London shop refuses to serve Judy Murray because of Scottish tenner

[arista]

What a Outrage using Scottish Pounds!


[A campaign has been launched to
make Scottish currency legal tender
across the UK after Judy Murray
was told she couldn't buy doughnuts with it.
The 59-year-old coach - and mother of tennis
superstars Andy and Jamie - tried to pay
for two doughnuts at a London bakery
on Sunday, but was told her Scottish currency was not valid.
Murray, whose sons have
won Grand Slam titles including
Wimbledon, tweeted: "When you go
to pay £9 for 2 donuts (yes, really)
in London and your £10 Bank of Scotland
note is refused because "we only take British ones".]


https://news.sky.com/story/london-shop-refuses-to-serve-judy-murray-because-of-scottish-tenner-11690842


[According to the Royal Mint, the phrase "legal tender" is a narrow technical term
referring to the settlement of debts,
and in ordinary transactions both parties can agree to accept "any form of payment".]

[Twosugars]

yup, shops are funny about Scottish notes
ridiculous

[michael21]

What a donut

[Liam-]

9 quid for two donuts? That’s the true scandal here

[user104658]

Technically it's legal to refuse any note you want to refuse but I don't see why anyone would, as there's never a problem banking them :think:. Doing themselves out of money really.

[Josy]

That's the law :shrug:

[bots]

Any shop has the right to refuse money offered if there is a possibility that it may have been forged and with Scottish money the person won't be familiar it and know if it has been forged or not. It's quite possible that the shop assistant would be held responsible for any dodgy money taken

[Oliver_W]

"Et's leegul tenduh!!"

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its nothing more than abject ignorance and poor education by shopkeepers

throw in some xenophobia too

vile

[hijaxers]

Every single time i've used a scottish £20 a manager gets called over to ok it !
Never ceases to amaze me how few people have ever seen one.

They always take them where i shop though , i'd be pretty furious if they refused .

[chuff me dizzy]

Last time we had been to Scotland I had some Scottish notes left when we came home ,the performance in Morrisons checking it was pathetic, she even pressed buzzer for a supervisor to come check !!

[Cherie]

Too right we don't want any of this foreign muck infilterating our pure plastic notes :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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:flutter:

[Cherie]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn7EeYYcHn4FhZYSkyZQfjvbrXKgJCT kPBGFFDbzagbT3LxDf3

:flutter:

looks well dodgy

[Wizard.]

BUT do they accept English notes in Scotland that's the question!

[Cherie]

BUT do they accept English notes in Scotland that's the question!

They accept plenty taxpayer notes :hehe:

[user104658]

Any shop has the right to refuse money offered if there is a possibility that it may have been forged and with Scottish money the person won't be familiar it and know if it has been forged or not. It's quite possible that the shop assistant would be held responsible for any dodgy money taken

Sorry to say it Bots but as the manager of a cash-intensive business, I consider the inability to spot ANY forged note on contact to be an incompetence that requires further training. They are not difficult to spot and anyone who is handling cash regularly should (literally) be able to identify a forged note with their eyes closed.

[Twosugars]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQn7EeYYcHn4FhZYSkyZQfjvbrXKgJCT kPBGFFDbzagbT3LxDf3

:flutter:

Pretty note.
Robbie Burns, huh?

[Crimson Dynamo]

correct

the People's Poet

[Vicky.]

A fair few shops round here refuse them..we had huge issues when we withdrew cash on a visist to glasgow and half the shops refused them..I didn't know they could tbh. Infact thinking of it, every bar I have worked in said not to take the clydesdale notes because they are so easily forged or something..

[James]

I wonder if Scottish shops take Northern Ireland banknotes? I've never seen them here.

[MTVN]

Scottish notes do seem to be the ones that are faked the most as people know that English staff will be less familiar with them and could probably be quite easily intimidated into accepting them by insisting that 'it's legal tender'

[user104658]

I wonder if Scottish shops take Northern Ireland banknotes? I've never seen them here.We can and should take them just like any other sterling bank note; however I would imagine, as with Scottish notes in England, inexperienced staff probably reject them out of fear that they're not "real money".

They're not that common though, I'd say I bank 1 or 2 Irish fivers a week and a very occasional 10/20.

[Livia]

I wonder if Scottish shops take Northern Ireland banknotes? I've never seen them here.

I was listening to the radio earlier and someone said, if you think using Scottish notes in England is tough, try using a Northern Irish note in Scotland.

[Marsh.]

Every single time i've used a scottish £20 a manager gets called over to ok it !
Never ceases to amaze me how few people have ever seen one.

They always take them where i shop though , i'd be pretty furious if they refused .

It's not really about never having seen them, like we were instructed not to accept them for a while. Probably just because people are so unfamiliar with them they're less likely to spot a fake. We have a machine to check all notes are authentic now so it's not such a big deal anymore. But at the moment, we're not allowed to accept Scottish/Irish 50s.

[user104658]

Honestly I think staff just need to be better trained on counterfeit cash. Like I said, there are some VERY RARE decent counterfeit paper English 20's that go around but they are only convincing when they're brand new, and they don't pass the rub test.

The vast majority of fake notes should be easy to spot instantly. Paper notes, they'll either feel "too dry" because they're just normal paper and not the "special blend" used for notes - OR if someone has tried to fake the appearance of a real note, they'll feel waxy.

The new polymer ones honestly don't even think about it. If it looks and feels anything like a real banknote, it is one. The fakes are hilarious and feel like polythene bags.

My favourites are when people have put in a hit of extra effort; like making a tiny transparent window out of clingfilm or clear tape. My all time craftsmanship award goes to one where someone had actually made the hologram on a £20 out of tinfoil coloured in with felt tip pens :joker:. You could hear it crinkling!

Top excuse I've had was for someone trying to pass off a paper £10 note that was made out of printed tissue paper... Saying that "it had accidentally gone through the wash in his pocket" and that's why it felt so flimsy. :think:

[Marsh.]

Yeah, the worst fake anyone tried to use with me was a shoddy photocopy that they didn't even attempt to cut out in straight lines. :joker: Did give us a laugh though.

[user104658]

Yeah, the worst fake anyone tried to use with me was a shoddy photocopy that they didn't even attempt to cut out in straight lines. :joker: Did give us a laugh though.I forgot "tiny fiver"! :joker: Someone actually TOOK a £5 note that was at most 2/3 the size of a normal fiver and it provided such amusement that we kept it pinned up in the staff kitchen for years. I wonder what happened to it :worry:.

[James]

Do you ever see a Royal Bank of Scotland £1 note? Apparently they are still in circulation, and 'legal tender'.

Someone tried to use one in a shop near me a while back, but I don't think they took it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Bank_of_Scotland_£1_note

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scotland invented the Bank of England and Banknotes


as I said, English retailers need to stick in at school or look silly

[AnnieK]

I remember when I was working in the States in the 90s a lot of stores had forged notes pinned up with a name and sometimes a picture of the person who tried to pass them off

[Vicky.]

They're not that common though, I'd say I bank 1 or 2 Irish fivers a week and a very occasional 10/20.

Aren't Ireland euros?

Fairly sure I have never even seen Irish notes, if they exist alongside euros or something? IDK :laugh:

[Niamh.]

Aren't Ireland euros?



Fairly sure I have never even seen Irish notes, if they exist alongside euros or something? IDK [emoji23]Northern Ireland is pounds, republic of Ireland is euros

[Greg!]

This INFURIATES me! Could you imagine the fumes if Scottish shops rejected English notes!

[user104658]

Do you ever see a Royal Bank of Scotland £1 note? Apparently they are still in circulation, and 'legal tender'.

Someone tried to use one in a shop near me a while back, but I don't think they took it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_Bank_of_Scotland_£1_note

I've not seen anyone use one for a couple of years - we did have one kicking about in a drawer for a while, though (it may still be there :think: ). I didn't actually know they were technically still in circulation :hehe:.

Still get quite a few old £1 coins which is a pain as they are NOT legal currency... but there was a software bug (that was never rectified) that means that 2 of our "BetStation" sports betting terminals still accept them :facepalm:.

[Marsh.]

This INFURIATES me! Could you imagine the fumes if Scottish shops rejected English notes!

Well that would be silly as English money is more important.

[user104658]

We do get a fair few of these beasts coming through:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/RBS-Ilay-Series-%C2%A3100-Front.png/200px-RBS-Ilay-Series-%C2%A3100-Front.png

[Cherie]

Well that would be silly as English money is more important.

tea

[Cherie]

We do get a fair few of these beasts coming through:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7b/RBS-Ilay-Series-%C2%A3100-Front.png/200px-RBS-Ilay-Series-%C2%A3100-Front.png

ooo pass a few along

[joeysteele]

This INFURIATES me! Could you imagine the fumes if Scottish shops rejected English notes!

Exactly.

Probably action of some sort would be sought.