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Beso
04-06-2019, 02:46 PM
As true as the biggest inauguration crowd

Hook me up on fb....you will see the truth..if you ain't willing to do that then please shut up and stop talking about something you know nothing about.

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 02:47 PM
Arista?
Trump just said now "NHS on the table in any trade negotiations "

What was it you said earlier?

Then I guess it's lucky the current Health Sec and possible future PM has said (https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/donald-trump-says-nhs-must-16377894)"Dear Mr President. The NHS isn't on the table in trade talks - and never will be. Not on my watch."

GiRTh
04-06-2019, 02:47 PM
He denied he said it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48491602

What a stupid thing to lie about. Agree with Dezzy it shows he just cant stop lying.

BTW he's told over 10000 since taking office. :shrug:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?utm_term=.8c7416109b0d

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 02:50 PM
Hook me up on fb....you will see the truth..if you ain't willing to do that then please shut up and stop talking about something you know nothing about.

I go by reputable news outlets not your appeasement and apology of the orange moron.

And I'm not going to shut up so go bully someone else

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 02:51 PM
Then I guess it's lucky the current Health Sec and possible future PM has said (https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/donald-trump-says-nhs-must-16377894)"Dear Mr President. The NHS isn't on the table in trade talks - and never will be. Not on my watch."

As if they will have a choice after Brexit. You brexiters and your cuckoo land :laugh:

Beso
04-06-2019, 02:55 PM
I go by reputable news outlets not your appeasement and apology of the orange moron.

And I'm not going to shut up so go bully someone else

An invite to a fb friendship equates to bullying....dare I say that's a bit silly.

Tom4784
04-06-2019, 02:55 PM
I don't know about pathological, but I don't doubt he tells the odd pork pie from time to time. Show me a politician that doesn't.

You'd call over 8,000 lies and falsehoods in two years 'the off pork pie' from time to time?

Why can't you criticise him when he's done wrong?

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 02:56 PM
As if they will have a choice after Brexit. You brexiters and your cuckoo land :laugh:

Why will they not have a choice?

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 02:58 PM
Why will they not have a choice?

Bc they wont have a leg to stand on.
What will they threaten with? We don't want you deal? :laugh:

Tom4784
04-06-2019, 02:58 PM
If Nigel Farage takes any more power, the NHS will be at risk. He famously wants the US insurance model for the UK.

arista
04-06-2019, 03:00 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty Protesters

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 03:01 PM
Arista still waiting for your reaction to trump saying NHS on the table in trade negotiations

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 03:01 PM
What will they threaten with? We don't want you deal? :laugh:

What do these sentence fragments even mean?

Why would they need to "threaten" anyone? I doubt the NHS would be a make-or-break thing for any and all deals. Trump wouldn't burn bridges with the UK over that one point.

Would you expect him to say "we would have made trade deals with the UK, but without the NHS being on the table, we don't want your deal" ?

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 03:03 PM
What do these sentence fragments even mean?

Why would they need to "threaten" anyone? I doubt the NHS would be a make-or-break thing for any and all deals. Trump wouldn't burn bridges with the UK over that one point.

Would you expect him to say "we would have made trade deals with the UK, but without the NHS being on the table, we don't want your deal" ?

Autocorrect is playing up.


Who needs the deal more?
So naive...

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 03:03 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty Protesters

What makes those grubby NEETs think they have the right to lay hands on and yell in the face of a borderline elderly man for having a different opinion?

Elliot
04-06-2019, 03:03 PM
Milkshakes, the saviour of 2019

Tom4784
04-06-2019, 03:04 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty Protesters

There's a vital lack of context here. Where is the footage leading up to this? What caused this escalation? Until context is provided then it's just the Right Wing doing their usual tricks of misrepresenting the facts to better suit their agenda.

After similar 'incidents' in the past, it's most likely that this man provoked the crowd to film their reaction so they can do the whole 'look how nasty this crowd is to this sweet innocent man!' thing that the right do endlessly.

bots
04-06-2019, 03:10 PM
there was a thread recently about new emotes .... and its blindingly obvious what it should be ....

https://media1.giphy.com/media/1oF1M1wHeb8s2p7NuU/giphy.gif

Alf
04-06-2019, 03:12 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty ProtestersThey are in Trafalgar Square. It might of just been a pigeon.

arista
04-06-2019, 03:13 PM
Arista still waiting for your reaction to trump saying NHS on the table in trade negotiations

Like our Health Secretary has said
its not for sale.


Trump saying it is included
means nothing.
The Out Going PM
then ends the press brief.


Who will Win the Next Election
matters more?

arista
04-06-2019, 03:15 PM
They are in Trafalgar Square. It might of just been a pigeon.


No he chucks it back
the Police Lady
was out numbered.


Typical protesters getting Evil
no need,

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 03:17 PM
There's a vital lack of context here. Where is the footage leading up to this? What caused this escalation? Until context is provided then it's just the Right Wing doing their usual tricks of misrepresenting the facts to better suit their agenda.


He looked more confused than anything. The police weren't trying to remove him, so he hadn't been violent himself.

I think his only "crime" was not hating Trump.

arista
04-06-2019, 03:19 PM
There's a vital lack of context here. Where is the footage leading up to this? What caused this escalation? Until context is provided then it's just the Right Wing doing their usual tricks of misrepresenting the facts to better suit their agenda.

After similar 'incidents' in the past, it's most likely that this man provoked the crowd to film their reaction so they can do the whole 'look how nasty this crowd is to this sweet innocent man!' thing that the right do endlessly.

Context
he supports Trump

They want Trump gone


It was on LBC Live

Kazanne
04-06-2019, 03:26 PM
Who the hell is Hancock? :laugh:
And what does he know
Time will tell if it is rubbish.

I will be expecting a full retraction if you get it wrong Arista :hee:

Oh dear,:laugh:Matt Hancock is the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care. How come you did not know that :shrug:

arista
04-06-2019, 03:30 PM
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Beso
04-06-2019, 03:41 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty Protesters

Very very sad...most were not like this lot.

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 03:42 PM
Oh dear,:laugh:Matt Hancock is the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care. How come you did not know that :shrug:

Yeah a real mover and shaker.

The Chinese should hire him. He would tell trump what's what :joker:

arista
04-06-2019, 03:43 PM
Very very sad...most were not like this lot.



Sure
but well done LBC
for showing us the Frenzy
of a group of Protesters

Twosugars
04-06-2019, 03:45 PM
Like our Health Secretary has said
its not for sale.


Trump saying it is included
means nothing.
The Out Going PM
then ends the press brief.


Who will Win the Next Election
matters more?

Ok trump saying something means nothing. Ok Arista

arista
04-06-2019, 03:48 PM
Ok trump saying something means nothing. Ok Arista


Yes he has no updates.


On our NHS
he is wrong


Who wins the next General Election
matters more

arista
04-06-2019, 03:52 PM
Nigel Farage arrives for talks with the USA President.

arista
04-06-2019, 03:58 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/04/11/14292156-7102067-A_graphic_details_the_various_components_of_The_Be ast_which_is_t-m-171_1559645887530.jpg

Crimson Dynamo
04-06-2019, 03:59 PM
Very very sad...most were not like this lot.

look at the bigotry and hate in that awful extreme left woman's face, truly chilling that she could be employed?

Crimson Dynamo
04-06-2019, 04:00 PM
Nigel Farage arrives for talks with the USA President.

Donald meeting the actual political forces of the UK

:clap1:

Alf
04-06-2019, 04:01 PM
1135910079889399808

Nasty ProtestersWas that angry lady the model for the Trump blimp?

arista
04-06-2019, 04:04 PM
Donald meeting the actual political forces of the UK

:clap1:


Yes
PM May did not want this
but its bugger all to do with her.


He is Legit
with the Most MEP's infact 29 MEP's
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8OrFfSX4AA3WtI.jpg

Beso
04-06-2019, 04:39 PM
look at the bigotry and hate in that awful extreme left woman's face, truly chilling that she could be employed?

On the flip side..there was a young maga hat donning you man interviewed by at least 4 stations today...I got talking to him and our oliver is not the only gay trump supporter I know now.....sorry oliver for bringing your name up, but today was an eye opener for me.

arista
04-06-2019, 05:14 PM
https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/sei_21025456.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C359&ssl=1

[Pub rebrands as The Trump Arms ahead of US president’s UK visit]

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/07/11/pub-rebrands-trump-arms-ahead-us-presidents-uk-visit-7705370/?ito=cbshare

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arista
04-06-2019, 05:20 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/04/15/14357362-7102067-image-a-272_1559658522832.jpg

Socialist Worker Gang

chuff me dizzy
04-06-2019, 05:52 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/04/15/14357362-7102067-image-a-272_1559658522832.jpg

Socialist Worker Gang

I bet none of them have worked a day in their pitiful lives

chuff me dizzy
04-06-2019, 05:52 PM
Donald meeting the actual political forces of the UK

:clap1:

Thats why he refused to talk with Commie Corbyn

joeysteele
04-06-2019, 05:56 PM
Why should the NHS need to be in any trade deals anyway
Because it's clear from the US representative at the weekend and from this bigot today that the US will insist the NHS is part of any trading deal.

People blinded by Trump, Farage and a small number of the governing party.
Can bury their heads in the sand all they like but no use crying once it's gone, in the future.
Then we end up with the USA dictating what we can and can't have and do now.

Jason.
04-06-2019, 06:00 PM
Why does it always bloody rain when he comes here?

joeysteele
04-06-2019, 06:05 PM
The assumption Trump wants to interfere with the NHS is lies and Corbyn should know this but will use it ,just watch this space.

Oh for goodness sake put the news on.
He said himself with your heroine May at his side.
All has to be on the table re trade deal with the USA.
Including the NHS.

I believe Matt Hancock when he says he'd never allow it.
He isn't going to be the next PM however.

It's Trump and the US guy at the weekend who are saying the NHS needs to be included in trade deals with the US.
No one else.
No one but Farage or Trump supporters want it included.

Hardly lies, when Trump said it himself.
Or to you can he do no wrong.

arista
04-06-2019, 06:07 PM
1135909336310460419

arista
04-06-2019, 06:08 PM
I bet none of them have worked a day in their pitiful lives


Nice to have you back with us Chuff.

Oliver_W
04-06-2019, 06:26 PM
.I got talking to him and our oliver is not the only gay trump supporter I know now....

Did you get his number? Is he hot? Does he have a car?

sorry oliver for bringing your name up, but today was an eye opener for me.
How so?

Beso
04-06-2019, 06:38 PM
Did you get his number? Is he hot? Does he have a car?


How so?




The anti trump fans looked all the same, or at least I could lump them into 2 groups... middle class snobs....and I love the planet cause I don't wash types...there was a lot of feminists..Lots of this pussy bites back tshirts...


My favourite was when I was walking over westminster bridge....a young girl not in her teens yet, probably 7ish...she had a placard that she had wrote herself...it just said, humpty trumpty...I thought of tibb and giggled the rest of the way over the bridge...



But the trump supporters, I was amazed at thier diversity....I've got a photo on my phone of the bloke, with me and a Scottish lass he was with..same hat .files to big to use it as my avi though....I did ask him if his name was oliver though.

Beso
04-06-2019, 06:40 PM
Ps....who's to say trump isn't going to make the nhs better....we don't know nothing yet about the ins and outs of that.

arista
04-06-2019, 06:44 PM
Ps....who's to say trump isn't going to make the nhs better....we don't know nothing yet about the ins and outs of that.


No its not for sale.

1135909336310460419

Beso
04-06-2019, 07:16 PM
No its not for sale.

1135909336310460419

His hands too busy on his cock to wear a watch.:nono:

Kazanne
04-06-2019, 07:53 PM
I listened to what he said today, and as ever the scaremongers are deliberately misinterpreting what he said. Very tedious.

bots
04-06-2019, 08:04 PM
i thought his speech was a good one and well rehearsed. I don't think he has an issue with the UK, I think his feelings are quite genuine with regard to the UK.

Still don't think he is a good president though, and hope his time in that office is limited.

joeysteele
04-06-2019, 08:12 PM
I listened to what he said today, and as ever the scaremongers are deliberately misinterpreting what he said. Very tedious.

How do you misinterpret him saying the NHS would be on the table on a trade deal with the UK.
I don't happen to scaremonger.

That's exactly what he said.
The NHS would be on the table and more.

What is tedious is people thinking the NHS is really safe with the likes of Farage and Trump.

Good luck to you if you believe that is so.
For goodness sake, even the health secretary has responded strongly to Trumps statement.

Scaremongering you call it.
I call it facts, it's what your Trump said, no one else.

Crimson Dynamo
04-06-2019, 08:15 PM
Labour have sold more of the NHS than anyone..

joeysteele
04-06-2019, 09:06 PM
Now he's attempting to row back.

Honestly you can't trust what he says.

Sometimes I wonder if he really knows what he means.
To say one thing and then backtrack in such a short time, is really concerning.

However his latter views are the right ones and I'd agree I do not see how the NHS is something to be on the table.

Although, he could be saying the same thing he said earlier in a few days.
What a disaster of a President.

chuff me dizzy
05-06-2019, 09:30 AM
I listened to what he said today, and as ever the scaremongers are deliberately misinterpreting what he said. Very tedious.

People see and hear what they want to see and hear

Livia
05-06-2019, 09:33 AM
I don't think in that moment he knew what he was talking about, I think he said "everything's on the table" because he wasn't immediately sure about the NHS.

I think even this government know there is no way people would accept the US tinkering with our NHS.

chuff me dizzy
05-06-2019, 09:51 AM
Thugs whipped into a frenzy by Commie Corbyn do this to an old man


https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuofficial/videos/588989354942461/

Beso
05-06-2019, 09:54 AM
Thugs whipped into a frenzy by Commie Corbyn do this to an old man


https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuofficial/videos/588989354942461/



Sad and extreme...who is shouting "you're not welcome here"


Cause that sounded a bit fascisty.

chuff me dizzy
05-06-2019, 10:03 AM
Sad and extreme...who is shouting "you're not welcome here"


Cause that sounded a bit fascisty.

Very extreme ,but this is how they work the lowlifes !!

arista
05-06-2019, 02:30 PM
Trump has now Boarded his Plane in Portsmouth
for his Irish visit.

Cherie
05-06-2019, 02:31 PM
Trump has now Boarded his Plane in Portsmouth
for his Irish visit.

wonder how he is going to address the border issue given he is pro Brexit

arista
05-06-2019, 02:33 PM
wonder how he is going to address the border issue given he is pro Brexit


He is there to talk of USA - Irish deals
not Brexit - although he may give a dig

arista
05-06-2019, 02:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8O4UqAWwAIquEp.png

Back when The China Leader
visited London
when he was invited PM David Cameron

chuff me dizzy
05-06-2019, 05:16 PM
I listened to what he said today, and as ever the scaremongers are deliberately misinterpreting what he said. Very tedious.

Its suits some peoples agenda

chuff me dizzy
05-06-2019, 05:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8O4UqAWwAIquEp.png

Back when The China Leader
visited London
when he was invited PM David Cameron

And here he is with another close friend

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/18/jeremy-corbyns-bloody-sunday-stance-finally-bringing-ira-links/

Vicky.
05-06-2019, 05:20 PM
https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SEI_71491639.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=964%2C642&ssl=1
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/03/messages-cut-grass-donald-trump-see-lands-uk-state-visit-9776684/?ito=social&fbclid=IwAR3UO_JKTeGQXk6NtnieB4HFOVTvMkAWiY0aKSrKb N7p2-vHjRNsOuOFk9M

Twosugars
05-06-2019, 05:21 PM
Oh for goodness sake put the news on.
He said himself with your heroine May at his side.
All has to be on the table re trade deal with the USA.
Including the NHS.

I believe Matt Hancock when he says he'd never allow it.
He isn't going to be the next PM however.

It's Trump and the US guy at the weekend who are saying the NHS needs to be included in trade deals with the US.
No one else.
No one but Farage or Trump supporters want it included.

Hardly lies, when Trump said it himself.
Or to you can he do no wrong.

Well said Joey

Liam-
05-06-2019, 05:22 PM
https://i1.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/SEI_71491639.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=964%2C642&ssl=1
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/03/messages-cut-grass-donald-trump-see-lands-uk-state-visit-9776684/?ito=social&fbclid=IwAR3UO_JKTeGQXk6NtnieB4HFOVTvMkAWiY0aKSrKb N7p2-vHjRNsOuOFk9M

Can’t beat a British protest

Twosugars
05-06-2019, 05:28 PM
good old London, love this city

https://i.imgur.com/qlZ704Ol.jpg

.

Kazanne
05-06-2019, 06:45 PM
I don't think in that moment he knew what he was talking about, I think he said "everything's on the table" because he wasn't immediately sure about the NHS.

I think even this government know there is no way people would accept the US tinkering with our NHS.

Exactly Livia,i thought he hasn't got a clue just how important or massive the NHS is and he must have had so much on his mind,lol, glad someone put him right to which he later took his words back.

Alf
05-06-2019, 06:53 PM
So sad that Donnie can't stay. I'm gonna miss him, it's been a fabulous few days having him here.

Safe journey home to POTUS, FLOTUS and the Trump family, do come back soon.

Bugsy Bear
05-06-2019, 07:03 PM
Love President Trump! always welcome in Britain!

arista
06-06-2019, 07:01 AM
Trump doing well in Ireland yesterday
they love all the Jobs
his Golf Course brought the whole community.

Oliver_W
06-06-2019, 07:15 AM
I hope the protesters will show some respect today.

Cherie
06-06-2019, 08:05 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-compares-irish-border-to-wall-between-us-and-mexico-2019-06-05?link=MW_latest_news

Probably you’ll ask me about Brexit because I just left some very good people who are very involved with Brexit, as you know,” Trump said in the leaders’ meeting. “And I think it will all work out very well, and also for you with your wall, your border.”

:skull:

bots
06-06-2019, 08:07 AM
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-compares-irish-border-to-wall-between-us-and-mexico-2019-06-05?link=MW_latest_news

Probably you’ll ask me about Brexit because I just left some very good people who are very involved with Brexit, as you know,” Trump said in the leaders’ meeting. “And I think it will all work out very well, and also for you with your wall, your border.”

:skull:

Do you think Trump will get Mexico to pay for an irish wall too? maybe even a scottish one? :amazed:

Cherie
06-06-2019, 08:08 AM
Do you think Trump will get Mexico to pay for an irish wall too? maybe even a scottish one? :amazed:

:joker: imagine comparing it to Mexico when people travel over the border going each way to get to work etc :facepalm:

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 08:27 AM
Corbyn showed his true colours whilst the leader of one of our greatest allies paid a visit ,invited by the Queen ,he showed he could never ever lead this country ...Hes not a leader he's a terrorist supporting protestor, nothing more, nothing less and a protestor will never make a PM

arista
06-06-2019, 09:01 AM
Trump
is now in France for D-Day


Jeremy Corbyn is also there
be good if they bump into each other.

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 09:04 AM
Corbyn showed his true colours whilst the leader of one of our greatest allies paid a visit ,invited by the Queen ,he showed he could never ever lead this country ...Hes not a leader he's a terrorist supporting protestor, nothing more, nothing less and a protestor will never make a PM

I think even the most ardent labour supporter now accepts this

the plot to get rid of him must be well under way

arista
06-06-2019, 02:25 PM
1136630062692884480

SkyNews Australia
gets the truth of Trumps UK Visit.

Beso
06-06-2019, 02:30 PM
Trump
is now in France for D-Day


Jeremy Corbyn is also there
be good if they bump into each other.

Laying a wreath for ze Germans no doubt.

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 02:39 PM
I've still yet to see any footage of the events leading up to the crowd screaming Nazi Scum at that man, strange, that.

The right aren't above using elderly plants to try to undermine a protest and without the context of showing us the events leading up to these confrontations then it's meaningless.

Anyone can rile up a crowd and then cut the footage to make themselves look like the victim. If it's as the right says then there should be footage out there that shows how these confrontations begin but there never is. How strange, you'd think they would include such footage as it would put paid to doubts of the video's validity but still, we only ever get edited clips. How very odd...

Crimson Dynamo
06-06-2019, 02:50 PM
I've still yet to see any footage of the events leading up to the crowd screaming Nazi Scum at that man, strange, that.

The right aren't above using elderly plants to try to undermine a protest and without the context of showing us the events leading up to these confrontations then it's meaningless.

Anyone can rile up a crowd and then cut the footage to make themselves look like the victim. If it's as the right says then there should be footage out there that shows how these confrontations begin but there never is. How strange, you'd think they would include such footage as it would put paid to doubts of the video's validity but still, we only ever get edited clips. How very odd...

hang on you were happy to listen to a single hearsay article in the failing independent yesterday to attack Trump about a personal family matter and now today you want "extra" video evidence ?

The nasty vile lady in question quit her job in disgrace - i take it that is now sufficient for you?

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 02:55 PM
hang on you were happy to listen to a single hearsay article in the failing independent yesterday to attack Trump about a personal family matter and now today you want "extra" video evidence ?

The nasty vile lady in question quit her job in disgrace - i take it that is now sufficient for you?

And this is all photoshot too :shrug: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10220173180339665&set=a.10204053256911654&type=3&theater

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 03:06 PM
hang on you were happy to listen to a single hearsay article in the failing independent yesterday to attack Trump about a personal family matter and now today you want "extra" video evidence ?

The nasty vile lady in question quit her job in disgrace - i take it that is now sufficient for you?

Let me explain the obvious differences between them to you.

Firstly, you don't know how many articles I read, I tend to check stories that I read from multiple angles just to make sure it's correct. Facts are important to me and the facts of that story is that the government is cutting legal aid and education efforts to migrant children, something they are entitled to receiving due to the Flores Agreement.

As for the 'family matter' that's just my opinion and I liked the idea of Melania's quiet rebellions, not that they were factual. Judging from the facts we do know (Melania didn't move into the White House quite a while after Trump's inauguration) as well as actual footage of Melania visibly being displeased with Trump. I made my own opinion. I didn't take the article as gospel, I made up my own mind considering the facts I knew.

Of course I want footage because we lack context as to how the incident started and the right keep making a point of creating these videos without showing off a vital part of the story that would vindicate them of any kind of claims of spin or baiting which is how these incidents begin. Context is important, as proven by me providing you with the context that unravels your argument that I am somehow being hypocritical despite the contexts of your examples being different to this story.

Context is a wonderful thing, embrace it and you can't go wrong.

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 03:09 PM
And this is all photoshot too :shrug: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10220173180339665&set=a.10204053256911654&type=3&theater

But where's the context? Violence is never the answer but we don't know what was said there. Chances are they are both equally arseholes.

It's important to cast a discerning eye over facebook posts. It's so easy to spread misinformation and people will believe and share it. That's how the anti-vaxxer **** became so prominent after all.

Alf
06-06-2019, 03:12 PM
Anti-facists used to fight and die taking them on. Today people who call themselves anti-facist throw milkshake at people and push old people to the ground.

Kazanne
06-06-2019, 03:18 PM
hang on you were happy to listen to a single hearsay article in the failing independent yesterday to attack Trump about a personal family matter and now today you want "extra" video evidence ?

The nasty vile lady in question quit her job in disgrace - i take it that is now sufficient for you?

Yes it was on TV this morning mouth like a sewer and didn't she work in the health service,disgraceful way to behave and they moan about him :laugh:

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 03:21 PM
Yes it was on TV this morning mouth like a sewer and didn't she work in the health service,disgraceful way to behave and they moan about him :laugh:

They've also named the thug who dragged the very old man about, hope they both get charged with GBH, lowlifes !!

Twosugars
06-06-2019, 03:40 PM
Its disgraceful this 5 times draft dodger is taking part in military commemorations

He is somebody who described his personal struggle to avoid STDs in the 80's Manhattan as his Vietnam

What a turd

Kazanne
06-06-2019, 03:42 PM
They've also named the thug who dragged the very old man about, hope they both get charged with GBH, lowlifes !!

I saw it Chuff,i don't know how anyone could condone that, I'm glad I am not that filled with hate.

Alf
06-06-2019, 03:43 PM
Its disgraceful this 5 times draft dodger is taking part in military commemorations

He is somebody who described his personal struggle to avoid STDs in the 80's Manhattan as his Vietnam

What a turdIt's not the day for this nonsense.

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 03:56 PM
I saw it Chuff,i don't know how anyone could condone that, I'm glad I am not that filled with hate.

Me too

Twosugars
06-06-2019, 04:03 PM
Not to mention his appalling treatment of John McCain, a war hero, during his life and after death
They had to hide that ship to protect his fragile ego. Vile orange snowflake

arista
06-06-2019, 04:55 PM
I've still yet to see any footage of the events leading up to the crowd screaming Nazi Scum at that man, strange, that.

The right aren't above using elderly plants to try to undermine a protest and without the context of showing us the events leading up to these confrontations then it's meaningless.

Anyone can rile up a crowd and then cut the footage to make themselves look like the victim. If it's as the right says then there should be footage out there that shows how these confrontations begin but there never is. How strange, you'd think they would include such footage as it would put paid to doubts of the video's validity but still, we only ever get edited clips. How very odd...

1135910079889399808

That Horrible women shouting NAZI SCUM

arista
06-06-2019, 05:21 PM
1136677317156253697

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 05:24 PM
1135910079889399808

That Horrible women shouting NAZI SCUM

Whoops !! clear for all to see !!

chuff me dizzy
06-06-2019, 05:25 PM
1136677317156253697

Im proud to have been one of the people who signed it

bots
06-06-2019, 07:31 PM
people really need to understand what a nazi is

Tom4784
06-06-2019, 09:25 PM
Whoops !! clear for all to see !!

1135910079889399808

That Horrible women shouting NAZI SCUM

Thank you for posting the same video as before that still provides no context of how that situation became that escalated. All the right wingers on Twitter are holding onto this video like a raft in a shipwreck yet where is the footage of how this began? As I said before, such footage if it's as the right wingers make it out to be would eliminate all suspicion that he was a plant there to rile up the crowd and film the reaction for the purpose of allowing right wingers to clutch their pearls in faux outrage. The fact that no such footage has arisen should be regarded as suspicious by everyone regardless of your beliefs.

If anything negative gets brought up about Trump, it's automatically fake news but this story has gaps yet no one who would normally cry fake news is doing so. I guess the whole fake news angle is only for silencing detractors of Trump as well as trying to shut down the left. Shocking!

Marsh.
06-06-2019, 09:29 PM
Im proud to have been one of the people who signed it

Beggars belief.

Vicky.
07-06-2019, 07:21 AM
Thank you for posting the same video as before that still provides no context of how that situation became that escalated. All the right wingers on Twitter are holding onto this video like a raft in a shipwreck yet where is the footage of how this began? As I said before, such footage if it's as the right wingers make it out to be would eliminate all suspicion that he was a plant there to rile up the crowd and film the reaction for the purpose of allowing right wingers to clutch their pearls in faux outrage. The fact that no such footage has arisen should be regarded as suspicious by everyone regardless of your beliefs.

If anything negative gets brought up about Trump, it's automatically fake news but this story has gaps yet no one who would normally cry fake news is doing so. I guess the whole fake news angle is only for silencing detractors of Trump as well as trying to shut down the left. Shocking!

I have to say, I do find it odd that suddenly so many people would randomly chant nazi scum at someone. There must be context to this. Though, the behaviour is still quite shocking really..as is, yet again the mlkshake thing. The constant milkshake thing now, people just copying others, its pathetic. It was pathetic when it was first copied (the guy with Robinson, it seemed there was a reason for it rather than 'look how progressive I am, I can chuck milkshake at people, haha lolz') and its even more pathetic now, yet will continue because idiots will keep applauding these people for, well, being idiots.

Having said all of this, that crowd is fairly large, I find it hard to believe that none of the 'lefties' got footage of the start off to this either? People always have their phones out recording, and if he was like, basically working the crowd to get them worked up, surely one of the 'right on' lot would have shoved a phone in his face to film for viral likes later on if nothing else...

Dare I say, maybe the context makes both sides look like idiots, hence the edited version being shared and noone coming up with a longer one..

Twosugars
07-06-2019, 08:16 AM
Sadly people have become more polarized and quicker to anger on both sides

Beso
07-06-2019, 08:31 AM
There are loads of videos out there showing marchers walking past anyone in a red hat roaring nazi scum at them....faces twisted in hate and anger...loads.of videos...

Twosugars
07-06-2019, 08:41 AM
Trump would be pleased, he likes sowing divisions

Crimson Dynamo
07-06-2019, 08:43 AM
There are loads of videos out there showing marchers walking past anyone in a red hat roaring nazi scum at them....faces twisted in hate and anger...loads.of videos...

Its 2 things:

Mob mentality

A bigoted belief that you are right and that cant be challenged

Twosugars
07-06-2019, 08:45 AM
Its 2 things:

Mob mentality

A bigoted belief that you are right and that cant be challenged

Yup, trump election campaign rallies for example

arista
07-06-2019, 10:21 AM
Im proud to have been one of the people who signed it



Some Good News Chuff
the Nazi Shouting Evil Women


[A protester who was filmed by LBC screaming "Nazi scum" into the face of of a Donald Trump fan has resigned from her job in the NHS.]

Liam-
07-06-2019, 10:26 AM
Woman forced to resign from job helping people because she has an opinion, sounds quite like censorship to me pals

Tom4784
07-06-2019, 12:35 PM
I have to say, I do find it odd that suddenly so many people would randomly chant nazi scum at someone. There must be context to this. Though, the behaviour is still quite shocking really..as is, yet again the mlkshake thing. The constant milkshake thing now, people just copying others, its pathetic. It was pathetic when it was first copied (the guy with Robinson, it seemed there was a reason for it rather than 'look how progressive I am, I can chuck milkshake at people, haha lolz') and its even more pathetic now, yet will continue because idiots will keep applauding these people for, well, being idiots.

Having said all of this, that crowd is fairly large, I find it hard to believe that none of the 'lefties' got footage of the start off to this either? People always have their phones out recording, and if he was like, basically working the crowd to get them worked up, surely one of the 'right on' lot would have shoved a phone in his face to film for viral likes later on if nothing else...

Dare I say, maybe the context makes both sides look like idiots, hence the edited version being shared and noone coming up with a longer one..

Yeah, I'm not defending their actions but this is the second time in weeks where some poor little old elderly man has been accosted by the evil anti-trump/brexit people and there's similar holes in both stories. It doesn't add up and such footage of the beginning of the incident would clear up any gaps so where is it?

The crowd are ***** for getting drawn into the bait and reacting with such vitriol but the plant, if that's the case, is just as bad for riling up a crowd in order to use their reaction to try to debase what is otherwise a peaceful protest across the entirety of the UK. It's dishonest and a sadly common characteristic of the current right wing.

Tom4784
07-06-2019, 12:37 PM
Woman forced to resign from job helping people because she has an opinion, sounds quite like censorship to me pals

If the shoe was on the other foot and she was at a pro-brexit or pro-trump rally then the people who signed that petition would be championing her and would be calling such petitions, as you said, censorship.

Vicky.
07-06-2019, 12:37 PM
There has to be a longer version of the video showing a bit more. There is obviously more to it as no way would all those people just start randomly chanting that at him. But as I said, I suspect it shows both sides being idiots, so thats why neither side has produced the footage that simply has to exist in these days of everyone getting their phone out for every little thing :laugh:

reece(:
07-06-2019, 12:39 PM
Aren't the brexit mob all about defeating censorship? The backtrack.

Beso
07-06-2019, 01:06 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=467176387382164&id=373328903433580

arista
07-06-2019, 01:07 PM
Woman forced to resign from job helping people because she has an opinion, sounds quite like censorship to me pals



No Liam
as LBC radio Filmed it
she then went Worldwide on twitter
then on every news,
a American in the UK
liking the President is no way a Nazi Scum.
she went O.T.T.

Liam-
07-06-2019, 01:53 PM
No Liam
as LBC radio Filmed it
she then went Worldwide on twitter
then on every news,
a American in the UK
liking the President is no way a Nazi Scum.
she went O.T.T.

But what did she do wrong?
She didn’t break the law
She didn’t assault anyone
Yes she shouted at someone, but all she did was use her right to free speech to voice her opinion
The far right are all for that when it’s their speech that is free, but they’re not so keen on it when they’re the recipients are they?
Snowflakes can’t take a few mean words and suddenly this woman is forced to resign, hypocrisy at the highest level.
Anyone who signed that petition has no right to advocate for free speech and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

Livia
07-06-2019, 01:56 PM
Screaming in someone's face like a ****ing lunatic because he's wearing a hat with a message you don't approve of is not exercising your right to free speech.

Livia
07-06-2019, 01:58 PM
But what did she do wrong?
She didn’t break the law
She didn’t assault anyone
Yes she shouted at someone, but all she did was use her right to free speech to voice her opinion
The far right are all for that when it’s their speech that is free, but they’re not so keen on it when they’re the recipients are they?
Snowflakes can’t take a few mean words and suddenly this woman is forced to resign, hypocrisy at the highest level.
Anyone who signed that petition has no right to advocate for free speech and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

You always talk about the far Right but never the far Left. You know, all those good people carrying their images of Stalin....

Maybe it's time to start referring to them as Stalinists. Let's diminish the seriousness of what he did in the same way the Left are diminishing what Hitler did by referring to people as Nazis without having the first clue what that means.

arista
07-06-2019, 01:59 PM
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=467176387382164&id=373328903433580


Yes stupid women said He stops all immigration?
then no example.

Trump is fine with Green Card immigrants
that are Legal.

Alf
07-06-2019, 02:00 PM
But what did she do wrong?
She didn’t break the law
She didn’t assault anyone
Yes she shouted at someone, but all she did was use her right to free speech to voice her opinion
The far right are all for that when it’s their speech that is free, but they’re not so keen on it when they’re the recipients are they?
Snowflakes can’t take a few mean words and suddenly this woman is forced to resign, hypocrisy at the highest level.
Anyone who signed that petition has no right to advocate for free speech and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.What Danny Baker was sacked for was free speech, this was aggressive, intimidating behaviour,

arista
07-06-2019, 02:01 PM
But what did she do wrong?
She didn’t break the law
She didn’t assault anyone
Yes she shouted at someone, but all she did was use her right to free speech to voice her opinion
The far right are all for that when it’s their speech that is free, but they’re not so keen on it when they’re the recipients are they?
Snowflakes can’t take a few mean words and suddenly this woman is forced to resign, hypocrisy at the highest level.
Anyone who signed that petition has no right to advocate for free speech and should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.


Yes "Nazi Scum" Fast
he was a American.

Her face has gone all over the World
its good she lost her NHS job

Liam-
07-06-2019, 02:06 PM
You always talk about the far Right but never the far Left. You know, all those good people carrying their images of Stalin....

Maybe it's time to start referring to them as Stalinists. Let's diminish the seriousness of what he did in the same way the Left are diminishing what Hitler did by referring to people as Nazis without having the first clue what that means.

I comment on most stories I see on here, I’m a nondiscriminatory commentator, I’m happy to have discussions about both sides, I also don’t refer to people as nazis... unless they’re nazis obviously

Yes "Nazi Scum" Fast
he was a American.

Her face has gone all over the World
its good she lost her NHS job

So you think, in the current state of the nhs and their lack of staff, that it’s a good thing this woman lost her job, for voicing an opinion?
Very counterproductive

arista
07-06-2019, 02:13 PM
So you think, in the current state of the nhs and their lack of staff, that it’s a good thing this woman lost her job, for voicing an opinion?
Very counterproductive


Yes she is Dangerous
imagine a Pro trump fella on a stretcher
she could kill him............................



Voice your opinion is fine
But never shout Nazi Scum in a Rage
at a American during D-Day week.

Liam-
07-06-2019, 02:15 PM
Yes she is Dangerous
imagine a Pro trump fella on a stretcher
she could kill him............................



Voice your opinion is fine
But never shout Nazi Scum in a Rage
at a American during D-Day week.

Come on now, I’ve seen some whataboutery before, but it’s a massive stretch between voicing an opinion and murder, don’t be ridiculous :laugh:

reece(:
07-06-2019, 02:29 PM
Casually forgetting the defence of John Rhys Davies when he was aggressive and slamming his fists on a table towards Caroline Lucas?

The inconsistency! Whew!

reece(:
07-06-2019, 02:39 PM
Imagine defending this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7VuFB2W4AAoOFl.jpg

Oliver_W
07-06-2019, 02:40 PM
The crowd are ***** for getting drawn into the bait and reacting with such vitriol but the plant, if that's the case, is just as bad for riling up a crowd in order to use their reaction to try to debase what is otherwise a peaceful protest across the entirety of the UK. It's dishonest and a sadly common characteristic of the current right wing.
Even if he stood there and said he was going to help Trump re-light the ovens and throw them all in, it wouldn't warrant the crowd's response.

Vicky.
07-06-2019, 02:42 PM
Screaming in someone's face like a ****ing lunatic because he's wearing a hat with a message you don't approve of is not exercising your right to free speech.

Yeah i would agree with this tbh.

Mind I don't think it has anything to do with her job so being sacked/resigning seems OTT.

Oliver_W
07-06-2019, 02:47 PM
Mind I don't think it has anything to do with her job so being sacked/resigning seems OTT.

Depends on the job - if she was some kind of carer or a nurse, or worked in education, it wouldn't be that OTT really - I wouldn't want a psycho like that looking after me or my relatives.

arista
07-06-2019, 02:48 PM
Imagine defending this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7VuFB2W4AAoOFl.jpg


Thats well over 10 years before he became President


Typical of you you dig up something from years ago

arista
07-06-2019, 02:51 PM
Come on now, I’ve seen some whataboutery before, but it’s a massive stretch between voicing an opinion and murder, don’t be ridiculous :laugh:


She was the NHS worker
that got into a Rage
shouting Nazi Scum

Showing the World the
folks we suffer

chuff me dizzy
07-06-2019, 03:41 PM
Screaming in someone's face like a ****ing lunatic because he's wearing a hat with a message you don't approve of is not exercising your right to free speech.

:clap1: No its not the same ,that old man was doing nothing wrong

Tom4784
07-06-2019, 04:29 PM
Screaming in someone's face like a ****ing lunatic because he's wearing a hat with a message you don't approve of is not exercising your right to free speech.

IF that is what happened, as it stands there is no footage of how the situation came to be that incensed. The woman is a dick but let's be honest, if she was a brexiter or a Trump supporter doing the same thing then a lot of people who signed that petition to get her the sack would be calling such a petition a sign of censorship.

You always talk about the far Right but never the far Left. You know, all those good people carrying their images of Stalin....

Maybe it's time to start referring to them as Stalinists. Let's diminish the seriousness of what he did in the same way the Left are diminishing what Hitler did by referring to people as Nazis without having the first clue what that means.

Attacks on abortion clinics, attacks on mosques and gospel churches, attacks on protesters with a car, the murder of an MP over Brexit. All these are examples of right wing terrorism and only the incidents I can think of off the top of my head. There's plenty of attacks that don't make the headlines.

The reason why people speak about far right a lot is because it represents a growing terrorist threat. What you are trying to do here is just false equivalency really. The extreme sides of anything should be denounced, both are a threat although it's undeniable that the Far Right are by far the biggest threat. We should denounce both of them, we should denounce people on our side who are extreme in their approach, not defend them out of tribalism.

Tom4784
07-06-2019, 04:36 PM
Even if he stood there and said he was going to help Trump re-light the ovens and throw them all in, it wouldn't warrant the crowd's response.

They screamed at him, it wasn't a good thing to do but it's not like they set him on fire or attacked him. There's lots of right wing people on Twitter who are clutching their pearls, pretending to be outraged when, if the shoe was on the other foot, they would be cheering on the crowd if they stood in support with Trump. If Tommy Robinson can punch people with no condemnation from his followers then the similar crowds that champion Trump wouldn't be offended if Trump supporters screamed in the face of anti-trump protesters.

The people behind that petition and the right wing commentators on Twitter aren't offended by what they've seen, they just want the chance to stick the knife in and try to demean the wide reaching protests by using one incident that was most likely set up.

Liam-
07-06-2019, 04:43 PM
What about all those trump supporters who berate any form of media at his rallies? Should they all lose their jobs because they aggressively shout, snarl and swear at people too?

Let’s start being intellectually honest with ourselves and not fall into a pattern of hypocrisy shall we

Tom4784
07-06-2019, 04:48 PM
What about all those trump supporters who berate any form of media at his rallies? Should they all lose their jobs because they aggressively shout, snarl and swear at people too?

Let’s start being intellectually honest with ourselves and not fall into a pattern of hypocrisy shall we

Yup, it's only fake news when the right don't want to acknowledge it but they'll accept the sketchiest stories as fact as long as it lines up with their agenda.

Beso
07-06-2019, 05:05 PM
Imagine defending this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7VuFB2W4AAoOFl.jpg

Oh come on....if that was an enterence bio to some crazy female bb hm she wold be stanned (uncle parmy hoping that means worshipped) all over the forum.

Beso
07-06-2019, 05:08 PM
Imagine getting a vasectomy of this woman if you wandered into the hospital with a maga hat on.

Twosugars
07-06-2019, 05:11 PM
Oh come on....if that was an enterence bio to some crazy female bb hm she wold be stanned (uncle parmy hoping that means worshipped) all over the forum.
that's why nobody minded him when he was a RTV star.
but a president? an embarassment

reece(:
08-06-2019, 01:37 PM
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