Maritime Museum stops referring to Ships as 'she'

[Cherie]

It was The Queen who said: “May God bless her and all who sail in her,” as she commissioned Britain’s latest warship, the HMS Queen Elizabeth, in 2014.

But now the tradition of referring to boats as "she" or "her" is under threat after centuries of naval history.

On Tuesday it emerged that a British maritime museum has begun referring to ships it exhibits as "it" in a bid to appear more gender neutral.

The decision taken by the Scottish Maritime Museum near Troon was sparked by vandals. Twice in four months, references to boats as "she" have been scratched out of information signs, forcing the charity’s director to scrap the gender-specific term altogether.

A 19th century steam yacht called ‘Rifle’, which once carried Queen Victoria across Loch Arkaig while she was visiting Inverlochy castle in 1873, had its display signs defaced last week in the latest attack.


https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211GB714G91208&p=scottish+maritime+non+gender


:umm2:

[Smithy]

Another non story to bash people who haven’t even complained about this

:sleep:

[montblanc]

Another non story to bash people who haven’t even complained about this

:sleep:

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[Beso]

What next, mutual orgasm staines?

[Cherie]

Another non story to bash people who haven’t even complained about this

:sleep:

Nobody complained, I'm posting a story a story that made I've got News for You :laugh: dear me.....chill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and why cant I bash the people who defaced???

[Nicky91]

What next, mutual orgasm staines?

:joker::joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48037933

yep its a story alright

plenty other news sources are reporting it too

[Cherie]

Just dont enter threads that dont interest you it's not difficult....

I wouldn't say this is a non story.

Thank you Josy

[Beso]

Just dont enter threads that dont interest you it's not difficult....

I wouldn't say this is a non story.

Neither would I. .

[Smithy]

Nobody complained, I'm posting a story a story that made I've got News for You :laugh: dear me.....chill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and why cant I bash the people who defaced???
Your :umm2: implied otherwise
Just dont enter threads that dont interest you it's not difficult....

I wouldn't say this is a non story.

Is this not a forum where we’re entitled to post our opinions regardless of what they are? :conf:

[arista]

Yes bloody Trouble Makers
defacing the names on boats

The will always be a She
we ride them.

[arista]

https://images-o.jpimedia.uk/imagefetch/w_700,f_auto,ar_3:2,q_auto:low,c_fill/if_h_lte_200,c_mfit,h_201/https://www.portsmouth.co.uk/webimage/1.8902458.1556109451!/image/image.jpg

[arista]

https://images.livemint.com/rf/Image-621x414/LiveMint/Period2/2017/02/27/Photos/Opinion/navy2-kxBB--621x414@LiveMint.JPG


There SHE goes lads

[Cherie]

Your :umm2: implied otherwise


Is this not a forum where we’re entitled to post our opinions regardless of what they are? :conf:

what did I imply, I posted a story about some planks defacing the word 'she', what are you suggesting I implied?

[Oliver_W]

It won't catch on tbh

[Twosugars]

Another non story to bash people who haven’t even complained about this

:sleep:

agree, it is a non-story and it will never catch on

[Cherie]

How is is a non story if the British Maritime museum has changed the way they refer to ships for centuries due to vandalism? :facepalm:

Lets hope it never reaches TiBB where everyone is referred to as 'she' no matter what gender they are :hee:

[The Slim Reaper]

How is is a non story if the British Maritime museum has changed the way they refer to ships for centuries due to vandalism? :facepalm:

Lets hope it never reaches TiBB where everyone is referred to as 'she' no matter what gender they are :hee:

Quite right, Mr. C :smug:

[Cherie]

Quite right, Mr. C :smug:

:hehe:

[reece(:]

Well that's daft isn't it

why isn't this in SD

[Beso]

How is is a non story if the British Maritime museum has changed the way they refer to ships for centuries due to vandalism? :facepalm:

Lets hope it never reaches TiBB where everyone is referred to as 'she' no matter what gender they are :hee:

Cherie laying more bombs...love it.

[bots]

By calling it a non story, it is an attempt to shut down the topic and stop further discussion on it. That's the problem. That's not encouraging free thought and debate.

[Alf]

I'll continue and now, go out of my way to call them she and her.

What you gonna do about it?

That would be my reply to whomever suggested this.

[Josy]

By calling it a non story, it is an attempt to shut down the topic and stop further discussion on it. That's the problem. That's not encouraging free thought and debate.Exactly.

[Cherie]

I put in in Gen Chat by accident :skull: of course I should have put it in SD :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

I put in in Gen Chat by accident :skull: of course I should have put it in SD :laugh:

You'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

https://i.imgur.com/pvWy7YH.jpg

[Cherie]

You'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

https://i.imgur.com/pvWy7YH.jpg

:joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

[user104658]

You'd have got away with it too, if it wasn't for those pesky kids.

https://i.imgur.com/pvWy7YH.jpg

SD should be on the guy's face, not the mask :suspect: #memepedantry

[Crimson Dynamo]

SD should be on the guy's face, not the mask :suspect: #memepedantry

:nono:

did you see how hard it was for Slim to write General Chat with his mouse

[Tom4784]

Another non story to bash people who haven’t even complained about this

:sleep:

Pretty much, it's a cashgrab of an article to farm clicks from people who get upset over issues of gender and nothing more.

[The Slim Reaper]

SD should be on the guy's face, not the mask :suspect: #memepedantry

I did actually try, but I couldn't get it to work, especially with all the black. I could have written it on his chin, but I was worried he'd look too much like a young Jimmy Hill with a face tattoo

[Marsh.]

I love how on topic the thread remains.

[RileyH]

I love how on topic the thread remains.

:joker:

[Cherie]

I love how on topic the thread remains.

it is on topic given the why isn't this in SD queries :smug:

[Shaun]

I just don't know why anyone would care on either side of this supposed debate. I don't get why people would object to a ship being called she, I don't get why people would object to not calling a ship she.

[bots]

i Would have thought a ship with a name like Queen Elizabeth was pretty obviously female. If it were called King Bert, it would probably be male .... if it were called something like ocean spray, then its non gender specific :shrug:

[thesheriff443]

I just don't know why anyone would care on either side of this supposed debate. I don't get why people would object to a ship being called she, I don't get why people would object to not calling a ship she.

Agree with this.

[arista]

I put in in Gen Chat by accident :skull: of course I should have put it in SD :laugh:


You may need
more fruit in the mornings
to wake you up fully

[arista]

:nono:

did you see how hard it was for Slim to write General Chat with his mouse

At least he tried

[Crimson Dynamo]

I just don't know why anyone would care on either side of this supposed debate. I don't get why people would object to a ship being called she, I don't get why people would object to not calling a ship she.

Its about the reason for the change

Its very unlikely its about anything other than a virtue signal or a fear of blame (or both)

I guess lits like adverts that shoehorn in mixed race couples on tv, its not that they care about racism it s about appearing to be on trend and ultimately a cynical attempt to make money based on race

etc etc

[arista]

All Ships are Female
thats normal.

[Cherie]

The problem for me with this is not what the ships are called...he, she, it but the fact that they were intimidated by vandalism to change how they refer to ships? how in any civilised society is that acceptable? the vandalism should have been reported and CCTV or something put in place to stop it happening again

[Northern Monkey]

What percentage of the population are trans activists?An absolute minuscule amount.
What percentage of those trans activists will be so offended by a boat being called she?
Even less.

It’s silly to change this as they’re probably pissing off more of their customers by doing so.

Not to mention bowing down to vandals.
We don’t give in to terrorists so certainly shouldn’t to thugs.

[Shaun]

All Ships are Female
thats normal.

well then arista, WHERE IS THE VAGINA

[arista]

well then arista, WHERE IS THE VAGINA

Hidden in the Engine Room
they love alot of oil in them

[Shaun]

I knew I shouldn't have asked

[Cherie]

well then arista, WHERE IS THE VAGINA

Hidden in the Engine Room
they love alot of oil in them

I knew I shouldn't have asked

:joker:

[Livia]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-48037933

yep its a story alright

plenty other news sources are reporting it too

No, I'm sorry… Smithy said no.


It's a ridiculous sign of our ridiculous times.

[Livia]

I just don't know why anyone would care on either side of this supposed debate. I don't get why people would object to a ship being called she, I don't get why people would object to not calling a ship she.

Because we are a seafaring nation, it's part of our heritage and history.

[Beso]

I'm hoping it's just for the ships that do the trans atlantic crossing.

[Livia]

For centuries women have been okay with this, but now trans activists want it stopped.

Figures.