believed him, and they were the better person for believing him 100%.

I said it in the other thread but I’ll say it in here too, I would always rather believe something like this and have it turn out to be false, than dismiss it and have it turn out to be true.


Our poster Alf spotted
this was a fake report by him.

[arista]

Gross, his current gig would have led to others, he would have likely had a good career in TV long after Empire ends had it not been for this. I hope the judge throws the book at him and highlights in their address the damage this crime can cause for victims of genuine hate crimes.


Yes the Judge must set a good example

[arista]

Chicago Police have now said he was upset
about his salary ?

Greedy Fecker


[Police: Actor 'took advantage of the pain and anger of racism' for career]




[Empire actor Jussie Smollett staged racist attack because he was unhappy with salary, police say
The 36-year-old, who came out as gay in 2015, is accused of making a false report to officers about an apparent assault.

Thursday 21 February 2019 16:50, UK]

https://news.sky.com/story/jussie-smollett-staged-attack-over-salary-dissatisfaction-police-11643886

[hijaxers]

Well yeah..this is so baffling. I mean, he didn't need the publicity or anything so I see no reason AT ALL for this :umm2:

Yeah just like Roxanne Pallett - no working some folk out eh !

[Matthew.]

Our poster Alf spotted
this was a fake report by him.

Yes thanks Arista for bringing this new piece of information to my attention but the way I see it, this shouldn’t about “[Poster’s name] was correct so he won!” because imo that’s quite a childish mindset to have?

[Crimson Dynamo]

there are no winners in this sordid story

[AnnieK]

there are no winners in this sordid story

I certainly agree with this

[arista]

If he is found Guilty he will get 3 years

Ch4HD news USA

[Crimson Dynamo]

3 years???


he should get life as he will cause thousands to fail to report and thousands to be found not guilty by juries

:bored:

[bots]

CHICAGO (AP) — “Empire” actor Jussie Smollett gave detailed instructions to two brothers who helped him stage a racist, anti-gay attack on himself, including giving them specific slurs to yell, telling them to shout “MAGA country” and pointing out a surveillance camera that he thought would record the beating, a prosecutor said Thursday.

Police said Smollett planned the hoax because he was unhappy with his salary and wanted to promote his career. Before the attack, he also sent a letter that threatened him to the Chicago studio where “Empire” is shot, police said.

[Tom4784]

Er i pointed out you are pretending to know what everyone thinks in the thread

Unless you stop that no one can reply to you

Again, it's called reading comprehension and reading between the lines, I don't need to read your mind to read your intent, you're pretty transparent. If you disagree with my opinion then make a ****ing effort and come up with a counterargument, you're just trying to shut down my opinion with your bull**** and it will not work.

Continuing to act dense won't get you anywhere, argue against what I'm saying or admit you can't. Confusing reading between the lines for me 'mindreading' is just embarassing tbh.

[LaLaLand]

This is absolutely unbelievable. "WTF"!?

[Glenn.]

I think he’s innocent

[arista]

I think he’s innocent


You must be a Democrat Politician , then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think he’s innocent

king of hope

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, it's called reading comprehension and reading between the lines, I don't need to read your mind to read your intent, you're pretty transparent. If you disagree with my opinion then make a ****ing effort and come up with a counterargument, you're just trying to shut down my opinion with your bull**** and it will not work.

Continuing to act dense won't get you anywhere, argue against what I'm saying or admit you can't. Confusing reading between the lines for me 'mindreading' is just embarassing tbh.

if you have to resort to insults to get whatever point you are trying to make yesterday across then you have failed

you have insulted me 4 times in your nasty personal post above

please stick to the rules that you are supposed to apply

[Toy Soldier]

I reckon it's a government conspiracy and Trump security staff have paid the two Nigerian men to pretend that Smollett paid them to attack him.

[Oliver_W]

Leaked script from the next Empire episode:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/sfp9rlto964ew-gif.673152/

[Cherie]

I don't understand how he thought this would get him a payrise :shrug:

What industry works like that :suspect:

[Oliver_W]

I don't understand how he thought this would get him a payrise :shrug:

What industry works like that :suspect:

When he used his own phone instead of a disposable pay as you go, bought the props right before the event, and paid his friends with a cheque, I'm gonna say it was good ole stupidity.

[bots]

I don't understand how he thought this would get him a payrise :shrug:

What industry works like that :suspect:

it's going to get him a pay cut in reality :laugh:

[Livia]

Well, that's his career over after a stupid, ill-considered action. And what a slap in the face to people suffering real racism.

[Niamh.]

3 years???


he should get life as he will cause thousands to fail to report and thousands to be found not guilty by juries

:bored:

I think life is a bit extreme tbf :laugh:

[Cherie]

it's going to get him a pay cut in reality :laugh:

Isn't it just :laugh:

Heres 100k a year payrise because you have been the victim of a homophobic and racist attack

and if you are going to claim that at least get some white people to fake attack you

[Mokka]

I reckon it's a government conspiracy and Trump security staff have paid the two Nigerian men to pretend that Smollett paid them to attack him.

Would it be the first time police and government made a high profile racist act go away :think:

[Tom4784]

if you have to resort to insults to get whatever point you are trying to make yesterday across then you have failed

you have insulted me 4 times in your nasty personal post above

please stick to the rules that you are supposed to apply

Oh stop with the pearl clutching, it doesn't suit you.

You've still yet to provide a counterargument so I'm going to declare that you've lost this argument. All you can do is try to deny people their opinion, you can't argue against it.

[arista]

I reckon it's a government conspiracy and Trump security staff have paid the two Nigerian men to pretend that Smollett paid them to attack him.


Wrong
the 2 brothers are his mates
one works as a extra on "Empire"
the other brother supply's Drugs to him


He (Jussie) even used the Trump bit on a Tour he did
its in fashion to attack Trump


Ref: CNN HD USA

[Niamh.]

Wrong
the 2 brothers are his mates
one works as a extra on "Empire"
the other brother supply's Drugs to him


He even used the Trump bit on a Tour he did
its in fashion to attack Trump


Ref: CNN HD USA

How low of Trump to turn his friends against him :oh:

[arista]

I don't understand how he thought this would get him a payrise :shrug:

What industry works like that :suspect:



Meaning he was damaged
so much by the attack that he set up.

[Oliver_W]

How low of Trump to turn his friends against him :oh:

Orange man bad!!!!!111

[Niamh.]

Orange man bad!!!!!111

That's racist :oh:

[Oliver_W]

That's racist :oh:

He made me say it so he'd get a pay rise.

[Glenn.]

king of hope

Innocent until proven guilty

[bots]

"Actor Jussie Smollett suspended from US TV series Empire after charges of faking assault, producers say"

----

The pay rise angle worked really well :laugh:

[arista]

Innocent until proven guilty


No longer doing his Series


The Judge
will Shut You UP
Glenn

[Glenn.]

"Actor Jussie Smollett suspended from US TV series Empire after charges of faking assault, producers say"

----

The pay rise angle worked really well :laugh:

Such an overreaction.

[Oliver_W]

Such an overreaction.

Was it, though? Not only did he commit a crime, he would have happily hung out whatever white guys just happened to be on the street at the time to dry for the fake crime, all in the name of a pay rise. That's not the kind of person anyone would want working for them.

[AnnieK]

Was it, though? Not only did he commit a crime, he would have happily hung out whatever white guys just happened to be on the street at the time to dry for the fake crime, all in the name of a pay rise. That's not the kind of person anyone would want working for them.

Agree with this, had a couple of guys been in the wrong place at the wrong time its very possible they could have been charged with not only a crime they didn't commit but a crime that actually didn't happen.

[Cherie]

Such an overreaction.

who do you know that would keep their job in a situation like this, fakes a crime, wastes police and hospital time and could have incriminated innocents, I doubt he would have been kept on at poundland never mind a tv show, what advertisers do you think would want to be associated with him?

[Glenn.]

Was it, though? Not only did he commit a crime, he would have happily hung out whatever white guys just happened to be on the street at the time to dry for the fake crime, all in the name of a pay rise. That's not the kind of person anyone would want working for them.

who do you know that would keep their job in a situation like this, fakes a crime, wastes police and hospital time and could have incriminated innocents, I doubt he would have been kept on at poundland never mind a tv show, what advertisers do you think would want to be associated with him?

Innocent until proven guilty

[Cherie]

Innocent until proven guilty

Didn’t he confess :worry:

[Glenn.]

It’s a cover up

[Toy Soldier]

Despicable man. His career is finished.:suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:suspect:

not the smollett effect now making members turn on each other?

[Oliver_W]

Innocent until proven guilty

There's been plenty of proof, what more do you want?

Or do you mean "found guilty by a jury" ?

[Glenn.]

There's been plenty of proof, what more do you want?

Or do you mean "found guilty by a jury" ?

To see it with my own eyes

[arista]

To see it with my own eyes



The Judge will sort out
you joker views

[Elliot]

im screaming he hasn't been convicted yet everyone needs to get a grip

[Glenn.]

All the gay haters ready to jump on him without conviction :bored:

[Mokka]

To see it with my own eyes

Lol... isn't this what Alf said.

[Glenn.]

Lol... isn't this what Alf said.

Yeh lol I’m being deliberately facetious. Aka trolling :laugh:

[arista]

All the gay haters ready to jump on him without conviction :bored:


Being Gay
has Feck all to do with this Corruption


['faking racist,
homophobic attack then lying to the police about it']

[Mokka]

Yeh lol I’m being deliberately facetious. Aka trolling :laugh:

I'm appreciating your approach lol

[Headie]

1099403674244272129

Mess if he goes back to being innocent again :laugh:

[Glenn.]

1099403674244272129

Mess if he goes back to being innocent again :laugh:

It’s what she deserves

[Oliver_W]

Well he's not exactly gonna write "to fake my hatecrime" on his cheque is he.

[Toy Soldier]

Well well well. How the turntables.

[montblanc]

i'm so disappointed in him :oh:

[montblanc]

1099403674244272129

Mess if he goes back to being innocent again :laugh:

oop or maybe not

[montblanc]

this whole situation makes my head hurt :skull:

[Liam-]

I’d scream if he was actually innocent after the all of the public dragging a he’s received

[Toy Soldier]

I’d scream if he was actually innocent after the all of the public dragging a he’s receivedI mean it seems unlikely, its just that the FBI are pointing out that some of the information released by police isn't quite accurate when it comes to the specifics.

However, in a case that's been so high profile in the media, I wonder if that alone could end up resulting in a mistrial...

[Vicky.]

Well he's not exactly gonna write "to fake my hatecrime" on his cheque is he.

:laugh: Indeed.

This story is ****ing bizarre. I didn't comment on the original because it seemed a bit weird and random then, I did believe it I think though as my immediate reaction is to support 'victims'. But..how its turned out so far, well. Its just really strange as there is no reason to do it? I mean hes not exactly struggling for work, I could understand it a bit more if he was a washed up ex celeb but hes not..so he didn't need the publicity.

[reece(:]

New developments

1099766384790327297

Jussie Smollett has hard evidence to support his claim the Chicago Police Superintendent got it wrong when he told the media the actor paid $3,500 to Abel and Ola Osundairo to stage an attack.

TMZ has obtained documents that on the surface back his claim the $3,500 check he wrote to Abel was for training. The check was written to Abel on January 23, 2019, six days before the "attack." The memo line reads, "5 week Nutrition/Workout program Don't Go."

Sources connected to Jussie tell us, the reference to "Don't Go" is a song for which Jussie was going to shoot a music video ... featuring himself shirtless. The sources say Jussie had gained weight -- he was 192 lbs and needed to lose 20 pounds for the shoot, and that's why he hired Abel ... whom he says he calls "Bon."

There are various texts starting from January 20 between Jussie and Bon. On January 28 -- the day before the "attack" -- Bon wrote, "I know you're traveling today, make sure you get at least 45 mins of cardio."

Another text on January 20 outlines a menu for the day, including chicken thigh, StarKist Tuna, Eggs and Smucker's peanut butter. And, a text on January 25 reads, "This is the meal plan and the breakdown of macronutrients. Also includes projected fat loss."

You also see a text showing a calendar where February 23 is marked "Don't Go." The sources say that's the date of the music video shoot.

There's another screenshot from Sept. 27, 2018, presumably showing Jussie has paid Ola in the past. It's a Venmo payment of $100 to Bola (Abimbola aka Abel) for "Training."

Sources connected to Jussie say the $3,500 breakdown is as follows -- $600 a week for the workout plan for 5 weeks, and $100 a week for the nutrition plan for 5 weeks.

As we reported, Ola and Abel also told the grand jury the payment was for training.

http://m.tmz.com/#!article/2019/02/24/jussie-smollett-training-texts-payment-check-abel-attack/

[Liam-]

Mess :skull:

[Marsh.]

Not cheques in 2019.

[Oliver_W]

It doesn't prove the attack wasn't staged, as the purchase of the items used in the occurrence are still traceable to the brothers, who are still confirmed to be the "persons of interest"

[arista]

Sure Reece
take the Cash Error out of it,
Still has the Attack as staged

If you are Black and a Trump Supporter
attacks you
its a Big Story in USA.

But those brothers are not Pro Trump
they are punks living the High Life
in Africa and USA.

[bots]

it will all come out in court one way or another .... lets wait and see :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

they are punks living the High Life -
in Africa and USA.

Did they attack Mr Smollett
Because he's black or cos he's gay?
It'll be in the courts sure soon enough;
We'll find out either way...
But if we've learned ONE thing from this thread,
Its that we shouldn't assume, today.

-------


Good afternoon good evening and goodnight.

[arista]

Did they attack Mr Smollett
Because he's black or cos he's gay?
It'll be in the courts sure soon enough;
We'll find out either way...
But if we've learned ONE thing from this thread,
Its that we shouldn't assume, today.

-------


Good afternoon good evening and goodnight.


There his mates
so they did what he asked them to do
One works as a extra on the Show
he was on.
The Other Punk Brother supply's drugs (legal and illegal)
to him

[Oliver_W]

I'd not heard anything in a while about this case, so I turned to google.

The brothers regret their involvement in the hoax, as it could lead to people doubting real cases.

The brothers involved in Jussie Smollett case express 'tremendous regret,' lawyer says
(https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/01/us/jussie-smollett-case-brothers-statement/index.html)
(CNN)The brothers who allegedly took part in what police say was a staged attack on actor Jussie Smollett are expressing "tremendous regret" for their involvement.

"They understand how it has impacted people across the nation, particularly minority communities and especially those who have been victims of hate crimes themselves," said Gloria Schmidt, an attorney for the brothers Olabinjo and Abimbola Osundairo.

[Northern Monkey]

So what have learned from this?





Don’t trust TMZ :laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

So what have learned from this?


Next time drop the sandwich?

[Toy Soldier]

What real cases?



The fact that people have to make up stories tells you that these cases are practically none existant.



Don't believe the hype.Hate crimes are "practically non-existent"?

FFS Alf take your win as it is on this one, don't push it :joker:

[Oliver_W]

What real cases?

The fact that people have to make up stories tells you that these cases are practically none existant.

Don't believe the hype.

Don't be daft, hate crimes obviously do happen. Smollett wasn't trying to raise awareness of hate crimes, he was trying to shine a spotlight on himself, it was all about him.
The existence or otherwise of hate crimes in general has nothing to do with this.

[Oliver_W]

I heard that he's friends with some senator, who at the time was trying to pass some lynching law. What a coincidence.

Why you'd need some special law on lynching is bizarre, it's already against the law and the last report on any lynching in USA was about 40 years ago.

You have to wonder how many stories are made up to pass laws that give people in power, more power over citizens.

Beating someone up is a crime, but if it's because they're black and/or gay it becomes a hate crime. I guess the lynching law would be similar to that :shrug:

[Oliver_W]

What if they're straight and White? can't that go in a hate crime category?

Sure, if that was the reason they were attacked.

I know some cute Tumblr memes say that racism comes from a place of "power+privilege" so white people can't be victims of racism, but that's BS

[bots]

US actor Jussie Smollett has been charged by a grand jury in Chicago on 16 counts, accused of falsely claiming to police that he had been the victim of a hate crime.

Prosecutors had previously charged him with one count of filing a false report.

The 36-year-old African-American actor told police he had been the victim of a homophobic and racist assault.

Police say he staged the attack in an attempt to further his acting career.

Last month he was suspended from the Empire TV show he starred in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47504720

:skull:

[Glenn.]

Innocent until proven guilty

[bots]

The charges against him have now been dropped :laugh::laugh:

[arista]

Guilty
but he got off

[Oliver_W]

So he got his mates to (pretend to/) beat him up and lied to the police, but all charges were dropped? 'Kay.

I wonder if he's still being investigated for the separate crime of sending hate letters to himself.

[Oliver_W]

Oh hang on, it's not because they think he's innocent or because any other evidence came to light:
We're told the State's Attorney, Kim Foxx, told Chicago police she was dropping the case because Jussie would have only gotten community service if convicted and she said he has already performed community service so there is no point in prosecuting him. (https://www.tmz.com/2019/03/26/jussie-smollettt-plea-bargain-charges-dropped-dismissed/)

[Crimson Dynamo]

All charges dropped

[Toy Soldier]

Oh hang on, it's not because they think he's innocent or because any other evidence came to light:

Err no TiBB logic states that if someone has the charges dropped then it is 100% canon fact that they are definitely 100% innocent of the accused crime. That's how it works and if you disagree then you HATE LAW!! :fist: Disgusting anarchist.

[Oliver_W]

Err no TiBB logic states that if someone has the charges dropped then it is 100% canon fact that they are definitely 100% innocent of the accused crime. That's how it works and if you disagree then you HATE LAW!! :fist: Disgusting anarchist.

But they weren't dropped due to possible innocence - they were dropped because he'd already carried out the punishment he'd receive. They're also keeping his $10k bond.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Innocent until proven guilty

take a bow

you win the thread

:hee:

[Glenn.]

Never lost faith

[Oliver_W]

They're basically saying (https://twitter.com/juliebosman/status/1110590957664288768)he's guilty and stand by the charges, but won't pursue them as they're prioritising violent crime and Smollett isn't a danger, so they're dropping it in exchange for community service and keeping the $10k bond.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4616&stc=1&d=1553622244
spoilered screenshot for size

[Glenn.]

Let’s hope he can return to work soon

[Toy Soldier]

But they weren't dropped due to possible innocence - they were dropped because he'd already carried out the punishment he'd receive. They're also keeping his $10k bond.False the court said NOT GUILTY so why don't you want to accept the ruling of a court of law?

[Toy Soldier]

They're basically saying (https://twitter.com/juliebosman/status/1110590957664288768)he's guilty and stand by the charges, but won't pursue them as they're prioritising violent crime and Smollett isn't a danger, so they're dropping it in exchange for community service and keeping the $10k bond.

http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4616&stc=1&d=1553622244
spoilered screenshot for sizeJulie Bosman and Joe Magats are anarchist liars who are just trying to get money from this. Sheer greed.

[Toy Soldier]

OMG I have just found a YouTube video PROVING that that person who posted that he was not exonerated on Twitter actually ran a lemonade stand when she was 9, FOR MONEY, so it's clear that she is obsessed with money and just wants some of that Smollett dollah. Discusten.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Institutionalised racism.

it stinks to high heaven

[Crimson Dynamo]

OMG I have just found a YouTube video PROVING that that person who posted that he was not exonerated on Twitter actually ran a lemonade stand when she was 9, FOR MONEY, so it's clear that she is obsessed with money and just wants some of that Smollett dollah. Discusten.

if only you had the balls to post that in the BLM thread

:skull:

[Toy Soldier]

This has totally destroyed the myth of White privlige.

Any time I see that argument again, I'll refer you to this.

It hasn't destroyed the "myth" of white privilege :joker:... what it has done though, is possibly suggest that "celebrity privilege" comes first. But I think we all knew that, really.

[arista]

The Chicago Police still say he is Guilty


Its the Fecking Lawyers

[arista]

George Soros donated 408 thousand dollars to Kim Foxx. The prosecutor who let Smollett walk.


Yes.

[Oliver_W]

False the court said NOT GUILTY so why don't you want to accept the ruling of a court of law?

I couldn't find a link for this, where did you hear it?

[GiRTh]

If you follow the trail, it will lead you to Obama.:laugh:

[Toy Soldier]

I couldn't find a link for this, where did you hear it?

A forum called TiBB.

[Oliver_W]

A forum called TiBB.

I'm actually not sure whether or not you're trolling haha. He was never found guilty or not guilty because the case was stopped before it got that far.

[Toy Soldier]

I'm actually not sure whether or not you're trolling haha. He was never found guilty or not guilty because the case was stopped before it got that far.

That means he's not guilty. And if it was dropped because someone was paid off, that means he's extra not guilty and his accusers are greedy. That's just the law Oli.

[Oliver_W]

That means he's not guilty. And if it was dropped because someone was paid off, that means he's extra not guilty and his accusers are greedy. That's just the law Oli.
Don't call me that, I ain't no skateboard trick!

[Glenn.]

The Chicago Police still say he is Guilty




His freedom says otherwise

[Toy Soldier]

His freedom says otherwise

And YouTube! And I think there was a London bus ad?

[bots]

if he was completely innocent, his bond would have been returned and he wouldn't have done community service already.

America has a completely different legal system to the UK.

[Oliver_W]

He could still face justice:

Jussie Smollett update: FBI reviewing circumstances of Jussie Smollett's charges being dropped, sources confirm (https://abc7chicago.com/fbi-reviewing-circumstances-of-jussie-smolletts-charges-being-dropped-sources/5219838/)

The FBI is reviewing the circumstances surrounding the dismissal of criminal charges against "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett, two law enforcement officials confirmed.

All 16 felony disorderly conduct counts against Smollett for allegedly lying to police were dropped Tuesday in exchange for community service and forfeiture of his $10,000 bond payment. A hearing Wednesday to expunge his criminal record has been delayed.

On Wednesday, Cook County State's Attorney Kim Foxx defended her office's decision to drop all charges against Smollett, who was accused of staging a racist and homophobic attack on himself.

"I believe this is a just outcome based on the circumstances," Foxx said.

Foxx said that the practice of dropping charges in exchange for community service and restitution is not uncommon for the Class 4 felonies that Smollett was charged with.

Even as Foxx said Smollett received no special treatment, officials in her office were circulating a memo that raised fresh questions.

The prosecutor's office dropped charges against Smollett on Tuesday, stunning the public and blindsiding Mayor Rahm Emanuel and CPD Supt. Eddie Johnson, who have been outspoken about what they said was overwhelming evidence to prove that Smollett had staged the attack in January in Chicago's Streeterville neighborhood.

A federal probe by the FBI and the U.S. Postal Inspection Service into whether Smollett played a role in sending a threatening letter to himself prior to the allegedly staged attack remains open, despite Tuesday's developments, a law enforcement official told ABC News.

[GiRTh]

VMs8Yo3Ltno:laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

donald is on this

says its a disgrace

this wont end well

[hijaxers]

donald is on this

says its a disgrace

this wont end well

Good because somethings gone very wrong here !

[Oliver_W]

donald is on this

says its a disgrace

this wont end well

When someone makes Trump look like the adult in the room, you know they're ****ed.

[bots]

the only reason Donald is on it is because of the maga reference. I do think something stinks with Smolletts case so it should be sorted out

[Tom4784]

donald is on this

says its a disgrace

this wont end well

A chance to persecute a black person is good for his optics with racists so I'm not surprised.

[JerseyWins]

VMs8Yo3Ltno:laugh:
:joker:

The snorting type of laugh at 2:04 has me howling :skull:

[arista]

[Chicago to sue Empire actor over 'racist attack'
The Empire actor has missed his deadline to pay $130,000 (£99,500) to cover the cost of the investigation into the alleged attack.]

Justice at last

https://news.sky.com/story/jussie-smollett-chicago-to-sue-empire-actor-over-racist-attack-11684688

[GiRTh]

wZXoErL2124
Juicy Smoulliet :laugh:

[Alf]

wZXoErL2124
Juicy Smoulliet :laugh:I watched that Chapelle stand up the other day on Netflix.

Very politically incorrect, it was very good and refreshing.

[Oliver_W]

wZXoErL2124
Juicy Smoulliet :laugh:

haha that was great :D Chapelle is one of the few comedians I've heard nothing but good things about, I'll have to check him out properly at some point!

[GiRTh]

I watched that Chapelle stand up the other day on Netflix.

Very politically incorrect, it was very good and refreshing.I havent watched all of it yet. I'll see if its still on Netflix.

[Ammi]

...Juicy Smoulliette.....:laugh:...

[JerseyWins]

Justice 4 Juicy :laugh: Dave Chappelle is such a legend... that ending to the clip :laugh2: I need to watch that full stand up asap