EU votes to stop moving clocks twice a year in 2021

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/eu-votes-to-stop-moving-clocks-twice-a-year-11675731


[The European Parliament has voted
to stop moving clocks forward an
hour in spring and back again in the autumn.
Politicians passed the measure by 410
votes to 192 - meaning seasonal time shifts,
which were introduced during World War One
to save energy, will end in 2021.
A final law will be produced after
discussions with member nations,
but the UK government has indicated
it will stick to the current system after Brexit.
Supporters of scrapping daylight saving time point to scientific studies that have linked
the twice-yearly changes to illness because of how they interrupt biological cycles.]


Lucky Nicky

[Smithy]

Tbf it is kind of dumb I don’t get why there’s a need to do it

[arista]

Tbf it is kind of dumb I don’t get why there’s a need to do it

Its to do with Scotland
in the UK

[UserSince2005]

****ing control freaks. Leave us the **** alone you weirdos

[Alf]

:bawling:****ing control freaks. Leave us the **** alone you weirdosDon’t speak like that against your masters, you will be locked up for a hate crime.

[smudgie]

That’s it, we will move to America.:fist:

[user104658]

UK govt. is lying, even if/when we Brexit if the whole of Europe stops changing their clocks the UK will do so too fairly quickly because the constant relative fluctuations would be a pain in the arse. We might be "leaving Europe" but whether we like it or not they're going to be our nearest geographical neighbours forever.

[Ant.]

This is the only thing I know about how Brexit affects the UK and I'm not happy about it this makes me wish I voted remain

[joeysteele]

I've always thought it a nuisance anyway.
I'd agree to the UK scrapping it too.

[Cherie]

I always enjoyed the extra hour in bed :oh: It also made evenings dark at 4pm which is lovely in winter

[Crimson Dynamo]

good idea

[Crimson Dynamo]

next can we scrap school holidays that were to allow children to pick potatoes?

[UserSince2005]

Why should we lose GMT, it’s our history, Europe would for sure make us go on BST for the whole year

[Morgan.]

I always enjoyed the extra hour in bed :oh: It also made evenings dark at 4pm which is lovely in winter

I hate early dark nights :omgno: Especially when my travel time hike is between 4 and 7 sksksk

[Cherie]

I hate early dark nights :omgno: Especially when my travel time hike is between 4 and 7 sksksk
:omgno:

GMT is an institution though, BST is not quite the same :bawling:

[Vicky.]

UK govt. is lying, even if/when we Brexit if the whole of Europe stops changing their clocks the UK will do so too fairly quickly because the constant relative fluctuations would be a pain in the arse. We might be "leaving Europe" but whether we like it or not they're going to be our nearest geographical neighbours forever.

This^

[user104658]

Why should we lose GMT, it’s our history, Europe would for sure make us go on BST for the whole yearI'm not sure where you're getting that from; BST is the adjusted time, if we scrapped daylight saving we would be on GMT year round.

[Mitchell]

Agree with them tbh

[Beso]

By all means cancel the one that goes forward, but don't away my extra hour in bed.

[Northern Monkey]

Authoritarianism

[user104658]

I agree with removing it. It does cause all sorts of sleep issues and basically a "mini jetlag" twice a year where your body clock and the time of day aren't properly synced. I'd also guess that a LOT of productivity is lost in the week or two following the clocks going forward when everyone is tired all the time because their body thinks it's getting up an hour early every day.

My youngest has had life long sleep issues but with careful, exact timing it's possible to get her into a great rhythm of going to bed at 8.30 and up at 7. Any deviation can mean she's awake for HOURS in the middle of the night. The stupid clocks changing can **** up her sleep cycle for a month.

[Niamh.]

Excellent, it's stupid anyway

[MTVN]

UK govt. is lying, even if/when we Brexit if the whole of Europe stops changing their clocks the UK will do so too fairly quickly because the constant relative fluctuations would be a pain in the arse. We might be "leaving Europe" but whether we like it or not they're going to be our nearest geographical neighbours forever.

Most of Europe is already on a different time to us though so is it that big a deal

[Twosugars]

Another example why we should remain :)
Europe is the best

[MTVN]

We need the clock changes for the farmers anyway :rant:

[Twosugars]

Most of Europe is already on a different time to us though so is it that big a deal
That's not the point, changing time twice a year is

[Crimson Dynamo]

the bloody spanish dont get up till lunchtime so they can feck off

[MTVN]

That's not the point, changing time twice a year is

But why would we ditch it just cos European nations have

[user104658]

But why would we ditch it just cos European nations haveBecause currently the time difference is always the same because Europe observes DST. If they stop and we keep it, the time difference will be different at different times of year, which is an added complication.

[MTVN]

If we were permanently on summer time it wouldn't be getting light in the winter till like 9am :worry:

[MTVN]

Because currently the time difference is always the same because Europe observes DST. If they stop and we keep it, the time difference will be different at different times of year, which is an added complication.

Maybe a slight inconvenience but not majorly so. So they're an hour ahead in France half the year and in the other half we're the same time, it's not that difficult to navigate surely

[Crimson Dynamo]

If we were permanently on summer time it wouldn't be getting light in the winter till like 9am :worry:

up here it does not get light till 9 and gets dark at 3 in December

in Shetland its 11 and 2 :omgno:

[Nicky91]

up here it does not get light till 9 and gets dark at 3 in December

in Shetland its 11 and 2 :omgno:

here it gets light at 8 and it gets dark around 5 or 5:30 in December

[Twosugars]

Maybe a slight inconvenience but not majorly so. So they're an hour ahead in France half the year and in the other half we're the same time, it's not that difficult to navigate surely
Incorrect. They're always ahead bc both them and UK change times almost at the same time.

[Nicky91]

we really hate washing the dishes when it gets too dark, and we have to put our garbage outside :omgno:


scary when it's so dark, also since we watch crimewatch show here, and we see most break-in's happen when it's dark

[Twosugars]

But why would we ditch it just cos European nations have

Bc it's a silly thing to do, changing time back and forth

[Crimson Dynamo]

Incorrect. They're always ahead bc both them and UK change times almost at the same time.

Bc it's a silly thing to do, changing time back and forth



:nono:

[Nicky91]

Bc it's a silly thing to do, changing time back and forth

i usually change time to summer or winter time, before i go to bed


otherwise i'll get crazy when i wake up without changing it

[MTVN]

Incorrect. They're always ahead bc both them and UK change times almost at the same time.

I meant once they stop changing times

[MTVN]

we really hate washing the dishes when it gets too dark, and we have to put our garbage outside :omgno:


scary when it's so dark, also since we watch crimewatch show here, and we see most break-in's happen when it's dark

Do you wash your dishes in the garden or something

[Twosugars]

I meant once they stop changing times
Ah, then you were right of course.

[Twosugars]

Nicky, do you have vampires in your area?

[Nicky91]

Do you wash your dishes in the garden or something

no :laugh: but in the summer it's still light, and in winters we need to put our lights on, so in summers is better for nature in terms of saving energy

[Nicky91]

Nicky, do you have vampires in your area?

i saw bats the other day yeah :joker:


but vampires no

[arista]

we really hate washing the dishes when it gets too dark, and we have to put our garbage outside :omgno:


scary when it's so dark, also since we watch crimewatch show here, and we see most break-in's happen when it's dark


The Dark is not so bad
Get some LED torches
https://media.rs-online.com/t_large/F9076463-01.jpg

[bots]

when i was a kid, they tried one year where they didn't change the clocks, and all the school kids had to have reflectors attached to their clothes. It was a basic safety problem for kids. I would imagine it would be the same again

[Twosugars]

i saw bats the other day yeah :joker:


but vampires no

could be vampire bats :omgno:

best wear a garland of garlic around your neck and hold a crucifix when you put rubbish out

[Alf]

They're stealing your Summer.

[UserSince2005]

I'm not sure where you're getting that from; BST is the adjusted time, if we scrapped daylight saving we would be on GMT year round.

We would switch to BST, its well known that BST fits best for modern life.

[bots]

We would switch to BST, its well known that BST fits best for modern life.

countries can choose which one they want to make permanent

[Twosugars]

They're stealing your Summer.

stop the hysteria

[hijaxers]

Yes been wanting this to happen since the trial year ! so much better with no clock changes and extra hr of light in evenings in winter.

[Jessica.]

I voted for this on the EU Parliament website, there's no need for it to be changing these days.

[Jessica.]

when i was a kid, they tried one year where they didn't change the clocks, and all the school kids had to have reflectors attached to their clothes. It was a basic safety problem for kids. I would imagine it would be the same againIn Ireland they give reflective vests to school kids anyway, it's encouraged even in daylight.

[Babayaro.]

we really hate washing the dishes when it gets too dark, and we have to put our garbage outside :omgno:

?????

[Alf]

stop the hysteriaWhy don't you stop being authoritarian and demanding I stop having my say?

[Underscore]

Totally back this

[Underscore]

Well done EU yet another good policy, will miss you :clap1:

[Alf]

Well done EU yet another good policy, will miss you :clap1:We ain't gone yet, don't be trying to jinx it.

[Twosugars]

Why don't you stop being authoritarian and demanding I stop having my say?
that wasn't my intention

edit:
why such hysteria?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some members (me and smudgie) may remember the three-year experiment launched in 1968, when British Standard Time (GMT+1) was employed all year round.

The clocks were put forward as usual in March 1968 and not put back until October 1971.

The Department for Transport's initial analysis of road casualty data during the experiment suggested more people were injured in the darker mornings, but fewer people were injured in the lighter afternoons.

It estimated a net reduction of 2,700 people killed or seriously injured during the first two years of the experiment.

However, it was recognised at the time that the calculations did not take into account drink-driving legislation passed in 1967, so the Department for Transport eventually re-analysed the data and factored that in. In 1989, it found the data agreed broadly with the earlier estimates.

It suggested that those living in central England and southern Scotland benefited most from the experiment. However, northern Scotland saw a net increase in the number of people killed or seriously injured.

A White Paper published in 1970 said it was impossible to quantify the advantages and disadvantages of British Standard Time.

The experiment was debated in the Commons on 2 December 1970 and - by a vote of 366 to 81 - the experiment was discontinued.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-11643098

as kids were going to school in the dark we got given florescent armbands to wear :shocked:

[bots]

as kids were going to school in the dark we got given florescent armbands to wear :shocked:

i remember them ... and in Scotland it was blinking dark :laugh:

[Alf]

that wasn't my intention

edit:
why such hysteria?I just like putting a different spin on things, I think it's healthy to hear different opinions, I don't want to be known as an NPC.

Why are you bothered?

[Livia]

What Europe rules on is of no interest to me... we should be out now.

[Twosugars]

I just like putting a different spin on things, I think it's healthy to hear different opinions, I don't want to be known as an NPC.

Why are you bothered?

bc you called hysteria some convo we had in the EU thread
thought you were against hysteria so I pointed out that comment of yours here was hysterical

[Twosugars]

What Europe rules on is of no interest to me... we should be out now.
how insular
Oh so you planning on towing us away as well?
It's like Mexico saying they don't care what the US rules on