Tommy Robinson to stand for North West MEP in next month's European elections

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Tommy Robinson has announced he WILL stand in the forthcoming European elections.

He pledged to represent "the working class of England" if elected as an Independent MEP in the North West.

In a letter on his website, the convicted mortgage fraudster claimed politicians including Theresa May, Jeremy Corbyn and those in the European Union are "laughing at us".

He said: "17.4 million of us voted for Brexit, but they don't care about people like us. They've tried to silence us, and they took away our democratic rights by betraying Brexit.

"The election on 23rd May is how we fight back.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/tommy-robinson-stand-north-west-16182412

These elections are really hotting up

[Twosugars]

:laugh3:

[Underscore]

can't wait to see him fall flat on his arse :laugh3:

[SherzyK]

He WILL try and he WILL fail.

[Livia]

Those who voted for Brexit feel like they've had their democratic rights removed. Consequently we're going to see lots of dubious characters stepping up. We shouldn't even be standing in EU elections, we should have left already.

[The Slim Reaper]

Love the mental gymnastics involved with Ol' EDL Tommy. People are mad that they haven't got what they want, even though it's still being worked on, but I can excuse those people voting for racist EDL Tommy. Don't ever say that large chunks of voters voted because of bigotry though.

[Twosugars]

Those who voted for Brexit feel like they've had their democratic rights removed. Consequently we're going to see lots of dubious characters stepping up. We shouldn't even be standing in EU elections, we should have left already.

Last time I checked Brexit was still going ahead so what are you on about?

[Alf]

It's only an option, you can also vote for paedo Tories Paedo Labour or Paedo Lib dems. Don't ever say that large chunks of voters voted because of their love of paedophilia though.

[Alf]

Last time I checked Brexit was still going ahead so what are you on about?You're right, we left on March 29th, the law said so.

[bots]

It's only an option, you can also vote for paedo Tories Paedo Labour or Paedo Lib dems. Don't ever say that large chunks of voters voted because of their love of paedophilia though.

is tommy a paedo then?

[Alf]

is tommy a paedo then?Not that I know of, unless you've heard something?

[bots]

Not that I know of, unless you've heard something?

just you seemed to offer the choice of tommy or paedos from every other party :shrug:

[Alf]

just you seemed to offer the choice of tommy or paedos from every other party :shrug:I was just showing how the smear propaganda in Slim Reapers post can work both ways.

Why did you question my post, but not Slim Reapers?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Last time I checked Brexit was still going ahead so what are you on about?

where did you check?

[Twosugars]

Nobody said Brexit is cancelled so voting for extremists is just a pathetic excuse.

[Alf]

Nobody said Brexit is cancelled so voting for extremists is just a pathetic excuse.It was pathetic to vote for the Monster Raving Looney party or any of the crazy characters that have stood. But people used to be free to do so, without being lectured to by this new class of people who know better.

[Twosugars]

It was pathetic to vote for the Monster Raving Looney party or any of the crazy characters that have stood. But people used to be free to do so, without being lectured to by this new class of people who know better.

yeah bc there's no difference between a jokey character and former EDL leader
so much for the fun you promised, Alf

[Alf]

I wouldn't vote for Tommy, I'm not even that much of a fan of his, he's not really my cup of tea. But it does bring me pleasure winding up the people with hatred in their heart for him. Anybody that wants to silence him are a much bigger threat than he is.

[Withano]

I domt know him, does he have social media or anything?

[Alf]

I domt know him, does he have social media or anything?No! the Nazis in disguise have silenced him

[Withano]

No! the Nazis in disguise have silenced him

:fan:

[Denver]

If anyone really votes for the racist sexiest homophobic bigot they should be investigated for potential hate crime as nobody will vote him unless full of hate

[Alf]

If anyone really votes for the racist sexiest homophobic bigot they should be investigated for potential hate crime as nobody will vote him unless full of hateIt wouldn't surprise me if that was made law in this Orwellian NWO.

[Denver]

It wouldn't surprise me if that was made law in this Orwellian NWO.

Hate crime is against the law

[Twosugars]

I wouldn't vote for Tommy, I'm not even that much of a fan of his, he's not really my cup of tea. But it does bring me pleasure winding up the people with hatred in their heart for him. Anybody that wants to silence him are a much bigger threat than he is.

I'm not talking about silencing him, let's not shift the subject
we are talking about voting for him and what it says

[Alf]

Hate crime is against the lawBut standing for election isn't a crime, neither is having an opinion.

[Denver]

But standing for election isn't a crime, neither is having an opinion.

Having an opinion full of hate is

[Twosugars]

and yet people will vote for him, I wonder why :think:

[Crimson Dynamo]

if anyone really votes for the racist sexiest homophobic bigot they should be investigated for potential hate crime as nobody will vote him unless full of hate

tbh you sound full of hate, shall i report you?

[Alf]

I'm not talking about silencing him, let's not shift the subject
we are talking about voting for him and what it saysIt says that people are free to vote for whom they like, what's your problem with that? Trust the people.

[SherzyK]

tbh you sound full of hate, shall i report you?

This is a bit hateful

[Alf]

Having an opinion full of hate isNo it's not.

"I really hate Salad cream, Liverpool FC and Jimmy Saville" that's not a crime.

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is a bit hateful

its lawful not hateful - adam is expressing irrational hate, not i

[Twosugars]

It says that people are free to vote for whom they like, what's your problem with that. Trust the people.
isn't it a thread about Tommy's standing for election? I thought we were meant to debate it?

[Alf]

and yet people will vote for him, I wonder why :think:Because they're free to.

[Alf]

isn't it a thread about Tommy's standing for election? I thought we were meant to debate it?I am debating it.

[Denver]

Should be a ban on criminals standing anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

isn't it a thread about Tommy's standing for election? I thought we were meant to debate it?

Surely you admire any person willing to represent people in a democratic election, rather than just find fault on a forum this man is putting his head on the line to affect change

he should be roundly applauded?

[Livia]

Last time I checked Brexit was still going ahead so what are you on about?

What am I on about? It's three years since the Brexit referendum, we should have been gone now, not choosing candidate MEPs.

That's what I'm on about. People are angry, you may not have noticed.

[Twosugars]

Surely you admire any person willing to represent people in a democratic election, rather than just find fault on a forum this man is putting his head on the line to affect change

he should be roundly applauded?

Depends on who they are and what they represent. Did you admire Hitler for standing in elections?

[Twosugars]

What am I on about? It's three years since the Brexit referendum, we should have been gone now, not choosing candidate MEPs.

That's what I'm on about. People are angry, you may not have noticed.

Is it a race how quick we come out?

[Livia]

Is it a race how quick we come out?

What are YOU on about? Have you watched the news over the last three years? If you have, I don't need to explain.....

[Twosugars]

Remainers warned Brexit wasn't quick or easy. Project fear of course.
EU is ready, it's the Tory government who isnt

[Twosugars]

What are YOU on about? Have you watched the news over the last three years? If you have, I don't need to explain.....

Not my fault your government ****ed it up

[Alf]

Depends on who they are and what they represent. Did you admire Hitler for standing in elections?I can absolutely guarantee you that Tommy has no chance of ever becoming leader of the UK and I very much doubt he'd ever run in a General election.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Is it a race how quick we come out?

:facepalm:

come on now, really?

[Livia]

Remainers warned Brexit wasn't quick or easy. Project fear of course.
EU is ready, it's the Tory government who isnt

If remainers are so all-knowing, perhaps they should have encouraged more people to vote, eh?

Actually, it's Parliament who isn't ready. Did you see all the votes on telly?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Robinson told the crowd he was entering a “David versus Goliath” battle to represent Britain’s “betrayed” working class.

He said: “Everyone is so disillusioned with the liars in parliament, but that is also our weakness.

“It is the reason we are being betrayed and will continue being betrayed until they fear us.

“The only way they will fear us is if we take their seats.”

(recent rally)

[Twosugars]

:facepalm:

come on now, really?

You LT should be preparing for independence and joining the EU :laugh:

[Livia]

Not my fault your government ****ed it up

MY government?

Are you not British?

This really is a very childish tack you're on today.

[Tom4784]

The self entitled racist manbaby's next ploy for attention...

[Livia]

Depends on who they are and what they represent. Did you admire Hitler for standing in elections?

LOL.... ffs....

[Twosugars]

If remainers are so all-knowing, perhaps they should have encouraged more people to vote, eh?

Actually, it's Parliament who isn't ready. Did you see all the votes on telly?
How come ERG and DUP are not supporting it? That'd be enough.
No need to blame the remainer MPs.
MY government?

Are you not British?

This really is a very childish tack you're on today.

No Tory government is my government

[Twosugars]

LOL.... ffs....

Lol, no ffs. We're talkng about extremists like Tommy standing for elections.
You should ffs LT who would praise ANYONE standing for election regardless of their views.

[Livia]

How come ERG and DUP are not supporting it? That'd be enough.
No need to blame the remainer MPs.


No Tory government is my government

What makes you think they're MY government? I've never stated on here how I voted, only that I worked for the Tories once.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The self entitled racist manbaby's next ploy for attention...

have you ever stood for anything publically?

if he wanted attention there are far easier paths

[Twosugars]

What makes you think they're MY government? I've never stated on here how I voted, only that I worked for the Tories once.
You strike me as a Tory :D
Sorry if I'm wrong.
Green? Labour?

[Livia]

Lol, no ffs. We're talkng about extremists like Tommy standing for elections.
You should ffs LT who would praise ANYONE standing for election regardless of their views.

Dragging Hitler into the equation really is scraping the bottom of the debate barrel. If you think that Robinson is the same as Hitler, your history is seriously lacking.

[Livia]

You strike me as a Tory :D
Sorry if I'm wrong.
Green? Labour?

Mind your own business.

You're not supposed to be discussing me.

[Twosugars]

Mind your own business.

You're not supposed to be discussing me.

you asked me to guess :D

[Crimson Dynamo]

Liv is SNP thu and thru

[Twosugars]

Dragging Hitler into the equation really is scraping the bottom of the debate barrel. If you think that Robinson is the same as Hitler, your history is seriously lacking.
You don't know that. Or can you read people's minds and read the future?
Hitler in the early 30s was considered a harmless extremist. If you don't know that your history is seriously lacking.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You don't know that. Or can you read people's minds and read the future?
Hitler in the early 30s was considered a harmless extremist. If you don't know that your history is seriously lacking.

by who?

[Tom4784]

have you ever stood for anything publically?

if he wanted attention there are far easier paths

He only stands for himself, he's only doing this because his main sources of revenue for his bile have been removed or demonitised. This isn't about standing up for anyone, it's about gaining attention so he can laugh all the way to the bank.

Plus it's hardly commendable to stand on a platform of extremism and racism.

[Twosugars]

by who?

read up about it, LT, it's not difficult

[Livia]

You don't know that. Or can you read people's minds and read the future?
Hitler in the early 30s was considered a harmless extremist. If you don't know that your history is seriously lacking.

My history isn't lacking at all, I have relatives living who gave me their first hand accountss of Nazi concentration camps and if you want to minimise their suffering by saying Hitler and Robinson are one in the same, then seriously, I don't want to discuss anything more with you.

[Twosugars]

My history isn't lacking at all, I have relatives living who gave me their first hand accountss of Nazi concentration camps and if you want to minimise their suffering by saying Hitler and Robinson are one in the same, then seriously, I don't want to discuss anything more with you.

Suit yourself. There were both considered harmless extremists early on by some.

[Livia]

Suit yourself.

Always.

[Twosugars]

Due to Livia's pulling the Holocaust card and my garden calling I'm talking a break in this fascinating discussion with those who defend Tommy Robinson. See you later.

[Livia]

Due to Livia's pulling the Holocaust card and my garden calling I'm talking a break in this fascinating discussion with those who defend Tommy Robinson. See you later.

Hey, you brought up Hitler! Don't blame me.... you've been an arse today.

[Twosugars]

Always.

and and a p.s. Livia, two of my family died in combat, another one in german labour camp. So spare me gettin on a high horse of indignation.

[The Slim Reaper]

I wouldn't vote for Tommy, I'm not even that much of a fan of his, he's not really my cup of tea. But it does bring me pleasure winding up the people with hatred in their heart for him. Anybody that wants to silence him are a much bigger threat than he is.

That much, of racist former EDL leader Tommy.

Name the paedo's up for a vote then.

[Twosugars]

Hey, you brought up Hitler! Don't blame me.... you've been an arse today.
And you simply don't know how to handle it. And no personal insults.
No discussing of members, take your own advice

[Livia]

and and a p.s. Livia, two of my family died in combat, another one in german labour camp. So spare me gettin on a high horse of indignation.

I was never on a high horse, Twosugars. But I can see from where you're standing, it might look like that.

And yes, you've already told me your links to the war... doesn't stop you comparing some no mark to Hitler though.

[The Slim Reaper]

He only stands for himself, he's only doing this because his main sources of revenue for his bile have been removed or demonitised. This isn't about standing up for anyone, it's about gaining attention so he can laugh all the way to the bank.

Plus it's hardly commendable to stand on a platform of extremism and racism.

He is being paid £10k/month by a rich backer is man of the people, fighting for the working classes, Tommy.

[Livia]

And you simply don't know how to handle it. And no personal insults.
No discussing of members, take your own advice

The way we've historically handled people throwing Hitler into the mix is by laughing. You're like the poster boy for Godwin's law.

[Twosugars]

I was never on a high horse, Twosugars. But I can see from where you're standing, it might look like that.

And yes, you've already told me your links to the war... doesn't stop you comparing some no mark to Hitler though.

You cannot handle a hypothetical discussion that somebody may be a new Hitler in the making?
I'm sorry your imagination doesn't stretch that far.

I really need to do this gardening so

[Livia]

You cannot handle a hypothetical discussion that somebody may be a new Hitler in the making?
I'm sorry your imagination doesn't stretch that far.

I really need to do this gardening so

Godwin's law. Look it up.

[Twosugars]

Livia stop the insults. You lost the argument, live with it :D

[Livia]

Livia stop the insults. You lost the argument, live with it :D

If there's one thing I hate more than people who throw Hitler into the mix at the drop of a hat, it's perfectly eloquent people who use emoticons in serious debates.

Are you ever going to do the gardening? It'll be raining soon...

[Twosugars]

The bottom line is your Brexit side in parliament can't even agree the brexit agreement.
:laugh:
You are lucky you have us remainers to argue with
or it'd be the case of two brexiters three opinions :laugh:

[Alf]

That much, of racist former EDL leader Tommy.

Name the paedo's up for a vote then.They're not gonna admit their paedo are they? You don't think Robinson admits he's racist do you? Oh no! this is all done in secrecy, but we all know it's going on, don't we?

[The Slim Reaper]

They're not gonna admit their paedo are they? You don't think Robinson admits he's racist do you? Oh no! this is all done in secrecy, but we all know it's going on, don't we?

I'm not even that much of a fan of paedos.

Mr Lennon doesn't have to admit to being racist when opening his mouth does the work for him. By this example you should be able to provide some info on politicians standing for elections that have talked seductively about young children, no?

[Alf]

I'm not even that much of a fan of paedos.

Mr Lennon doesn't have to admit to being racist when opening his mouth does the work for him. By this example you should be able to provide some info on politicians standing for elections that have talked seductively about young children, no?Show me an example of Robinson being racist. Remembering that Islam is an ideology and not a race of people.

[The Slim Reaper]

Show me an example of Robinson being racist. Remembering that Islam is an ideology and not a race of people.

https://resistinghate.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/tommy5-1.jpg

This ok?

I even played by your rules, which I din't have to.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://resistinghate.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Bxf_u_QCcAAlnVf.jpg

But of course, it's about the religion, not the people.

[Alf]

If that's the defination of racism, then there is no end.

[Alf]

Shahlaa said it, "joke"

[The Slim Reaper]

If that's the defination of racism, then there is no end.

R0iJAEEiiO0

Here he is calling a taxi driver a "little ****", after he calls himself king of the muslim race.

So I even worked to your definitions and provided you evidence, and now you're saying that it's the evidence that's to blame.

[Alf]

I'm not even that much of a fan of paedos.

Mr Lennon doesn't have to admit to being racist when opening his mouth does the work for him. By this example you should be able to provide some info on politicians standing for elections that have talked seductively about young children, no?

R0iJAEEiiO0

Here he is calling a taxi driver a "little ****", after he calls himself king of the muslim race.

So I even worked to your definitions and provided you evidence, and now you're saying that it's the evidence that's to blame.No, I'm not saying your evidence is to blame for being wrong, I'm saying your evidence is weak.

What exactly is your final hope to happen to Tommy, what do you want to happen to him?

[The Slim Reaper]

No, I'm not saying your evidence is to blame for being wrong, I'm saying not your evidence is weak.

What exactly is your final hope to happen to Tommy, what do you want to happen to him?

I don't have any hope for him at all. Racists are gonna racist. I don't care about him in the slightest; I give more of a crap about people like yourself that seems like a decent guy but supports and defend racists.

And if you call that evidence weak, what is racism in your opinion?

[Alf]

I don't have any hope for him at all. Racists are gonna racist. I don't care about him in the slightest; I give more of a crap about people like yourself that seems like a decent guy but supports and defend racists.I don't support him, I:ve never supported him, and never will, but he's not the problem and I would defend anybody who has been persicuted like he has. I don't see David Lammey getting chucked in prison for his extreme political views and nor should he.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't support him, I:ve never supported him, and never will, but he's not the problem and I would defend anybody who has been persicuted like he has. I don't see David Lammey getting chucked in prison for his extreme political views and nor should he.

Can you provide evidence of Lammy's extreme views?

He hasn't been persecuted. He made his name persecuting others, and is happy using others to hide his racism behind under the guise of free speech.

[Alf]

Can you provide evidence of Lammy's extreme views?

He hasn't been persecuted. He made his name persecuting others, and is happy using others to hide his racism behind under the guise of free speech.On the BBC Andrew Marr show (BBC) a couple of weeks ago on the BBC, calling Boris and Co, "worse than Nazis" on the BBC

bit extreme? or moderate?

[Alf]

Can you provide evidence of Lammy's extreme views?

He hasn't been persecuted. He made his name persecuting others, and is happy using others to hide his racism behind under the guise of free speech.He just has concerns as does David Lammey or anybody else that wants to raise a concern.

Debate him on his concerns, it's the most peaceful way.

[The Slim Reaper]

On the BBC Andrew Marr show (BBC) a couple of weeks ago on the BBC, calling Boris and Co, "worse than Nazis" on the BBC

bit extreme? or moderate?

That's hyperbole, but you think TR calling a taxi driver a ****, and a jew hooknose is weak evidence? Don't you see how your evidence standards fluctuate when it comes to Mr Lennon?

[Alf]

That's hyperbole, but you think TR calling a taxi driver a ****, and a jew hooknose is weak evidence? Don't you see how your evidence standards fluctuate when it comes to Mr Lennon?But Robinson's is tit for tat, you think people aren't calling Tommy vile names?

The guy gets death threats on him and his family, regularly, that to me is a much bigger Concrrn than a bit of name calling.

[The Slim Reaper]

But Robinson's is tit for tat, you think people aren't calling Tommy vile names?

The guy gets death threats on him and his family, regularly, that to me is a much bigger Concrrn than a bit of name calling.


You can't put your racism out there and expect everyone to go "lol, what a free speech warrior". Speech has consequences, and you must know that Lennon and his thugs are famous for door knocking his perceived enemies.

If you've been persecuted for most of your life because of the colour of your skin, or the fact you pray to a different god, or you wear funny headwear and long robes like dresses, then I'm sorry dude, it's not harmless name calling.

[The Slim Reaper]

Folks like Bill Hicks always punched up at authority, not down at minorities.

[BBDodge]

Dragging Hitler into the equation really is scraping the bottom of the debate barrel. If you think that Robinson is the same as Hitler, your history is seriously lacking.

Hitler wouldn't be impressed by the comparison:

KzWaPMtNeCk

[The Slim Reaper]

Hitler wouldn't be impressed by the comparison:

https://youtu.be/KzWaPMtNeCk

Only post everything after the equals sign.

[Tom4784]

No, I'm not saying your evidence is to blame for being wrong, I'm saying your evidence is weak.

What exactly is your final hope to happen to Tommy, what do you want to happen to him?

What's the point of asking for evidence if you're gonna jam your fingers in your ears and screech 'LALALALALALALA!' when you get it?

Pulling out some sort of pretend racism scale and declaring the evidence is 'weak' because it doesn't suit your agenda is in itself, weak. You're making excuses for racism and this racist in particular, you're trying to play the whole 'I'm not a fan of him but...' card in order to defend him without looking like you are.

All you are doing is excusing racism.

[Alf]

You can't put your racism out there and expect everyone to go "lol, what a free speech warrior". Speech has consequences, and you must know that Lennon and his thugs are famous for door knocking his perceived enemies.

If you've been persecuted for most of your life because of the colour of your skin, or the fact you pray to a different god, or you wear funny headwear and long robes like dresses, then I'm sorry dude, it's not harmless name calling.Why do you keep calling him Lennon, when he likes to be referred to as Robinson? Do you often refer to Elton John has Reg Dwight?

Of course you can if you want, I just find it a bit strange. A little bit spiteful in your actions, if I may say so?

[The Slim Reaper]

Why do you keep calling him Lennon, when he likes to be referred to as Robinson? Do you often refer to Elton John has Reg Dwight?

Of course you can if you want, I just find it a bit strange. A little bit spiteful in your actions, if I may say so?

Aren't you fighting for my free speech anymore?

As always with these discussions, you've now moved away from debate and on to distractions. Good luck with that, as I'm sure everyone reading will see exactly what you've done.

[Alf]

Folks like Bill Hicks always punched up at authority, not down at minorities.If you think Robinson's problem is with the Muslims (the people) then you ain't been listening to him.

Maybe he's just not able to get his point across as well as Bill Hicks?

[Matthew.]

https://media.giphy.com/media/ZEryR4y2mcV9EKi0ZW/giphy.gif

[Alf]

Aren't you fighting for my free speech anymore?

As always with these discussions, you've now moved away from debate and on to distractions. Good luck with that, as I'm sure everyone reading will see exactly what you've done.Forgive me for asking you a question. I was just chatting.

[Alf]

So, is it out of spite then?

[The Slim Reaper]

So, is it out of spite then?

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