49 dead in New Zealand mosque shootings

[bots]

There are multiple fatalities after shootings at two mosques in the city of Christchurch, New Zealand police have said.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern described it as a terrorist attack, and one of the country's "darkest days".

Three men and one woman are in custody, police commissioner Mike Bush said, but warned more suspects may be at large.

Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison said one of those arrested was an Australian citizen.

He described the suspected attacker as an "extremist right-wing violent terrorist".

Witnesses told local media they ran for their lives and saw people bleeding on the ground outside the Al Noor mosque.

A second mosque in the suburb of Linwood has been evacuated, and Police Commissioner Mike Bush said "multiple fatalities" were recorded at two locations. As yet, far fewer details have emerged from the second site.

Police emphasise that the situation is still evolving and have not said how many people have been injured or killed.

They said they had responded to "a number of IEDs (explosive devices) attached to vehicles, that we also stopped".

Authorities have advised all mosques in the city to shut down until further notice, saying this was an unprecedented act of violence.

Armed police have also been seen at Papanui High School in Christchurch, which has been cordoned off.
It is not yet known how many shooters there were, but the Herald reports that one gunman is believed to be an Australian who has written a manifesto outlining his intentions. In it, he espouses far-right ideology and anti-immigrant ideology.

Footage taken by one shooter has emerged, which he appears to have live-streamed as he shot victims in a mosque. Police called on the public not to share the "extremely distressing" material online.

Facebook said it had removed the shooter's Facebook and Instagram accounts as well as any support voiced for that crime.

The first report of an attack came from the Al Noor mosque, located in central Christchurch along Deans Avenue, facing Hagley Park. Witnesses there reported seeing people bleeding on the ground outside the building.

One unnamed survivor told TV New Zealand he saw a gunman shoot a man directly in the chest.

The attacker reportedly targeted the men's prayer room in the mosque, then moved to the women's room.

"What I did was basically just waiting and praying, God please, let this guy run out of bullets," the witness said.

"He came to this side, he shot this side, he went to another room and went to the ladies' section and shot them. I just heard one of the ladies has died."

A Palestinian man, who did not wish to be named, told AFP news agency he saw a man shot in the head, and heard rapid gunfire.

"I heard three quick shots, then after about 10 seconds it started again - it must have been an automatic, no one could pull a trigger that quick.

"Then people started running out. Some were covered in blood."

A second mosque in the suburb of Linwood has also been evacuated, and the police commissioner said "multiple fatalities" were recorded at two locations. There are far fewer details emerging from there, however.

Multiple casualties have been brought to Christchurch Hospital, where there is a heavy police presence.

A spokeswoman said Canterbury District Health Board (CDHB) has activated its mass casualty plan, according to New Zealand news site Stuff.co.nz.

Police earlier cleared Cathedral Square, where thousands of children had been holding a rally for action on climate change.

Police Commissioner Mike Bush said: "Police are responding with its full capability to manage the situation, but the risk environment remains extremely high.

"Police recommend that residents across Christchurch remain off the streets and indoors until further notice."

A lockdown on all schools in Christchurch has now been lifted, and parents are being told they can collect their children.

Australia's Prime Minister Scott Morrison tweeted: "I'm horrified by the reports I'm following of the serious shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand. The situation is still unfolding but our thoughts and prayers are with our Kiwi cousins."

As well as the numerous witness reports of casualties, the Bangladesh national cricket team appear to have narrowly escaped the shooting.

A reporter following the team, who were due to play New Zealand in a now-cancelled test match on Saturday, tweeted that the team had "escaped from a mosque near Hagley Park where there were active shooters".

Player Tamim Iqbal tweeted that the "entire team got saved from active shooters".

Bangladesh Cricket Board spokesman Jalal Yunus said most of the team had gone to mosque by bus and were about to go inside when the incident took place.

"They are safe. But they are mentally shocked. We have asked the team to stay confined in the hotel," he told the AFP news agency.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47578798

[Vicky.]

****ing vile...I genuinely do not get this 'reacting to terrorism with terrorism' mindset. When realy, they are just as bad as the people they think they are fighting back against, when really, they just want to be violent. These people they killed/injured are not terrorists, they are just normal people. RIP to the victims...

[Shaun]

Horrific. I swear the reports last night said there were only a couple of deaths, I must have misread.

[Smithy]

Awful, the guy live streamed it to Facebook too :umm2:

[Smithy]

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[Jessica.]

This is terribly sad. :sad: It's like someone attacking goldfish as revenge for shark bites. Absolutely cowardly. Devastating for their communities.

[Oliver_W]

Disgusting.

[Smithy]

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Jfc :umm2:

[Denver]

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Jfc :umm2:

It's pretty much blaming the muslims fault they were murdered and its sick

[Denver]

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This is what you call a PM, Not afraid to call out white extremists as Terrorists instead of blaming the muslims

[UserSince2005]

Terrible. I have been all around the South Island and compared to the north island it is very white. They killed all their Maori so in rural areas there is little to any diversity. However in a city like Christchurch they would be getting some immigrants. And I guess that’s why they were targeted.

[Nicky91]

ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh


that hatred towards muslims in general


very sad :( those terrorist groups themselves are a disgrace for their own religion, cause not all muslims are terrorists

[UserSince2005]

ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh


that hatred towards muslims in general


very sad :( those terrorist groups themselves are a disgrace for their own religion, cause not all muslims are terrorists

Not appropriate.

[Denver]

Sadly the death toll has risen to 49

[Oliver_W]

ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh

Terrorists and extremists have caused hatred toward muslims, but what caused this attack is the person holding the gun.

[arista]

Horrific. I swear the reports last night said there were only a couple of deaths, I must have misread.



Yes it was a around 9
early on.

[bots]

that statement from the australian senator is seriously ****ed up

[Nicky91]

Terrorists and extremists have caused hatred toward muslims, but what caused this attack is the person holding the gun.

well hate can get radical yes


and that person holding the gun, is just a lowlife piece of scum racist, hope he rots away in jail for the rest of life, maybe isolation cell will be good place for people like him

[arista]

[Three men and one woman in custody - police say more attackers may be at large]

The Evil Terrorists had easy pickings
https://news.sky.com/story/live-significant-number-killed-in-shootings-at-new-zealand-mosques-11665829


[There was 10 to 15 minutes of continuous shooting]


https://news.sky.com/story/live-significant-number-killed-in-shootings-at-new-zealand-mosques-11665829

[Denver]

ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh


that hatred towards muslims in general


very sad :( those terrorist groups themselves are a disgrace for their own religion, cause not all muslims are terrorists

This man has always been a bigot and a racist

He is just using terrorism by some so called Muslim groups to go and di the exact same thing, it makes him no better a person then them .

Most of the world will pray for muslims he attacked but nobody will be praying for him

[Vicky.]

This is terribly sad. :sad: It's like someone attacking goldfish as revenge for shark bites. Absolutely cowardly. Devastating for their communities.

Thats exactly what it is.
ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh


No, this man caused this. Its noone elses fault. Normal people can see that everyday Muslims are not the problem. Bigoted violent idiots like this guy cannot. But nothing caused this but his hate. Honestly, I reckon even without the likes of ISIS, he would have found some 'reason' to do it. Don't put the blame elsewhere.

[Cherie]

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How dare he describe him self as an 'ordinary' white man, scum is what he actually is

and what is a kebab removalist? :umm2:

[Smithy]

No, this man caused this. Its noone elses fault. Normal people can see that everyday Muslims are not the problem. Bigoted violent idiots like this guy cannot. But nothing caused this but his hate. Honestly, I reckon even without the likes of ISIS, he would have found some 'reason' to do it. Don't put the blame elsewhere.

Have to disagree, you only need to read his manifesto to see that he was influenced by right wing ideology.

[bots]

it's 49 now

[Beso]

Just why?

That is seriously ****ed up, can hatred really be that strong?

[Vicky.]

Have to disagree, you only need to read his manifesto to see that he was influenced by right wing ideology.

Its still his fault, regardless. Otherwise we could say that ISIS attacks are not the fault of the terrorists, its the fault of those making out the Quran says that they should kill all infidels..

[Denver]

Thats exactly what it is.


No, this man caused this. Its noone elses fault. Normal people can see that everyday Muslims are not the problem. Bigoted violent idiots like this guy cannot. But nothing caused this but his hate. Honestly, I reckon even without the likes of ISIS, he would have found some 'reason' to do it. Don't put the blame elsewhere.

He apparently had links to neo Nazi which itself is based on a major act of terrorism so he had these views for a long time and it's clear if day that he is using the so called Muslim terrorist groups as a reason.

But most people will have this guy down as mentally Ill because they refuse to believe a terrorist can be anything but a Muslim.

[smudgie]

:sad:
R.I.P. to all of the victims.
People going to their place of prayer, such an easy target.
These terrorists are cowards.

[Smithy]

Its still his fault, regardless. Otherwise we could say that ISIS attacks are not the fault of the terrorists, its the fault of those making out the Quran says that they should kill all infidels..

I’m not saying it’s not his fault, but the constant islmaphobic fanning of the flames by the right wing media played a part in this :shrug:

[Babayaro.]

Depressing news

[Vicky.]

He apparently had links to neo Nazi which itself is based on a major act of terrorism so he had these views for a long time and it's clear if day that he is using the so called Muslim terrorist groups as a reason.

But most people will have this guy down as mentally Ill because they refuse to believe a terrorist can be anything but a Muslim.

Yup. People like him will use any excuse. And yes, the excuses come thick and fast for white terrorists. Half the time, the news won't even use the word terrorist, and its just 'mentally ill man' :bored:
I’m not saying it’s not his fault, but the constant islmaphobic fanning of the flames by the right wing media played a part in this :shrug:

Oh yeah, played a part I understand. But many, all over are trying to make out it was someone elses fault basically, that he was lead by others, they corrupted his mind, etc etc. The mentally ill excuse is coming up a lot, like it always is when its a white terrorist. The excuses start almost immediately, placing blame elsewhere. Not suggesting thats what you were doing, but it..kind of gets my back up when people say it was 'someone/something elses fault'..because of this. Some things may well have influenced him a bit, even made him think that many would agree with what he did (and lets be honest, some ****ing will :( ) but the actual fault, lies with this ****ing violent bigoted idiot.

[Nicky91]

sadly i can see many more of these hate crime attacks coming (all bc of people similar to this suspect here with their radical racist behaviour towards muslims) :sad:

[Nicky91]

but yes RIP to the victims :( just people who went to the mosque for their daily prayers

it's so sad, and disgusting the way this person just shot them and ended their lives

[arista]

One of the Terrorists
came from Australia

Streamed it live on a head cam
on Facebook.



This was well planned
Busy daytime easy to shoot them all


CNN HD Talk:
a lady reporter watched the Horrific Facebook feed
she said Australian Terrorist 28 year old
he drove in the his car to the next Mosque
killing another 8. His Car had Bombs in it.

That video has been shared all over the Dark Web and normal Internet.

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/03/768x432/skynews-brenton-tarrant-new-zealand-gunman_4609175.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190315103005
The Terrorist Killer wanted to kill
as many Muslims as hew could
named as Brenton Tarrent

[Ashley.]

They just wanted to pray. What an awful, terrible man.

[Beso]

Just watched a 3 minute clip of this bastards. ..I hope he rots in hell, killing women as she pleads for mercy.

[arista]

Just watched a 3 minute clip of this bastards. ..I hope he rots in hell, killing women as she pleads for mercy.



Yes he was Evil
Terrorists like him should be put to death

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/10/article-6811785-11023836-458_964x532.jpg

[Shaun]

WIyBtmi7448

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/07/11017854-6811785-A_terrorist_who_opened_fire_on_a_New_Zealand_mosqu e_published_an-a-15_1552633683009.jpg
[A terrorist who opened fire on a New Zealand
mosque published an online manifesto detailing
his plans to carry out a massacre hours
before the attack]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811785/Shooter-opens-fire-New-Zealand-injures-four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html

[Oliver_W]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/15/07/11017854-6811785-A_terrorist_who_opened_fire_on_a_New_Zealand_mosqu e_published_an-a-15_1552633683009.jpg
[A terrorist who opened fire on a New Zealand
mosque published an online manifesto detailing
his plans to carry out a massacre hours
before the attack]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6811785/Shooter-opens-fire-New-Zealand-injures-four-people-witnesses-say-heard-20-shots.html

No-one wants islam to be prominent in the West, but that doesn't excuse killing innocent people. I don't care about his "manifesto"

[Kazanne]

Yup. People like him will use any excuse. And yes, the excuses come thick and fast for white terrorists. Half the time, the news won't even use the word terrorist, and its just 'mentally ill man' :bored:


Oh yeah, played a part I understand. But many, all over are trying to make out it was someone elses fault basically, that he was lead by others, they corrupted his mind, etc etc. The mentally ill excuse is coming up a lot, like it always is when its a white terrorist. The excuses start almost immediately, placing blame elsewhere. Not suggesting thats what you were doing, but it..kind of gets my back up when people say it was 'someone/something elses fault'..because of this. Some things may well have influenced him a bit, even made him think that many would agree with what he did (and lets be honest, some ****ing will :( ) but the actual fault, lies with this ****ing violent bigoted idiot.

Yes ,it's much like knife crime people blaming the government etc,at the end of the day the person who kills is untimately the one who should be condemned, like this scumbag,but excuses will be made by some.

[Northern Monkey]

Crazy bastard.I hope he’s locked up for the rest of his life.

[The Slim Reaper]

No-one wants islam to be prominent in the West, but that doesn't excuse killing innocent people. I don't care about his "manifesto"

Didn't you say we should let refugee's drown?

[Tom4784]

It's horrific but sadly I don't think this will be the last attack of it's kind. Right wing terrorism is a growing threat and it scares me more than anything because I think that kind of hatred is common in our society and I've already seen a lot of people in my day to day life already being pretty much glad that this has happened. It's terrifying how we are sliding backwards like this and I think these attacks will only become more common and widespread and I think people of all creeds, races and sexualities could end up suffering. Jo Cox was killed for her beliefs, that gospel church was attacked in the US as a response to Black Lives Matter and now this. Worrying times.

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Jfc :umm2:

What an utter cockrot.

[arista]

Didn't you say we should let refugee's drown?



But our nation can not afford Illegals/

[The Slim Reaper]

But our nation can not afford Illegals/

My bad. I apologise to MAGAboy then. It's ok to let refugees drown because we're living under a completely heartless and false need for austerity imposed by the government.

[arista]

Crazy bastard.I hope he’s locked up for the rest of his life.


Yes and No Online
permitted.


Thats how that Norway White Terrorist
spreads his vision - Online?
What a STUPID NATION

[arista]

My bad. I apologise to MAGAboy then. It's ok to let refugees drown because we're living under a completely heartless and false need for austerity imposed by the government.



Yes thats it.

[arista]

On CNN HD
a American went to Christchurch
to get away from mass killings.

Sadly NZ is now stuck in the Terrorism feed

[The Slim Reaper]

On CNN HD
a American went to Christchurch
to get away from mass killings.

Sadly NZ is now stuck in the Terrorism feed

Is he ok? That poor guy; my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.

[arista]

Is he ok? That poor guy; my thoughts and prayers go out to him and his family.


Its a Lady
she is in shock

[The Slim Reaper]

Its a Lady
she is in shock

I can only sympathise with her. She is the real victim in all of this.

[Nicky91]

Didn't you say we should let refugee's drown?

Malta's PM Joseph Muscat also said something similar to that i thought if i can remember

[arista]

Malta's PM Joseph Muscat also said something similar to that i thought if i can remember



Yes he got pissed off
with so many Africans invading , illegally

[Scarlett.]

Is everyone ready to admit that far right terrorism is a growing problem yet?

[Twosugars]

Is everyone ready to admit that far right terrorism is a growing problem yet?

not everyone is ready

some of our members thought the recently created thread about far right terrorism was unnecessary :idc:

[Twosugars]

My bad. I apologise to MAGAboy then. It's ok to let refugees drown because we're living under a completely heartless and false need for austerity imposed by the government.

MAGAboy :hehe:

[Oliver_W]

Didn't you say we should let refugee's drown?

And an irrelevant nonsequitor to you too.

[The Slim Reaper]

And an irrelevant nonsequitor to you too.

Except it's neither irrelevant or a non sequitur. All I did was use your own previous words versus a statement you made today.

[Twosugars]

yup, Olivier, your position is erm, a bit inconsistent.
Condemning shooting and advocating drowning.
Not to mention being gay and right wing. Not a happy combination.

[Oliver_W]

yup, Olivier, your position is erm, a bit inconsistent.
Condemning shooting and advocating drowning.

I don't see how they're contradictory. Leaving people to drown is simply inaction - are we meant to remove the guns and bombs from every terror group in the world, to feed every starving person in every country, and place trampolines at the foot of every lemming cliff? Or shall we only save lives when it will lead to further people risking their lives by jumping in inadequate boats, so they'll be rescued and brought into Europe?

[Beso]

tyup, Olivier, your position is erm, a bit inconsistent.
Condemning shooting and advocating drowning.
Not to mention being gay and right wing. Not a happy combination.


Says who?

What a silly thing to say. :shrug:

[armand.kay]

Is everyone ready to admit that far right terrorism is a growing problem yet?

first of all, are they ready to admit that this is terrorism??

[Denver]

Is everyone ready to admit that far right terrorism is a growing problem yet?

It's always been here people just dont want to admit that a white person can be a terrorist

[Beso]

first of all, are they ready to admit that this is terrorism??

It's either terrorism or a mental right wing leaning lunatic who plays to much call of duty.:crazy:

[Beso]

It's always been here people just dont want to admit that a white person can be a terrorist

IRA

[Niamh.]

IRAIrish people are the exception of course

[Oliver_W]

first of all, are they ready to admit that this is terrorism??

I don't think anyone's denied it's terrorism. I hope not anyway.

[Denver]

IRA

Even further then that.

Technically Hitler was a terrorist and if you was to delve deep into history you will probaly find many acts of terrorism.

It's not a modern day thing

[armand.kay]

I don't think anyone's denied it's terrorism. I hope not anyway.

Mainstream media still seems to have reservations about straight calling these people terrorists.

[armand.kay]

IRA

Irish people are the exception of course

tbh irish people were only recently granted 'whiteness'

[Beso]

Even further then that.

Technically Hitler was a terrorist and if you was to delve deep into history you will probaly find many acts of terrorism.

It's not a modern day thing

I know, so I'm not sure what your post was all about..to everyone a terrorists a terrorist..admittidly people will have different levels of sympathy towards the famI lies of the victims in each case of terrorism there has ever been..but that's life I'm afraid, and down to past terrorist acts, from all sides.

[Denver]

I know, so I'm not sure what your post was all about..to everyone a terrorists a terrorist..admittidly people will have different levels of sympathy towards the famI lies of the victims in each case of terrorism there has ever been..but that's life I'm afraid, and down to past terrorist acts, from all sides.

My point is people are only quick to jump to terrorism if it's a Asian person not a white

[Niamh.]

tbh irish people were only recently granted 'whiteness'It'll be revoked in Brexit [emoji23]

[Northern Monkey]

Why does it have to turn into some left vs right argument?

I’m sure everyone agrees that this is not a good thing.No one agrees that killing innocent people is the right course of action.

[Beso]

My point is people are only quick to jump to terrorism if it's a Asian person not a white

Oh I know.I have read on here all day about news not saying it..but I've also been stuck in a van all day, listening to the radio describe it as a terrorist act.

I get a breather now and again into someone's house to repair their tv, and guess what..it's BBC or itv news reporting it as a terrorist act!!

Do people mean white racist old men when they say that ****e?

[Oliver_W]

tbh irish people were only recently granted 'whiteness'

Celts were pretty darn white, and the demographics of Ireland haven't changed hugely since then.

[Niamh.]

Celts were pretty darn white, and the demographics of Ireland haven't changed hugely since then.That's not exactly what he meant though

[armand.kay]

Celts were pretty darn white, and the demographics of Ireland haven't changed hugely since then.

yeah they've always looked the same but our idea of who is and isn't white has changed so much over the years.

[armand.kay]

race seems to concrete to us but it's actually such a flimsy concept

[Smithy]

Celts were pretty darn white, and the demographics of Ireland haven't changed hugely since then.

:skull:

[Beso]

That's not exactly what he meant though

Are you referring to me?

[Beso]

race seems to concrete to us but it's actually such a flimsy concept

That sounds interesting, can you expand a little.

[Niamh.]

Are you referring to me?No, Armand

[Beso]

No, Armand

Oh, always thought armand was an Amanda. .carry on.x

[armand.kay]

That sounds interesting, can you expand a little.


Race isn't biological it's a social construct, we're all human at the end of the day. The idea of race as we know it only came about during the slave trade and later on with the study of eugenics. Irish people were never considered to be white until later on. Even now someones race can differ depending on where they are in the world, a mixed race person in America will still be seen as black while in the uk acknowledge they're mixed more. In Africa theres also a whole load of different ethnic groups that anywhere else in the world would all be seen as black but in their respective countries they view each other as a different races.

[Brother Leon]

ISIS/Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups, caused this tbh


that hatred towards muslims in general


very sad :( those terrorist groups themselves are a disgrace for their own religion, cause not all muslims are terrorists

That’s like saying the Western World caused ISIS due to their involvement and innocent casualties in the Middle East.

[arista]

['Many more would have died': Hero mosque worker grabs
NZ Terrorist attacker's gun
Witnesses described how a young mosque
worker grabbed the attacker's gun
and forced him to flee the scene. ]


https://news.sky.com/story/many-more-would-have-died-hero-mosque-worker-grabs-nz-attackers-gun-11666492

[Beso]

Race isn't biological it's a social construct, we're all human at the end of the day. The idea of race as we know it only came about during the slave trade and later on with the study of eugenics. Irish people were never considered to be white until later on. Even now someones race can differ depending on where they are in the world, a mixed race person in America will still be seen as black while in the uk acknowledge they're mixed more. In Africa theres also a whole load of different ethnic groups that anywhere else in the world would all be seen as black but in their respective countries they view each other as a different races.

So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Is it merely down to there being more white people in the world, so by mere numerical supremecy they will always considered to be the most racist due to their colour and perhaps sex n age?


Took me ages to digest your post..thank you.

[Oliver_W]

There are differences between the races which are physical so nothing to do with society, so to call it entirely socially constructed is a bit GCSE Sociology tbh.

[Niamh.]

So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Is it merely down to there being more white people in the world, so by mere numerical supremecy they will always considered to be the most racist due to their colour and perhaps sex n age?


Took me ages to digest your post..thank you.Aren't there more Asians than white people in the world?

[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-mosque-attack-cannon-street-muslim-islam-a8825541.html

Hours after dozens of people were killed in an attack on two mosques in New Zealand, a man was attacked "with a hammer" outside an east London mosque.

A group of three men shouted Islamaphobic abuse as they drove past the place of worship on Cannon Street Road, eyewitnesses said.

They called people attending Friday prayers “terrorists”, they added.

A few worshippers followed the blue car, only for the men to climb out of the vehicle and attack one of them with a weapon, thought to be a hammer. Police said the 27-year-old victim sustained head injuries.

The two groups fought before the men climbed back into the car and drove away.

In a clip filmed by a witness, one of the alleged attackers can be seen clinging to the car's bonnet in an attempt to get away.

"The suspects returned to their car and left the scene before police arrived," a spokesperson for London's Metropolitan Police said, adding that officers were called to the scene at around 1pm on Friday afternoon. Enquiries are ongoing to trace this vehicle. The suspects are all described as white men, believed to be aged in their 20s."

The London Ambulance Service was called but the 27-year-old victim was driven to an east London hospital by friends instead.

"At hospital, it was established that the victim had sustained a head injury, which was not believed to be serious," the spokesperson added.

"However, he was abusive towards hospital staff, and left the hospital without being treated. Investigations are ongoing and officers have not identified any motive for the attack."

No arrests have yet been made.

The alleged assault occurred the same day 49 Muslims were killed in a terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand.

Following the New Zealand attack police officers in the UK stepped up patrols around mosques on Friday.

Officers were deployed to provide reassurance and advice on protective security as Muslims attended Friday prayers around the country.

"Whilst there is no intelligence linking these appalling events in Christchurch to the UK, additional uniform patrols will continue in London and nationally over the coming days, focusing on places of worship and specific communities," Neil Basu, the national policing lead for counter-terrorism, said.

"We are paying specific attention to Mosques, particularly Friday prayers.

"Many communities will be understandably concerned and local officers will be out and about providing reassurance and protective security advice to communities, places of worship and businesses."

Sajid Javid, the Home Secretary, is also due to hold talks with anti-terrorism chiefs and security officials to discuss possible further measures to protect mosques in the UK.

[Moniqua]

i am appalled :(

[Oliver_W]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/london-mosque-attack-cannon-street-muslim-islam-a8825541.html

Hours after dozens of people were killed in an attack on two mosques in New Zealand, a man was attacked "with a hammer" outside an east London mosque.

A group of three men shouted Islamaphobic abuse as they drove past the place of worship on Cannon Street Road, eyewitnesses said.

They called people attending Friday prayers “terrorists”, they added.

A few worshippers followed the blue car, only for the men to climb out of the vehicle and attack one of them with a weapon, thought to be a hammer. Police said the 27-year-old victim sustained head injuries.

The two groups fought before the men climbed back into the car and drove away.

In a clip filmed by a witness, one of the alleged attackers can be seen clinging to the car's bonnet in an attempt to get away.

"The suspects returned to their car and left the scene before police arrived," a spokesperson for London's Metropolitan Police said, adding that officers were called to the scene at around 1pm on Friday afternoon. Enquiries are ongoing to trace this vehicle. The suspects are all described as white men, believed to be aged in their 20s."

The London Ambulance Service was called but the 27-year-old victim was driven to an east London hospital by friends instead.

"At hospital, it was established that the victim had sustained a head injury, which was not believed to be serious," the spokesperson added.

"However, he was abusive towards hospital staff, and left the hospital without being treated. Investigations are ongoing and officers have not identified any motive for the attack."

No arrests have yet been made.

The alleged assault occurred the same day 49 Muslims were killed in a terrorist attack at two mosques in New Zealand.

Following the New Zealand attack police officers in the UK stepped up patrols around mosques on Friday.

Officers were deployed to provide reassurance and advice on protective security as Muslims attended Friday prayers around the country.

"Whilst there is no intelligence linking these appalling events in Christchurch to the UK, additional uniform patrols will continue in London and nationally over the coming days, focusing on places of worship and specific communities," Neil Basu, the national policing lead for counter-terrorism, said.

"We are paying specific attention to Mosques, particularly Friday prayers.

"Many communities will be understandably concerned and local officers will be out and about providing reassurance and protective security advice to communities, places of worship and businesses."

Sajid Javid, the Home Secretary, is also due to hold talks with anti-terrorism chiefs and security officials to discuss possible further measures to protect mosques in the UK.

tbh that deserves its own thread. gross behaviour.

[Beso]

Aren't there more Asians than white people in the world?

If there is then I want to change it to levels of terrorism used for my argument.

[Northern Monkey]

Race isn't biological it's a social construct, we're all human at the end of the day. The idea of race as we know it only came about during the slave trade and later on with the study of eugenics. Irish people were never considered to be white until later on. Even now someones race can differ depending on where they are in the world, a mixed race person in America will still be seen as black while in the uk acknowledge they're mixed more. In Africa theres also a whole load of different ethnic groups that anywhere else in the world would all be seen as black but in their respective countries they view each other as a different races.

This ideology is quite confusing.Race is obviously biological.
How people of different races treat each other though,Yes is sociological.
However tribalism as unpleasant as it can be,is a natural trait.
It’s seen all across the animal kingdom including humans.
It is true to say that tribalism doesn’t just cross racial lines but is also reflected in geographical origin.
Hopefully one day humans will evolve past tribalism if we survive long enough.
But to say race is a social construct is confusing and inaccurate.

[Cherie]

Inadvertently seen some footage of this that was sent to me on whatapp, those poor people and the absolute terror they must have felt

[Twosugars]

So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Is it merely down to there being more white people in the world, so by mere numerical supremecy they will always considered to be the most racist due to their colour and perhaps sex n age?


Took me ages to digest your post..thank you.

now let me think :think:

who invaded and colonised most of non-white countries? whites
who treated the indigenous populations as inferior and expoited them? whites
who established slave-trade and supremacist ideologies like nazism? whites

:facepalm:

[Oliver_W]

now let me think :think:

who invaded and colonised most of non-white countries? whites
who treated the indigenous populations as inferior and expoited them? whites
who established slave-trade and supremacist ideologies like nazism? whites

:facepalm:

To blame living whites for these things is like blaming innocent muslims for terrorism.

[Smithy]

To blame living whites for these things is like blaming innocent muslims for terrorism.

Because views like that aren’t at all passed down through generations

[Oliver_W]

Because views like that aren’t at all passed down through generations

Are you suggesting extreme islam isn't passed down through the generations?

Blaming anyone (be it whites or muslims) for stuff they haven't personally done is deeply stupid.

[Moniqua]

now let me think :think:

who invaded and colonised most of non-white countries? whites
who treated the indigenous populations as inferior and expoited them? whites
who established slave-trade and supremacist ideologies like nazism? whites

:facepalm:

educate them :clap1:

[armand.kay]

There are differences between the races which are physical so nothing to do with society, so to call it entirely socially constructed is a bit GCSE Sociology tbh.

This ideology is quite confusing.Race is obviously biological.
How people of different races treat each other though,Yes is sociological.


Race as we understand it is a construct. I didn't say there aren't any biological differences between people from around the wold but race is a social construct. There are physical/ biological differences between different ethnic groups of black people around the world, but with the way we view race they're still simply categorised as black. The fact that how i'm categorised is dependent on the era and/or location i'm in proves this.

[armand.kay]

There was a time when people from the same noble family were seen as a race.

[Twosugars]

To blame living whites for these things is like blaming innocent muslims for terrorism.

look you are white and I am white, but at least I'm not in denial about my race and the undercurrent of superiority among some whites, so evident in our history as a race
it has a long history and it's far from dead,
some would say it's becoming somewhat livelier of late

[Oliver_W]

There was a time when people from the same noble family were seen as a race.

That's new to me, where did you read that?

[Oliver_W]

look you are white and I am white, but at least I'm not in denial about my race and the undercurrent of superiority among some whites, so evident in our history as a race
it has a long history and it's far from dead,
some would say it's becoming somewhat livelier of late
History nothing. My history started 27 years ago. I can't personally share the glory of walking on the moon, so I'm not sharing the shame of racists from the past.
Y'know what else has a long history and is far from dead - islamic terror, which (in the West at least) some might say has been "somewhat livelier" in the past few years. That doesn't excuse victimising innocent muslims, and Norman Smith down the road shouldn't have the past of slavery hanging over his head.

[armand.kay]

So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Is it merely down to there being more white people in the world, so by mere numerical supremecy they will always considered to be the most racist due to their colour and perhaps sex n age?


Took me ages to digest your post..thank you.

It's less to do with numerical supremacy and more to do with white supremacy. the way we categorise race now is rooted in white supremacy. It was created for that very reason to establish dominance over everybody else. Racial hierarchy was used to justify colonialism, slavery and genocide. while we've moved on as people whiteness is still seen as the norm and everybody else is an other (mind, blacks stay perched right at the bottom).

[Twosugars]

you're betraying your lack of knowledge, Olivier

[Oliver_W]

you're betraying your lack of knowledge, Olivier

Explain and expand.

[Northern Monkey]

you're betraying your lack of knowledge, Olivier

He’s right though.Just because he doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean he lacks knowledge.

Some of the people who shout the loudest of not judging every Muslim by the actions of a minority then go on to judge white people on the actions of their distant ancestors.

Race will always be an issue if we’re constantly bringing it up.

Defining people of a certain ethnicity by the actions of other people of that ethnicity is racism.
We’re all human.Let’s stop trying to put everyone in categories.

[Smithy]

Explain and expand.

[6 Marks]

[Twosugars]

He’s right though.Just because he doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean he lacks knowledge.

Some of the people who shout the loudest of not judging every Muslim by the actions of a minority then go on to judge white people on the actions of their distant ancestors.

Race will always be an issue if we’re constantly bringing it up.

Defining people of a certain ethnicity by the actions of other people of that ethnicity is racism.
We’re all human.Let’s stop trying to put everyone in categories.

You misunderstood.
I don't blame Olivier (or myself) for past acts of discrimination of non-white people.
But I do take issue with people on the right claiming ignorance of where right wing extremism comes from and why it's a problem.
Parmnion asked if whites get accused of racism more bc there's more of them, Olivier thinks the history or inter-race relations doesn't matter bc it started before he was born. Others questioned why we should discuss right wing terrorism at all. That's what I object to, this attempt at pretending the issue doesn't exist or bc we have anti-discrimination laws so it must be ok. Truly Trumpian view of the world.

[Alf]

No place for this in a free World.

Scum

[Alf]

This isn't the answer.

Yes! There's problems, but this isn't the way to solve them.

We have to grow up.

[Alf]

Let's start laughing again.

What else make you happier?

[Alf]

We gotta communicate in a more cival manner.

It's OK to disagree and have different opinions on things, it's ok to take the Pi55 out of each other from time to time. It's better than this what we have now.

[Alf]

Anybody wanna join Alf in a TIBB group hug. Say "I"?

[Alf]

Anybody wanna join Alf in a TIBB group hug. Say "I"?I'm serious, this is a community, let's start acting like a good one.

This is our lives now

[Alf]

It's twenty to eight in the morning, and I'm holding back in saying, "Don't look back in anger"

Or, part and parcel of living in a major city.

Don't believe the hype

[Northern Monkey]

It's twenty to eight in the morning, and I'm holding back in saying, "Don't look back in anger"

Or, part and parcel of living in a major city.

Don't believe the hypeIt’s Saturday,Go back to sleep

[Alf]

It’s Saturday,Go back to sleepI'm too lively, NM me old friend.

[Northern Monkey]

I'm too lively, NM me old friend.

Well i was trying to sleep but one of the little human alarm clocks thought it was a good idea to wake me up :fist:

[Oliver_W]

You misunderstood.
I don't blame Olivier (or myself) for past acts of discrimination of non-white people.
But I do take issue with people on the right claiming ignorance of where right wing extremism comes from and why it's a problem.
Parmnion asked if whites get accused of racism more bc there's more of them, Olivier thinks the history or inter-race relations doesn't matter bc it started before he was born. Others questioned why we should discuss right wing terrorism at all. That's what I object to, this attempt at pretending the issue doesn't exist or bc we have anti-discrimination laws so it must be ok. Truly Trumpian view of the world.
Of course right wing terrorism should be discussed, I never took issue with that. What I did mean was any reason to dislike whites for the past can be applied to muslims in the present, and both are stupid. "Imperialism" doesn't excuse screeching on about how whites are inherently evil, just as islamic terror attacks don't mean all muslims are terrorists.

[Beso]

now let me think :think:

who invaded and colonised most of non-white countries? whites... is that really true?
who treated the indigenous populations as inferior and expoited them? whites.......We're they the only ones ?+
who established slave-trade and supremacist ideologies like nazism? whites.....can you post proof.

:facepalm:...go away with your baiting facepalm thingy.

[Cherie]

He’s right though.Just because he doesn’t agree with you doesn’t mean he lacks knowledge.

Some of the people who shout the loudest of not judging every Muslim by the actions of a minority then go on to judge white people on the actions of their distant ancestors.

Race will always be an issue if we’re constantly bringing it up.

Defining people of a certain ethnicity by the actions of other people of that ethnicity is racism.
We’re all human.Let’s stop trying to put everyone in categories.

:clap1:

[Cherie]

educate them :clap1:

So by that logic you as an Irish person are responsible for all past IRA atrocities?

[Beso]

So by that logic you as an Irish person are responsible for all past IRA atrocities?

Don't really matter, she will be pardoned.

[Twosugars]

...go away with your baiting facepalm thingy.

the emoji is there to be used if appropriate
if you don't like it take it up with the mods

and stop editing my posts! look at the mess in the last post of mine you quoted
I won't be answering to it btw; if you've never heard of colonialism (or pretend you haven't) go and read up

[Twosugars]

So by that logic you as an Irish person are responsible for all past IRA atrocities?

nobody's claiming that so stop

[Beso]

the emoji is there to be used if appropriate
if you don't like it take it up with the mods

and stop editing my posts! look at the mess in the last post of mine you quoted
I won't be answering to it btw; if you've never heard of colonialism (or pretend you haven't) go and read up


Only white people did that in your eyes....go fact check your history lesson.

[Cherie]

nobody's claiming that so stop

what are you claiming then?

[Twosugars]

what are you claiming then?


I replied to NM about that.

[Oliver_W]

I won't be answering to it btw; if you've never heard of colonialism (or pretend you haven't) go and read up
Your first mention of colonialism was in reply to this, from Parm: So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Colonialism isn't "these days", it's in the past. May as well blame current muslims for the Ottomon Empire.

[Twosugars]

Your first mention of colonialism was in reply to this, from Parm: So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Colonialism isn't "these days", it's in the past. May as well blame current muslims for the Ottomon Empire.

Only fair to seek answers in historical context.

What would be your answer to Parm's question?

[Twosugars]

Don't really matter, she will be pardoned.

Are you saying the Irish get preferential treatment?

[Oliver_W]

Only fair to seek answers in historical context.

What would be your answer to Parm's question?
My flippant answer "people are stupid", but the real answer is that some people get caught up in tribalism and identity politics, which bang on about "white privilege" and various forms of critical theory, so it gets to the point where in their heads, every single white person is representative of an apocryphal oppressive system. Every person is representative and responsible for themself and their own actions, there's never an excuse for collective blame.

[Twosugars]

My flippant answer "people are stupid", but the real answer is that some people get caught up in tribalism and identity politics, which bang on about "white privilege" and various forms of critical theory, so it gets to the point where in their heads, every single white person is representative of an apocryphal oppressive system. Every person is representative and responsible for themself and their own actions, there's never an excuse for collective blame.

Difficult not get "caught up" in tribalism and identity politics if these very things are quoted as justification for attrocities by the perpetrators themselves.
This last atrocity comes with a long manifesto for example. Previous ones also came with justifications.
I'm not blaming every person, but I'd certainly blame the perpetrators, their supporters and their apologists. I think that's fair enough, as you say they are responsible for their actions.

[Oliver_W]

Difficult not get "caught up" in tribalism and identity politics if these very things are quoted as justification for attrocities by the perpetrators themselves.
This last atrocity comes with a long manifesto for example. Previous ones also came with justifications.
I'm not blaming every person, but I'd certainly blame the perpetrators, their supporters and their apologists. I think that's fair enough, as you say they are responsible for their actions.
I prefer not to sink to the level of thinking the same way as terrorists, thanks.
I'm not gonna dignify the manifesto by reading it, any more than I'd read a charter by ISIS.

[Beso]

Are you saying the Irish get preferential treatment?

Are you really going to dispute that after this week's events?

[Twosugars]

Are you really going to dispute that after this week's events?

No, I'm not. I don't know enough about it.
But I wonder what people who do know more, like Niamh, Cherie or Ramsay, would say.

[Twosugars]

I prefer not to sink to the level of thinking the same way as terrorists, thanks.
I'm not gonna dignify the manifesto by reading it, any more than I'd read a charter by ISIS.

Nobody's asking you to think like them. But it's only fair to read their justifications if you engage in detailed discussion about it.
It's called knowing what you're talking about. It may be an old-fashioned notion these days, but useful.

[JerseyWins]

Heard about this at work yesterday, that's tragic.. :bored: Apparently the guy recorded it all with like a go pro cam on his head so it was like a first person viewing like COD :skull: And he said "Let's get this party started" before he began the attack? :skull:

It's probably sickening to watch but I'm kinda curious, is the video online?

[Denver]

A 50th person has sadly died

[Denver]

Also a man from Oldham was arrested for posting support towards the attack

[Denver]

1107121095537250305

A truly remarkable woman the world needs more leaders like her

[Tom4784]

1107121095537250305

A truly remarkable woman the world needs more leaders like her

Gotta hand it to her and her government, they've handled the aftermath of this tragedy fantastically.

[Marsh.]

Your first mention of colonialism was in reply to this, from Parm: So why is it that white people for want of a better phrase always get the most anger aimed at them for being what is described as racist these days?

Colonialism isn't "these days", it's in the past. May as well blame current muslims for the Ottomon Empire.

Things don't exist in a bubble. Society isn't the way it is "these days" just because, it's informed by its history both good and bad. It can't just be ignored.

Nobody's "blaming" anyone, they're putting things into context.

[Denver]

Gotta hand it to her and her government, they've handled the aftermath of this tragedy fantastically.

She also had certain types of guns banned in 24 hours which is no time at all considering countries like The US and their stance on guns and gun related deaths.

It takes a special type of leader to go all in with their heart and not just the head

[Beso]

Heard about this at work yesterday, that's tragic.. :bored: Apparently the guy recorded it all with like a go pro cam on his head so it was like a first person viewing like COD :skull: And he said "Let's get this party started" before he began the attack? :skull:

It's probably sickening to watch but I'm kinda curious, is the video online?




Could this bloke have played too many video games?

[Jake.]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

No. Let’s not link the two please, he carried out the actions of a hateful, racist terrorist, not a Call of Duty fanatic.

[Beso]

No. Let’s not link the two please, he carried out the actions of a hateful, racist terrorist, not a Call of Duty fanatic.

Could be both imo.

[Northern Monkey]

Could be both imo.

Don’t you be coming for our games Parmo :fist:

Imo games don’t cause violent attacks.The perpetrator has to have something not right upstairs already.
People don’t just play COD or Duke Nukem and decide to go on a killing spree.

[bots]

Don’t you be coming for our games Parmo :fist:

Imo games don’t cause violent attacks.The perpetrator has to have something not right upstairs already.
People don’t just play COD or Duke Nukem and decide to go on a killing spree.

his video cam was clearly inspired by such games, but streaming the event was the least of his crimes lets be honest.

[Beso]

Don’t you be coming for our games Parmo :fist:

Imo games don’t cause violent attacks.The perpetrator has to have something not right upstairs already.
People don’t just play COD or Duke Nukem and decide to go on a killing spree.

But playing them could trigger that thing upstairs in the mind of lunatics like this bastard.

[Redway]

But playing them could trigger that thing upstairs in the mind of lunatics like this bastard.

Not unless they’re about 15 years old. Let’s not make excuses for the actions of a grown-arse man.

[Cherie]

1107121095537250305

A truly remarkable woman the world needs more leaders like her

Shows very decent governance of the Country

[Twosugars]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

You have the manifesto and the killings. He is a scum far right terrorist and white supremacist. Accept it and stop looking for excuses :rolleyes:

[Beso]

You have the manifesto and the killings. He is a scum far right terrorist and white supremacist. Accept it and stop looking for excuses :rolleyes:

Already accepted that fact? So what's your problem this time?

[Twosugars]

Already accepted that fact? So what's your problem this time?
just tired of your nonsense

just coming up with stuff like video games or mental problems,
anything to deflect from the real problem of far right terrorism

read his manifesto and read what security experts say

[Beso]

just tired of your nonsense

just coming up with stuff like video games or mental problems,
anything to deflect from the real problem of far right terrorism

read his manifesto and read what security experts say



I worry about what goes through your head at times, you should take a break from the forum perhaps.

imo, labelling terrorism causes more terrorism.

[Redway]

I worry about what goes through your head at times, you should take a break from the forum perhaps.

imo, labelling terrorism causes more terrorism.

What a wonderfully sensitive thing to say to someone who’s battled depression. Watch your mouth.

[Twosugars]

I worry about what goes through your head at times, you should take a break from the forum perhaps.

imo, labelling terrorism causes more terrorism.

don't worry about my head

worry about your own conscience

calling out terrorism is the honest thing to do, not burying your head in the sand and pretending it's something else

[arista]

Its now 50 dead in total dead
sadly.


The killer now arrested was acting alone
he made sure he had a car full of military weapons
many adapted.

https://news.sky.com/story/live-significant-number-killed-in-shootings-at-new-zealand-mosques-11665829

[Smithy]

imo, labelling terrorism causes more terrorism.

Hasn’t stopped you in the past though :shrug:

[user104658]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

his video cam was clearly inspired by such games, but streaming the event was the least of his crimes lets be honest.

It's say it's more as BOTS says here, Parm... he may have been inspired to stream it and use the headcam due to modern gaming / streaming but I think it's a stretch to say that it played any part in triggering or causing the attack. He also shouted "don't forget to subscribe to Pewdiepie" on the stream. It seems more like he did all of these "extras" to gather as much attention as possible (as ultimately, that is the goal in a terrorist attack) so he utilised a lot of these things to do that. The motivation for doing it is, sadly, the ever-increasing levels of hatred and violence we're seeing towards immigrants and minorities, and the fact that it's being tolerated and even celebrated by certain sections of society. A lot of rage out there, and a lot of twisted ideologies.

[armand.kay]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

i mean the guy published a whole manifesto echoing alt-right, white supremacist rhetoric but sure yeah, lets blame video games...

[Tom4784]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

Let's not scapegoat the actions of a white terrorist on video games or mental health issues.

[Beso]

Renaud Gabriel Camus is a French writer of both prose fiction and political polemics. He founded his own minor political party, characterized as a blend of left and right politics. He has written about homosexuality and gay rights.


.isn't this the guy who's ideas he was transfixed by?

[Northern Monkey]

It's say it's more as BOTS says here, Parm... he may have been inspired to stream it and use the headcam due to modern gaming / streaming but I think it's a stretch to say that it played any part in triggering or causing the attack. He also shouted "don't forget to subscribe to Pewdiepie" on the stream. It seems more like he did all of these "extras" to gather as much attention as possible (as ultimately, that is the goal in a terrorist attack) so he utilised a lot of these things to do that. The motivation for doing it is, sadly, the ever-increasing levels of hatred and violence we're seeing towards immigrants and minorities, and the fact that it's being tolerated and even celebrated by certain sections of society. A lot of rage out there, and a lot of twisted ideologies.
Vid here about that.This guy thinks he said that about Pewdiepie to get the left to turn on him.
5nsd9w3dHrI

[Denver]

The scumbags family has disowned him and want him to face a death penalty

[Denver]

Also an 18 year old has been arrested and denied bail and is facing 14 years in prison for sharing the live stream and posting pics of the mosque with the caption Target acquired

[Beso]

What a wonderfully sensitive thing to say to someone who’s battled depression. Watch your mouth.

Had I known it would indeed have been in fact an extremely insensitive thing to say...but guess what, I didn't. ..


However Twosugars, I do apologise if I caused you angst....I doubt I did but if I did I apologise

[Mystic Mock]

Could this bloke have played too many video games?

The only thing a Video Game can do is give out a method on how to kill people, if Video Games didn't exist then he'd probably use TV Shows, Movies, Books, or Cheryl Cole songs to commit his crimes.

I honestly don't think that this guy has any excuses tbh.

[user104658]

Had I known it would indeed have been in fact an extremely insensitive thing to say...but guess what, I didn't. ..





However Twosugars, I do apologise if I caused you angst....I doubt I did but if I did I apologiseParm I personally don't think it's you who should be apologising to 2S but I suppose that's down to him and Redway; obviously he might feel differently.

[Vanessa]

How awful. :sad:

[Beso]

Parm I personally don't think it's you who should be apologising to 2S but I suppose that's down to him and Redway; obviously he might feel differently.

Thank you.

[Benjamin]

On CNN HD
a American went to Christchurch
to get away from mass killings.

Sadly NZ is now stuck in the Terrorism feed

No, we won’t. It was done for shock value by the guy, because ‘no Country is safe’’ however he didn’t factor in that NZ wouldn’t eat into his propaganda. Many site sources of his video have been banned here (liveleak etc) and massive fines are being imposed by those who share the video. He tried to divide the country, however has done the opposite.

[arista]

No, we won’t. It was done for shock value by the guy, because ‘no Country is safe’’ however he didn’t factor in that NZ wouldn’t eat into his propaganda. Many site sources of his video have been banned here (liveleak etc) and massive fines are being imposed by those who share the video. He tried to divide the country, however has done the opposite.



Nice to hear from you Ben.
Yes from all our TV news NZ is
very united.

[Benjamin]

Inadvertently seen some footage of this that was sent to me on whatapp, those poor people and the absolute terror they must have felt

Please don’t watch that. :(

Can’t believe people are actually sharing and watching

[Twosugars]

No, we won’t. It was done for shock value by the guy, because ‘no Country is safe’’ however he didn’t factor in that NZ wouldn’t eat into his propaganda. Many site sources of his video have been banned here (liveleak etc) and massive fines are being imposed by those who share the video. He tried to divide the country, however has done the opposite.

:clap1: you stay strong guys, don't let that scum and his scummy ideology win

[Cherie]

Please don’t watch that. :(

Can’t believe people are actually sharing and watching

I opened it inadvertently as it was from an Indian friend who sends me videos of her family gatherings and such and I thought that was what it was originally as the first video she sent was the aftermath took me a few seconds to realise what it was, she never warned me what it was :nono: I haven't shared it tyvm

[armand.kay]

Please don’t watch that. :(

Can’t believe people are actually sharing and watching

somebody retweeted it onto my tl, luckily i realised what it was before i saw anything

[Denver]

I accidentally saw it on Twitter

[Crimson Dynamo]

I watched the live stream

Looked just like a scene from call of duty which I am sure he was a big fan of.

[Oliver_W]

The morbid part of me wonders if anyone has added a video game style HUD to the footage yet.