The Disappearance of Madeleine McCann - March 15 on Netflix

[Smithy]

tBnarCTOiCY

[Niamh.]

Oh interesting, I wonder what kind of a spin they will put on it? Can't watch the trailer atm

[Kazanne]

This link alludes to that story.He reckons the case will be solved
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/madeleine-mccann-top-police-officer-insists-case-will-be-solved-and-that-theres-huge-hope-to-be-had/ar-BBUKrIa?ocid=spartanntp

[Niamh.]

This link alludes to that story.He reckons the case will be solved
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/madeleine-mccann-top-police-officer-insists-case-will-be-solved-and-that-theres-huge-hope-to-be-had/ar-BBUKrIa?ocid=spartanntp

hhhmm wouldn't hold my breath tbh, they've been saying that for years. i hope it will though

[Vicky.]

LOL, I am sure Jim Gamble is one of the numpties who is sure of nothing except that the parents are not involved in any way, one of those pushing the 'burglary gone wrong' line. This will be bull**** and won't even touch what most believe happened.

[Shaun]

Can't wait for this to become another 55 page thread merry-go-round of "I think they did it", "I don't", "well I do" :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Can't wait for this to become another 55 page thread merry-go-round of "I think they did it", "I don't", "well I do" :laugh:

:laugh:

[Underscore]

Can't wait

[MTVN]

Can't wait for this to become another 55 page thread merry-go-round of "I think they did it", "I don't", "well I do" :laugh:

:joker:

[Gstar]

Gonna watch over the weekend

[LaLaLand]

Deffo watching this!

Are the parents getting any money from this? Just curious.

[Cherie]

Can't wait for this to become another 55 page thread merry-go-round of "I think they did it", "I don't", "well I do" :laugh:

:joker:


LT is banned at least :fan:

[Cal.]

Deffo watching this!

Are the parents getting any money from this? Just curious.

They were against it iirc and thought it would damage the current leads but idk

[bots]

I won't be watching it. I'm of the opinion that there is no point getting upset over things you have no control over. I just don't see the point of going over old ground over and over again without moving forward. MJ cough cough

[Niamh.]

I won't be watching it. I'm of the opinion that there is no point getting upset over things you have no control over. I just don't see the point of going over old ground over and over again without moving forward. MJ cough cough

Beat it :fist:

[Smithy]

Deffo watching this!

Are the parents getting any money from this? Just curious.

No they didn’t want any involvement in it

[Kazanne]

No they didn’t want any involvement in it

At least they were asked I suppose.

[Alf]

I saw a good conspiracy video on YT yesterday, about the Jo Cox murder.

It's the account of a private investigator and his findings.

I'll post it later, when I get on my laptop.

[Twosugars]

didn't follow the case
so what, people think the parents did it?

[Alf]

Does anybody know what political party the McCann's support?

Do we know if they're political or not?

[Underscore]

Does anybody know what political party the McCann's support?

Do we know if they're political or not?

they're friends with esther mcvey iirc

[Twosugars]

they're friends with esther mcvey iirc
not that idiot! :facepalm:

[Twosugars]

Does anybody know what political party the McCann's support?

Do we know if they're political or not?

deciding what line to take, Alf?
if tories then defend them and if labour attack? :hehe:

[bots]

Does anybody know what political party the McCann's support?

Do we know if they're political or not?

they were friends with gordon brown

[Alf]

they were friends with gordon brownInteresting

In this Jo Cox conspiracy video, it's pointed out that Brendan and Jo Cox were socially friendly with the Brown's

[Alf]

deciding what line to take, Alf?
if tories then defend them and if labour attack? :hehe:No! I'm just doing some investigating.

[Kazanne]

they were friends with gordon brown

Yes they were :wavey:

[Alf]

Yes they were :wavey:I asked the question with Gordon Brown's name in mind. How strange that I immediately got the answer I was looking for.

[Rob!]

Wasn’t Clement Frued’s name brought into this somewhere along the line?

[Alf]

Wasn’t Clement Frued’s name brought into this somewhere along the line?This is spooky, I was just about to ask if his name has ever been mentioned with this story.

Allegations about him came out in June 2016. Jo Cox was assassinated in June 2016.

[Niamh.]

This is spooky, I was just about to ask if his name has ever been mentioned with this story.

Allegations about him came out in June 2016. Jo Cox was assassinated in June 2016.

And he was friendly with the McCanns as well.

[Alf]

And he was friendly with the McCanns as well.Did Jo Cox know something that she shouldn't have?

[Niamh.]

Did Jo Cox know something that she shouldn't have?

Well that's certainly a theory that's been put out there

[LaLaLand]

didn't follow the case
so what, people think the parents did it?

Some are adamant they did it or played a part in it (covered-up accident), others not, MOST think they're incredibly dodgy at least. Just how they come across and their actions in the immediate aftermath and following.

I think for many too it's a class/money thing, they weren't accused/charged of neglect for leaving their kids "because they're rich medical professionals". Whereas if Joe Public did this, there'd probably be serious legal repercussions.

[Moniqua]

ah'll be watching :dazzler:

[Twosugars]

Some are adamant they did it or played a part in it (covered-up accident), others not, MOST think they're incredibly dodgy at least. Just how they come across and their actions in the immediate aftermath and following.

I think for many too it's a class/money thing, they weren't accused/charged of neglect for leaving their kids "because they're rich medical professionals". Whereas if Joe Public did this, there'd probably be serious legal repercussions.

I see. Thanks, Jonnii!

[Greg!]

Appaz this costed £1 million per episode :skull:

Bloody perched for it. Anyone know if it'll be out from midnight?

[Marsh.]

Appaz this costed £1 million per episode :skull:

Bloody perched for it. Anyone know if it'll be out from midnight?

Dakota Fanning playing Maddie?

[Denver]

Nothing will ever convince me they were not involved

[Greg!]

Dakota Fanning playing Maddie?

Not Lacey Turner demanding 250k per ep to play one of the detectives in the reconstruction footage

[Denver]

Not Lacey Turner demanding 250k per ep to play one of the detectives in the reconstruction footage

Sheridan Smith getting 500k for playing the neighbour?

[Vicky.]

I don't think they killed her as such. I think she had an accident after they drugged her up to make her sleep. Gerry came for his 'check' and discovered her and panicked like **** (autopsy would show drugs she shouldn't have had...) and basically, hid the body and came up with the story of abduction. I think Gerry is basically a sociopath who feels no 'normal' emotions, hence being able to do this to his daughter. I am not sure Kate even knew what happened until a bit later on. The abduction story is quite ridiculous and full of holes..and the 'burglars broke in and accidentally killed her but took the body and left all valuables' story is even more ridiculous.

[MTVN]

Interesting

In this Jo Cox conspiracy video, it's pointed out that Brendan and Jo Cox were socially friendly with the Brown's

A Labour MP who was friends with a former Labour leader? That sure is suspicious

[Toy Soldier]

I don't think they killed her as such. I think she had an accident after they drugged her up to make her sleep. Gerry came for his 'check' and discovered her and panicked like **** (autopsy would show drugs she shouldn't have had...) and basically, hid the body and came up with the story of abduction. I think Gerry is basically a sociopath who feels no 'normal' emotions, hence being able to do this to his daughter. I am not sure Kate even knew what happened until a bit later on. The abduction story is quite ridiculous and full of holes..and the 'burglars broke in and accidentally killed her but took the body and left all valuables' story is even more ridiculous.Yes, IMO the Maddie story is a cautionary tale against using over the counter antihistamines to sedate children. As though that should require a cautionary tale :umm2:. But it is actually a shockingly common thing to do, apparently :facepalm:.

There was a "mass exodus" from the pregnancy / parenting forum I was co-admin of because I went on a rant about how unthinkable it was for parents to dope their kids with these medications and I couldn't imagine anyone in their right mind doing it. Turned out quite a few of our members did it. Lolz.

[Vicky.]

I think it was something stronger than OTC histamines tbh. They were a group of doctors... 'proper' drugs won't be hard to get really and they knew they were going to be going out 'as adults' before they even went on the holiday so will have planned accordingly. I do think if it was OTC histamines they might have..reported it as its easy to explain away (especially if, as you say its fairly common to do). The likes of valium or something, not so much.

[Niamh.]

I don't think they killed her as such. I think she had an accident after they drugged her up to make her sleep. Gerry came for his 'check' and discovered her and panicked like **** (autopsy would show drugs she shouldn't have had...) and basically, hid the body and came up with the story of abduction. I think Gerry is basically a sociopath who feels no 'normal' emotions, hence being able to do this to his daughter. I am not sure Kate even knew what happened until a bit later on. The abduction story is quite ridiculous and full of holes..and the 'burglars broke in and accidentally killed her but took the body and left all valuables' story is even more ridiculous.

Yeah that's more in line with what I think aswell

Yes, IMO the Maddie story is a cautionary tale against using over the counter antihistamines to sedate children. As though that should require a cautionary tale :umm2:. But it is actually a shockingly common thing to do, apparently :facepalm:.

There was a "mass exodus" from the pregnancy / parenting forum I was co-admin of because I went on a rant about how unthinkable it was for parents to dope their kids with these medications and I couldn't imagine anyone in their right mind doing it. Turned out quite a few of our members did it. Lolz.

I was actually shocked that it was a common thing tbh I mean I've heard people say oh give them some calpol to knock them out etc but it's joking and usually when they're were teething or sick so actually needed it anyway

[Beso]

It wouldn't surprise me if this was another group of Paedophiles satisfying their lust.

[Toy Soldier]

I was actually shocked that it was a common thing tbh I mean I've heard people say oh give them some calpol to knock them out etc but it's joking and usually when they're were teething or sick so actually needed it anyway

So was I, I was ASSUMING no one would actually be doing it and properly ranting about how irresponsible and awful it was and then 4 or 5 members were like ":hmph: ... we do this" and things got a bit crazy :joker:.

I mean I think everyone does the "Oh thank god it's Calpol time! Night night!" when they have a genuinely sick kid because it's usually a break from the madness... but that's not the REASON for giving it just a helpful side effect. Giving a healthy child (or a healthy anyone to be honest) any sort of medication purely for convenience is mad in my opinion and just shows a total lack of understanding that all medications carry a risk even if it's a tiny one.

I think the McCann case suddenly fell into place for me hearing that. I always thought it didn't add up at all but I never really believed the "paedophile conspiracies" or that they deliberately killed her, and couldn't figure out why any parent would cover up a genuine accident, but the possibility of there being drugs in her system that would be discovered if there was a body is the "key" that makes it all make perfect sense. If they found her and she died in an accident, even if they were totally devastated, I think it's not just possible but LIKELY they would cover it up if they thought they would end up being prosecuted, thinking "there's nothing we can do about her being dead" and seeking to protect themselves and the rest of the family.

[Smithy]

Has anyone started it yet?

[Greg!]

I'm almost finished the third episode, I'm even more sure now that the parents did it

[Niamh.]

Has anyone started it yet?

Might watch a couple tonight but I'm away for the weekend after that so it'll be a while before I finish it i think

[Mitchell]

I’m on episode one, the first episode is VERY good towards the McCanns tbh

[RileyH]

Literally everyone I know is watching this I'mma perch tonight :p

[Greg!]

Screaming at the random cameo from Coleen Nolan and Carol McGiffin

[Rob!]

Screaming at the random cameo from Coleen Nolan and Carol McGiffin

I bet the Nolan witches had something to do with it :nono:

[Twosugars]

Idgi, how can they make this series if they have nothing new to add?
They can't implicate the McCanns or they'd sue them.

[Smithy]

This has been dragged for filth and people are saying it’s garbage

Might not even bother with it now :skull:

[Jason.]

NOT 8 episodes

[LaLaLand]

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[Rob!]

Watching ep 1 now.

I'm the journalist getting her hair curled and makeup done while giving an interview about a child abduction.

[Cal.]

I’ve heard they spend ages analysing pointless stuff like what the Algarve looked like a 100 years ago and how to play tennis nnn

[armand.kay]

Ok that cadaver sniffing dog has really rattled me. The bark pierced my core

[brat.]

she's a little... boring

[armand.kay]

I’ve heard they spend ages analysing pointless stuff like what the Algarve looked like a 100 years ago and how to play tennis nnn

yeah that first episode was basically a brochure ajsjdiadu

[Matthew.]

I think Gerry is basically a sociopath

Me watching BB8

[Matthew.]

I was going to watch it this weekend under the impression it was an hour and a half long but it turns out this is a whole series :skull:

[armand.kay]

Me watching BB8

:skull:

[armand.kay]

a mess @ the hotline being flooded with clairvoyants

[Toy Soldier]

So in contrast to the MJ doc... I've come away from this one LESS convinced that the parents had anything to do with it. :umm2:

Although the fact that they were all leaving them alone in their rooms and ****ing off for dinner is still insane, and obviously negligent.

[Underscore]

Having watched it, I've gone from firmly believing the parents did it to being less convinced. I'm now slightly tilted to the parents not doing it...

It was still deeply negligent leaving them on their own, but the parents will have to carry that burden for the rest of their lives. If they truly had no role, they'll be making up for it every second.

[Marsh.]

she's a little... boring

Maddie?

[Marsh.]

Kate and Gerry fuming this documentary won't be contributing to their mortgage?

[Underscore]

Kate and Gerry fuming this documentary won't be contributing to their mortgage?

I don't get why they're fuming about this documentary. From what I've heard it's changed more minds to support them than otherwise...

[Moniqua]

I CHOKED :joker:

https://i.imgur.com/qpjcu9F.png

[Twosugars]

omg, shouldn't laugh but that is funny

[armand.kay]

Having watched it, I've gone from firmly believing the parents did it to being less convinced. I'm now slightly tilted to the parents not doing it...


yeah same i'm actually shook by how much its changed my mind. Although i'll admit i never really followed this case in the first place.

I do the Kate and Gerry not wanting this documentary to be released news to of all been a publicity stun. The entire thing was bias towards them and they had several people on it who claimed to be their friends. Imo they lied to get people to run to watch it and i guess it worked lmaoo.

[Amy Jade]

I finished it last night, honestly the first few episodes were great - Very interesting. I think the 7th one was interesting too but it could have been 3 episodes long if not less.

Before watching I thought they sedated the kids and overdosed her and removed the body etc. I still think it is a possibility too but I lean more towards Gerry being responsible. Kate I do believe for some reason, can't even say why she just seems genuine.

However after the documentary and knowing that there were paedophiles in the area and a suspected abduction was thwarted just days before really close by of a child of a similar age really struck me, especially as a girl wearing nightwear like Maddie was seen being carried in the street by people can't be ignored.

I still blame the parents for leaving her ultimately but I am not so sure they harmed her like I once was.

[armand.kay]

I finished it last night, honestly the first few episodes were great - Very interesting. I think the 7th one was interesting too but it could have been 3 episodes long if not less.

Before watching I thought they sedated the kids and overdosed her and removed the body etc. I still think it is a possibility too but I lean more towards Gerry being responsible. Kate I do believe for some reason, can't even say why she just seems genuine.

However after the documentary and knowing that there were paedophiles in the area and a suspected abduction was thwarted just days before really close by of a child of a similar age really struck me, especially as a girl wearing nightwear like Maddie was seen being carried in the street by people can't be ignored.

I still blame the parents for leaving her ultimately but I am not so sure they harmed her like I once was.
tbh I think I only believed the parents did it theory because it was more interesting to me and the cadaver scent in the room and house seemed pretty damning. I also wasn't as away of human trafficking as I am now, because that really is the theory that makes the most sense.

[Amy Jade]

tbh I think I only believed the parents did it theory because it was more interesting to me and the cadaver scent in the room and house seemed pretty damning. I also wasn't as away of human trafficking as I am now, because that really is the theory that makes the most sense.

Yeah I am pretty much set on human trafficking or a paedophile now.

I think the dog thing is the only part that even swayed me but some of that doesn't make much sense...why did it signal the corpse was in the passenger seat? did they prop her up in the front seat with sunglasses on? If it had been the backseat or boot I'd have been much more suspicious tbh

[Nicky91]

my mom had watched it, this weekend


she found it interesting

[Niamh.]

Oh the power of a Netflix documentary [emoji1787]

[Smithy]

Has our Vicky watched? She’s the Mccan expert

[Smithy]

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Omg this whole thread on Twitter :omgno:

[Greg!]

I am actually so shook at the Irish man who saw a man carrying a child at night coming out months later saying he thought it was Gerry after seeing him come off the plane!!

[Moniqua]

omg am shaking in t'club rn :omgno:

[LaLaLand]

1107436600831684610

Omg this whole thread on Twitter :omgno:

Just read all of that and it left me feeling a bit ill. Makes you think doesn't it? Poor kid. :sad:

HOW can blood found of Maddie's in a rental car rented TWO WEEKS AFTER she vanished be deemed as insufficient evidence!? :omgno:

[Greg!]

I am actually so shook at the Irish man who saw a man carrying a child at night coming out months later saying he thought it was Gerry after seeing him come off the plane!!

Omg never mind they've just said it couldn't have been him, don't know what to bloody believe!

[Greg!]

The Scottish businessman who can't pronounce 'Madeleine' properly is really getting on my wick!

[thisisdanny]

Is this worth a watch? Also is this just one episode or is it a series

[Moniqua]

Is this worth a watch? Also is this just one episode or is it a series

8 episodes awooo :dazzler:

[thisisdanny]

8 episodes awooo :dazzler:

Oh. Maybe I'll not watch it tonight then :hehe:

[Smithy]

Just read all of that and it left me feeling a bit ill. Makes you think doesn't it? Poor kid. :sad:

HOW can blood found of Maddie's in a rental car rented TWO WEEKS AFTER she vanished be deemed as insufficient evidence!? :omgno:
Bc it wasn’t necessarily her DNA/Blood, that’s explained in the documentary
Oh. Maybe I'll not watch it tonight then :hehe:

Skip ep 1 if you do watch, it’s pointless, a lot of the eps are filled with filler too

[Amy Jade]

HOW can blood found of Maddie's in a rental car rented TWO WEEKS AFTER she vanished be deemed as insufficient evidence!? :omgno:
It wasn't her DNA. Basically the Portuguese police just knew DNA was found in the car and someone leaked the story and twisted it.

They discuss all the inaccurate news in the documentary, it's mad how much the newspapers manipulated the facts to get a salacious headline.

[Niamh.]

I love the way everyone believes what Netflix says as fact and massive revelations [emoji23]

[bots]

whatever happened to the little girl (and we wont find that out from a netflix fantasy) the parents were grossly negligent, and I will never understand why they were never charged with that at a minimum

[Toy Soldier]

whatever happened to the little girl (and we wont find that out from a netflix fantasy) the parents were grossly negligent, and I will never understand why they were never charged with that at a minimum

It did bug me that the documentary said something about "cultural differences" meaning that the Portuguese police couldn't understand why they had left the kids alone, because they didn't understand that this is "normal" in the UK. :umm2: **** off, no it isn't! I don't know anyone who would do it!

[Smithy]

It did bug me that the documentary said something about "cultural differences" meaning that the Portuguese police couldn't understand why they had left the kids alone, because they didn't understand that this is "normal" in the UK. :umm2: **** off, no it isn't! I don't know anyone who would do it!

Same :joker:

[armand.kay]

It did bug me that the documentary said something about "cultural differences" meaning that the Portuguese police couldn't understand why they had left the kids alone, because they didn't understand that this is "normal" in the UK. :umm2: **** off, no it isn't! I don't know anyone who would do it!

yeah at the beginning when they were talking about how relatable it is to leave your kids on their own to have dinner :skull:

[Niamh.]

It did bug me that the documentary said something about "cultural differences" meaning that the Portuguese police couldn't understand why they had left the kids alone, because they didn't understand that this is "normal" in the UK. :umm2: **** off, no it isn't! I don't know anyone who would do it!

Yeah I'd be really annoyed about that too if I were British (although they probably think we are the same tbf) The "norm" with Irish people who go on holiday abroad in places like that with kids is always bring your kids to the restaurant with you. . . (from anyone I know anyway)

[GoldHeart]

Is this even worth watching? . What information is mentioned that's new or that we don't already know?. I heard there's mention of Traffickers who "kidnapped " her but where is that information from?.

But either way the McCann's have been suspicious since the beginning what parents go out for dinner and leaves their young children on their own in a foreign country on holiday :suspect: . Sadly I think foul play is involved, I don't trust them . Their behaviour has always been weird especially throughout the police case .

[Crimson Dynamo]

Great series that ran like a huge promo for innocent Kate

Finally the doubters silenced

[Alf]

It was so sad at the end when it was showing video of Maddie with her family. And when she was singing "if you're happy and you know it" that choked me.

[UserSince2005]

bit of a boring show. 3 episodes in. hoping it would get better.
I was hoping for some drama storyline with them selling their kids to a portuguese paedophile and them getting caught and locked up forever.

[Alf]

bit of a boring show. 3 episodes in. hoping it would get better.
I was hoping for some drama storyline with them selling their kids to a portuguese paedophile and them getting caught and locked up forever.I think it's based on facts, not fiction.

[Elliot]

I CHOKED :joker:

https://i.imgur.com/qpjcu9F.png

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[Elliot]

Every story and theory, even the one said by the Mcanns themselves, is full of holes and i don’t think we’ll ever know what truly happened to Madeline. I personally believed she was accidentally drugged and killed and the Mcanns covered it up but who am I or anyone to say? Like Kate barely crying in one interview or Gerry not being externally emotional doesn’t really prove anything. Good documentary tho, was interesting to see the tabloids twist evidence with that Portuguese reporter.

[Josy]

I found this to be very pro McCann nearer the end.

My opinion has always been that the parents and the tapas people know a lot more about what happened than they let on, I've never believed the abduction story especially after having read the case files and everything else that's publically available.

This documentary never done anything to change my mind well apart from making me find Gerry even more slimy.

[Niamh.]

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?

[Alf]

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?

They were always after the parents from the start.

[Niamh.]

May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?

They were always after the parents from the start.

In their hire car though 25 days after she'd gone missing? Also, it doesn't sound very realistic that they get a corpse and just drop it around the apartment and into a hire car they were using without anyone noticing. That apartment had media and rubber neckers all over it all the time for a start.

[Twosugars]

Somebody's said they are satanists and used Maddy as human sacrifice in a black mass.
:skull:

[Josy]

May not be probable, but is it possible that the Portuguese police planted a corpse and blood in those places, knowing the dogs were coming and having access to do so?



They were always after the parents from the start.What about the cadaver scent picked up in kates clothes? Did the Portuguese police plant a body in them too?

[Josy]

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?They completely rubbished the dogs, said it wasn't evidence.

That's when I started thinking the documentary was pro McCann tbh

[Alf]

What about the cadaver scent picked up in kates clothes? Did the Portuguese police plant a body in them too?The clothes were handled by police before the dogs got a go at them.

[Josy]

The clothes were handled by police before the dogs got a go at them.I just dont believe they would go to those lengths tbh, they weren't after the parents from the start at all

[Alf]

I just dont believe they would go to those lengths tbh, they weren't after the parents from the start at allThey certainly wasn't searching for Maddie.

They got an early reporting of the guy who caught two people carrying a child and trying to hide the fact they had a child, when the guys headlights shone on them. Near the harbour, I think it was. They never followed that up immediately.

[Josy]

They certainly wasn't searching for Maddie.



They got an early reporting of the guy who caught two people carrying a child and trying to hide the fact they had a child, when the guys headlights shone on them. Near the harbour, I think it was. They never followed that up immediately.The McCann's weren't searching for her either [emoji23]

I do agree they could have done more.

Do you genuinely believe she was abducted then?

[Alf]

The McCann's weren't searching for her either [emoji23]

I do agree they could have done more.

Do you genuinely believe she was abducted then?Of course she was.

There's absolutely no motive or strong evidence that anything else happened.

[Josy]

Of course she was.



There's absolutely no motive or strong evidence that anything else happened.Hmm I completely disagree.

Theres actually no real evidence from the scene that she was abducted (apart from her just not being there anymore) in fact there's quite strong evidence that the abduction was staged, Kate's handprint being the only one on the window etc

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm just really confused by the whole thing. I didn't believe they were guilty of anything from the start, I just don't know when or how they could have disposed of the body so efficiently without anyone finding any trace of her.

Slowly, that started to change over time as I started to doubt their story more and more; I think there is some stuff that has been hidden, but I think its more likely it was to protect the group from negligence prosecutions and the potential of having their children removed.

I definitely lean more to abduction again, but I'm not honestly sure.

[Alf]

Hmm I completely disagree.

Theres actually no real evidence from the scene that she was abducted (apart from her just not being there anymore) in fact there's quite strong evidence that the abduction was staged, Kate's handprint being the only one on the window etcSo who's in on this then?

Just Kate and Gerry?

The whole of the holiday party?


When did they do it?
Why did they do it?
How did they get rid of the body, which hasn't been found in over a decade, in a place they presumably don't know that well?

[Josy]

So who's in on this then?



Just Kate and Gerry?



The whole of the holiday party?





When did they do it?

Why did they do it?

How did they get rid of the body, which hasn't been found in over a decade, in a place they presumably don't know that well?

Obviously I can't answer your questions with facts or the case would be solved lol I can only post my opinion and after reading up on it for years I definitely do not believe she was abducted, I lean more towards it being an accident that was covered up due to the parents knowing they had been negligent in leaving the kids alone as well as sedating them.

[Alf]

The biggest clue came in the last episode, and was found by Kate herself.

The book at the Tapas bar which stated that they were leaving their children alone, while they dined, and was available for anybody to see.

[Toy Soldier]

Easy (and frankly probable) answer to "what are the Tapas gang hiding" when it comes to their story and why the time frame doesn't make sense:

They weren't checking on them anywhere near as often as they claim and probably hadn't checked at all before Kate found her missing. They just don't want to say "yeah we were getting the kids to sleep then ****ing off the the tapas bar all evening, every evening".

[Alf]

I think more than 1 person carried out the abduction. They had the information that the children would be alone, and a crew of people planned and carried this out. Some as lookouts.

[Alf]

I think that there's a good chance that she's still probably alive and out there somewhere.

[Underscore]

Also, to do with the Tapas group, would you remember the exact times? After a couple of glasses of wine I wouldn't...

[Crimson Dynamo]

i would not be surprise if she went down that storm drain

that wee boy in cyprus met a similar fate

[thisisdanny]

I think I'm going to watch this this weekend.

I have so far avoided all spoilers so I don't know what happens :smug:

I sure hope Madeleine doesn't go missing :worry:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think I'm going to watch this this weekend.

I have so far avoided all spoilers so I don't know what happens :smug:

I sure hope Madeleine doesn't go missing :worry:

I hope you don't have children one day and one goes missing

Jesus

[Marsh.]

I hope you don't have children one day and one goes missing

Jesus

I'm sure if he has them he won't deliberately leave them alone... at night... in a foreign country... with an unlocked door.... with access to any stranger....

[AnnieK]

I'm sure if he has them he won't deliberately leave them alone... at night... in a foreign country... with an unlocked door.... with access to any stranger....

:clap1:

[Marsh.]

I think more than 1 person carried out the abduction. They had the information that the children would be alone, and a crew of people planned and carried this out. Some as lookouts.

The Tapas 9

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm sure if he has them he won't deliberately leave them alone... at night... in a foreign country... with an unlocked door.... with access to any stranger....

I'm sure you will be perfect parent

[Marsh.]

I'm sure you will be perfect parent

You have to be perfect to not neglect your children abroad?

:joker: Ok.

Whether you believe Maddie was abducted or not, the fact is she is gone because they neglected her. Whatever did happen, wouldn't have happened had they not done so.

Their negligence was not an accident. It was deliberate.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You have to be perfect to not neglect your children abroad?

:joker: Ok.

I'm sure you will be a perfect parent as I said before

[Marsh.]

I'm sure you will be a perfect parent as I said before

Again, there's nothing "perfect" about the basics of not abandoning your babies abroad.

If you purposely put your baby in the middle of a road and it gets ran over, it's not asking for perfection for you to have not put your baby in that position in the first place.

Again, no accident. A DELIBERATE action.

[Josy]

I'm sure if he has them he won't deliberately leave them alone... at night... in a foreign country... with an unlocked door.... with access to any stranger....Exactly

I genuinely dont believe for a minute ANYONE truly thinks the McCann's weren't neglectful.

[Josy]

I'm sure you will be a perfect parent as I said beforeIt's not about Marsh, it's about the McCann's being negligent

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's not about Marsh, it's about the McCann's being negligent

In your opinion

What children do you have?

What do you base this on?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Again, there's nothing "perfect" about the basics of not abandoning your babies abroad.

If you purposely put your baby in the middle of a road and it gets ran over, it's not asking for perfection for you to have not put your baby in that position in the first place.

Again, no accident. A DELIBERATE action.

Ridiculous comparison

[Marsh.]

In your opinion

What children do you have?

What do you base this on?

It's her opinion that this thread is about the McCann's? :laugh2:

Get better material.

[Marsh.]

Ridiculous comparison

Says you. Where is your proof?

[Josy]

In your opinion



What children do you have?



What do you base this on?Isn't everything posted here an opinion? :shrug:

Why would what children I or anyone else has prove your point in any way?

I'm basing it on the McCann's neglecting their children by leaving them alone in an unlocked apartment at night in a foreign country of course

[AnnieK]

I'm sure you will be a perfect parent as I said before

I am a parent, far from perfect, but I have never, nor would I ever, leave my child alone in a foreign country or at home whilst I went on the piss. You do not need to have children personally to know right from wrong when dealing with kids. As a parent YOU should know that

[Twosugars]

I am a parent, far from perfect, but I have never, nor would I ever, leave my child alone in a foreign country or at home whilst I went on the piss. You do not need to have children personally to know right from wrong when dealing with kids. As a parent YOU should know that
He does know that, really.
It's just you mustn't say a word against Kate. She's too pretty for that you see :shrug:

[zrc]

There wasn't anything new in the show, and there was a lot of padding to stretch the episodes out. We will never know one way or another what truly happened. Maybe she's still alive and will reappear at some point (this does happen), maybe she's dead. Regardless everyone will have their own spin on the events leading to Maddie's disappearance.

[Vicky.]

Has our Vicky watched? She’s the Mccan expert

The McCann case I don't know that much about (mind have read almost all of the files and thats what made up my mind, not media headlines) though was obsessed with it at one point, not watched yet and not sure if I plan to given the reactions as tbh, I genuinely cannot see how anyone could look into it all and come away convinced of the parents innocence, which is what is apparently happening. I mean, this is off a sun story right, so not posting the link but the caption...

'Madeleine McCann Netflix viewers convinced Maddie was secretly drugged by kidnapper hours before he broke into room to snatch her'

And this seems to be echoed everywhere, sorry but this is absolutely..ridiculous to me.

Documentary appears to have been mainly spin, which is unsurprising but pretty disappointing as I do tend to find netflix documentaries more..probing than most others (exceptions exist of course, but speaking geneally). 8 hours of nonsense about burglars leaving valuables and taking a dead child, and random abductors lurking in the shadows will just annoy the hell out of me, but will probably watch at some point.

Anyway, the documentary seems to have done what it was meant to, and convinced another few people that the parents had nowt to do with it. So it did its job, also probably reopened the coffers of the fund that was running dry so maybe they will have the 30k to pay Amaral now, after trying to ruin his life because he had the audacity to say he, and the police at the time, thought it was dodgy as hell. That they dared to look at the parents first, you know, like in ever child abduction/murder...parents/family are ALWAYS the first suspects, not random shadowy pedos who might have been hanging around waiting for the parents to neglect their kids again, to look away so they could drug the girl, then come back later that night to take her :umm2:

Sp yeah, not watched yet as responses sound like it would raise my blood pressure a lot. Theres a lot of odd things in this saga, but I always come back to the dogs. Those 'notoriously unreliable' highly trained dogs that everyone knows are useless and always get stuff wrong, which is of course why police use them in the first place! Along with so many of the 'they are innocent!' stories requiring so much mental gymnasics and acceptance of things that just make no sense at all (eg. the burglars accidentally killing her, then hiding her behind the sofa for a bit while they stood around arguing about what to do, then leaving cash and valuables and taking the body...umm, yeah if you say so) its unbelievable.

[Vicky.]

I've only watched the first episode so far but I've heard they explained away what one of the dogs found (the blood dog) but never explained why the cadaver dog indicated in the same car and apartment or what that might have been about?

This might have been answered but am just replying as I see posts tbh, should read thread first...

Gerrys explanation for the dogs indication in the hire car was that they had been transporting seabass and rotten nappies in the boot and thats what the dogs picked up :rolleyes:

Also I am sure at one stage it was that the handler was biased against them and made the dogs indicate..

[Smithy]

“The McCann case I don't know that muich about”

-proceeds to write a dissertation-

:fan:

I’d be interested to see if your opinion changes after watching it, either way

[Saph]

tbf I always blamed the parents and thought they'd been involved, but like most other people after watching it I kinda believe they had nothing to do with it now..

[Vicky.]

“The McCann case I don't know that muich about”

-proceeds to write a dissertation-

:fan:

I’d be interested to see if your opinion changes after watching it, either way

Fair point :joker:

Genuinely cannot see anything changing my mind, especially when it appears they left large inconsistencies out purposely. Really just sounds like more same old same old, 'loads of pedos in the area!' 'dogs can be wrong' 'bungling Portuguese police' etc :laugh:

[Niamh.]

This might have been answered but am just replying as I see posts tbh, should read thread first...

Gerrys explanation for the dogs indication in the hire car was that they had been transporting seabass and rotten nappies in the boot and thats what the dogs picked up :rolleyes:

Also I am sure at one stage it was that the handler was biased against them and made the dogs indicate..No I know what Gerrys explanation was but I mean what the documentary used as an explanation. .



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[Vicky.]

No I know what Gerrys explanation was but I mean what the documentary used as an explanation. .


Oh right yeah..

Will likely end up watching it at some stage, but 8 hours of spin..doesn't really interest me. Have heard the excuses and totally mad theories a hundred times before.

For anyone who has watched it, was the Gaspar statement brought up..about basically Payne being a pedo himself? It seems this was designed to make people think the parents were innocent, so I will be very very shocked if this was included mind D:

[Niamh.]

Oh right yeah..



Will likely end up watching it at some stage, but 8 hours of spin..doesn't really interest me. Have heard the excuses and totally mad theories a hundred times before.



For anyone who has watched it, was the Gaspar statement brought up..about basically Payne being a pedo himself? It seems this was designed to make people think the parents were innocent, so I will be very very shocked if this was included mind D:Netflix have a lot to answer for imo that ****ing Steve Avery ****e aswell. Poor old Goncalo is made out to be a villain aswell apparently

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[Vicky.]

Ah just seen a post by someone who watched it too..no mention of the blue holdall (that was large enough 'to hide a tennis racket' in apparently :umm2: ) going missing either.

[Niamh.]

This is a good article too

https://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-daily-mirror-presents-kate-mccanns.html?m=1

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[Vicky.]

This is a good article too

https://laidbareblog.blogspot.com/2019/03/the-daily-mirror-presents-kate-mccanns.html?m=1

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Kate was worried enough to keep checking the kids, but not motivated enough to take them to hospital, raise the alarm, or ask any of her equally qualified colleagues to examine them.

From that, I conclude that they were drugged, but not by a stranger

Despite their claims, there is no record that they made an officer aware of their suspicions.

From that, I conclude that if they were drugged, it was not by a stranger.

No record exists of them telling the police in any interview about their suspicions.

From that, I conclude that they deliberately withheld this information. That does not indicate a stranger

No testing was done until such time had passed that no interpretation of the results could be precise. The motive for testing at all was to return a negative result for Kate.

In conclusion, I can find no earthly reason why any parent believing they have two infants who have been sedated by a stranger would fail to seek help, tell the police and have them tested.

I can find many reasons why they might fail to do the above if they were responsible for the sedating, though.

Spot on.

[Smithy]

Oh right yeah..

Will likely end up watching it at some stage, but 8 hours of spin..doesn't really interest me. Have heard the excuses and totally mad theories a hundred times before.

For anyone who has watched it, was the Gaspar statement brought up..about basically Payne being a pedo himself? It seems this was designed to make people think the parents were innocent, so I will be very very shocked if this was included mind D:

No it wasn’t

[GoldHeart]

I haven't watched the Netflix film , but on YouTube there was a very interesting video about Madeleine. And the more & more the pieces of puzzle are fit together the more guilty the parents seem.

Their behaviour is NOT normal ! :suspect: .

I'm guessing all the Netflix film can do is speculate while showing news footage of the case , we'll never find out what happened. But I think Madeline was possibly drugged or hit her head and it was covered up .