First info on PS5

[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-sony-next-gen-console/

MARK CERNY WOULD like to get one thing out of the way right now: The videogame console that Sony has spent the past four years building is no mere upgrade.

You’d have good reason for thinking otherwise. Sony and Microsoft both extended the current console generation via a mid-cycle refresh, with the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 spawning mini-sequels (the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro). “The key question,” Cerny says, “is whether the console adds another layer to the sorts of experiences you already have access to, or if it allows for fundamental changes in what a game can be.”

The answer, in this case, is the latter. It’s why we’re sitting here, secreted away in a conference room at Sony’s headquarters in Foster City, California, where Cerny is finally detailing the inner workings of the as-yet-unnamed console that will replace the PS4.

SENIOR CORRESPONDENT PETER RUBIN COVERS CULTURE AND TECHNOLOGY FOR WIRED.
If history is any guide, it will eventually be dubbed the PlayStation 5. For now, Cerny responds to that question—and many others—with an enigmatic smile. The “next-gen console,“ as he refers to it repeatedly, won’t be landing in stores anytime in 2019. A number of studios have been working with it, though, and Sony recently accelerated its deployment of devkits so that game creators will have the time they need to adjust to its capabilities.

As he did with the PS4, Cerny acted as lead system architect for the coming system, integrating developers’ wishes and his own gaming hopes into something that’s much more revolution than evolution. For the more than 90 million people who own PS4s, that's good news indeed. Sony’s got a brand-new box.

A TRUE GENERATIONAL shift tends to include a few foundational adjustments. A console’s CPU and GPU become more powerful, able to deliver previously unattainable graphical fidelity and visual effects; system memory increases in size and speed; and game files grow to match, necessitating larger downloads or higher-capacity physical media like discs.

PlayStation’s next-generation console ticks all those boxes, starting with an AMD chip at the heart of the device. (Warning: some alphabet soup follows.) The CPU is based on the third generation of AMD’s Ryzen line and contains eight cores of the company’s new 7nm Zen 2 microarchitecture. The GPU, a custom variant of Radeon’s Navi family, will support ray tracing, a technique that models the travel of light to simulate complex interactions in 3D environments. While ray tracing is a staple of Hollywood visual effects and is beginning to worm its way into high-end processors and Nvidia's recently announced RTX line, no game console has been able to manage it. Yet.


Ray tracing’s immediate benefits are largely visual. Because it mimics the way light bounces from object to object in a scene, reflective surfaces and refractions through glass or liquid can be rendered much more accurately, even in real-time, leading to heightened realism. According to Cerny, the applications go beyond graphic implications. “If you wanted to run tests to see if the player can hear certain audio sources or if the enemies can hear the players’ footsteps, ray tracing is useful for that,” he says. “It's all the same thing as taking a ray through the environment.”

The AMD chip also includes a custom unit for 3D audio that Cerny thinks will redefine what sound can do in a videogame. “As a gamer,” he says, “it's been a little bit of a frustration that audio did not change too much between PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4. With the next console the dream is to show how dramatically different the audio experience can be when we apply significant amounts of hardware horsepower to it.”

The result, Cerny says, will make you feel more immersed in the game as sounds come at you from above, from behind, and from the side. While the effect will require no external hardware—it will work through TV speakers and visual surround sound—he allows that the “gold standard” will be headphone audio.

One of the words Cerny uses to describe the audio may be a familiar to those who follow virtual reality: presence, that feeling of existing inside a simulated environment. When he mentions it, I ask him about PlayStation VR, the peripheral system that has sold more than 4 million units since its 2016 release. Specifically, I ask if there will be a next-gen PSVR to go alongside this next console. “I won't go into the details of our VR strategy today,” he says, “beyond saying that VR is very important to us and that the current PSVR headset is compatible with the new console.”

So. New CPU, new GPU, the ability to deliver unprecedented visual and audio effects in a game (and maybe a PSVR sequel at some point). That’s all great, but there’s something else that excites Cerny even more. Something that he calls “a true game changer,” something that more than anything else is “the key to the next generation.” It’s a hard drive.

THE LARGER A game gets—last year’s Red Dead Redemption 2 clocked in at a horse-choking 99 gigabytes for the PS4—the longer it takes to do just about everything. Loading screens can last minutes while the game pulls what it needs to from the hard drive. Same goes for “fast travel,” when characters transport between far-flung points within a game world. Even opening a door can take over a minute, depending on what’s on the other side and how much more data the game needs to load. Starting in the fall of 2015, when Cerny first began talking to developers about what they’d want from the next generation, he heard it time and time again: I know it’s impossible, but can we have an SSD?

Solid-state drives have been available in budget laptops for more than a decade, and the Xbox One and PS4 both offer external SSDs that claim to improve load times. But not all SSDs are created alike. As Cerny points out, “I have an SSD in my laptop, and when I want to change from Excel to Word I can wait 15 seconds.” What’s built into Sony’s next-gen console is something a little more specialized.

To demonstrate, Cerny fires up a PS4 Pro playing Spider-Man, a 2018 PS4 exclusive that he worked on alongside Insomniac Games. (He’s not just an systems architect; Cerny created arcade classic Marble Madness when he was all of 19 and was heavily involved with PlayStation and PS2 franchises like Crash Bandicoot, Spyro the Dragon, and Ratchet and Clank.) On the TV, Spidey stands in a small plaza. Cerny presses a button on the controller, initiating a fast-travel interstitial screen. When Spidey reappears in a totally different spot in Manhattan, 15 seconds have elapsed. Then Cerny does the same thing on a next-gen devkit connected to a different TV. (The devkit, an early “low-speed” version, is concealed in a big silver tower, with no visible componentry.) What took 15 seconds now takes less than one: 0.8 seconds, to be exact.

That’s just one consequence of an SSD. There’s also the speed with which a world can be rendered, and thus the speed with which a character can move through that world. Cerny runs a similar two-console demonstration, this time with the camera moving up one of Midtown’s avenues. On the original PS4, the camera moves at about the speed Spidey hits while web-slinging. “No matter how powered up you get as Spider-Man, you can never go any faster than this,” Cerny says, “because that's simply how fast we can get the data off the hard drive.” On the next-gen console, the camera speeds uptown like it’s mounted to a fighter jet. Periodically, Cerny pauses the action to prove that the surrounding environment remains perfectly crisp. (While the next-gen console will support 8K graphics, TVs that deliver it are few and far between, so we’re using a 4K TV.)

What else developers will be able to do is a question Cerny can’t answer yet, because those developers are still figuring it all out—but he sees the SSD as unlocking an entirely new age, one that upends the very tropes that have become the bedrock of gaming. “We're very used to flying logos at the start of the game and graphic-heavy selection screens," he says, "even things like multiplayer lobbies and intentionally detailed loadout processes, because you don't want players just to be waiting."

At the moment, Sony won’t cop to exact details about the SSD—who makes it, whether it utilizes the new PCIe 4.0 standard—but Cerny claims that it has a raw bandwidth higher than any SSD available for PCs. That’s not all. “The raw read speed is important,“ Cerny says, “but so are the details of the I/O [input-output] mechanisms and the software stack that we put on top of them. I got a PlayStation 4 Pro and then I put in a SSD that cost as much as the PlayStation 4 Pro—it might be one-third faster." As opposed to 19 times faster for the next-gen console, judging from the fast-travel demo.

As you’ve noticed, this is all hardware talk. Cerny isn’t ready to chat about services or other features, let alone games and price, and neither is anyone at Sony. Nor will you hear much about the console at E3 in June—for the first time, Sony won’t be holding a keynote at the annual games show. But a few more things come out during the course of our conversation. For example, the next-gen console will still accept physical media; it won’t be a download-only machine. Because it’s based in part on the PS4’s architecture, it will also be backward-compatible with games for that console. As in many other generational transitions, this will be a gentle one, with numerous new games being released for both PS4 and the next-gen console. (Where exactly Hideo Kojima’s forthcoming title Death Stranding fits in that process is still unconfirmed. When asked, a spokesperson in the room repeated that the game would be released for PS4, but Cerny’s smile and pregnant pause invites speculation that it will in fact be a two-platform release.)

What gaming will look like in a year or two, let alone 10, is a matter of some debate. Battle-royale games have reshaped multiplayer experiences; augmented reality marries the fantastic and real in unprecedented ways. Google is leading a charge away from traditional consoles by launching a cloud-gaming service, Stadia, later this year. Microsoft’s next version of the Xbox will presumably integrate cloud gaming as well to allow people to play Xbox games on multiple devices. Sony’s plans in this regard are still unclear—it’s one of the many things Cerny is keeping mum on, saying only that “we are cloud-gaming pioneers, and our vision should become clear as we head toward launch”—but it’s hard to think there won’t be more news coming on that front.

For now, there’s the living room. It’s where the PlayStation has sat through four generations—and will continue to sit at least one generation more.

[The Slim Reaper]

- Heavy CPU Upgrade (based on AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen)
- SSD that makes games load 19x faster
- Support for 8K resolution
- PS4 backwards compatibility

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

- PS4 backwards compatibility

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[Ramsay]

SSD that's what I like to hear

[JerseyWins]

Yes @ backwards compatibility:clap1:

& 19x faster loading :love:

[Smithy]

- Heavy CPU Upgrade (based on AMD Ryzen 3rd Gen)
- SSD that makes games load 19x faster
- Support for 8K resolution
- PS4 backwards compatibility

Glad you put that there cause I’m not reading that bloody dissertation of a post

[Mystic Mock]

I would like the Console to have more PS1 and PS2 Games available to download from the Playstation Store compared to the PS4.

I want to be able to play LMA Manager and Shadow The Hedgehog.

[arista]

[According to the leak, the PlayStation 5 will either be released in March 2020 or November 2020, and will cost $499 (£380).
Express Online has heard similar reports of a March 2020 launch from industry insiders.
But the report also claims that the PS5 will launch alongside a PlayStation Plus Premium subscription.]


https://www.standard.co.uk/tech/sony-ps5-release-date-price-specs-console-a4119551.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

It will launch with GTA 6 for sure and i have told the smallest boy LT we will both be taking a day off work/school for launch day.

he actually made me buy a ps3 at the weekend (40 quid) so we can play GTA 4 and Gran Turismo

[RileyH]

do they really another one

[Denver]

do they really another one

:conf:

[The Slim Reaper]

It will launch with GTA 6 for sure and i have told the smallest boy LT we will both be taking a day off work/school for launch day.

he actually made me buy a ps3 at the weekend (40 quid) so we can play GTA 4 and Gran Turismo

Not sure that's going to happen, unless November is the release instead of Mar/April. Rockstar haven't provided any info on a new GTA yet, and they normally announce around a year before release, going on their past.

[arista]

Rumor: 'GTA 6' Release Date and PS5 Timed Exclusivity Leaked

https://comicbook.com/gaming/2019/04/15/gta-6-vi-release-date-ps5-xbox/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure that's going to happen, unless November is the release instead of Mar/April. Rockstar haven't provided any info on a new GTA yet, and they normally announce around a year before release, going on their past.

its going to be liberty city and miami

[Tom4784]

I don't think it'll launch until the end of next year. I'm honestly not sure if it'll be revealed this year tbh.

[LaLaLand]

Probably a late 2020 release. Really intrigued. Backwards compatibility though!! :clap2:

Cannot wait for GTA 6!!

[user104658]

Honestly I reckon GTA6 will blow RDR2 out of the water... A lot of "prototyping" and learning will have gone on in that development cycle that will be prep for GTA6. GTA5 is the best selling AAA game of all time, and not by a small amount.

And I mean... Cars and motorbikes are inherently more fun than horses so...

[Smithy]

Cycle for playstation has been every 6 years so would make sense, last time the console was announced in February for a November release though :think:

[Smithy]

Honestly I reckon GTA6 will blow RDR2 out of the water... A lot of "prototyping" and learning will have gone on in that development cycle that will be prep for GTA6. GTA5 is the best selling AAA game of all time, and not by a small amount.

And I mean... Cars and motorbikes are inherently more fun than horses so...

Hopefully you’re better at driving cars than you are at riding horses :idc:

[user104658]

Hopefully you’re better at driving cars than you are at riding horses :idc:

Cars don't die when you crash them :hmph:

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Smithy]

She’s gorg

[user104658]

1247615732961050625Gross I don't like it

[LaLaLand]

Liking that!

[Wizard.]

She's futuristic

[Jake.]

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Reminds me of the Dreamcast controller

[Shaun]

It's nice. Will be interested in other colours though

[user104658]

It's nice. Will be interested in other colours thoughI think that's my issue with it. PS controllers are BLACK, have been since PS2. And with coloured button symbols. They can KEEP their "Apple-esque" goop controller :hmph:. New shape and layout is fine but there better be an all black one with coloured buttons :fist:

[Shaun]

Yeah I would imagine they'll launch with a "more black" version since they launched the PS4 with a white edition. Curious about them going with white for the big reveal, though.

I've been through about just every main colour of PS4 controller since release BUT white :laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

The lack of coloured symbols on the buttons distresses me also

[user104658]

The lack of coloured symbols on the buttons distresses me alsoI'm not having it. Honestly if it launches like that... I'm going to make little coloured stickers. Sell em on eBay and make a fortune because NO ONE wants this to happen.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I'm not having it. Honestly if it launches like that... I'm going to make little coloured stickers. Sell em on eBay and make a fortune because NO ONE wants this to happen.

I remember they did the same thing with the 360 controller years ago (close to the end of that gen iirc) then when xbone launched the colours were back

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Shaun]

Looks lovely but I'm not getting sucked into another "LOOK AT THIS AMAZING CINEMATIC" launch cycle again :laugh:

[Scarlett.]

I dunno, unlike most pre-release stuff, it does actually look achievable, obviously this is from an Uncharted type demo so its very linear

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZcnpanU4AAVrUg?format=jpg&name=small

[Wizard.]

I really don't think anyone cares if Sony goes ahead with this amidst the current movement, nobody's going to be outraged but I guess it's a PR stunt for them.

Gaming is popular but like, this even is only going to be watched by a handful of the population anyway.

[arista]

Yes June 4
2 days away.


They need to give a New Date

[arista]

I will put my GTA5
in first, when I buy the new PS5

[The Slim Reaper]

I will put my GTA5
in first, when I buy the new PS5

Do you play online? I have to get in a party with Arista to play GTA.

What's your gamertag?

[user104658]

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I feel like Sony have hijacked this tech advance a bit (probably with permission/in conjunction with Epic... but still) as this is more about the capabilities of Unreal 5 than the hardware (though of course, the hardware has to be good enough to run it). It is impressive though. I wouldn't expect to see games like this until maybe 2023 though, it takes devs a few years to get to grips with a new engine and push it to its capabilites. Tech demos like this are a different beast, as they'll have spent 6+ months optimising this few-minute-long segment, which obviously isn't a workable timeframe for making a whole game.

There was 6 years between the "Kara" tech demo and the release of Detroit: Become Human :umm2:.

[user104658]

Do you play online? I have to get in a party with Arista to play GTA.

What's your gamertag?

"Arista you've just been stood there for hours"
"I only do stock market. I am richest in game. I do not drive the poxy cars. If a hooker passes, I will punch her."

[arista]

Do you play online? I have to get in a party with Arista to play GTA.

What's your gamertag?


No
PS4 DTS 5.1 sound

[arista]

"Arista you've just been stood there for hours"
"I only do stock market. I am richest in game. I do not drive the poxy cars. If a hooker passes, I will punch her."


No go to the Hospital Green
park your car


Pistol Whip the women.



Police arrive
you Fire your......
into their car
Exploding their cars


Drive to the motorway
the race is on.


I have even Driven a Cop car
with a Dead Cop sitting next to me.
Folks walking past my battered car on the pavement
say "disgusting"

[The Slim Reaper]

No
PS4 DTS 5.1 sound

Too tight to pay for ps plus?

[The Slim Reaper]

I'll pay for 1 month ps plus if we can play online games?

[Tom4784]

It's funny watching all the racist anime profile pics on Twitter going mad over the presentation being delayed.

[arista]

Too tight to pay for ps plus?

No need

[user104658]

Too tight to pay for ps plus?

I'll pay for 1 month ps plus if we can play online games?

Sadly, arista's console ID is banned for life.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

"Arista you've just been stood there for hours"
"I only do stock market. I am richest in game. I do not drive the poxy cars. If a hooker passes, I will punch her."

SCREAMING

[The Slim Reaper]

Sadly, arista's console ID is banned for life.

Telling all the noobs he was gonna shag their mums?! :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Arista

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I'll pay for 1 month ps plus if we can play online games?

Where was this attitude when i wanted doom eternal

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[The Slim Reaper]

Where was this attitude when i wanted doom eternal

https://media.tenor.com/images/9a336c764dc24544e633a7615fb79054/tenor.gif

I offered to buy you the DLC if Arista bought the game :hmph:

[Scarlett.]

Event is on Thursday at 9pm!

[The Slim Reaper]

Arista, when are we playing?

[user104658]

Arista, when are we playing?

He doesn't have PSN why can't you understand his plight??

[The Slim Reaper]

He doesn't have PSN why can't you understand his plight??

I'm starting to think that us playing together is maybe a little more one-sided than I'd hoped :fist:

[user104658]

I'm starting to think that us playing together is maybe a little more one-sided than I'd hoped :fist:

Just pick a random pedestrian and pretend. Follow it around for a while, see what happens. If it donkey punches a hooker and disappears in a stolen police cruiser, it's him.

[The Slim Reaper]

Just pick a random pedestrian and pretend. Follow it around for a while, see what happens. If it donkey punches a hooker and disappears in a stolen police cruiser, it's him.

Spend days walking by the hospital green, just hoping for a glimpse.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[JerseyWins]

100% getting this. Hopefully it's not just a PS4 with a new number to it :fc:

[Smithy]

£599 starting price in the UK :skull:

[bots]

they seem to say that the 599 price was an Amazon place holder ... it was the same price for 3 different models :laugh:

[user104658]

tbh I'd pay £600 so long as it meant quality hardware. Consoles have a habit of cutting a few too many corners.

[Smithy]

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She’s gorgeous!

[LukeB]

:flutter: the design is amazing!!!

[JerseyWins]

The black & white color scheme for everything is sexy

We love cookies & cream :clap1:

[Ramsay]

Looks like a modem

[Shaun]

Beautiful

[Smithy]

GTAV being available at launch :skull: the good sis will NOT die! Can see RDR2 getting a release on it too

[arista]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-53008188

["While there's still a lot of unanswered questions
about the PS5, namely price and release date,
I think Sony did exactly what they needed to
with this reveal event," commented Laura Kate Dale,
a freelance games critic.
"It showed off an hour of games,
mixing sequels to popular titles, and
new franchises from its biggest first-party studios,
for a solid hour.
"People on Twitter are very split on whether
they like or hate the look of the box,
but overall Sony spent an
hour getting people excited."
So many people remarked that the console
looked like a "wi-fi router",
that the term trended on Twitter
shortly after the event.]

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Project athia has a 2023 release date why did they even show it :skull:

[Tom4784]

Resident Evil 8 was the highlight for me although Spiderman and Horizon came close.

Witches in Resident Evil? I am all the way here for it.

[Nancy.]

Gorgeous design. Definitely gonna buy it.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

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I rly hate this :worry: the white and blue together look awful

[Dogeatdog]

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I rly hate this :worry: the white and blue together look awful

Yh I think the white makes them look a bit cheap tbh.

[arista]

GTAV being available at launch :skull: the good sis will NOT die! Can see RDR2 getting a release on it too

Expanded and Enhanced


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Bliss

[Barry.]

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I rly hate this :worry: the white and blue together look awful

It's fine for me, not bad but not the best.

[arista]

PS5 Digital Edition price reported but Sony faces PS5 supply issues


[Apparently, the slow-down at the factory
is due to the intricacies of the PS5's revolutionary
system-on-chip.
The sources claim that production yield for
Sony's SOC chips has dropped as low as 50%,
meaning 1 in 2 is deemed not good enough.

Fingers crossed we'll find out more at
tomorrow's PS5 showcase. The Japanese giant says the
40-minute virtual event will feature "a look at some of the
great games coming to the PS5 at launch (and beyond!)".
The event begins this Wednesday,
16th September at 1pm PDT / 9pm BST / 10pm CEST.

As it stands, Microsoft is leading the race for Christmas
sales, having announced that the Xbox Series X
will cost £449 ($499, AU$749) and the Series S £249 ($299, AU$499).
Xbox pre-orders begin from 22nd September.]


https://www.whathifi.com/news/ps5-digital-edition-price-reported-but-sony-faces-ps5-supply-issues

[LukeB]

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[Ramsay]

Digital day 1 for me hey
Gonna trade in my ps4 to cex tomorrow and then I can get the ps5 for €150 in two months

[LukeB]

Cheaper than I expected tbh

How much was PS4 when it was out?

[Tom4784]

More expensive than I though, I was thinking around £400 and £300 for the digital version.

I'll stick to my plan of waiting until February/March to buy it, I think. Miles Morales is really the only game that's really tempting me at the moment and, if Capcom are consistent with their release dates, it'll be around February or March that REVIII releases.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Cheaper than I expected tbh

How much was PS4 when it was out?

£350

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Tree fiddy

[user104658]

What's the word on PS2 backwards compatibility? I don't really buy physical games any more, the last was nearly 3 years ago, so I would totally go for the digital edition (mainly for the sleeker look) but if there's PS2 backwards compatibility I'll be shelling out for the drive.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

What's the word on PS2 backwards compatibility? I don't really buy physical games any more, the last was nearly 3 years ago, so I would totally go for the digital edition (mainly for the sleeker look) but if there's PS2 backwards compatibility I'll be shelling out for the drive.

I vaguely remember reading that it’s only backwards compatible with ps4 games but i might have imagined that idk

[user104658]

I vaguely remember reading that it’s only backwards compatible with ps4 games but i might have imagined that idkI googleded it and it is just PS4 :bawling: DISGUSTANG. Might as well just get the digital edition then :shrug:..

[LukeB]

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[arista]

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

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Sksksks

[Dogeatdog]

I googleded it and it is just PS4 :bawling: DISGUSTANG. Might as well just get the digital edition then :shrug:..

So disappointing. I would’ve thought they’d at least make it compatible with PS3 games but nope just PS4 only. :(

[Liam-]

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How long are they going to dine out on this? :love:

Loved the game but cmon

[Scarlett.]

The complete list of PS4 games that the PS5 WONT play

DWVR
Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Joe's Diner

[Wizard.]

The complete list of PS4 games that the PS5 WONT play

gutted

[Scarlett.]

I'll be devastated to never be able to play Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One on the PS5

[user104658]

Is there an explanation for why it won't play these totally random games? :joker:

Also... I'm assuming the answer is yes :umm2: but... I'm assuming we can download PS4 games we own on PSN to the PS5?

[Tom4784]

Is there an explanation for why it won't play these totally random games? :joker:

Also... I'm assuming the answer is yes :umm2: but... I'm assuming we can download PS4 games we own on PSN to the PS5?

Yeah, you can download PS4 titles to the PS5. You will also be able to play with PS4 players in those games too.

[user104658]

Yeah, you can download PS4 titles to the PS5. You will also be able to play with PS4 players in those games too.Good to know, I still have a tonne of PS4 games I've not played and I'm pretty sure my PS4 isnt far from giving up completely.

[user104658]

I just read that both the XBXSRSX and PS5 are rockin' somewhere around the equivalent of an RTX 2080 Super... but the already released (though impossible to buy anywhere :bawling: ) RTX 30- series outperforms the 20- series by a massive margin... an even bigger jump in performance than the GTX 9- series to the 10- series (which was huge).

So the consoles are lagging significantly behind high-end PC graphics before they've even released which I think might be a first :umm2:.

I wonder how it'll affect the generation. Like I said, the jump in performance is unusually big and if the consoles were coming just a year later, they would have been significantly more powerful.

Just wish I could get my hands on a 3080 before Cyberpunk but it's looking extremely unlikely, the reseller prices on eBay are just daft and everywhere is sold out.

[Smithy]

Only nerds pc game

[user104658]

Only nerds pc game

That's just the excuse people use when they're too poor to maintain a good one so they have to buy a povvy subsidised mid-range PC with console branding on it to game at all :hee:.

Sony does keep luring me in with their damn exclusives though :fist:.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I just read that both the XBXSRSX and PS5 are rockin' somewhere around the equivalent of an RTX 2080 Super... but the already released (though impossible to buy anywhere :bawling: ) RTX 30- series outperforms the 20- series by a massive margin... an even bigger jump in performance than the GTX 9- series to the 10- series (which was huge).

So the consoles are lagging significantly behind high-end PC graphics before they've even released which I think might be a first :umm2:.

I wonder how it'll affect the generation. Like I said, the jump in performance is unusually big and if the consoles were coming just a year later, they would have been significantly more powerful.

Just wish I could get my hands on a 3080 before Cyberpunk but it's looking extremely unlikely, the reseller prices on eBay are just daft and everywhere is sold out.

https://i.gifer.com/3lMq.gif

[Black Dagger]

7TBPrYJDoDE

The UI. I think it looks visually impressive.

Love the hints bit. Too many times have I needed a walk through and youtube search suggestions spoils it for me.

[user104658]

The UI. I think it looks visually impressive.

Love the hints bit. Too many times have I needed a walk through and youtube search suggestions spoils it for me.

7TBPrYJDoDE

[Black Dagger]

Oh my bad lmao I thought I clicked youtube

[arista]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41F-2atOMyL._AC_SL520_.jpg

8K and 4K

[user104658]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/41F-2atOMyL._AC_SL520_.jpg



8K and 4KNo way the PS5/Xbox X will do 8k.

[bots]

i saw a review on the latest x box yesterday and it was less than complimentary, so the field is open for the PS5 if they haven't messed it up too

[user104658]

i saw a review on the latest x box yesterday and it was less than complimentary, so the field is open for the PS5 if they haven't messed it up tooIn what sense? The hardware is more or less identical parts in a different box. The UI etc. will be completely different of course.

[The Slim Reaper]

So Game is considered essential, right?

[bots]

i've set Amazon to notify me when they have stock in, i consider it essential

[LukeB]

i've set Amazon to notify me when they have stock in, i consider it essential

:laugh:

I do agree though! I would say entertainment stuff is essential as we gotta look after our mental health and have to entertain ourselves during lockdown and many more if that happens.

[Wizard.]

:laugh:

I do agree though! I would say entertainment stuff is essential as we gotta look after our mental health and have to entertain ourselves during lockdown and many more if that happens.

not if you already have a PS4 and a switch you tart!

[arista]

i've set Amazon to notify me when they have stock in, i consider it essential


Yes amazon UK
think Thursday Nov 19th
stock arrives of the Disc version PS5.

[The Slim Reaper]

Just got a call from Game. Have to go and pay before wednesday, then just show a receipt on release day.

Whilst bots is waiting for Amazon to let him know that ink for his typewriter is in stock.

[bots]

Just got a call from Game. Have to go and pay before wednesday, then just show a receipt on release day.

Whilst bots is waiting for Amazon to let him know that ink for his typewriter is in stock.

i last used a typewriter in 1982 :fist:

[user104658]

In all seriousness, what's the point of getting a PS5 at launch when there's **** all coming out for it for ages :think:

[Tom4784]

Spiderman is the only really tempting game at launch, but I can wait until February-April when RE8 is likely to come out.

I did have Cyberpunk pre-ordered until the latest delay for the PS4 but since there's a lot of reports of the current gen versions being problematic, I think I'll likely get Spiderman, Cyberpunk and RE8 as my first PS5 games.

[The Slim Reaper]

In all seriousness, what's the point of getting a PS5 at launch when there's **** all coming out for it for ages :think:

Well I play a lot of online NBA 2k which is my primary reason for upgrading on day 1, but I'll buy Spiderman and Valhalla too.

Why does anyone buy anything they don't need as an essential?

[user104658]

Well I play a lot of online NBA 2k which is my primary reason for upgrading on day 1, but I'll buy Spiderman and Valhalla too.



Why does anyone buy anything they don't need as an essential?

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly a PC gamer so I'm not shy about frivolous spends, I spent just under £800 on two monitors in July (a 32" 4k and a 28" 1440p 165hz) :joker:. I also will definitely be getting a PS5 long before any price drops etc... It's more having to put in extra effort to secure one I don't really understand, but then, I'm quite lazy. If I can't just go on a website and order current stock, then I can't really be arsed :umm2:.

That said, I'd have got one for Cyberpunk if I only had consoles, I suspect the PS4 version is going to be stripped back and will STILL have framerate issues.

[The Slim Reaper]

Don't get me wrong, I'm mostly a PC gamer so I'm not shy about frivolous spends, I spent just under £800 on two monitors in July (a 32" 4k and a 28" 1440p 165hz) :joker:. I also will definitely be getting a PS5 long before any price drops etc... It's more having to put in extra effort to secure one I don't really understand, but then, I'm quite lazy. If I can't just go on a website and order current stock, then I can't really be arsed :umm2:.

That said, I'd have got one for Cyberpunk if I only had consoles, I suspect the PS4 version is going to be stripped back and will STILL have framerate issues.

Game is about 15 minutes away from me and isn't in the city centre so it's completely hassle free. I parked outside and was in and out within 20 mins when I reserved. It's only lockdown thats forced the extra hassle. They're attaching raffle tickets to receipts, and pre-packaging everything the night before, so it'll actually be a lot quicker to pick up on release day, without the need for queuing and paying. £581 for the disc version, Morales, and valhalla ultimate edition.

[user104658]

Game is about 15 minutes away from me and isn't in the city centre so it's completely hassle free. I parked outside and was in and out within 20 mins when I reserved. It's only lockdown thats forced the extra hassle. They're attaching raffle tickets to receipts, and pre-packaging everything the night before, so it'll actually be a lot quicker to pick up on release day, without the need for queuing and paying. £581 for the disc version, Morales, and valhalla ultimate edition.

I'm exhausted just reading that! I will buy one when someone can bring it to my door and say "Here is your PS5 you lucky duck" ... and even then I'm feeling lethargic about the idea of having to answer the door.

[Scarlett.]

I'm getting mine at launch from Shopto, they had a 'register your interest' thing up before announcement, and the early you registered, the more likely you was to get on at launch

[The Slim Reaper]

My main reason for being a day one.

1324003532991684609

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

My main reason for being a day one.

1324003532991684609

God you’re so heterosexual it’s disgusting

[user104658]

I played a bit of basketball at school and was one of the best players in my year (though when I say this, bear in mind that I wasn't GREAT, I was just tall and a good shot when everyone else was terrible) but... I just don't really get the appeal of sports video games :umm2:. Like why would you not just go and play the actual sport.

[Scarlett.]

It's coming!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnHMREmW8Ac3G0J?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bots]

it's not in my friendly local amazon store yet :fist:

[Brother Leon]

My main reason for being a day one.

1324003532991684609

This and Miles Morales. Tomorrow can’t come soon enough.

[Scarlett.]

Demon's Souls for me :D

[Black Dagger]

Lol.

Game are *****. Took a tenner out of my account for delivery when I first preordered and never mentioned and now they've changed it to a free delivery service with Yodel. The worst courier in the country who can't even give me a tracking number (despite the fact Game have text me to say its with them) and have said they might not be able to deliver all orders tomorrow

****ing Doris at 48 is going to get it instead.

[Scarlett.]

Lol.

Game are *****. Took a tenner out of my account for delivery when I first preordered and never mentioned and now they've changed it to a free delivery service with Yodel. The worst courier in the country who can't even give me a tracking number (despite the fact Game have text me to say its with them) and have said they might not be able to deliver all orders tomorrow

****ing Doris at 48 is going to get it instead.

I heard about this, pretty shocking they charged people to use DPD, but then used Yodel anyway

[user104658]

https://i.imgur.com/QscceFm.png

[user104658]

An in-law of mine works IT for Littlewoods/Very... apparently some PS5 stock dropped this morning and sold out IN 45 SECONDS :joker: :joker:.

[Mystic Mock]

I played a bit of basketball at school and was one of the best players in my year (though when I say this, bear in mind that I wasn't GREAT, I was just tall and a good shot when everyone else was terrible) but... I just don't really get the appeal of sports video games :umm2:. Like why would you not just go and play the actual sport.

It's for those of us that are too bad at the real thing.:joker:

Being serious they can be fun, I have a **** ton of FIFA and PES Games in particular. Although NBA Live 16 for the Basketball Games was good too even if I can't defend very well.:laugh:

[user104658]

It's for those of us that are too bad at the real thing.:joker:

Being serious they can be fun, I have a **** ton of FIFA and PES Games in particular. Although NBA Live 16 for the Basketball Games was good too even if I can't defend very well.:laugh:

I played a bit of PES at Uni (because other people were playing it a lot) and to be fair, I guess these games can be fun if you're playing them against a friend so there's a bit of competition going on... I don't get the appeal vs computer opponent though.

By the end of my time at Uni the PS2 pretty much had Guitar Hero in it permanently though... and the GameCube with Smash Bros Melee. Don't think those discs left the consoles for about 18 months straight :joker:. The "living room consoles" that is, of course. I also had my own PC and PS2 in my room for REAL gaming :hehe: 🤓

[Scarlett.]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnLu4VuXIAAG46R?format=jpg&name=medium

[user104658]

God it really is ugly... I'm going to have to find a way to have it hidden away inside the cabinet when I get one, there's no way my wife will sign off on that sitting out in the open :joker:

[Ammi]

...the 24ct gold plated one is quite cool...:love:...I was looking at that in TiBB Apprentice when Nicky was selling them...

[The Slim Reaper]

God it really is ugly... I'm going to have to find a way to have it hidden away inside the cabinet when I get one, there's no way my wife will sign off on that sitting out in the open :joker:

And yet she married you :smug:

[user104658]

And yet she married you :smug:I am a work of art. 24ct gold plated human, Ammi said.

[Scarlett.]

I quite like the look of it, its the first console I've stood up since the PS2

[user104658]

I quite like the look of it, its the first console I've stood up since the PS2But surely that's because it doesn't lie down :suspect:

[The Slim Reaper]

It is pretty hideous, but as I'm installing games at the mo the worst thing about it for me is the ridiculously small storage.

[Scarlett.]

But surely that's because it doesn't lie down :suspect:

It doesnt fit in the cabinet :laugh:

[user104658]

It is pretty hideous, but as I'm installing games at the mo the worst thing about it for me is the ridiculously small storage.

It's because of the "next gen" SSD speed needed for the games. Apparently it has an upgrade slot for an m.2 drive that just involves popping off one side of the case though, I think it has to be one of the "newer" ones which are still on the pricier side, but basically in a year or two you should be able to chuck a 2gb storage upgrade in there for like £50. Flash storage prices drop fast as the technology progresses.

[user104658]

It doesnt fit in the cabinet :laugh:

I'm 99% sure it won't fit in mine either - but since I'm planning on getting the digital edition anyway... it might just be hidden behind the TV :umm2:.

[Scarlett.]

I'm 99% sure it won't fit in mine either - but since I'm planning on getting the digital edition anyway... it might just be hidden behind the TV :umm2:.

I have a white TV cabinet, so it actually looks better than the PS4 would :laugh:

I think the big winner about the PS5, and the digital edition even more so is, with no HDD, the amount of moving parts inside the machine is lessened significantly

[user104658]

I have a white TV cabinet, so it actually looks better than the PS4 would :laugh:

I think the big winner about the PS5, and the digital edition even more so is, with no HDD, the amount of moving parts inside the machine is lessened significantly

I've heard it's very quiet, although... it could be powered by a 747 engine and still be quieter than my 4 Pro. I generally use a headset which makes it less of an issue, but me and my wife played Little Hope a few weeks back and we had to use subtitles because the TV would have woken the kids if it had been up loud enough to be heard over the damn console. The neighbours must have thought we were hoovering at 1am.

[Scarlett.]

I've had both consoles on today for the same amount of time, doing the same task.

The Pro is red hot, the PS5 is cold, to warm. Also can't hear the PS5 at all, but Pro is humming away.

Honestly, everytime I played a HDR enabled game on the Pro, my room heated up so fast

[arista]

Amazon UK was to sell it from today
but its not on their site.


And others selling it
reports have said their sites have crashed.


https://news.sky.com/story/playstation-5-gamers-hit-by-long-queues-and-crashing-websites-on-consoles-release-date-12136247

[The Slim Reaper]

Have you got one yet, Arista?

[arista]

No

[Scarlett.]

https://i.imgur.com/yh4nTW1l.jpg

[bots]

you can buy a controller on amazon for the ps5 you don't yet have, so it's not all bad :spin:

[Black Dagger]

I've got one x

[Mystic Mock]

I played a bit of PES at Uni (because other people were playing it a lot) and to be fair, I guess these games can be fun if you're playing them against a friend so there's a bit of competition going on... I don't get the appeal vs computer opponent though.

By the end of my time at Uni the PS2 pretty much had Guitar Hero in it permanently though... and the GameCube with Smash Bros Melee. Don't think those discs left the consoles for about 18 months straight :joker:. The "living room consoles" that is, of course. I also had my own PC and PS2 in my room for REAL gaming :hehe: 🤓

To get the best out of the CPU opponents is to put their settings to Medium/Semi-Pro difficulty as it's not so easy that you end up walking every match, but not so ridiculously hard that it spoils the Game.

I've never played Guitar Hero, but it always catches my interest out of the more Casual Games.

Smash Bros Melee was the bees knees when I was a kid.:laugh:

[Ammi]

I've got one x

..:love:..enjoy...

[Scarlett.]

True next gen!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnNshvzWMAAT3KH?format=jpg&name=medium


Large picture warning!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnNshvzWMAAT3KH?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[Jake.]

Gutted, I really want one :(

[user104658]

I still can't wait to see what's POSSIBLE on the PS5, because whilst what I've seen so far all looks good, I still frankly haven't seen anything graphics wise that even begins to compete with TLOU2's "burning island". Obviously that wasn't "standard PS4", it was breathtakingly standout, along with a few scenes from Death Stranding, showcasing what I think are probably the absolute limits of the PS4... so I guess it'll be a few years until devs start really blowing minds with this gen's capabilities.

[Scarlett.]

I still can't wait to see what's POSSIBLE on the PS5, because whilst what I've seen so far all looks good, I still frankly haven't seen anything graphics wise that even begins to compete with TLOU2's "burning island". Obviously that wasn't "standard PS4", it was breathtakingly standout, along with a few scenes from Death Stranding, showcasing what I think are probably the absolute limits of the PS4... so I guess it'll be a few years until devs start really blowing minds with this gen's capabilities.

Demon's Souls is pretty damn impressive, especially for a launch title
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnNraqVXMAk3XoL?format=jpg&name=medium

[user104658]

I have to say, ebay prices are so crazy at the moment that if I'd pre-ordered and got a PS5 on launch day, I'd be VERY tempted to sell it on to a desperate parent with too much cash, set aside £400 for a new one in Spring, and pocket the extra :umm2:. I've seen them going for £800+

[bots]

i want one, but i will happily wait until they are in regular stock :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

OK, so.... wouldn't load up this morning. On screen said there was a storage issue, but then it cycled through to 100% and then turned itself off. Had a look on the internet and seems like it's an issue with the Miles game. Took me about 3 attempts at a factory reset in safe mode before it worked.

Just be careful if you're playing this game I was about level 15/16 and on about 55% completion.

It's been working perfectly since I rebooted without that game.

[user104658]

OK, so.... wouldn't load up this morning. On screen said there was a storage issue, but then it cycled through to 100% and then turned itself off. Had a look on the internet and seems like it's an issue with the Miles game. Took me about 3 attempts at a factory reset in safe mode before it worked.



Just be careful if you're playing this game I was about level 15/16 and on about 55% completion.



It's been working perfectly since I rebooted without that game.This is the other reason to hold off a bit on a new launch; letting you lot guinneapig the hardware and firmware issues so that they get patched up. This could be the game but a bad but of game code shouldn't be able to affect the whole system like that, sounds like a firmware issue with the PS5 software itself.

[The Slim Reaper]

This is the other reason to hold off a bit on a new launch; letting you lot guinneapig the hardware and firmware issues so that they get patched up. This could be the game but a bad but of game code shouldn't be able to affect the whole system like that, sounds like a firmware issue with the PS5 software itself.

Yeah, I'm contacting game in the morning to get this sent back and replaced. It takes abut 20 boot ups to get it to work properly. Pretty sure it's a hard drive issue, as it keeps trying to repair the storage (on a brand new machine!) and then just turns itself off. I've reset and rebuilt everything I possibly can, but this is a dodgy machine I have! I'll probably end up with a working PS5 after all the 2nd and 3rd wavers have got theirs! :laugh:

Fcuking bots will have his new zx spectrum from Amazon up and running before this piece of crap!

[user104658]

The "fancy" next gen SSD is one of the major selling points of the PS5, hopefully yours is just a rare dodgy one as there being a widescale problem with the SSD would be a disaster for Sony :umm2:.

Of course, on PC we've had m.2 NVMe SSD's for years and replaceable parts so don't have to worry about such things...

https://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/906/866/24e.gif

[bots]

Fcuking bots will have his new zx spectrum from Amazon up and running before this piece of crap!


https://media4.giphy.com/media/mM9HnZM5LSO0o/giphy.gif

[The Slim Reaper]

https://media4.giphy.com/media/mM9HnZM5LSO0o/giphy.gif

:laugh: :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

There's a chance I come out of this quids in. Been in contact with both game and playstation. Playstation say they're going to send me a new one out, they're just going through their system and I've provided evidence, so if they do that within the next couple of days, I can send my machine back to game for a full refund as it's faulty and end up with a free PS5 :smug:

[user104658]

There's a chance I come out of this quids in. Been in contact with both game and playstation. Playstation say they're going to send me a new one out, they're just going through their system and I've provided evidence, so if they do that within the next couple of days, I can send my machine back to game for a full refund as it's faulty and end up with a free PS5 :smug:

SURELY Sony would want you to send them the defective one if they're replacing...

...although my wife did almost get two brand new iPhones once, because the delivery fella left the first one in a recycle bin TWO DOORS DOWN and marked it as delivered. Phone company thankfully believed that it never turned up and sent a replacement - then about a week later, the neighbour (who had been off on holiday) knocks the door with the first one. We were honest though and sent it back to the phone company :hmph:

[The Slim Reaper]

SURELY Sony would want you to send them the defective one if they're replacing...

...although my wife did almost get two brand new iPhones once, because the delivery fella left the first one in a recycle bin TWO DOORS DOWN and marked it as delivered. Phone company thankfully believed that it never turned up and sent a replacement - then about a week later, the neighbour (who had been off on holiday) knocks the door with the first one. We were honest though and sent it back to the phone company :hmph:

I'm not sure; they didn't say anything about sending this one back (obviously that could change), and I've seen YT vids of them just sending them out to Americans who were on the earlier release date and had faulty machines.

Just waiting to hear from Sony again, so I'll definitely know one way or the other within the next day or 2. I think there have been a sh1tload of 5's that have been dodgy, so I think they're trying to minimise the negative publicity, by not making folks jump through hoops to get replacements.

[arista]

Some Amazon Packages
mean't to be PS5
have found a box of Cat Food,
and large package of Grain.

Amazon UK are looking into the thefts?


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/nov/20/thieves-swap-amazon-orders-of-playstation-5-for-rice-and-other-items

[Black Dagger]

I am loving it.

Got my first ever platinum with astros playroom lol

[user104658]

Some Amazon Packages
mean't to be PS5
have found a box of Cat Food,
and large package of Grain.

Amazon UK are looking into the thefts?


https://www.theguardian.com/games/2020/nov/20/thieves-swap-amazon-orders-of-playstation-5-for-rice-and-other-itemshttps://i.imgur.com/6FasUY3.jpg

:joker:

[user104658]

Apparently a massive stock in the UK (3500 consoles) has been scalped again... lol.

They're going for £850 (disc) and £700 (digital) on eBay at the moment... I can see this going on for a while. I honestly wish there was regulation to force online retailers to stop this from happening, i.e. flagging any suspicion of bulk ordering and stopping it wherever possible.

They're going to sell out to genuine buyers anyway, it's not like the retailer is going to miss out on a sale.

[arista]

Apparently a massive stock in the UK (3500 consoles) has been scalped again... lol.

They're going for £850 (disc) and £700 (digital) on eBay at the moment... I can see this going on for a while. I honestly wish there was regulation to force online retailers to stop this from happening, i.e. flagging any suspicion of bulk ordering and stopping it wherever possible.

They're going to sell out to genuine buyers anyway, it's not like the retailer is going to miss out on a sale.


The Proper Price


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoSVB4jXUAA0yRO?format=jpg&name=large

[arista]

1334358539721117696

Well done Liverpool

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I got one omg :bawling:

[Ammi]

...OMG...:lovedup:...look at you with your PlayStation 5, Scott..


...swagger, baby...:love:...

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6Zt481isNVuQI1l6/giphy.gif

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

They cancelled my order -_-

[Ammi]

....awwwww, Scott...that really sucks so much...:sad:...

[arista]

They cancelled my order -_-



This is the Problem stores get a limited amount in
there is a cut off point of the last few sold to loads


You have to keep trying

And only post if you have it in your hands


Amazon UK
thought they would have loads
by Nov 19th
But the Stock did not arrive

[arista]

This Morning ITV1HD Live

Has a PS5 on there show.
A Non disc one.
(not hers, it was loaned to her)

Debating Ebay Scams
Folks paid for a Photo
not the Unit.


Well done the Consumer Reporter Lady
finding out it's a worldwide stock problem.
And Shops like John Lewis
today have no new stock.

[bots]

i got an alert that Curry's got some stock in this morning. I immediately clicked on the link and there were 75,000 ahead of me in the queue. I got to the top of the queue and then the website crashed :laugh:

[Novo]

the worst console in the history of time and i am old enough to remember the dreamcast

[Scarlett.]

the worst console in the history of time and i am old enough to remember the dreamcast

But it's good, and so is the Dreamcast :shrug:

[Jake.]

the worst console in the history of time and i am old enough to remember the dreamcast

The Dreamcast was great. Didn’t sell well because of Sega’s own doings in the 90’s but still a great console, way ahead of its time.

[Novo]

Jet Set Radio and Shenmue were the only good games on it and even then the sequels on original xbox were 10x better

[user104658]

the worst console in the history of time and i am old enough to remember the dreamcast

You can't judge any console until its run is over (unless it's actually defective) because all that actually matters is the exclusives... and obviously the PS5 has very few titles thus far. The PS3 had a slightly ropey start but had delivered the InFamous series, Uncharted series, Heavy Rain, The Last Of Us etc. by closing. PS4 has delivered a much longer list of good exclusives. Can't see Sony dropping the ball this gen tbh.

[user104658]

i got an alert that Curry's got some stock in this morning. I immediately clicked on the link and there were 75,000 ahead of me in the queue. I got to the top of the queue and then the website crashed :laugh:

I was in the GAME queue for an hour or so yesterday, the progress bar moved maybe half a centimetre, then it came up with "Sorry dey all gone" :joker:.

I can still wait... it's not like there are any exclusives I want for it yet... I just have the cash burning a hole in my pocket I think.

[arista]

i got an alert that curry's got some stock in this morning. I immediately clicked on the link and there were 75,000 ahead of me in the queue. I got to the top of the queue and then the website crashed :laugh:


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[Scarlett.]

One of the lesser spoken about things is the Dualsense, it's a very impressive controller. The triggers have different amounts of pressure for different firearms in Hitman 3

[user104658]

The lack of availability is surely going to be a problem... Devs are going to be hesitant to release if no one has the console. It would be one thing if all the units sold were in the hands of gamers but at this point, countless have been stockpiled by eBay scalpers.

[arista]

Kent is getting PS5 stock

https://www.kentlive.news/whats-on/shopping/kent-ps5-restock-tesco-game-4911081

[user104658]

Kent is getting PS5 stock

https://www.kentlive.news/whats-on/shopping/kent-ps5-restock-tesco-game-4911081But it's full of Nu Covid yuck.

[arista]

[The PS5 was launched in November 2020 and has been
a hot ticket item ever since,
with Sony apologising for lack of stock and
promising to boost production.

Sony is yet to comment on the
latest shortages, said to be caused by
lack of AMD chips, but some experts has said
the PS5 drought could continue until July.
On a brighter note, Digitimes reports that Sony
is planning to ship between 16.8 million
and 18 million PS5 units in 2021.

Getting hold of PS5 accessories is
getting (a bit) easier, too
. Currys still has the PS5 Pulse 3D Wireless PS5
headset in stock for £89.99
(it could be worth grabbing one before it sells out again),
while Amazon has the DualSense Controller for £57.95.]


https://www.whathifi.com/news/ps5-restock-uk-retailer-game-tipped-for-new-wave-of-ps5-stock-this-week

[arista]

PS5 firmware update should fix 4K 120Hz HDR issue


https://www.whathifi.com/news/ps5-firmware-update-will-fix-4k-120hz-hdr-issue

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Arista when will i be able to get one from argos

[arista]

Arista when will i be able to get one from argos

They are saying in May
I assume they will have the electrical chips, they need, by then.

[arista]

There is Million Honda Cars held up
because of the same circuit type chips shortage.

Now they are trying to get circuit chips from Taiwan.

This also slows down the PS5 circuit chips shortage supply.
Many think it could add on another 3 months delay


CNN HD Business report.

[The Slim Reaper]

If arista won't play with me, this little dude will.

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

If arista won't play with me, this little dude will.

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Why are you so obsessed with my arista

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbavkbrXQAAlsVN.jpg

[Alf]

Does this mean I'll be able to purchase a PS3 for cheap now?

I never got upto 3, PS2 was the last one I had.

If I can get a PS3 for under £50, I might buy it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Does this mean I'll be able to purchase a PS3 for cheap now?

I never got upto 3, PS2 was the last one I had.

If I can get a PS3 for under £50, I might buy it.

I have a 3 with a few games and a couple of joypads you can have for nothing if you want.

[The Slim Reaper]

Why are you so obsessed with my arista

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbavkbrXQAAlsVN.jpg

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[Niamh.]

I have a 3 with a few games and a couple of joypads you can have for nothing if you want.

Isn't that very kind of you :love:

Luke's PS5 is finally due in next week I think

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn't that very kind of you :love:

Luke's PS5 is finally due in next week I think

Nice, that's good news, I bet he's looking forward to it.

My Ps3 is just gathering dust, so if anyone wants it just say. Just find a local post office or shop where I can send it (rather than a home address) and I don't mind paying the postage.

[user104658]

I sold my 3 when I got the 4,it's the only one I don't still have. I still have my OG psx in a box somewhere (sentimental value lol), and I have a PS2 hooked up to the telly via an hmdi converter because... SSX Trickyyyy! Not my original or wife's original... Actually I think we've had three over the years... I picked this one up at a Cash Converters for something like £20.

The 4 Pro will be sticking around too when I finally get a 5, as my eldest wants it for her room.

God knows when that will be though :think:.

[bots]

i got one on amazon a few mins ago :dance:

[Jake.]

It was there on amazon but wouldn’t add to my basket lol

[arista]

i got one on amazon a few mins ago :dance:



Is it the Non Disc one?


[We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock.
Platform For Display: PlayStation 5
Edition: Console]

[bots]

it's all sold out again now. It was the console version I got

[user104658]

Tbf I'm all sad that I can't get one but it's purely out of... A desire to have one... :joker:. There are still literally no exclusives I'm all that interested in yet so there's actually no point in me having one :think:. I was hyped for Mileser-man but from what I've heard, it's quite short (more like a large DLC than a full game) so I'm happy enough to wait for that. If a big Sony exclusive drops before I manage to get one I'll be quite annoyed.

That said; I think this probably works the other way. Sony isn't going to drop a big exclusive while there are still console shortages... they'd be more likely to delay the game if that happened.

[bots]

my first impressions are very positive. Good graphics, very responsive and the new controller is excellent

[Niamh.]

Luke got his on Tuesday, he's very happy with it

[Jake.]

Managed to pre-order one this morning for next week :flutter:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Managed to pre-order one this morning for next week :flutter:

How do you pre-order

[user104658]

How do you pre-order

I'm assuming he just meant "order", most of the big sites seem to be opening up orders for incoming stock before they actually get it, e.g. they say "order today, delivered by [X date in a week or two]" which is different to the usual ordering structure where you'd order something already in their warehouse... but it's not (technically) a pre-order.

[Jake.]

How do you pre-order

Yeah what TS said really, I’ve ordered for the next dispatch next week (they have it down as “pre-order”)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Does anyone know when stock is gonna drop it’s sf annoying sifting through ginormous news articles and they say nothing anyway

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/live-ps5-stock-updates-currys-19936279

Like.... a 10billion word article (one of MANY published almost daily) just for them to basically be like keep yer eyes peeled loov it’s coming!

Just shut the **** up?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Oh nvm i saw they put expected times up - that wasn’t there when i saw the article this morning teehee

[arista]

One place has them (They claim)
but they have put an extra £100 on the Price
£545

[user104658]

Hmmmm. I'd be tempted to pay £100 over asking price for a digital edition but they don't have those. Get it sorted Arista.

(Also I thought proper retailers upping the price wasn't legal? :think: makes me wonder if its even legit)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

https://gadgetspace.co.uk/product/playstation-5-console/


This place has them
but they have put an extra £100 on the Price
£545

I posted this in the stock checker discord and loads of people said it was fake/a scam

[arista]

I posted this in the stock checker discord and loads of people said it was fake/a scam


OK


I will remove the Link.

[user104658]

I finally got my hands on one... I caved and bought it with a bumped up price :worry:. Not from a mass scalper though, from some bloke who got one in pre-order and has been too busy with work to even hook it up :umm2: so decided to sell it on and buy one later when they're back in stock, so I don't feel TOO bad about it. It was also only £70 over RRP (some on ebay are going for RRP +£200).

ANYWAY. I finally have one! And then I was like, what can I actually play on it? But then I found out that Ghost of Toosh, which I bought on release but stopped playing after an hour because frankly the framerate was unplayable in my opinion, runs at 60fps 4k on the PS5 :omgno:. Smoothe as butter! So I shall finally be playing through that until the Nier Replicant remake releases at the end of April.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

The only reason i don’t wanna buy from a scalper/private seller is if owt goes wrong you’re basically stuck with it :worry:

[bots]

i had no early glitches like Slim experienced. So far so good

[Tom4784]

I got one last week from Argos, I've only had one slight issue yesterday when the screen went black for a few seconds and I got an error message, but then it went right back to normal.

[user104658]

The only reason i don’t wanna buy from a scalper/private seller is if owt goes wrong you’re basically stuck with it :worry:


If it’s brand new in box you can activate the warranty yourself and then just punt it to Sony if there’s a problem. Even better if you can get them to include original proof of purchase, but it’s not usually necessary, so long as no one has registered it online already. Also if it’s advertised as BNIB and turns out not to be then it was a misleading listing and you’ll probably get offered a discount (but can opt for full refund).

Not that I’m advocating going with a scalper, I’m hoping at some point the world figures out how to crack down on it because it’s just getting ridiculous. Apparently it’s well known that there scalpers out there with literally hundreds of consoles stacked in their basement, while consumers can’t buy one from retailers. Same thing is happening with high-end PC graphics cards. I’ve all but given up on getting my hands on one... and scalpers are selling for £1200+ :facepalm:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Death to scalpers love!

[Brother Leon]

Got mine at last from Amazon. Just transferring everything over.

[user104658]

Death to scalpers love!


I know, I made as sure as I could that mine was a genuine resell not a scalper. Had a convincing story, was only selling one, and was selling way under what scalpers are currently getting, so I’m as sure as I can be. I just don’t have time to constantly check back on various sites repeatedly so I was never going to get one through legit means :(.

[Niamh.]

Should have just pre ordered TS

[Brother Leon]

Kinda frustrating that I’ve already played most of the latest games already on on a PS4 as it took an eternity just to get a a PS5 for me.

[user104658]

Should have just pre ordered TS


Truuuue but no one could have foreseen this mess, haha. Even when there were supply issues at launch I though “ahh well _Im fine waiting until early 2021” but now we’re at April with no real end in sight to the shortages.

[user104658]

Does anyone have a Pulse 3D headset? Are they any good? My PS4 Gold headset is getting loads of interference when I try to use it with the PS5 (crackling/cutting out for a second every few mins). On the plus side, the PS5 seems to work with 3rd party USB wireless headsets (the PS4 did not) however my Razer headset (for the PC) isn't playing well with the PS5's 3D audio. It sounds fine if I switch off 3D audio but with it on, music is loud and bassy, sound effects somewhere in the middle and voice is very quiet. The PS4 headset on the other hand sounds great with the 3D audio on - when it's working :idc:.

[The Slim Reaper]

Does anyone have a Pulse 3D headset? Are they any good? My PS4 Gold headset is getting loads of interference when I try to use it with the PS5 (crackling/cutting out for a second every few mins). On the plus side, the PS5 seems to work with 3rd party USB wireless headsets (the PS4 did not) however my Razer headset (for the PC) isn't playing well with the PS5's 3D audio. It sounds fine if I switch off 3D audio but with it on, music is loud and bassy, sound effects somewhere in the middle and voice is very quiet. The PS4 headset on the other hand sounds great with the 3D audio on - when it's working :idc:.

You see, here's the problem!

I just use an old pair of apple iphone plug ins from a few years back, and they sound great to me, but you're far more techno minded when it comes to these things.

You'd probably tell me something about the dB level in the left ear causing long term vertigo, and I just want to kill some dude with an axe.

[user104658]

You see, here's the problem!

I just use an old pair of apple iphone plug ins from a few years back, and they sound great to me, but you're far more techno minded when it comes to these things.

You'd probably tell me something about the dB level in the left ear causing long term vertigo, and I just want to kill some dude with an axe.


:laugh: I used to be fine with any half decent headphones, but I think once you’ve got used to directional surround sound it’s hard to go back.

[user104658]

Speaking of techy geeky stuff - I love the controller haptic feedback, especially the triggers. Genuinely think the controller might be what properly elevates the PS5 above the competition this gen (alongside exclusives as always).

I just read something interesting though; apparently in December post-release they patched in more haptic feedback in AC Valhalla ... but completely left it out of the patch notes. Rumours circulating that it was deliberately left out on release, and brought back in "under the radar" so to speak, because Ubi didn't want it to be a "selling point" for the game on PS5 vs Xbxsrsx/PC as they have various deals with Mikeysoft.

Honestly can't wait to see how it's implemented by the big Sony exclusive devs 🤓

[bots]

yeah i like the controller a lot too, overall the ps5 is an obvious step up and thats becoming harder and harder to achieve

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

If i can’t get a ps5 before resi 8 comes out should i just get the ps4 version or wait for the ps5 version i’m conflicted

[user104658]

If i can’t get a ps5 before resi 8 comes out should i just get the ps4 version or wait for the ps5 version i’m conflicted


Just buy from a scalper, it was a top notch experience that I thoroughly recommend. The excitement that it might be a scam really adds to the experience. The delivery date from the courier kept changing, it said it would take a week to arrive, “will it actually be a sack of rice”, “will it really be BNIB or will it be a dodgy one with glitches”, “will it even arrive at all” BUT THEN there’s a knock at the door and it has arrived in 48h, and it really is new and sealed, and everything was fine. The drama, the highs and lows... an adventure not to be forgotten.

[Niamh.]

Just buy from a scalper, it was a top notch experience that I thoroughly recommend. The excitement that it might be a scam really adds to the experience. The delivery date from the courier kept changing, it said it would take a week to arrive, “will it actually be a sack of rice”, “will it really be BNIB or will it be a dodgy one with glitches”, “will it even arrive at all” BUT THEN there’s a knock at the door and it has arrived in 48h, and it really is new and sealed, and everything was fine. The drama, the highs and lows... an adventure not to be forgotten.[emoji28][emoji28]

Also have never heard the term "scalper" before