View Full Version : 2019 will be Nigel Farage's year. THE BREXIT PARTY
But what are their policies? Where is their manifesto?
To vote for the Brexit Party is to be an uninformed voter because they haven't made their policies clear, they haven't said much of anything so how can an informed person support such a nothing party when there's no real information about them? People are voting for them based on headlines and Nigel Farage and that's just uninformed AF.
I like the edge not making a manifesto brings...it's new and exciting...
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 11:19 AM
I like the edge not making a manifesto brings...it's new and exciting...
So you don't know what you're actually voting for.
So you don't know what you're actually voting for.
Do we ever?
Do they stick to thier manifestos anyway!!..no.
Like I've said, I'm voting for them cause of what the big 2 have done...or not done as the case me be.
My choice, my vote...not that I'm voting though.
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 11:22 AM
Nigel has stated that as Manifestos have proven over the years to be baseless lies he will not use that term, ever
Its a change in Politics - not the mess we have now
If you watch his interviews he explains this all very well
8.10
3AwKLOLB4Qg
Nicky91
22-05-2019, 11:24 AM
Do we ever?
Do they stick to thier manifestos anyway!!..no.
Like I've said, I'm voting for them cause of what the big 2 have done...or not done as the case me be.
My choice, my vote…not that I'm voting though.
my parents have voted before, but not anymore since we don't believe our votes make any difference
Liam-
22-05-2019, 11:26 AM
There are no manifestos, he gonna wait until he’s voted in to make his plans public, he’s using the anger of these people to make sure he gets in so he can do whatever he wants when he’s there, it’s a scary thought that people will blindly put someone into power without knowing what they’re gonna do with said power, it’s truly a new age in politics and not for the good.
Nicky91
22-05-2019, 11:27 AM
There are no manifestos, he gonna wait until he’s voted in to make his plans public, he’s using the anger of these people to make sure he gets in so he can do whatever he wants when he’s there, it’s a scary thought that people will blindly put someone into power without knowing what they’re gonna do with said power, it’s truly a new age in politics and not for the good.
america when they made donald trump president tea
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 03:34 PM
Do we ever?
Do they stick to thier manifestos anyway!!..no.
Like I've said, I'm voting for them cause of what the big 2 have done...or not done as the case me be.
My choice, my vote...not that I'm voting though.
People who take the time to find out who they are voting for usually have a clear idea of what the politicians plans are. Even if it doesn't end up going that way, people should vote on policies and manifestos, not for something so shallow as a protest because supporting something you don't even know out of retaliation against another party is just ignorant. Go look up the history of protest votes and how well they turn out.
It's your choice but I can critique it as much as I please such is the wonder that is freedom of speech.
Nigel has stated that as Manifestos have proven over the years to be baseless lies he will not use that term, ever
Its a change in Politics - not the mess we have now
If you watch his interviews he explains this all very well
8.10
3AwKLOLB4Qg
So he's just spouting inane bull**** hoping that the people who can't think for themselves basically go along with what he says although he has no policies, plans or anything useful to say.
What a grim time we live in that people are so willing to follow this conman despite the obvious signs because it doesn't benefit them to acknowledge the truth of him.
He's a useless rat that only aggravates situations for his own benefit and has a history of running away when a vote goes his way so he doesn't have to have a part in actually enacting what he pushed to bring forth.
He''s a man of words and nothing else. All he can do is rile people up and leave them stranded when he gets what he wants and people will blind themselves to that truth so willingly. What a grim present we live in.
Twosugars
22-05-2019, 03:42 PM
A rat :hee: yup that label fits perfectly
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 03:54 PM
Personal insults to Nigel and calling the British people who vote for him names?
As Nigel says, it's that unpleasantness that had made him the success he is today.
Nicky91
22-05-2019, 03:55 PM
Personal insults to Nigel and calling the British people who vote for him names?
As Nigel says, it's that unpleasantness that had made him the success he is today.
:laugh2: omg him saying that, the delusion stench
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 03:57 PM
Personal insults to Nigel and calling the British people who vote for him names?
As Nigel says, it's that unpleasantness that had made him the success he is today.
More pearl clutching and avoiding the fact that you don't know what you are voting for.
Nigel Farage is successful because people are willing to vote in ignorance which is proven given the support that the Brexit Party has despite not sharing any policies on anything.
People are literally voting for nothing when they vote for that party.
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 04:02 PM
I think I am right in saying over 100, 000 people have joined at 25 pounds a time. Via PayPal. It's an amazing commitment and achievement. Remarkable given the state of English mainstream politics
Twosugars
22-05-2019, 04:02 PM
Personal insults to Nigel and calling the British people who vote for him names?
As Nigel says, it's that unpleasantness that had made him the success he is today.
Life is too short to indulge arseholes
Twosugars
22-05-2019, 04:03 PM
I think I am right in saying over 100, 000 people have joined at 25 pounds a time. Via PayPal. It's an amazing commitment and achievement. Remarkable given the state of English mainstream politics
Not to mention foreign donations being investigated as we speak.
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 04:09 PM
I think I am right in saying over 100, 000 people have joined at 25 pounds a time. Via PayPal. It's an amazing commitment and achievement. Remarkable given the state of English mainstream politics
There's a lot of gullible people that are easily conned out there.
If a party is unwilling to detail it's policies or release a manifesto than any support for it will always be uninformed since you can't make informed decisions on things you don't know.
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 04:14 PM
The Brexit party will present a “full slate” of policy ideas once next week’s European elections are over, Nigel Farage has pledged, as he ramped up his attacks on the BBC following a bad-tempered television interview on Sunday.
Addressing a party rally in West Yorkshire, Farage said that up until the European elections, where his party leads in the polls, he would talk only about Brexit-related matters.
From the guardian, surprised you chaps have missed this tbh
Liam-
22-05-2019, 04:16 PM
So they’ll only reveal what they’re going to do once they’re elected, after they’ve been elected, so the people who are voting for them, are doing so without knowledge of what they’re going to do, it’s literally voting based on ignorance
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 04:26 PM
The party are dealing with tomorrow first, it's a bizarre situation we should not have been in thanksto the current political mess. This is a chance to change that.
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 04:33 PM
The Brexit party will present a “full slate” of policy ideas once next week’s European elections are over, Nigel Farage has pledged, as he ramped up his attacks on the BBC following a bad-tempered television interview on Sunday.
Addressing a party rally in West Yorkshire, Farage said that up until the European elections, where his party leads in the polls, he would talk only about Brexit-related matters.
From the guardian, surprised you chaps have missed this tbh
Missed what? Excuses?
They have no policies because it's nothing more than a shallow excuse for publicity. They don't have plans or policies or anything because this is all just an attention grab by Nigel Farage.
Anybody that goes along with a party unwilling to state their intentions and policies until after an election should probably be used to getting scammed because that's what this is.
The party are dealing with tomorrow first, it's a bizarre situation we should not have been in thanksto the current political mess. This is a chance to change that.
Nah, it's only a chance for the public to prove how uninformed they are for voting for a party with no policies or manifestos.
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 04:43 PM
Well I'm afraid your predictions about Trump all fell by the wayside so I can't put too much stead inwhast you say about Nigel and his ground breaking new party.
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 04:59 PM
Well I'm afraid your predictions about Trump all fell by the wayside so I can't put too much stead inwhast you say about Nigel and his ground breaking new party.
I'll take your deflecting for what it is, you throwing in the towel because you can't form a counterargument against what I'm saying.
Also I wasn't wrong about Trump, he's a crook that's flailing to hold onto power like you're flailing to find a point.
Nicky91
22-05-2019, 05:03 PM
exactly, it does just seem very logical the average voter wants to be well informed what they are voting for
people simply cannot vote based on promises and hopes
Twosugars
22-05-2019, 05:13 PM
Well I'm afraid your predictions about Trump all fell by the wayside so I can't put too much stead inwhast you say about Nigel and his ground breaking new party.
what gave an idea that trump is some sort of success? :laugh:
you can't polish that turd no matter how hard you try
Crimson Dynamo
22-05-2019, 05:14 PM
He has reduced racism in America. I think we can all hail that as a success?
Tom4784
22-05-2019, 05:22 PM
He has reduced racism in America. I think we can all hail that as a success?
Nice spin there, buddy. I like how you use a dubious study to ignore all the criminal acts and all the ways he ****ed up as president but this topic isn't about the soon to be ex president.
It's about the human/rat hybrid that's currently conning a bunch of gullible people into voting for him with no known policies or manifestos in place.
arista
23-05-2019, 01:26 AM
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He has reduced racism in America. I think we can all hail that as a success?
Some people obviously don't want to see that LT..maybe it upsets them that racism is going down.
If you mean that more and more people in America are putting individual differences aside and concentrating on the greatest threat to America, their president, then that is absolutely true
Stupid...ridiculously stupid....
Tom4784
23-05-2019, 11:50 AM
If you mean that more and more people in America are putting individual differences aside and concentrating on the greatest threat to America, their president, then that is absolutely true
Yup, Trump's uniting people... in opposition of him.
Crimson Dynamo
23-05-2019, 11:56 AM
With the public set to vote in the European Parliament elections today, the latest polls show that Nigel Farage's Brexit Party is likely to gain the most votes in the UK.
Although the vote takes place in the UK today, the results are not expected until Sunday evening due to most other EU member states casting their votes that day.
The Conservatives are on course for their lowest ever share of the vote in a nationwide ballot and could even slip into fifth place behind the Greens.
Establishment parties are expected to suffer across the EU, both at the hands of the populist-Right as well as resurgent liberal parties.
The result is likely to be a more fragmented European Parliament, with the centre-Right EPP and centre-Left S&D forecast to lose their combined majority.
(Telegraph)
Nicky91
23-05-2019, 12:14 PM
Some people obviously don't want to see that LT..maybe it upsets them that racism is going down.
D:
I-
of course i want to see an end to racism, but Trump doing that just seems a bit too unrealistic to be true
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 09:15 AM
2019 will be Nigel Farage's year. THE BREXIT PARTY
arista
27-05-2019, 09:22 AM
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chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 09:27 AM
Wow what a brilliant night for the Brexit party :thumbs2: and an embarrassing night for Labour
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 09:37 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/27/08/article-7074237-14005496-132_308x440.jpg
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 10:17 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/27/08/article-7074237-14005496-132_308x440.jpg
:clap1: Looks good LT !!
Matthew.
27-05-2019, 10:19 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/27/08/article-7074237-14005496-132_308x440.jpg
https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/9/9d/Maggie_Simpson.png
arista
27-05-2019, 10:20 AM
Brexit Party MEP's 29
Then
Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
UKIP 0
Liam-
27-05-2019, 10:21 AM
https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/9/9d/Maggie_Simpson.png
:skull::skull::skull:
Cherie
27-05-2019, 10:26 AM
Brexit Party MEP's 29
Then
Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0]
UKIP 0
:joker:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 10:30 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/27/08/article-7074237-14005496-132_308x440.jpg
Go Scotland! :dance:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 10:37 AM
https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/9/9d/Maggie_Simpson.png
:joker::joker::joker:
user104658
27-05-2019, 10:49 AM
Brexit Party MEP's 29
Then
Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
UKIP 0
To break this down into a more meaningful figure:
Definitely Pro Brexit: 29
Definitely AntiBrexit: 36
??????? Who knows: 13
If you split that "question mark" group evenly (and that's being generous, the fact that 10 are Labour I think indicates that more are probably remain)
Pro Brexit: 35.5 MEP's
Anti Brexit: 42.5 MEP's
I wonder who gets the head and who gets the legs :think:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 10:54 AM
Mr Farage was the major winner as he was elected in the South East region and said: "History has been made. This is just the beginning."
He delivered a stark warning to the Tories and Labour as he claimed The Brexit Party was ready to inflict the same damage at the next general election.
(most media)
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 10:59 AM
Mr Farage was the major winner as he was elected in the South East region and said: "History has been made. This is just the beginning."
He delivered a stark warning to the Tories and Labour as he claimed The Brexit Party was ready to inflict the same damage at the next general election.
(most media)
With his idea of replacing NHS with insurance system? :laugh3:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 11:00 AM
:dance:To break this down into a more meaningful figure:
Definitely Pro Brexit: 29
Definitely AntiBrexit: 36
??????? Who knows: 13
If you split that "question mark" group evenly (and that's being generous, the fact that 10 are Labour I think indicates that more are probably remain)
Pro Brexit: 35.5 MEP's
Anti Brexit: 42.5 MEP's
I wonder who gets the head and who gets the legs :think:
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 11:02 AM
With his idea of replacing NHS with insurance system? :laugh3:
D: yeah why a hospital when life Insurance is more important
:joker: :joker: don't make me laugh Nige no really don't :bored:
Vicky.
27-05-2019, 11:03 AM
Mr Farage was the major winner as he was elected in the South East region and said: "History has been made. This is just the beginning."
He delivered a stark warning to the Tories and Labour as he claimed The Brexit Party was ready to inflict the same damage at the next general election.
(most media)
Its possible of course, but I really think this is fantasy. Kind of similar to how UKIP was going to sweep the boards, and ended up with like..3 seats or something?
Will be interesting to see how it goes though. I have for a long tme wished there were different players to the usual tory v labour, and it seems its possible the lib dems have regained some support (I really do think, without the coalition they would have had a chance at being in on their own, they were gaining steadily until then) and this brexit party..maybe.
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 11:05 AM
He has single handidly revitalised English politics and history will be kind to him I think.
user104658
27-05-2019, 11:06 AM
With his idea of replacing NHS with insurance system? :laugh3:
Honestly I feel like the only explanation for a politician suggesting that this would be a good policy, is a backdoor pay-deal with the big US based insurers and pharma. The US healthcare system is universally agreed to be one of the most unequal and ridiculous in the western world. Literally everywhere except the US itself thinks it's a humanitarian disaster. Even in the US itself most people either conceed that it's a bad system, or have been successfully duped into believing that universal healthcare systems are "low quality".
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 11:10 AM
He has single handidly revitalised English politics and history will be kind to him I think.
he couldn't have done it without his followers on twitter, his radio show fanbase, all other members of the brexit party
so don't feed nigel's ego pls :umm2:
Smithy
27-05-2019, 11:11 AM
He has single handidly revitalised English politics and history will be kind to him I think.
The modern day Maggie thatcher :love:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 11:11 AM
He reminds me of Maggie in her pomp
:flutter:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 11:12 AM
Honestly I feel like the only explanation for a politician suggesting that this would be a good policy, is a backdoor pay-deal with the big US based insurers and pharma. The US healthcare system is universally agreed to be one of the most unequal and ridiculous in the western world. Literally everywhere except the US itself thinks it's a humanitarian disaster. Even in the US itself most people either conceed that it's a bad system, or have been successfully duped into believing that universal healthcare systems are "low quality".
I'd like to see the faces of elderly brexit voters when they hear about this fave policy of Nige:laugh:
arista
27-05-2019, 11:14 AM
The modern day Maggie thatcher :love:
There has be loads of Merged Photos
On TV News
arista
27-05-2019, 11:15 AM
With his idea of replacing NHS with insurance system? :laugh3:
Thats not relevant
as he is not in Power in the UK
yet
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 11:23 AM
Thats not relevant
as he is not in Power in the UK
yet
we know he will be in power, as people just blindly vote for him :rolleyes:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 11:34 AM
https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/53625?crop=16_9&width=640&signature=_0TsHpT5h6qqIoTa-PklNHHBReU=
Listen live to Nigel Farage on FM, DAB, online at lbc.co.uk, on the LBC App or saying 'play LBC' on your favourite smart speaker.
arista
27-05-2019, 11:35 AM
we know he will be in power, as people just blindly vote for him :rolleyes:
Not if we Leave Your Buggering EU
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 11:36 AM
https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/53625?crop=16_9&width=640&signature=_0TsHpT5h6qqIoTa-PklNHHBReU=
Listen live to Nigel Farage on FM, DAB, online at lbc.co.uk, on the LBC App or saying 'play LBC' on your favourite smart speaker.
oh god, wish people would ignore Nige the creep, maybe then he would fade away into retirement and politics would be great again in UK
but sadly i can only hope for that :(
Farage really puts me off the UK
arista
27-05-2019, 11:37 AM
https://images.lbc.co.uk/images/53625?crop=16_9&width=640&signature=_0TsHpT5h6qqIoTa-PklNHHBReU=
Listen live to Nigel Farage on FM, DAB, online at lbc.co.uk, on the LBC App or saying 'play LBC' on your favourite smart speaker.
Yes a Great Live Show tonight at 6PM
perfect for a Bank holiday
Hard Working Nigel
arista
27-05-2019, 11:44 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1132963588136685570/OLiTxD5X?format=jpg&name=orig
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 11:45 AM
oh god, wish people would ignore Nige the creep, maybe then he would fade away into retirement and politics would be great again in UK
but sadly i can only hope for that :(
Farage really puts me off the UK
who do you admire in British politics
lets have say 3 names?
Oliver_W
27-05-2019, 12:00 PM
To break this down into a more meaningful figure:
Definitely Pro Brexit: 29
Definitely AntiBrexit: 36
??????? Who knows: 13
If you split that "question mark" group evenly (and that's being generous, the fact that 10 are Labour I think indicates that more are probably remain)
Pro Brexit: 35.5 MEP's
Anti Brexit: 42.5 MEP's
I wonder who gets the head and who gets the legs :think:
Are you counting Labour and the Conservatives as "definitely anti-Brexit" even though it's in their manifestos to respect the referendum result?
arista
27-05-2019, 12:05 PM
Loose Women ITV1HD
showing old clips to fill their show
just included from some time ago Nigel Farage
as a guest.
Typical LWHD Editor.
Cherie
27-05-2019, 12:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1132963588136685570/OLiTxD5X?format=jpg&name=orig
:joker: what a joke they are, they will have to merge with the Lib Dems
Vicky.
27-05-2019, 12:06 PM
Are you counting Labour and the Conservatives as "definitely anti-Brexit" even though it's in their manifestos to respect the referendum result?
Looks like Labour and Conservative are under 'who knows'..which is about right really given both seem split.
arista
27-05-2019, 12:08 PM
:joker: what a joke they are, they will have to merge with the Lib Dems
LibDems may not need them
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 12:08 PM
How did Tommy do, is what I want to know?
Where is Tommy in all this?
Could one of his fans here update us?
Vicky.
27-05-2019, 12:10 PM
How did Tommy do, is what I want to know?
Where is Tommy in all this?
Could one of his fans here update us?
:hehe:
arista
27-05-2019, 12:12 PM
How did Tommy do, is what I want to know?
Where is Tommy in all this?
Could one of his fans here update us?
He is not Part of the Brexit Party
Bugger all to do with this thread
Matthew.
27-05-2019, 12:13 PM
How did Tommy do, is what I want to know?
Where is Tommy in all this?
Could one of his fans here update us?
I was watching the results come in last night, he came last in his area and everybody laughed at him :joker:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 12:17 PM
I was watching the results come in last night, he came last in his area and everybody laughed at him :joker:
Laughed at him? :worry: Hope his security was gentle with them. Tommy doesn't like being ridiculed :nono: :hehe:
arista
27-05-2019, 12:19 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7khCHnXoAA0Owu.jpg
user104658
27-05-2019, 12:20 PM
Are you counting Labour and the Conservatives as "definitely anti-Brexit" even though it's in their manifestos to respect the referendum result?
:umm2: Read it again Oliver, Labour (10) and Conservatives (3) make up the "???" group that I've split down the middle. I say that's "generous" because I suspect more than half of the Labour vote will be down to "lifelong voting patterns" - always have and always will vote labour - but would probably not vote "leave" in an EU vote.
I have literally no idea how you came to the conclusion that I put the Labour and Tory votes as all anti-Brexit :think:
Vicky.
27-05-2019, 12:23 PM
I have literally no idea how you came to the conclusion that I put the Labour and Tory votes as all anti-Brexit :think:
A lot on twitter seem to be doing all they can to make out hard brexit won this by a landlslide. Accusing others of manipulating the votes while..manipulating the votes.
The only way to do it (as you did), when estimating on this, is to split Labour and Tories down the middle, as thats how they seem. But I would agree that Labour are more anti brexit in general, but splitting evenly is clearly the fair way to do it. Not to..as I have seen...put Tories in hard brexit and put Labour in their own category to make out that Hard brexit 'won' :joker:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 12:52 PM
i think a lot on twitter an face book are pissed they called the Euro ref wrong 3 years ago, they called Trump wrong when he won, they called the GE wrong when the tories won and they now have to endure Nigel winning again
Its an awful lot of defeats in a row and for some perhaps too much to take?
Vicky.
27-05-2019, 12:55 PM
i think a lot on twitter an face book are pissed they called the Euro ref wrong 3 years ago, they called Trump wrong when he won, they called the GE wrong when the tories won and they now have to endure Nigel winning again
Its an awful lot of defeats in a row and for some perhaps too much to take?
:suspect: Its the other side manipulating results :laugh: Otherwise you may have a point.
I am rather enjoying the meltdowns from those who said the Brexit party would do nothing, and the conspiracy theories that have popped up on my FB feed though. Even though obviously, I am a leftie. Still fun to watch the hell on from those who cannot take that others have a different opinion.
user104658
27-05-2019, 01:05 PM
i think a lot on twitter an face book are pissed they called the Euro ref wrong 3 years ago, they called Trump wrong when he won, they called the GE wrong when the tories won and they now have to endure Nigel winning again
Its an awful lot of defeats in a row and for some perhaps too much to take?
I mean... the referendum result was a shock, Trump was a shock to most but I personally feel by that point the "tides" were starting to look pretty clear (hence betting on him winning). I don't think these EU election figures are a shock to anyone at all? They're pretty much as expected, surely.
People will try to argue that they show an appetite for remain. People will try to declare it a "Farage Win" and an indication that there's an appetite for hard Brexit.
What they show in reality is exactly the things we already know:
1) The country is still split almost exactly down the middle on Brexit.
2) Brexiteers are still split on whether they want a deal, or hard Brexit.
3) People have become disillusioned with the mainstream parties.
4) Scotland wants nothing to do with this Westminster shambles :hee:.
arista
27-05-2019, 01:51 PM
"Scotland wants nothing to do with this Westminster shambles" Posted by Scottish Toy Soldier
TS you are stuck in it.
you can not get a Scottish 2nd vote.
The New PM
will not waste time with your Demands
as you are part of the UK by LAW
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 02:01 PM
"Scotland wants nothing to do with this Westminster shambles"
TS you are stuck in it.
you can not get a Scottish 2nd vote.
The New PM
will not waste time with your Demands
as you are part of the UK by LAW
Don't be so sure sunshine.
Any attempts like that will only strengthen the independence movement
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 03:40 PM
Nigel Farage demands seat at Brexit negotiating table and says European elections victory 'is just the beginning'
Nigel Farage has demanded a seat at the Brexit negotiating table and warned
Labour and the Tories his party’s victory in the European Parliament elections “is
just the beginning”.
The leader of The Brexit Party said winning 28 seats at a national poll after
launching in April demonstrated the level of voter anger over the Government’s
failure to take the UK out of the European Union.
Mr Farage said he and his MEPs stood ready to “take responsibility” for Brexit
and join negotiations with Brussels.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/05/27/TELEMMGLPICT000198628693_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlbe rWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfy2dmClwgbjjulYfPTELibA.jpeg?imwidt h=400
“The new date is the 31st of October. We in the Brexit Party have got men
and women of considerable business experience, we want to be part of that
negotiating team, we want to take responsibility for what is happening and
we are ready to do so.
“I hope the Government is listening. I have to say this: If we don’t leave on
October 31 then the scores you have seen for The Brexit Party today will be
repeated in a general election and we are getting ready for it.”
He added: “History has been made. This is just the beginning.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/27/nigel-farage-demands-seat-brexit-negotiating-table-says-european/
top comment:
When Trump comes to visit 3 June who do you think he wants to see?
Option 1 A failed outgoing PM
Option 2 An indecisive aged Marxist
Option 3 Nigel Farage
Answer:
The Leader of the most powerful and richest Nation in the world will want to speak with our man Sir Nigel Farage
arista
27-05-2019, 03:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7laHYMXsAI1LpS.jpg
The Biggest Party of the MEP's
Our Brexit Party 29 MEP
The Winners
arista
27-05-2019, 04:20 PM
Well Done Anne
the new Brexit Party MEP.
If Boris (if he is the new PM) says he will do a No deal Exit
she said she and Leader Nigel will believe that when it happens
on October the 31st.
Which is why Nigel
is getting ready for the Next General Election.
As the Conservatives keep Failing.
Ref: Radio4 PM Live.
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 04:42 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7laHYMXsAI1LpS.jpg
The Biggest Party of the MEP's
Our Brexit Party 29 MEP
The Winners
The bigots
arista
27-05-2019, 04:48 PM
The bigots
Thats your view
Smithy
27-05-2019, 04:49 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7laHYMXsAI1LpS.jpg
The Biggest Party of the MEP's
Our Brexit Party 29 MEP
The Winners
Look at all that gammon
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 04:51 PM
Nigel Farage demands seat at Brexit negotiating table and says European elections victory 'is just the beginning'
Nigel Farage has demanded a seat at the Brexit negotiating table and warned
Labour and the Tories his party’s victory in the European Parliament elections “is
just the beginning”.
The leader of The Brexit Party said winning 28 seats at a national poll after
launching in April demonstrated the level of voter anger over the Government’s
failure to take the UK out of the European Union.
Mr Farage said he and his MEPs stood ready to “take responsibility” for Brexit
and join negotiations with Brussels.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/politics/2019/05/27/TELEMMGLPICT000198628693_1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqpVlbe rWd9EgFPZtcLiMQfy2dmClwgbjjulYfPTELibA.jpeg?imwidt h=400
“The new date is the 31st of October. We in the Brexit Party have got men
and women of considerable business experience, we want to be part of that
negotiating team, we want to take responsibility for what is happening and
we are ready to do so.
“I hope the Government is listening. I have to say this: If we don’t leave on
October 31 then the scores you have seen for The Brexit Party today will be
repeated in a general election and we are getting ready for it.”
He added: “History has been made. This is just the beginning.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/27/nigel-farage-demands-seat-brexit-negotiating-table-says-european/
top comment:
When Trump comes to visit 3 June who do you think he wants to see?
Option 1 A failed outgoing PM
Option 2 An indecisive aged Marxist
Option 3 Nigel Farage
Answer:
The Leader of the most powerful and richest Nation in the world will want to speak with our man Sir Nigel Farage
:bored: Nigel only wants a MEP seat to troll in european parliament
and he ain't a sir honestly :fan:
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 04:52 PM
The bigots
exactly
Withano
27-05-2019, 04:53 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7laHYMXsAI1LpS.jpg
The Biggest Party of the MEP's
Our Brexit Party 29 MEP
The Winners
“We’re not racist, we have a black friend”
Matthew.
27-05-2019, 04:53 PM
The bigots
https://i.imgur.com/3a7oVlY.jpg
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 04:55 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3a7oVlY.jpg
poor Ann being used as a weapon to lure in followers (they know she had been well liked on strictly and cbb)
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 04:56 PM
All winners in life and great news for the country
arista
27-05-2019, 04:58 PM
All winners in life and great news for the country
Bang On Right LT
Nicky91
27-05-2019, 04:59 PM
All winners in life and great news for the country
and all from the UK woops haha that's a lie :joker:
one from czech republic, one from denmark
yep wanting nothing to do with europe, a brexit and calling yourselves ''brexit party'' and hiring 2 from other european countries
makes perfect sense :unsure:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 05:06 PM
https://i.imgur.com/3a7oVlY.jpg
Political dinosaur
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 05:17 PM
Dinosaurs were on Earth for between 165 and 177 million years. humans have not even been on the earth for 0.5 a million.
Dinosaurs were clever, successful adaptive and harmonious
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 05:20 PM
i think a lot on twitter an face book are pissed they called the Euro ref wrong 3 years ago, they called Trump wrong when he won, they called the GE wrong when the tories won and they now have to endure Nigel winning again
Its an awful lot of defeats in a row and for some perhaps too much to take?
Self serving folk who cannot believe they can possibly get so much so wrong and so often .....Im so glad I got them all right !! But then again Im a clever dick !! :shrug:
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 05:22 PM
poor Ann being used as a weapon to lure in followers (they know she had been well liked on strictly and cbb)
The Brexit party would have had the same winning seats WITHOUT Anne, voters voted for their SINGLE POLICY and that is to get us out of the corrupt EU as soon as possible
arista
27-05-2019, 05:23 PM
Nigel Live On LBC now
Elliot
27-05-2019, 05:25 PM
The Brexit party would have had the same winning seats WITHOUT Anne, voters voted for their SINGLE POLICY and that is to get us out of the corrupt EU as soon as possible
Too bad the majority of voters want to remain :hehe:
Crimson Dynamo
27-05-2019, 05:37 PM
Too bad the majority of voters want to remain :hehe:
i am afraid that inaccuracy was debunked quite some time ago
:joker:
Twosugars
27-05-2019, 05:49 PM
i am afraid that inaccuracy was debunked quite some time ago
:joker:
Keep on deluding yourself
Keep on deluding yourself
There will be more pro leave eu members fighting the uks corner now...and that's all that matters...hopefully we don't leave at the end of October thus ensuring farage gains the keys to number ten.
arista
27-05-2019, 06:06 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7l2osfXYAAWXYu.jpg
arista
27-05-2019, 06:08 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1132792041145085956/xSbjbSOS?format=jpg&name=orig
Liam-
27-05-2019, 06:09 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7l2osfXYAAWXYu.jpg
When set 8 kids take a class photo
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 06:39 PM
Too bad the majority of voters want to remain :hehe:
Oh dear how wrong you are :joker: Take off the staunch Lib Dem and Green party voters and you will learn that you are TOTALLY wrong
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 06:43 PM
Keep on deluding yourself
I think you will find its OTHERS who are deluded, not my learned friend
Matthew.
27-05-2019, 06:49 PM
Oh dear how wrong you are :joker: Take off the staunch Lib Dem and Green party voters and you will learn that you are TOTALLY wrong
Ah yeah, is that the same as if you take away the Brexit party voters you will learn that most people want to remain?
Ah yeah, is that the same as if you take away the Brexit party voters you will learn that most people want to remain?
Most voters perhaps....but certainly not most of the population.
Elliot
27-05-2019, 06:51 PM
:laugh:Oh dear how wrong you are :joker: Take off the staunch Lib Dem and Green party voters and you will learn that you are TOTALLY wrong
You ignoring entire parties in statistics because you don’t agree with them personally is me ignoring all my problems hoping they’ll go away
chuff me dizzy
27-05-2019, 06:55 PM
Ah yeah, is that the same as if you take away the Brexit party voters you will learn that most people want to remain?
Really ?Are seriously thinking someone will believe this ^^^ :joker: Word of advice to all the sad Labour voters who were too lazy to put down their X Box controller to go to vote or are too young to vote ,next time back up your party of choice as we Brexit party voters did ,then you won't be so bitter :shrug:
The percentage points may drift a bit either way for or against brexit, but that's not really the point. The country is pretty evenly split to both sides.
I have said 100 times now that the real options are no deal brexit and revoke article 50. I don't personally think that parliament will actively vote for either of those options, so given that, it has to go to the people in the form of a referendum. If there is another ref, and I think that is the only way of breaking the parliament fiasco, then there should be no fudging. It should be a straight choice .... no deal brexit or remain. Thats what the ref should have been first time around.
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 07:19 AM
I wish people ignored jpegs on facebook and twitter and listened to actual debates by the people involved on the radio - they go into far more detail, explore points fully and get much needed voter interaction from all sides.
I think a real problem with the "remain" side is that they tend to get a lot of info from social media sound-bites that are often proven to be fake news?
I wish people ignored jpegs on facebook and twitter and listened to actual debates by the people involved on the radio - they go into far more detail, explore points fully and get much needed voter interaction from all sides.
I think a real problem with the "remain" side is that they tend to get a lot of info from social media sound-bites that are often proven to be fake news?
i think a big problem with the leave side is the fake social media accounts, the disinformation and the funding corruption
Livia
28-05-2019, 09:36 AM
I heard so many remainers say that the EU elections will be a kind of second referendum, allowing people to demonstrate with their vote that they want to remain.
How wrong they all were. Again.
Oliver_W
28-05-2019, 09:55 AM
I heard so many remainers say that the EU elections will be a kind of second referendum, allowing people to demonstrate with their vote that they want to remain.
How wrong they all were. Again.
So the figures were:
Brexit Party 29
Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
Breaking this down into pro- and anti- Brexit
Pro
Brexit Party 29
Labour 10*
Conservatives 3*
Total = 42
Anti
Lib Dems 15
Green 7
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
Total = 26
*According to their manifestos only.
Oliver_W
28-05-2019, 09:56 AM
I wish people ignored jpegs on facebook and twitter and listened to actual debates by the people involved on the radio - they go into far more detail, explore points fully and get much needed voter interaction from all sides.
I think a real problem with the "remain" side is that they tend to get a lot of info from social media sound-bites that are often proven to be fake news?
Ehh. Pictures can say a thousand words, on principal I have no problem with boiling an argument down to a "meme", if the message is carried effectively and more importantly - if a link to the substantial argument it's based on is provided in the description.
And let's not pretend either side is immune to fake news.
Elliot
28-05-2019, 10:07 AM
I heard so many remainers say that the EU elections will be a kind of second referendum, allowing people to demonstrate with their vote that they want to remain.
How wrong they all were. Again.
But like, they weren’t wrong?
Matthew.
28-05-2019, 10:10 AM
Really ?Are seriously thinking someone will believe this ^^^ :joker: Word of advice to all the sad Labour voters who were too lazy to put down their X Box controller to go to vote or are too young to vote ,next time back up your party of choice as we Brexit party voters did ,then you won't be so bitter :shrug:
Why do you think I wanted Labour to win?
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 10:25 AM
the worst thing about the vote is 73% could not be bothered to vote
user104658
28-05-2019, 10:25 AM
So the figures were:
Brexit Party 29
Lib Dems 15
Labour 10
Green 7
Conservatives 3
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
Breaking this down into pro- and anti- Brexit
Pro
Brexit Party 29
Labour 10*
Conservatives 3*
Total = 42
Anti
Lib Dems 15
Green 7
SNP 3
Plaid Cymru 1
Change UK 0
Total = 26
*According to their manifestos only.Going by their manifesto pledges is nonsense though, assuming that Conservative and especially Labour voters are pro Brexit is just nonsense. There's no way around that. Doing otherwise can only ever be a deliberate attempt to manipulate the figures.
Again, the EU elections showed only very basic things:
1) Still pretty much a 50/50 stalemate on Brexit in general.
2) Nowhere near a majority on wanting no-deal Brexit.
3) People are very unhappy with Conservative and Labour.
All of these attempts to "illustrate" anything other than that, by either side, by doing gymnastics with the figures is just propaganda.
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 10:27 AM
Going by their manifesto pledges is nonsense though, assuming that Conservative and especially Labour voters are pro Brexit is just nonsense. There's no way around that. Doing otherwise can only ever be a deliberate attempt to manipulate the figures.
Again, the EU elections showed only very basic things:
1) Still pretty much a 50/50 stalemate on Brexit in general.
2) Nowhere near a majority on wanting no-deal Brexit.
3) People are very unhappy with Conservative and Labour.
All of these attempts to "illustrate" anything other than that, by either side, by doing gymnastics with the figures is just propaganda.
it illustrates what a futile exercise a re-ref would be
Livia
28-05-2019, 10:27 AM
But like, they weren’t wrong?
If you, like, take a look at Oliver's post above, it will explain it for you clearly. How pro-Brexit = 42 seats and how anti-Brexit = 24 seats.
Oliver_W
28-05-2019, 10:28 AM
Going by their manifesto pledges is nonsense though, assuming that Conservative and especially Labour voters are pro Brexit is just nonsense. There's no way around that. Doing otherwise can only ever be a deliberate attempt to manipulate the figures.
I'm not assuming they are "ideologically" pro-Brexit, but they've committed to honour the result of the referendum.
user104658
28-05-2019, 10:29 AM
the worst thing about the vote is 73% could not be bothered to vote:suspect: you need to double check your working there young master Trumpet...
(Its 63%)
But yes even then its still pretty sire that 2/3 of the adult population didn't even vote. Also, given that the turnout for the referendum (and any second referendum) or a General Election would definitely be MUCH higher... Using the EU results to assume *anything at all* is pretty sketchy.
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 10:30 AM
:suspect: you need to double check your working there young master Trumpet...
(Its 63%)
But yes even then its still pretty sire that 2/3 of the adult population didn't even vote. Also, given that the turnout for the referendum (and any second referendum) or a General Election would definitely be MUCH higher... Using the EU results to assume *anything at all* is pretty sketchy.
yes 63 i mean
user104658
28-05-2019, 10:35 AM
I'm not assuming they are "ideologically" pro-Brexit, but they've committed to honour the result of the referendum.Assuming that those who voted have any idea at all what the party pledges are, which I would say is dubious let's be honest here. A huge chunk of Labour and Tory voters vote Labour and Tory because A) they've always voted for them and B) their parents voted for them.
This was actually exit polled, I might be able to find a link.
But basically people were polled on the reasons that they vote for various parties. In England, the top result by a mile for Brexit Party, Greens, Lib Dems etc was "Their stance on Brexit" or "I'm unhappy with the main party that I usually vote for".
The top result by a mile for both Tory and Labour was "Because I always vote for that party".
Which says a lot in my opinion. To be honest it says a lot about the shambles of modern democracy. Most people too apathetic to vote at all, and then a chunk of those who do vote are so disengaged that they go along out of obligation, and mark a box out of habit.
Livia
28-05-2019, 10:36 AM
Maybe some people decided not to vote because, why bother? A democratic vote means hardly anything to a big section of people in this country.
user104658
28-05-2019, 10:37 AM
If you, like, take a look at Oliver's post above, it will explain it for you clearly. How pro-Brexit = 42 seats and how anti-Brexit = 24 seats.It's 29 "Pro Brexit" and 13 "intentions unknown".
Claiming anything else is disingenuous.
Vicky.
28-05-2019, 10:37 AM
Yeah the voting for them because you always have, or because your parents did makes 0 sense to me. I have always voted Labour, but thats because I agreed with their stance on most things. Now that I don't, I won't vore Labour, but have no idea WHO to vote for. I vfoted lib dem in this as it was mainly about brexit, but, in a GE I don't think I would. Voting Labour even though I think they are rubbish at the minute just because I always have, and my parents (and probably grandparents) voted for them is just ridiculous IMO.
user104658
28-05-2019, 10:38 AM
Maybe some people decided not to vote because, why bother? A democratic vote means hardly anything to a big section of people in this country.Of course there are obvious reasons for the apathy and obvious reasons for it being worse than ever (over the last year Parliament has looked nothing short of incompetent)... I personally don't blame anyone for just not wanting to think about it at all, its starting to feel like a waste of time and energy, but isn't that indicative of a pretty huge political crisis?
Livia
28-05-2019, 10:42 AM
It's 29 "Pro Brexit" and 13 "intentions unknown".
Claiming anything else is disingenuous.
And you don't draw anything from that? Strange.
Livia
28-05-2019, 10:43 AM
Of course there are obvious reasons for the apathy and obvious reasons for it being worse than ever (over the last year Parliament has looked nothing short of incompetent)... I personally don't blame anyone for just not wanting to think about it at all, its starting to feel like a waste of time and energy, but isn't that indicative of a pretty huge political crisis?
We needed another indicator of a crisis like we need another hole in the head.
user104658
28-05-2019, 11:41 AM
And you don't draw anything from that? Strange.
I think it's highly unlikely that a re-referendum result would be any different to the first one. Close to 50-50, with no real hope of breaking the political deadlock. No matter what happens this year or next, whether we leave the EU or not, it's a split that's not going to go away any time soon.
Maybe some people decided not to vote because, why bother? A democratic vote means hardly anything to a big section of people in this country.
Ive been surrounded by old people and young people for 4 days now...almost all didn't vote for that reason.
They were mostly snp supporters and Scottish conservative..I would say I've spoken to about 40 to 50 different people who have all said the exact words you just printed....WHY BOTHER.
user104658
28-05-2019, 11:59 AM
Ive been surrounded by old people and young people for 4 days now..
What are you up to Parmy :think:
Livia
28-05-2019, 12:03 PM
What are you up to Parmy :think:
I thought it best not to ask... you know Parmy...
Tom4784
28-05-2019, 01:39 PM
the worst thing about the vote is 73% could not be bothered to vote
It's all pointless really, I don't blame people for feeling disenfranchised when a party stormed the election who didn't even detail their polices and plans. How can you hold a party you voted for accountable if they haven't made any promises? Ignorance is winning. Just say 'brexit' and you'll get a bunch of people who can't think for themselves clapping you on like a bunch of performing seals.
Give the ignorant masses what they want, and, to borrow a quote from GOT, let their joy turn to ashes in their mouths when they have to deal with the reality of what they've demanded. They want to bleed, let them bleed.
Livia
28-05-2019, 01:52 PM
This is the only place I have ever experienced where some people actively want to watch others suffer, are looking forward to watching gleefully as others' lives worsen, all because they have a different opinion from them. And this is the same side that think others can't deal with the process of thinking logically and clearly, who are themselves tingling with the anticipation of a disaster just so they can say "I told you so".
user104658
28-05-2019, 02:59 PM
This is the only place I have ever experienced where some people actively want to watch others suffer, are looking forward to watching gleefully as others' lives worsen, all because they have a different opinion from them. And this is the same side that think others can't deal with the process of thinking logically and clearly, who are themselves tingling with the anticipation of a disaster just so they can say "I told you so".
Is it not more the hope that if people see these things go wrong, they will learn from the mistake and make better choices in future?
Although personally, I think that's an unrealistic dream. People don't change their political stance based on anything like that; they find something else to blame (or are given something else to blame) and continue on feeling as "right" as ever. That applies on all sides. There IS no "hah, see, you were WRONG" when it comes to these things because people can find any number of "reasons" that things aren't as they want it.
Someone is a remainer;
- Brexit is cancelled, things are good in 5 years time? Proof that remaining was right! Things are bad? It's because Britain's image was irreparably damaged by Brexit and it was too late!
- Brexit goes ahead, things are bad in 5 years time? Proof that Brexit was a disaster, it would all be fine had we stayed! Things are going fine and all of the predictions of doom came to nothing? Coincidence, there was an economic upturn for other reasons and we're lucky there was.
Someone is a Brexiteer;
- Brexit goes ahead, things are good. See we were right, Brexit has lead us to a better future! Things are bad? Well, there's still half the country who didn't want Brexit and are sabotaging everything with division, it would be working fine if everyone was united.
- Brexit is cancelled, and now things are economically bad in the UK: DAMN YOU REMAINERS! If you hadn't wrecked Brexit we could have avoided this! Brexit is cancelled and we're thriving within the EU? Well look here guys, the global economy is booming right now and if we weren't tied down by Europe we could have capitalised on that fully.
...basically a very long winded way of showing that no one will ever have to "deal with the reality of their choices". People find evidence that "they were right" no matter what happens, and anything that goes wrong, is because someone else messed up a good thing. So unfortunately Dezzy... if we exit the EU and it's a complete disaster, I absolutely guarantee that no one who voted for Brexit will find themselves suddenly realising that they screwed themselves. It will be the fault of those who made Brexit difficult, or the fault of incompetent politicians signing the wrong deals. Brexit will still have been "definitely the right choice". No one gets to say "told you so".
That's sad, huh.
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 03:05 PM
This is the only place I have ever experienced where some people actively want to watch others suffer, are looking forward to watching gleefully as others' lives worsen, all because they have a different opinion from them. And this is the same side that think others can't deal with the process of thinking logically and clearly, who are themselves tingling with the anticipation of a disaster just so they can say "I told you so".
+1
Tom4784
28-05-2019, 03:23 PM
This is the only place I have ever experienced where some people actively want to watch others suffer, are looking forward to watching gleefully as others' lives worsen, all because they have a different opinion from them. And this is the same side that think others can't deal with the process of thinking logically and clearly, who are themselves tingling with the anticipation of a disaster just so they can say "I told you so".
I see you're still reading my posts although you pretend I'm on ignore. Not quoting me isn't going to do much to act like you aren't clicking on every post I make just to make sure I'm not responding to you.
Stop clutching your pearls in faux outrage and looking down on people because it's utterly hypocritical, I'm fairly certain it would not be difficult for me to pull up posts in which you wish harm on people because you think you're morally correct to do so. I'm not wishing harm on anyone, I just want people to learn that actions have consequences. If people are dumb with their voting then they invite disaster and trying to prevent Brexiters from invoking disaster is becoming increasingly like trying to stop someone trying to put their hand into boiling water.
You combat ignorance through learning and if the only way to teach these people anything is to give them what they want and watch them learn all too late that what they want isn't what they'll get. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink, after all.
Give brexiters everything they want, let them bask in Gove's advice of ignoring experts that tell them what they don't want to hear, give them their every whim and see if the reality of it matches the delusion they've been peddling for years. I don't know why you're so mad at me for, I want you to have everything you desire.
i blame parliament entirely for the belligerence that has now set in on both sides. If they had just got on and done what they were tasked to do by the ref result, there would be none of the animosity we are now seeing
user104658
28-05-2019, 04:11 PM
i blame parliament entirely for the belligerence that has now set in on both sides. If they had just got on and done what they were tasked to do by the ref result, there would be none of the animosity we are now seeing
The problem was that the referendum result was so vague, though. "Leave the EU" but absolutely no clarification on what that meant, and even Brexiteers are split over whether it means "Hard Brexit" or otherwise... the problem began before the result, in not clarifying the question. Because Cameron and co back then thought they didn't need to, as it would be remain.
Crimson Dynamo
28-05-2019, 04:29 PM
anyone heard from Cameron since the vote?
arista
29-05-2019, 07:08 AM
Great report on Newsnight, last night,
BBC2HD on the Brexit Party
showing how through Social Media
Nigel Farage got his message across the UK
to get the massive win of 29 Brexit MEP's.
Who start in the first week of July in the EU.
On Twitter
you could watch the Live rallies
for example.
arista
29-05-2019, 07:16 AM
i blame parliament entirely for the belligerence that has now set in on both sides. If they had just got on and done what they were tasked to do by the ref result, there would be none of the animosity we are now seeing
Yes
the next date 31st of October 11pm
The EU need to chuck the UK out.
joeysteele
29-05-2019, 08:06 AM
Although I had some reservations on Theresa May's EU agreement bill.
I could accept it was the best we could get probably.
Not much to satisfy anyone really but then that is the modern way with politics.
I voted remain and still would, especially following this farce of the last near 3 years.
The maddening thing for me is firstly, the ERG group of the Conservative party.
They represent all that's really bad about the current Conservative party.
Secondly, I'm irritated with Labour.
Labour MPs, when it suits, defy the whip of their party often now.
However not enough of them would do so,to get May's agreement through, even to just abstain.
Of course any government should not need opposition votes, they should be able to get their main votes in Parliament passed with all their own MPs votes.
However this has allowed this loudmouthed bigot Farage to gain avoidable prominence again.
He's a wrecker of the worst divisive kind.
The saddest thing so far this year is anyone giving his smug, sickening grin the chance to grow wider.
He's taking UK politics further into the gutter.
He was likely gone from politics for good thankfully.
That the Conservative ERG, the DUP and Labour have opened the door to this divisive bigot again, is one of the worst thing to happen in politics in 2019.
Another footnote, I cannot and never have been able to like or admire Theresa May.
However seeing her with EU leaders yesterday, so happy and more relaxed with this burden of brexit off her shoulders, was good to see.
I've never blamed the EU.
We have a veto, we were allowed an opt out from the Euro.
We had a rebate agreed too.
We elected governments, both Labour and Conservative from 1974 onwards.
Who all signed treaties, who all helped form and set up the EU as it is.
Margaret Thatcher was a forceful supporter of the single market.
Now the EU is used as a scapegoat for our ills,created by the governments we elected.
Now having the UK of a strong third of voters, following the rantings of a man whose only real prominence stems from his connection to the EU, where his salaries and perks over the years have come from
Farage's year 2019, is said to be.
What a wholly depressing thought.
Truly awful that any can admire such a divisive bigot, in my view anyway.
...lovely post Joey..:love:...not just that he’s a bigot but that he also fully exploits bigotry for his own personal career moves...whatever the party, self serving is definitely not a positive for politics ...especially atm...
user104658
29-05-2019, 08:38 AM
At this point I'd take either May's deal or even a No Deal before the deadline because if we don't have SOME sort of active plan by the end of October and we end up with a General Election... The results could be an absolute horror show. The Brexit Buddies with actual power in parliament? Just...
chuff me dizzy
29-05-2019, 08:42 AM
Yes
the next date 31st of October 11pm
The EU need to chuck the UK out.
They won't do that ,they need our money to prop others up
Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2019, 08:52 AM
Nigel is the UK's most loved and most popular politician - no other even comes close. In a time when 99.9% of politicians are vilified, untrustworthy and in the Westminster bubble he is a breath of fresh air.
And the numbers back me up.
Nicky91
29-05-2019, 08:53 AM
They won't do that ,they need our money to prop others up
:facepalm: delusion of believing that
EU has already made back up plans for that
Nicky91
29-05-2019, 08:54 AM
Nigel is the UK's most loved and most popular politician - no other even comes close. In a time when 99.9% of politicians are vilified, untrustworthy and in the Westminster bubble he is a breath of fresh air.
And the numbers back me up.
he isn't that loved though
arista
29-05-2019, 08:57 AM
They won't do that ,they need our money to prop others up
Yes they want our Money
so they need to be a able to let us go.
And then sign the Pay Off.
arista
29-05-2019, 09:01 AM
At this point I'd take either May's deal or even a No Deal before the deadline because if we don't have SOME sort of active plan by the end of October and we end up with a General Election... The results could be an absolute horror show. The Brexit Buddies with actual power in parliament? Just...
Yes WTO
is OK
TS.
You can handle that in Scotland
joeysteele
29-05-2019, 09:01 AM
...lovely post Joey..:love:...not just that he’s a bigot but that he also fully exploits bigotry for his own personal career moves...whatever the party, self serving is definitely not a positive for politics ...especially atm...
It's really sad to be witnessing Ammi.
It will be really difficult for him to really break through in the first past the post system in a general election.
Hopefully that around a third of voters is his max.
Which actually is bad enough.
I'd hope for much less than that in a general election.
He'd need Labour and Conservatives to be down to around 20% and him well exceeding that to maybe even just have a chance of the balance of power.
Perish the thought.
arista
29-05-2019, 09:03 AM
"Farage's year 2019, is said to be.
What a wholly depressing thought.
Truly awful that any can admire such
a divisive bigot, in my view anyway."
He is a MEP, Joey
not a bigot.
if the support is so overwhelming for Nigel and the Brexit party, why is there so much fear of another referendum? It doesn't add up, and Nigel knows it.
arista
29-05-2019, 09:11 AM
if the support is so overwhelming for Nigel and the Brexit party, why is there so much fear of another referendum? It doesn't add up, and Nigel knows it.
Because that Delays everything again
Crimson Dynamo
29-05-2019, 09:11 AM
if the support is so overwhelming for Nigel and the Brexit party, why is there so much fear of another referendum? It doesn't add up, and Nigel knows it.
he has said countless times that he thinks a second ref would produce the same result and there is no point having one as we have not started to do what the first one was for.
user104658
29-05-2019, 09:28 AM
Yes WTO
is OK
TS.
You can handle that in ScotlandWe need the power to forge our own trade deals separate from the rest of the UK though. Scotland is quite liked / popular internationally, unlike England :hee:.
Also everyone wants good import rates on the Scotch because the entire world is low-key alcoholic. We just have to hope they don't find out that LT already drank it all :worry:.
joeysteele
29-05-2019, 09:29 AM
"Farage's year 2019, is said to be.
What a wholly depressing thought.
Truly awful that any can admire such
a divisive bigot, in my view anyway."
He is a MEP, Joey
not a bigot.
Sorry arista.
To me, he is a bigot, and a dangerously divisive one at that.
I see nothing to admire.
Our other problem is as voters over EU elections for years, we've sent to the EU him and others thinking his way, who never wanted to work with the EU for the UK.
However only in the main to just disrupt over there as much as possible, helping to fuel division and even prejudice in the UK.
arista
29-05-2019, 09:32 AM
Sorry arista.
To me, he is a bigot, and a dangerously divisive one at that.
I see nothing to admire.
Our other problem is as voters over EU elections for years, we've sent to the EU him and others thinking his way, who never wanted to work with the EU for the UK.
However only in the main to just disrupt over there as much as possible, helping to fuel division and even prejudice in the UK.
You do not have to Admire him.
Yes Disrupt - but they may stop that
arista
29-05-2019, 05:03 PM
Nigel is Live From Brussels
on LBC Free Radio 6PM - 7PM now
chuff me dizzy
29-05-2019, 05:28 PM
if the support is so overwhelming for Nigel and the Brexit party, why is there so much fear of another referendum? It doesn't add up, and Nigel knows it.
We've had a referendum ......... Leave won ,its that simple ..... Its called democracy
Elliot
29-05-2019, 05:31 PM
He is a MEP, Joey
not a bigot.
You can’t be both...?
arista
29-05-2019, 05:36 PM
You can’t be both...?
He has Worked Hard for Years
even walked out of Plane Crash
he is not a bigot.
That's why he is live on LBC Radio NOW
Tom4784
29-05-2019, 09:50 PM
We've had a referendum ......... Leave won ,its that simple ..... Its called democracy
Democracy is also the right to change our minds otherwise there would be no point in elections.
arista
30-05-2019, 09:09 AM
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arista
30-05-2019, 09:11 AM
Democracy is also the right to change our minds otherwise there would be no point in elections.
Not until after we have Left the EU
Dezzy.
This was Special
Not a General Election.
Vicky.
30-05-2019, 10:50 AM
he has said countless times that he thinks a second ref would produce the same result and there is no point having one as we have not started to do what the first one was for.
Funny how he didn't think that before the results came in, when he was saying if it was 52/48 to remain, it wouldn't be anywhere near over and the result shouldn't be taken until it was at least 66/33
arista
30-05-2019, 01:55 PM
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Richard Tice MEP is the Director of the Brexit Party,
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7u3OrLWwAAyitW?format=jpg&name=small
https://order-order.com/2019/05/30/snp-mep-refuses-back-tices-legal-threat/
arista
31-05-2019, 06:46 AM
1134195671454638080
Gordon Brown PM
never got elected
failed to deal with that woman's trouble.
He never wanted to speak with her..........................
I wish you would stop posting Russian propaganda Arista
arista
31-05-2019, 07:05 AM
I wish you would stop posting Russian propaganda Arista
No Brown was yesterday
attacking Nigel Farage
so that tweet with the New Labour PM
regretting debating immigration
is very relevant.
joeysteele
31-05-2019, 07:06 AM
Funny how he didn't think that before the results came in, when he was saying if it was 52/48 to remain, it wouldn't be anywhere near over and the result shouldn't be taken until it was at least 66/33
This is something Farage himself and any blindly supporting him choose to gloss over.
He and UKIP would have been relentless for years too in calling and working to get another referendum..
His words on the night being remain had seemed to just edge it.
Then adding your points you mention.
The man's a hypocrite.
I wish you would stop posting Russian propaganda AristaWhat?
Crimson Dynamo
31-05-2019, 07:19 AM
Funny how he didn't think that before the results came in, when he was saying if it was 52/48 to remain, it wouldn't be anywhere near over and the result shouldn't be taken until it was at least 66/33
i dont think anyone, before the results were in, said anything that can stand up in today's light
Crimson Dynamo
31-05-2019, 07:21 AM
This is something Farage himself and any blindly supporting him choose to gloss over.
He and UKIP would have been relentless for years too in calling and working to get another referendum..
His words on the night being remain had seemed to just edge it.
Then adding your points you mention.
The man's a hypocrite.
You used to vote Tory
i see you have changed your tune, can no one else without being called names?
arista
02-06-2019, 11:42 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/02/02/14251726-0-image-a-29_1559437427149.jpg
chuff me dizzy
02-06-2019, 12:03 PM
1134195671454638080
Gordon Brown PM
never got elected
failed to deal with that woman's trouble.
He never wanted to speak with her..........................
What a total pratt he is ,and never forget he was the 1st PM who who gave full backing and aided the cover up in the McCann case
arista
03-06-2019, 12:23 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1135268420197474311/mtayOvpj?format=jpg&name=600x314
Livia
03-06-2019, 12:36 PM
I think Nigel's party is going to wipe up the floor with the other parties. Peterborough voted overwhelmingly to leave the EU. It is the fastest growing city in the UK because of the number of migrants who've arrived there. The Polish call it Polishborough. I can almost guarantee that despite the population growing by almost a third since 2000, there will be no more doctor's surgeries, no more hospital beds, no more ambulances and certainly no more police. The Tories shafted them... then Labour shafted them... I predict a massive surge toward the Brexit party.
Let's hope nigel doesn't shaft everyone...I couldn't stomach the thought
Livia
03-06-2019, 12:43 PM
Let's hope nigel doesn't shaft everyone...I couldn't stomach the thought
Well thanks a lot for that mental image.
Well thanks a lot for that mental image.
You did that to me with your post.....:fist::blush:
Politics huh...what a bloody mess.:shrug:
Livia
03-06-2019, 12:57 PM
You did that to me with your post.....:fist::blush:
Politics huh...what a bloody mess.:shrug:
I don't think there can ever have been a time when politics was as bad as it is now. God, am I SOOO glad I don't work for the Tories anymore.
I don't think there can ever have been a time when politics was as bad as it is now. God, am I SOOO glad I don't work for the Tories anymore.
I was going to post something so ordinary and inoffensive, I won't incase you thought I meant something else. Xx
Livia
03-06-2019, 01:19 PM
I was going to post something so ordinary and inoffensive, I won't incase you thought I meant something else. Xx
Well now I'm intrigued.....
Well now I'm intrigued.....
To your leaving the Tories offices..I was going to say you must feel cleansed...xx
bad joke if you had been leaving the labour party.
Livia
03-06-2019, 01:30 PM
To your leaving the Tories offices..I was going to say you must feel cleansed...xx
bad joke if you had been leaving the labour party.
LOL.... very topical though.
And actually, I admit there were times when I worked for them that I felt grubby.
LOL.... very topical though.
And actually, I admit there were times when I worked for them that I felt grubby.
Phew..:blush:
I bet you did, I've been in the Calton clubs deepest depths....you could smell the dispair.
Livia
03-06-2019, 01:43 PM
Phew..:blush:
I bet you did, I've been in the Calton clubs deepest depths....you could smell the dispair.
Like I said, I can take a joke, it's kind of hard for my friends to insult me.
Like I said, I can take a joke, it's kind of hard for my friends to insult me.
Ok...just remember the initial post I was going to make wasn't a joke...the next bit was though after reading it in my head.
Tom4784
03-06-2019, 02:38 PM
It'll be the death of the NHS if that ratbitch takes any more power. He's against it yet people will vote for him because he hates everyone that isn't white and british.
arista
03-06-2019, 02:45 PM
It'll be the death of the NHS if that ratbitch takes any more power. He's against it yet people will vote for him because he hates everyone that isn't white and British.
Parliament would not allow that.
You keep going on and on about this
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Twosugars
03-06-2019, 02:48 PM
It'll be the death of the NHS if that ratbitch takes any more power. He's against it yet people will vote for him because he hates everyone that isn't white and british.
Then they deserve shafting and losing nhs
Twosugars
03-06-2019, 02:49 PM
I wish you would stop posting Russian propaganda Arista
Not even Arista !
Sign of the times?
arista
03-06-2019, 02:50 PM
Not even Arista !
Sign of the times?
It Valid Data.
Not now funded by Russia
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