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arista
27-03-2019, 05:51 PM
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Assuming she gets her 3rd time
Deal through

Rob!
27-03-2019, 05:52 PM
Hasn’t she got to significantly change it before that deal can be put to a vote again?

arista
27-03-2019, 05:53 PM
Hasn’t she got to significantly change it before that deal can be put to a vote again?


If she has enough numbers
there saying she will override the speaker

Vicky.
27-03-2019, 05:54 PM
Erm, what would be the point? Surely if someone else is taking up the baton, it should be them who actually sort the deal, not her, and she has failed drastically

Crimson Dynamo
27-03-2019, 05:54 PM
This should turn out well

Vicky.
27-03-2019, 05:55 PM
Outrageous. The Tory party quite happy to deliver a very bad deal for the UK simply for its own ends. An absolute travesty of the democratic process, a disgrace to the nation and the end of the right to call Westminster the mother of parliaments.

A comment on the link..how ****ing true D:

arista
27-03-2019, 05:59 PM
Erm, what would be the point? Surely if someone else is taking up the baton, it should be them who actually sort the deal, not her, and she has failed drastically

Yes she said she is
not doing the next phase


https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-conservative-leader

arista
27-03-2019, 06:05 PM
[Tied in fourth are Home Secretary Sajid Javid and Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt at 8/1, according to Sky Bet.]

A Muslim PM



[Meanwhile:
Oddsmonkey has Gove as the firm frontrunner to be the next prime minister at 3/1,
despite the rising possibility of a general election and concerns he remains electorally toxic with the public.]


https://www.theweek.co.uk/94729/who-will-be-the-next-prime-minister-betting-odds-and-polls

Tom4784
27-03-2019, 06:13 PM
Let May see it out, I say.

Parliament is a mess and you can't put the blame on that on her shoulders alone. Nobody knows what they really want and until Parliament can agree, no one will be able to deliver Brexit.

reece(:
27-03-2019, 06:16 PM
More blackmail from Mrs Mayhem.. vote my deal or you're stuck with me!

bots
27-03-2019, 06:17 PM
If the majority of the house support May's deal, they will make the vote on it happen. The speaker cannot overrule the will of parliament

May is doing all that she needs to get the deal approved, I'm sure she will be relieved to get the hell out of it.

With regard to it being a good or bad deal, it is a compromise deal that lasts for 2 years only. Anyone that votes against it is not genuinely following the will of the british people to leave the EU

arista
27-03-2019, 06:18 PM
More blackmail from Mrs Mayhem.. vote my deal or you're stuck with me!



Very True.


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arista
27-03-2019, 06:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2r0rXgWsAApqqK.jpg

arista
27-03-2019, 06:25 PM
Let May see it out, I say.

Parliament is a mess and you can't put the blame on that on her shoulders alone. Nobody knows what they really want and until Parliament can agree, no one will be able to deliver Brexit.



No she can not sleep at night.
Its best she goes.

New Leader around July.

Twosugars
27-03-2019, 06:32 PM
[Tied in fourth are Home Secretary Sajid Javid and Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt at 8/1, according to Sky Bet.]

A Muslim PM



[Meanwhile:
Oddsmonkey has Gove as the firm frontrunner to be the next prime minister at 3/1,
despite the rising possibility of a general election and concerns he remains electorally toxic with the public.]


https://www.theweek.co.uk/94729/who-will-be-the-next-prime-minister-betting-odds-and-polls

Trump will be delighted with a Muslim PM :laugh:

arista
27-03-2019, 06:34 PM
Trump will be delighted with a Muslim PM :laugh:





Yes but as he is a Conservative
they would get on.............................

Example Trump with Muslims in Saudi Arabia.
https://akns-images.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2017420/rs_1024x759-170520103406-1024.donald-trump.cm.52017.jpg?fit=inside|900:auto&output-quality=90

arista
27-03-2019, 06:34 PM
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Matthew.
27-03-2019, 06:37 PM
Hope she doesn’t resign, that means we’d end up with Rees Mogg or Boris as PM and that’s a pretty sickening idea tbh :umm2:

arista
27-03-2019, 06:41 PM
Hope she doesn’t resign, that means we’d end up with Rees Mogg or Boris as PM and that’s a pretty sickening idea tbh :umm2:


No he will not take the job.

bots
27-03-2019, 06:41 PM
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reece(:
27-03-2019, 06:41 PM
Hope she doesn’t resign, that means we’d end up with Rees Mogg or Boris as PM and that’s a pretty sickening idea tbh :umm2:
I'd say Gove most likely

smudgie
27-03-2019, 06:42 PM
If the majority of the house support May's deal, they will make the vote on it happen. The speaker cannot overrule the will of parliament

May is doing all that she needs to get the deal approved, I'm sure she will be relieved to get the hell out of it.

With regard to it being a good or bad deal, it is a compromise deal that lasts for 2 years only. Anyone that votes against it is not genuinely following the will of the british people to leave the EU

Exactly as I see it.
An awful job for anyone to take on.
She has worked hard at it, at least she makes an effort to carry out the referendum, unlike many others.

Twosugars
27-03-2019, 06:48 PM
Exactly as I see it.
An awful job for anyone to take on.
She has worked hard at it, at least she makes an effort to carry out the referendum, unlike many others.

she's been working hard on carry out her interpretation of the referendum result

Matthew.
27-03-2019, 06:50 PM
No he will not take the job.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/adf8a4c88fc258d00288b72b7f6f043e/tenor.gif?itemid=8335304

Matthew.
27-03-2019, 06:50 PM
I'd say Gove most likely

I forgot about him

He’s also pretty sleekit imo

Kazanne
27-03-2019, 06:57 PM
Exactly as I see it.
An awful job for anyone to take on.
She has worked hard at it, at least she makes an effort to carry out the referendum, unlike many others.


I wholeheartedly agree with this smudgie,who would really want her job ? I feel sorry for her as anything she puts on the table the MPs block it and simply because THEY want to remain and don't care that the majority of the public want to leave, they should honour that,no one else would have kept trying like her, bet she can't wait to get out of it.

Twosugars
27-03-2019, 07:00 PM
https://media1.tenor.com/images/adf8a4c88fc258d00288b72b7f6f043e/tenor.gif?itemid=8335304
:laugh:

arista
28-03-2019, 01:14 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/2422/production/_106205290_mir28.jpg

Now no backing from the DUP
this Leadership Election may not happen yet
unless she gets her treaty through
in a new way?


April the 12th Friday is new deadline.
When The UK must leave at 11PM

arista
28-03-2019, 04:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1111297412331638787/2MsIO8YD?format=jpg&name=600x314

The public are not convinced by Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd, Michael Gove or Sajid Javid as potential successors


SkyNewsHD Data

user104658
28-03-2019, 04:37 PM
Honestly can you imagine it being Gove :umm2:.

The UK is already a global laughing stock because of Brexit, reputation in the gutter, piss weak negotiating position, and then we're like "Oh BTW here's our new leader"

http://i63.tinypic.com/fkurec.jpg

arista
28-03-2019, 04:46 PM
How about a Muslim PM

TS?

Twosugars
28-03-2019, 05:35 PM
That contest will be a barrell of laughs
Looking forward already

user104658
28-03-2019, 05:36 PM
How about a Muslim PM

TS?

It wouldn't bother me any more than a Christian PM bothers me, so long as their beliefs didn't impact on their leadership; but being entirely honest I prefer political leaders to be completely non-religious because...

:umm2:

...I find religious mindsets to be completely devoid of logic so I would be frequently concerned about their decision making in other areas.

arista
28-03-2019, 06:06 PM
That contest will be a barrell of laughs
Looking forward already


Thats The Spirit
Young Sir

joeysteele
28-03-2019, 06:17 PM
Good riddance to her.
For me she shouldn't be an MP never mind PM.

She's made bad judgement after bad judgement and really was never up to the job.

She never had to do it, or stay doing so.
She could have gone anytime and should have after she threw away, after truly disastrous judgement, holding an election where her overall majority was lost.

I do guess the Conservative Party will choose some hardliner again to lead it.

However, I would like to see them choose someone who may improve the party's image, and bring a more caring attitude to the weakest, most vulnerable, sick and disabled.

I'd like to see a leader from the not really expected possible camp, such as Matt Hancock or Rory Stewart.
I think they are two of the finer current Cabinet Ministers.

We often get told,better the devil you know, or be careful what you wish for as to change.
For me, seeing this PM Theresa May gone as PM and likely out of Cabinet too.
Is what I've hoped for since her being appointed Home Secretary in 2010.
Where again she was a disaster all through.

I repeat, for me anyway, good riddance at last to this hopeless Prime Minister.

The Slim Reaper
28-03-2019, 06:19 PM
Good riddance to her.
For me she shouldn't be an MP never mind PM.

She's made bad judgement after bad judgement and really was never up to the job.

She never had to do it, or stay doing so.
She could have gone anytime and should have after she threw away, after truly disastrous judgement, holding an election where her overall majority was lost.

I do guess the Conservative Party will choose some hardliner again to lead it.

However, I would like to see them choose someone who may improve the party's image, and bring a more caring attitude to the weakest, most vulnerable, sick and disabled.

I'd like to see a leader from the not really expected possible camp, such as Matt Hancock or Rory Stewart.
I think they are two of the finer current Cabinet Ministers.

We often get told,better the devil you know, or be careful what you wish for as to change.
For me, seeing this PM Theresa May gone as PM and likely out of Cabinet too.
Is what I've hoped for since her being appointed Home Secretary in 2010.
Where again she was a disaster all through.

I repeat, for me anyway, good riddance at last to this hopeless Prime Minister.

This guy?

_ynpIUTRftM

You're asking for a unicorn with tory wishlist, Joey.

Vicky.
28-03-2019, 06:45 PM
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

arista
28-03-2019, 07:06 PM
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user104658
28-03-2019, 07:16 PM
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

She knew though Vicky, they all knew, the only reason she got the job is because everyone else was avoiding it like the plague because it would only ever go one way. In full knowledge of that she decided she wanted a shot at it anyway. She didn't have to.

Beso
28-03-2019, 07:28 PM
I'm not smug at all.

Beso
28-03-2019, 07:31 PM
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You ****ing sexy legend

Jack_
28-03-2019, 07:35 PM
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

I think she has to harbour a lot of the responsibility for the deadlock we’ve reached to be fair.

She called an election that she promised she never would, in a disgraceful and deliberate attempt to wipe the opposition off the electoral map for a generation and effectively set up a quasi one-party state. This, whilst pretending it was to “get a bigger mandate to deliver on Brexit”, rather ironically squandered the existing parliamentary mandate she already had, and that’s why we’re in this position.

Vicky.
28-03-2019, 07:50 PM
She knew though Vicky, they all knew, the only reason she got the job is because everyone else was avoiding it like the plague because it would only ever go one way. In full knowledge of that she decided she wanted a shot at it anyway. She didn't have to.

Yeah I know that, still feel sorry for her though. Even after the election I felt sorry for her, despite KNOWING she only did it thinking she would wipe the floor with Labour. So really, I should have been laughing at the arrogant twat who did the totasl wrong thing :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo
28-03-2019, 08:04 PM
If ever it was a vote for your favourite fungal infection

this is it

bots
28-03-2019, 08:51 PM
If ever it was a vote for your favourite fungal infection

this is it

its amusing that all the potential candidates above are still more popular with the British public than Mr Corbyn :laugh:

Twosugars
28-03-2019, 10:25 PM
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.
I don't feel sorry for her at all.

1/though a remainer she sat out the ref campaign, unwilling to stand up for her views
2/instead of making brexit cross-party issue she bowed to a group of tory hardliners in setting out her red lines on which she based her negotations
and now she's surprised parliament doesnt' support her deal and
3/called art 50 too early
4/should have allowed parliament to form consensus before negotiations not after
5/stupid elections
6/throughout she always put party politics before the country while claiming otherwise
7/no skillset for the job so cleary lack in judgement; inflexible, unimaginative, unable to empathize,
8/landed us in this mess

Vicky.
29-03-2019, 09:27 AM
Yes, the triggering article 50 with no plan was as ****ing stupid as calling the referendum with no plan for if the vote was leave. Cameron did this out of arrogance I think, thinking he KNEW the result would be stay as thats what he wanted so why make continguency plans..and I think May did it more out of pressure from leavers about 'do something!' trying to rush along the process.

Honestly, the only thing I think CAN be done now is to revoke article 50 until a later stage, when everythings worked out. This does not mean we have to stay, before leavers start kicking off. Just means that..well..we don't crash out totally unprepared. Which would be disastrous really.

GoldHeart
29-03-2019, 09:46 AM
I keep saying it but I cant help it really..I feel so sorry for May. The job was basically taking the fall for the ****show that is Brexit. I mean, she wanted to remain too so shes in a really difficult position. Everyone is blaming her when CAMERON is the one to blame. Mind I do think shes a weak PM. She had to do this, so she could be blamed when it all goes wrong, and then the new leader can say they didn't think ti was right etc. and then..it will be forgotten and May will go down as one of the worst PMs ever.

Actually when Cameron was PM he DID get the Blame ,and I think many laughed when he stood down as he caused this mess .

May is now making a mess of things so of course she's getting blamed, and when she was home secretary she made bad choices. Everything with Brexit is a joke and I'm bored of hearing about it on the news , and nobody seems to have a Clue what they're doing :facepalm: .

Twosugars
29-03-2019, 03:35 PM
As per leadership campaign tradition, Tories start knifing each other in the back.

The Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi has said she is fearful of the idea of Michael Gove becoming prime minister, saying she and other senior members of the party are concerned about his views on British Muslims.

That should do the trick and sink Gove.

arista
31-03-2019, 03:44 AM
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bots
31-03-2019, 07:25 AM
As per leadership campaign tradition, Tories start knifing each other in the back.



That should do the trick and sink Gove.

you are viewing that from a labour supporters perspective, not the demographic that will be choosing a new leader of the tory party

joeysteele
31-03-2019, 08:05 AM
you are viewing that from a labour supporters perspective, not the demographic that will be choosing a new leader of the tory party

Well Gove certainly did so to Boris Johnson last time.

However all leadership elections have to involve some unpleasant aspects between candidates.
It can't be helped.
Sadly it's part of the nastier side of politics, which is just unfortunately getting nastier.

I liked neither left last time in the Conservative leadership but that Andrea Leadsom made a shocking play against Theresa May, as to Theresa May not being a Mother.

Spiteful woman.

Although possibly one of the most bizarre contests was when Ed Miliband chose to run against his Brother David.

I still would hope as I don't dislike the Conservative Party, they avoid a main frontrunner.

I wish some in the Party would encourage Rory Stewart for instance to stand.
Corbyn isn't likely to be there after this next election in another.

So in my own view.
With someone like Rory Stewart and a new Labour leader, it may be possible to take the ice chill and unnecessary nastiness out of politics.

arista
31-03-2019, 08:11 AM
"With someone like Rory Stewart"

Yes he is a Great MP
it would be good if he became the new leader.

user104658
31-03-2019, 08:19 AM
After the shameful, embarrassing mess of the last few years I think we all (and the country as an entity on the world stage) need for ALL of the current big names and faces to **** off to the back and shut their mouthes, and for new, respectable people to come to the front of politics. Realistically - do people in Britain have much respect left for the "big name" politicians after all of this? In either Conservative or Labour? It's been such a joke that it seems impossible for Boris or Gove or Smogg OR Corbyn etc. to do anything other than continue the pantomime.

The world is watching and we need to break the whole system down and bring some sensible, rational adults to the front line of politics if we ever want to be taken seriously again.

bots
31-03-2019, 08:33 AM
After the shameful, embarrassing mess of the last few years I think we all (and the country as an entity on the world stage) need for ALL of the current big names and faces to **** off to the back and shut their mouthes, and for new, respectable people to come to the front of politics. Realistically - do people in Britain have much respect left for the "big name" politicians after all of this? In either Conservative or Labour? It's been such a joke that it seems impossible for Boris or Gove or Smogg OR Corbyn etc. to do anything other than continue the pantomime.

The world is watching and we need to break the whole system down and bring some sensible, rational adults to the front line of politics if we ever want to be taken seriously again.

I don't disagree with you TS, the current bunch of mp's are disgraceful representatives of the people. There may be the odd good one in there but they are few. We need a sea change in politics where our mp's are actually there to represent ALL of us, not just their own self interest and narrow agenda. The problem is that people are just so fed up now, that we are extremely vulnerable to radicals getting in if another election were held at this point. Our democracy and future is at breaking point

Twosugars
31-03-2019, 11:43 AM
"With someone like Rory Stewart"

Yes he is a Great MP
it would be good if he became the new leader.

I like him too.
But I'm afraid he may be too sensible for tories.

arista
01-04-2019, 09:57 PM
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