Sri Lanka: Terrorists suicide bombers Kill Over 300 in Churches & Hotels

[arista]

[Over 300 people have been killed
and 280 others injured after a
series of blasts hit three churches
and three hotels in Sri Lanka,
according to a hospital spokesman.
A security official said near-simultaneous
blasts hit the six locations,
causing multiple fatalities among
worshippers and hotel guests.
He said at least two of the church
attacks were suspected to have
been carried out by suicide bombers.]


https://news.sky.com/story/six-explosions-hit-sri-lanka-on-easter-sunday-11699701

A Evil Planned Attack using Suicide Bombers

https://e3.365dm.com/19/04/768x432/skynews-sri-lanka-explosions_4646203.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190421065258


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/04/21/07/article-6944119-12530756-887_964x543.jpg

[UserSince2005]

The slaughter of the Tamils is more horrific. But innocent civilians should not be targeted

[Cherie]

Difficult to know what to say apart from the world is full of sick individuals

[arista]

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[Oliver_W]

Jeez, attacking people in Churches on Easter ... how sick can some people get?

[arista]

Jeez, attacking people in Churches on Easter ... how sick can some people get?



Its well planned
This is attack on the Government

The Terrorists (Still mot named , at this time)
do not want outsiders in their nation.

British are in those hotels
we await to find out if any are dead.

[Oliver_W]

Stuff like this makes me not wanna go farther east than like, Dover, in case the last words I hear are ALLAHU ACKBAR...

[Twosugars]

Jeez, attacking people in Churches on Easter ... how sick can some people get?

+1

Nasty and vicious

Wonder who's behind it.

[Twosugars]

Stuff like this makes me not wanna go farther east than like, Dover, in case the last words I hear are ALLAHU ACKBAR...

That's not fair and you know it. Europe is no more Muslim than the UK. In fact in some countries there're hardly any Muslims.
Not to mention vast majority of Muslims are peaceful. And religious antrocities used to happen in Christan Europe in the past. A lot.

[arista]

The Government has put a 12 hour Curfew on,
and Cut the Internet
in that zone of Colombo City and Outskirts
, as a total of 8 Bombs in all now.
Police are checking camera feed to try to track the group of Evil Terrorists
that are behind this massacre
The Ministry Of Defense claim to have identified them?


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[bots]

certainly doesn't put Sri Lanka on the list of desirable tourist locations

[arista]

certainly doesn't put Sri Lanka on the list of desirable tourist locations



That could be what the Terrorist Group
wanted to happen

[Nicky91]

also few dutch among victims i read

[Kazanne]

Difficult to know what to say apart from the world is full of sick individuals

Yes Cherie I was just thinking how do we respond to something like this,speechless almost.

[Jessica.]

Just saw this on the news, it's very sad. One Portuguese person died there. Its very diverse there, I'm guessing a lot of countries will have lost someone.

[arista]

Just saw this on the news, it's very sad. One Portuguese person died there. Its very diverse there, I'm guessing a lot of countries will have lost someone.


Also
One Dutch Person
sadly confirmed dead.

[arista]

+1

Nasty and vicious

Wonder who's behind it.


The Ministry of Defense
have identified them as "Religious Extremists"
but no name for that Evil group , yet

[Crimson Dynamo]

i wonder what religion they are referring too as we can strike off Christian?

[arista]

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[Tom4784]

Awful but sadly not surprising, especially in the east where attacks like these are tragically all too common. Sri Lanka is surprising though, it seems like a rather random country to target.

I wonder which group will claim responsibility, IS is all but done for so I'd assume Al Qaeda would be behind it.


That's not fair and you know it. Europe is no more Muslim than the UK. In fact in some countries there're hardly any Muslims.
Not to mention vast majority of Muslims are peaceful. And religious antrocities used to happen in Christan Europe in the past. A lot.

Yup, honestly when it comes to terrorism in the UK, I'd worry more about Right Wing Terrorism, it's on the rise and it's only a matter of time before it becomes more widespread and common.

[Oliver_W]

Some LBC callers theorise that it's related to the upcoming elections over there.

That's not fair and you know it. Europe is no more Muslim than the UK. In fact in some countries there're hardly any Muslims.
Fair enough - east of Spain.

And religious antrocities used to happen in Christan Europe in the past. A lot.
Irrelevant.

[arista]

Awful but sadly not surprising, especially in the east where attacks like these are tragically all too common. Sri Lanka is surprising though, it seems like a rather random country to target.

I wonder which group will claim responsibility, IS is all but done for so I'd assume Al Qaeda would be behind it.




Yup, honestly when it comes to terrorism in the UK, I'd worry more about Right Wing Terrorism, it's on the rise and it's only a matter of time before it becomes more widespread and common.


Yes its Isis or Old Tamil Terrorist group.
Strange the Leader in Sri Lanka
do not want to name the group, yet ?


It all started at 9AM
many bombs at the same time

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yup, honestly when it comes to terrorism in the UK, I'd worry more about Right Wing Terrorism, it's on the rise and it's only a matter of time before it becomes more widespread and common.



how many UK citizens have been killed by Muslim terrorits in the last 5 years and how many by RW terrorists?


i doubt, imo, any Brit is worried about RW terrorism

[Redway]

Stuff like this makes me not wanna go farther east than like, Dover, in case the last words I hear are ALLAHU ACKBAR...

Using an incident involving fatalities to spew Islamophobia is sick. But then I don’t expect better from you.

[arista]

Sadly 5 British Dead
so far.


The hotels had so many nationals
in them.

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/04/768x432/skynews-sri-lanka-explosion_4646367.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190421124438
[Special task force officers have raided a
property following the Terrorist Attacks]

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/six-explosions-hit-sri-lanka-on-easter-sunday-11699701


The 5 British Dead
are 3 with British Passports
and 2 with Joint British /USA Passports

[Twosugars]

Some LBC callers theorise that it's related to the upcoming elections over there.


Fair enough - east of Spain.


Irrelevant.


Not necessarily irrelevant.
Islam is roughly 500 years younger than Christianity. If we assume that religions evolve in a simillar way and go through a period of violent zealotry then Islamist terrorists are equivalent to Christian zealots of the 15th and 16th centuries. Which would cover inquisition, religious wars in Europe and St. Bartholomew's Massacre in France where thousands of Hugenots were slaughtered in broad daylight. Even the then French King was taking potshots at people from his palace windows.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not necessarily irrelevant.
Islam is roughly 500 years younger than Christianity. If we assume that religions evolve in a simillar way and go through a period of violent zealotry then Islamist terrorists are equivalent to Christian zealots of the 15th and 16th centuries. Which would cover inquisition, religious wars in Europe and St. Bartholomew's Massacre in France where thousands of Hugenots were slaughtered in broad daylight. Even the then French King was taking potshots at people from his palace windows.

so you are saying we should not let this unevolved religion people into the UK as they are going to be violent?

[Twosugars]

we should carry on what we're doing, fighting extremism wherever it rears its head, Islam or far right, they share a lot tbh

[Crimson Dynamo]

we should carry on what we're doing, fighting extremism wherever it rears its head, Islam or far right, they share a lot tbh

well one is huge and the other is tiny by comparison so best we focus on the big one

as we are rightly doing

[Twosugars]

we have two eyes, we can watch both

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/FBD9/production/_106537446_053505266-1.jpg
[A bomb goes off as Special Task Force
personnel raid a home near Dematagoda in Colombo ]
[update : Sadly 3 of that Special Force Were killed, reported on AL JazeeraHD]


So far 7 Arrested


[Religion in Sri Lanka:
Theravada Buddhism is Sri Lanka's biggest religious group,
making up about 70.2% of the population, according to the most recent census.
It is the religion of Sri Lanka's Sinhalese majority. It is given primary place in the
country's laws and is singled out in the constitution.
Hindus and Muslims make up 12.6% and 9.7% of the population respectively.
Sri Lanka is also home to about 1.5 million Christians,
according to the 2012 census, the vast majority of them Roman Catholic.]
BBC Data

[arista]

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[Alf]

Stop killing people you horrible bastards!

[arista]

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The Ministry had a warning
a few weeks ago that a Radical Muslim Group would attack.
But it was not specified what kind of attack

https://e3.365dm.com/19/04/768x432/skynews-colombo-sri-lanka-bomb_4647019.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190422041151
[Officials have described the explosions as
a terror attack by religious extremists]

https://news.sky.com/story/sri-lanka-explosions-at-least-190-dead-and-400-injured-in-attacks-on-churches-and-hotels-11699695

[Cherie]

290 dead now

[bots]

290 dead now

it's a horrifying attack with every probability that it's ongoing. Seems to me that it had some high level support within the country too. People were well aware that things were being planned and did nothing, with leaders claiming they weren't informed. That doesn't ring true to me at all.

[arista]

it's a horrifying attack with every probability that it's ongoing. Seems to me that it had some high level support within the country too. People were well aware that things were being planned and did nothing, with leaders claiming they weren't informed. That doesn't ring true to me at all.


That's a not true
The ministry man said it was not specified
what type of attack was coming.


It was on GMBHD itv this morning
The BBC are also saying what you said

[bots]

That's a not true
The ministry man said it was not specified
what type of attack was coming.


It was on GMBHD itv this morning
The BBC are also saying what you said

don't you know an excuse when you hear it? There is no way an attack of this size went down in Sri Lanka without senior people being involved in it.

[arista]

don't you know an excuse when you hear it? There is no way an attack of this size went down in Sri Lanka without senior people being involved in it.


That would have to be proved.

[Cherie]

THREE children of ASOS billionaire Anders Holch Povlsen have been killed by suicide bombers in the Sri Lanka terror attacks.
A spokesperson for Povlsen – Scotland’s largest landowner – confirmed that three of his four children were among the 290 people killed after blasts hit churches and luxury hotels across the country on Sunday

[Kazanne]

THREE children of ASOS billionaire Anders Holch Povlsen have been killed by suicide bombers in the Sri Lanka terror attacks.
A spokesperson for Povlsen – Scotland’s largest landowner – confirmed that three of his four children were among the 290 people killed after blasts hit churches and luxury hotels across the country on Sunday

My God I cant imagine the pain that must cause,one is bad enough but three,heartbreaking.

[arista]

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[Cherie]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/breaking-sri-lanka-attack-tv-14441476

TV chef and daughter killed when a bomb was detonated in the breakfast area, she posted this picture just before she was killed

senseless barbarity

[arista]

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[arista]

Sadly 8 British nationals now dead

https://news.sky.com/story/six-explosions-hit-sri-lanka-on-easter-sunday-11699701

[Livia]

Lucky it wasn't mosques attacked or this story would have been overwhelming in the press..... already people are kind of trying to , if not justify it, then minimise it, bringing up the alt right where they took no part in this offense. When the alt Right carry out some atrocity I don't see anyone saying, yeah but.... Muslims. It's not a competition. And if it was, fundamentalist Islam would be winning. And if you don't believe that, take a look a America's most wanted list.

[Livia]

Not necessarily irrelevant.
Islam is roughly 500 years younger than Christianity. If we assume that religions evolve in a simillar way and go through a period of violent zealotry then Islamist terrorists are equivalent to Christian zealots of the 15th and 16th centuries. Which would cover inquisition, religious wars in Europe and St. Bartholomew's Massacre in France where thousands of Hugenots were slaughtered in broad daylight. Even the then French King was taking potshots at people from his palace windows.

Except this is the 21st Century. Are we supposed to wait for these savages to catch up to the rest of the world? How many gays are they going to throw off buildings before it's acceptable for us to say they're wrong instead of making excuses for them?

[Livia]

how many UK citizens have been killed by Muslim terrorits in the last 5 years and how many by RW terrorists?


i doubt, imo, any Brit is worried about RW terrorism

The Left aren't doing much to combat anti-Semitism... it's not just the far Right attacking synagogues. Labour has made anti-Semitism acceptable amongst its followers, while rushing to the defence of the Muslim community, many of whole are peaceful. Of course... the Jewish community are also peaceful to the point that we have no subgroup at war with the UK but still Jews are acceptable targets for Corbyn and his supporters.

[Sticks]

Except this is the 21st Century. Are we supposed to wait for these savages to catch up to the rest of the world? How many gays are they going to throw off buildings before it's acceptable for us to say they're wrong instead of making excuses for them?

And with comments like that you could face censure for spouting Islamophobic bigoted racism :nono:

Remember value their diversity

Consider how this fits in with the oppression and murders by those of the crusades.

We were told at work, never ever criticise political correctness, as it is trying to do the right thing.

If anyone disagrees, then they are an islamophobic bigoted racist.

Are you an islamophobic bigoted racist. :shocked:

[arista]

Sri Lanka attacks: 'International network' linked to bombings
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-48012085

[Twosugars]

Except this is the 21st Century. Are we supposed to wait for these savages to catch up to the rest of the world? How many gays are they going to throw off buildings before it's acceptable for us to say they're wrong instead of making excuses for them?
:nono:
I wasn't making any excuses. There are no excuses.
I was pointing out Christianity used to be barbaric too. In case some people forget, that's all. A historical point if you will.

[Livia]

And with comments like that you could face censure for spouting Islamophobic bigoted racism :nono:

Remember value their diversity

Consider how this fits in with the oppression and murders by those of the crusades.

We were told at work, never ever criticise political correctness, as it is trying to do the right thing.

If anyone disagrees, then they are an islamophobic bigoted racist.

Are you an islamophobic bigoted racist. :shocked:

I'm a realist.

I haven't got back as far as the crusades, I'm still smarting from the Holocaust.

[Livia]

:nono:
I wasn't making any excuses. There are no excuses.
I was pointing out Christianity used to be barbaric too. In case some people forget, that's all. A historical point if you will.

Christianity is still barbaric if you know where to look. They're just not bombing people and waging war on the West.

[Cherie]

A family from Essex where Mum and two kids were killed, Dad survived with minor injuries, this was in the hotel where the bastard blew himself up in the queue for breakfast

[Sticks]

Christianity is still barbaric if you know where to look. They're just not bombing people and waging war on the West.

It is not so much Christianity, more the so called adherents. Compare what Jesus did and the teachings in the New Testament with what the adherents you refer to are doing, and you will see the dichotomy between the two.

I once did a sort find myself obliged to conduct "internal affairs investigations" on two occasions. One party to this day, never knew they were under investigation or knew of the charge made against them. It is depressing how people purporting to follow Christianity can start to veer from it, even on a minor level. (For the record those I investigated, I cleared with no case to answer, and it was one of the accusers who was required to leave)

[Twosugars]

It is not so much Christianity, more the so called adherents. Compare what Jesus did and the teachings in the New Testament with what the adherents you refer to are doing, and you will see the dichotomy between the two.

I once did a sort find myself obliged to conduct "internal affairs investigations" on two occasions. One party to this day, never knew they were under investigation or knew of the charge made against them. It is depressing how people purporting to follow Christianity can start to veer from it, even on a minor level. (For the record those I investigated, I cleared with no case to answer, and it was one of the accusers who was required to leave)

:clap1:

[Cherie]

It is not so much Christianity, more the so called adherents. Compare what Jesus did and the teachings in the New Testament with what the adherents you refer to are doing, and you will see the dichotomy between the two.

I once did a sort find myself obliged to conduct "internal affairs investigations" on two occasions. One party to this day, never knew they were under investigation or knew of the charge made against them. It is depressing how people purporting to follow Christianity can start to veer from it, even on a minor level. (For the record those I investigated, I cleared with no case to answer, and it was one of the accusers who was required to leave)

I couldn't give two figs about your investigations, take this to a new thread and stop being so disrespectful

the blatant dismissal of families blown to pieces to you can pontifcate about your life :facepalm:

[arista]

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[LaLaLand]

Absolutely awful. :sad:

[arista]

The Government (one minister) there
now say this is in response
to the White Evil Terrorist of NZ

If only it was that simple?

[Cherie]

The Government there
now say this is in response
to the White Evil Terrorist of NZ

If only it was that simple?

If only

[Nicky91]

The Government there
now say this is in response
to the White Evil Terrorist of NZ

If only it was that simple?

this has nothing to do with that, these terrorists here well one of them had connections to ISIL

ISIL are a disgrace to the islamic religion, they are the reason some innocent muslims get beaten, spit at, treated disrespectfully

this new terror group is just the same, lowlife scum nothing more, lowest of the low



that terrorist in NZ, is a crazy mentally ill man, disgrace for christian catholic religion

[arista]

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[arista]

[Sri Lanka bombings were 'retaliation for Christchurch attack' - minister
At least 321 people, including eight Britons, were killed in a series of bombings at churches and hotels in Sri Lanka.]


https://news.sky.com/story/brother-and-sister-among-british-dead-in-sri-lanka-11701268

[Cherie]

[Sri Lanka bombings were 'retaliation for Christchurch attack' - minister
At least 321 people, including eight Britons, were killed in a series of bombings at churches and hotels in Sri Lanka.]


https://news.sky.com/story/brother-and-sister-among-british-dead-in-sri-lanka-11701268

The churches yes? what about the hotels which had guests of all faiths including their own

[arista]

The churches yes? what about the hotels which had guests of all faiths including their own


Yes its a Mega Attack with a
Large amount of Evil Suicide Walking bombers

[Livia]

How unthinkably awful for all the people who've lost loved ones, especially those who've lost children... the ASOS man, losing three of his four kids, I mean, how would you start to get over something like that?

[Nicky91]

yes very sad Livia

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this is footage from a bomb inside a van exploding, after bomb squad officials tried to defuse it, no injuries from this

[arista]

ISIS have claimed they did it.


Ref: CNN HD live

[Crimson Dynamo]

there is no way they could have organised this in the time since the NZ shootings

[arista]

there is no way they could have organised this in the time since the NZ shootings


That was just one View
Its now Confirmed Isis set it all up

[Cherie]

there is no way they could have organised this in the time since the NZ shootings

cop out isn't it, and people scrabbling to absolve themselves of blame because the didn't do their job properly and heed advance warning

[Sticks]

ISIS have claimed they did it.


Ref: CNN HD live

You mean it was not a CIA - Mossad false flag operation :shocked:

[Sticks]

I couldn't give two figs about your investigations, take this to a new thread and stop being so disrespectful

the blatant dismissal of families blown to pieces to you can pontifcate about your life :facepalm:

I was responding to Liva and showing from experience that adherents to a faith don't always follow the tenants of that faith, thus giving it a bad name.

[Twosugars]

I was responding to Liva and showing from experience that adherents to a faith don't always follow the tenants of that faith, thus giving it a bad name.

you wrote nothing wrong, Sticks

we need a wider perspective as well as talk about this atrocity, these things are not mutually exclusive, the opposite, they aid our understanding

[arista]

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[Cherie]

I was responding to Liva and showing from experience that adherents to a faith don't always follow the tenants of that faith, thus giving it a bad name.

if you only wanted to respond to Livia then send her a pm

[Cherie]

you wrote nothing wrong, Sticks

we need a wider perspective as well as talk about this atrocity, these things are not mutually exclusive, the opposite, they aid our understanding

Did you look for for a wider perspective on the NZ thread?

[arista]

Death Toll now is Sadly 321 , at this time.

[Twosugars]

Did you look for for a wider perspective on the NZ thread?

I did

[Twosugars]

if you only wanted to respond to Livia then send her a pm

and who appointed you a censor on this thread? :think:

[Livia]

you wrote nothing wrong, Sticks

we need a wider perspective as well as talk about this atrocity, these things are not mutually exclusive, the opposite, they aid our understanding

While we're seeking a wider perspective regarding the Islamists that slaughtered these people, let's bear in mind that the most wanted terrorists in the world right now are almost exclusively Muslim and no amount of focus on the fact that some Christians/Jews/Hindus etc. also do bad things can satisfactorily explain why Islamists brought about this monstrous, murderous carnage, other than they want to drag everyone back to the dark ages.

[Cherie]

I did

Maybe you can post it for me as I am struggling to find any post where you are trying to excuse the terrorist in question on that occasion and claim a wider perspective

I found this posted by you though, and it applies equally on here as there



don't worry about my head

worry about your own conscience

calling out terrorism is the honest thing to do, not burying your head in the sand and pretending it's something else

[Twosugars]

Maybe you can post it for me as I am struggling to find any post where you are trying to excuse the terrorist in question on that occasion and claim a wider perspective

I found this posted by you though, and it applies equally on here as there



don't worry about my head

worry about your own conscience

calling out terrorism is the honest thing to do, not burying your head in the sand and pretending it's something else

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

[Oliver_W]

Not necessarily irrelevant.
Islam is roughly 500 years younger than Christianity. If we assume that religions evolve in a simillar way and go through a period of violent zealotry then Islamist terrorists are equivalent to Christian zealots of the 15th and 16th centuries. Which would cover inquisition, religious wars in Europe and St. Bartholomew's Massacre in France where thousands of Hugenots were slaughtered in broad daylight. Even the then French King was taking potshots at people from his palace windows.
Still not relevant.
If one person is a murderer at 19, it doesn't mean we should overlook other murders committed by 19 year olds.

[Twosugars]

Still not relevant.
If one person is a murderer at 19, it doesn't mean we should overlook other murders committed by 19 year olds.

That's true if I was advocating overlooking. But I'm not.

[Cherie]

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

its not religion per se, its extremism and I don't think we need to dig too deep to understand that

[Twosugars]

its not religion per se, its extremism and I don't think we need to dig too deep to understand that

We need to dig deep enough to cut it off at its roots. In this case promote such a reading of Islam which invalidates killing of non-believers

[arista]

The Total is now 359 that have died

[Cherie]

One of the bombers in the Sri Lankan Easter Sunday attacks studied in the UK and Australia, the country’s deputy defence minister revealed on Wednesday.

“We believe one of the suicide bombers studied in the UK and then later on did his postgraduate in Australia, before coming back to settle in Sri Lanka,” said Ruwan Wijewardene, without naming the suspect. He said one of the bombers was a woman.

He told a press conference in the capital, Colombo, that most of the suicide bombers were “well-educated and come from middle or upper-middle class,” adding that they were “financially quite independent.” Some held law degrees,” he added.

Mr Wijewardene’s comments came as the police confirmed that the death toll for Sunday’s massacre had risen to 359.

The attacks were claimed on Tuesday by the Islamic State militant group, which did not give any evidence to support its claim. If true, it would make it one of the worst attacks linked to the group outside Iraq and Syria.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/24/sri-lanka-suicide-bomber-studied-uk/


all well educated, that throws a spanner in the works doesn't it

[Livia]

Since when trying to understand how religion drives people to terrorism is excusing it?

If only you felt the same about other kinds of terrorists, but it looks like it's just the Muslims you're trying to understand. and what makes me laugh about your attempts to minimise what happened, is that the kind of fundamentalists who carried out these attacks would be outraged if they thought a gay man was speaking up for them.

[Livia]

We need to dig deep enough to cut it off at its roots. In this case promote such a reading of Islam which invalidates killing of non-believers

We? Who is this 'we' of which you speak?

You surely mean that moderate Muslims need to dig deep. Unless you're thinking of intervening in a religion you know little or nothing about.

[Twosugars]

We? Who is this 'we' of which you speak?

You surely mean that moderate Muslims need to dig deep. Unless you're thinking of intervening in a religion you know little or nothing about.

Of course it has to be led by moderate Muslims.
I said we, bc I see the involvement of European and US intelligence agencies in this too. I'm sure WE, the West, have plenty of Islam scholars etc to be involved. We are talking about Western Muslims too.

[Twosugars]

If only you felt the same about other kinds of terrorists, but it looks like it's just the Muslims you're trying to understand. and what makes me laugh about your attempts to minimise what happened, is that the kind of fundamentalists who carried out these attacks would be outraged if they thought a gay man was speaking up for them.

Livia, as a lawyer you can do better than trot out demagogy that trying to understand an issue means excusing it. So crime profilers and criminologists approve of crime bc they spend their time trying to understand? Geez

The rest of your post is just nonsense, not even trying to answer it.

[Livia]

Livia, as a lawyer you can do better than trot out demagogy that trying to understand an issue means excusing it. So crime profilers and criminologists approve of crime bc they spend their time trying to understand? Geez

The rest of your post is just nonsense, not even trying to answer it.

Yes I'm a lawyer. That's about all you know about me. You're neither a profiler not a criminologist I'd be willing to bet. You think that the intelligence services should be in involved in helping Muslims understand their own holy book.

Why is the rest of my post nonsense? To me, and maybe I'm alone in this, you do seem to be making excuses for them, and as you're a gay man, that surprises me.

[Twosugars]

Yes I'm a lawyer. That's about all you know about me. You're neither a profiler not a criminologist I'd be willing to bet. You think that the intelligence services should be in involved in helping Muslims understand their own holy book.

Why is the rest of my post nonsense? To me, and maybe I'm alone in this, you do seem to be making excuses for them, and as you're a gay man, that surprises me.

Of course intelligence services should be involved. They have people on the ground. We need to use local influencers etc to reach as many as possible.

Again, let me state it cleary: I do not support their actions and do not excuse them. Not just as a gay man, but as a human being.
I'm not a profiler or criminologist, but that's the bend I have when it comes to any issue, trying to understand. Understand why. I can't help it :shrug:

[Livia]

Of course intelligence services should be involved. They have people on the ground. We need to use local influencers etc to reach as many as possible.

Again, let me state it cleary: I do not support their actions and do not excuse them. Not just as a gay man, but as a human being.
I'm not a profiler or criminologist, but that's the bend I have when it comes to any issue, trying to understand. Understand why. I can't help it :shrug:

The intelligence services are not staffed with social workers. They're already undermanned and overstretched and now you think they should do outreach work? It would be wonderful if we could actually get somewhere by negotiation, or by preaching a kinder Islam... but Islamic terrorists despise us, and they certainly don't want anything from us, so personally, I think that the Muslim faith needs to think of a way of combating the violence.

[Twosugars]

The intelligence services are not staffed with social workers. They're already undermanned and overstretched and now you think they should do outreach work? It would be wonderful if we could actually get somewhere by negotiation, or by preaching a kinder Islam... but Islamic terrorists despise us, and they certainly don't want anything from us, so personally, I think that the Muslim faith needs to think of a way of combating the violence.
Some people will be beyond reach and those should be taken out of the equation: captured or killed. But vast majority, including potential recruits should be reached one way or another.
The intelligence services should get more money anyway, but in this case it also makes economic sense. It'd be cheaper than fighting wars.
I'd trust the intelligence community to run this, deploying all the tools of the trade: from propaganda through influence all the way to assassination.
Of course Quran and its reading is only part of the problem. There are also political motivations at play. Hitting at financial resources and those who fund them is another.
But as far the masses go it's Quran and its interpretation, followed by political grievances.

[arista]

The problem they have it was a Isis boss(based in Syria) in charge of these Killers , all local Muslims were used.

[arista]

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Posting again
a Proud Group Photo
with the Isis banner behind them

[bots]

The government have issues a warning not to travel to Sri Lanka unless absolutely necessary .... no ****, guess everyone was planning to go their next holiday

[arista]

The government have issues a warning not to travel to Sri Lanka unless absolutely necessary .... no ****, guess everyone was planning to go their next holiday


Yes its a now a
No Go Zone
Change the holiday
Go to Tunisa

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-issues-sri-lanka-travel-warning-to-britons-after-bombings-11703373

[Sticks]

How about holidays in the UK, you do not even have to fly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yep stay in the UK, much nicer

[Cherie]

How about holidays in the UK, you do not even have to fly.

Yep stay in the UK, much nicer

Not travelling abroad is hardly a surefire way of staying safe as the number of deaths on UK roads every day will attest to

[arista]

How about holidays in the UK, you do not even have to fly.


But it can be more Expensive at home

[Cherie]

But it can be more Expensive at home

and its nice to see some of the world

me and Arista jetting off to foreign climes while Sticks and LT sit in a traffic jam and inhale the fumes on the M4?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not travelling abroad is hardly a surefire way of staying safe as the number of deaths on UK roads every day will attest to

a damn site better than just about any other country in the world

5000 people die a month on Chinas roads and it will be worse in India if they kept good stats

[Cherie]

a damn site better than just about any other country in the world

5000 people die a month on Chinas roads and it will be worse in India if they kept good stats

but the point is you could meet your fate anywhere, its not like not travelling will keep you any safer

[Crimson Dynamo]

but the point is you could meet your fate anywhere, its not like not travelling will keep you any safer

you could but you can meet it a lot quicker going to godforsaken places

[Nicky91]

Yep stay in the UK, much nicer

cause nothin bad happens in UK :idc:


*looks at Manchester terror attack, Grenfell tower fire*


oof

[Nicky91]

what i mean to say, bad things can happen in any country around the world

you can go to countries like sri lanka, but attacks like these make us be more careful, but we shouldn't be too afraid to go on holiday, cause then the terrorists win if we show fear

[Crimson Dynamo]

what i mean to say, bad things can happen in any country around the world

you can go to countries like sri lanka, but attacks like these make us be more careful, but we shouldn't be too afraid to go on holiday, cause then the terrorists win if we show fear

The Foreign office has warned to NOT go to Sri Lanka AT ALL as its too dangerous

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/25/foreign-office-advises-uk-citizens-not-to-travel-to-sri-lanka

do keep up

[UserSince2005]

Apaz they over counted the number of people who died, its not 350+ its 250. Messy sri sris.

[Sticks]

and its nice to see some of the world

me and Arista jetting off to foreign climes while Sticks and LT sit in a traffic jam and inhale the fumes on the M4?

Actually I avoid those traffic jams by taking the train :dance:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1121660563644305409/5R4ZQvFL?format=jpg&name=600x314
[Sri Lanka terror attack mastermind was
Zahran Hashim, the mastermind of the
Sri Lanka attacks, was one of two suicide
bombers who blew themselves
up at the Shangri-La hotel,
the country's President has said. ]

[Kazanne]

Apaz they over counted the number of people who died, its not 350+ its 250. Messy sri sris.

It was because their was several body parts which sounds gruesome, but they had to match them together ,so that's why the miscount.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/04/dutch-tourists-on-sri-lanka-flown-home-ministry-advice-is-for-essential-travel-only/

dutch tourists trapped in sri lanka are being flown home today

[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1121660563644305409/5R4ZQvFL?format=jpg&name=600x314
[Sri Lanka terror attack mastermind was
Zahran Hashim, the mastermind of the
Sri Lanka attacks, was one of two suicide
bombers who blew themselves
up at the Shangri-La hotel,
the country's President has said. ]

well at least he blew himself up so that is something

[Beso]

If this is what they do in retaliation to the Christchurch attack then God help the whole world if we aren't all horrified and saddened by the next one...God forbid there is.

Bloody disgraceful if they use that excuse.

[UserSince2005]

It was because their was several body parts which sounds gruesome, but they had to match them together ,so that's why the miscount.

Ah ok makes sense, I just assumed they were bad at counting

[Beso]

Ah ok makes sense, I just assumed they were bad at counting

That's the diane abbot thread pal.