Corbyn spits the hypocritical dummy out again.

[Beso]

Not going to trumps state dinner, but goes to the Chinese leaders one, ping I think his name is...so he has a right bad rep on human rights yeah, but corbyn goes to that...but trumps.. oh no..what a mug...

[Beso]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/04/26/jeremy-corbyn-snubs-state-banquet-donald-trump-attacks-theresa/

[Marsh.]

I'm sure who Corbyn chooses to have dinner with is one of the most pressing issues we face in the world today. Right up there with which beverages Abbott enjoys on a London train.

[Beso]

I'm sure who Corbyn chooses to have dinner with is one of the most pressing issues we face in the world today. Right up there with which beverages Abbott enjoys on a London train.

She was manspreading as well...imagine wakening up 5 minutes from your stop faced with that.:nono:

[Marsh.]

She was manspreading as well...imagine wakening up 5 minutes from your stop faced with that.:nono:

I was more offended by the leopard print tbh.

[joeysteele]

I agree with him.
I agree Trump should visit in a general sense but not a full of pomp State visit.
No way.

[Beso]

I was more offended by the leopard print tbh.

Bloody labour eh...if they ain't lounging about on the aisle floors getting in everyone's way when there are seats available they are acting like the loutish scum we want off our trains.

[Oliver_W]

I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

[Beso]

I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

But but but.. its his climate issues....sorry guys im going to have to leave you with my smarmy cheeay teethed grin cause i got to fly...got a meeting at some martyrs grave stone to attend...

[joeysteele]

The Lib Dem leader Cable has also turned down the invite too.

One the better decisions of Cable too.

Meet Trump business like, fair enough, attend a meal/banquet in his honour.
No way, not a chance would I expect Party leaders other than Theresa May, to support that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

he is a petty vindictive oaf - a typical lefty so in love with his own ideas and faux morality that he is blinded by his hypocrasy and acrimonious demeanour

and lol, like Donald 1. knows who he is, 2. cares

[bots]

The speaker declined too i believe.

I don't like Donald at all so I couldn't really care, but, for arguments sake, say the UK had another GE over the next couple of months and Corbyn became PM, how do people think that would then pan out for the UK, setting up trade deals and the "special" relationship then?

Trump can also be petty and vindictive, and the UK wouldnt come out on top of that .... particularly having isolated itself from being part of the EU


Corbyn just doesnt think past his protester roots, he isn't cut out to be a leader on the world stage. Simple

[Oliver_W]

It's like they're saying on LBC, it's the "position" which has been invited - it's about POTUS, not Trump himself.

I just hope the protesters can respect the anniversary of D-Day and hold off.

[chuff me dizzy]

Happy to break bread with the IRA and terrorists but not the elected leader of the USA ,he's a dirty lowlife

[user104658]

I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]I mean this is an entirely false comparison as he has stated clearly that he would be happy to meet Trump for political debate and discussion, he's just opposed to him being thrown a lavish state red carpet banquet.

Until Corbyn expresses a desire to hold a lavish state visit for Hamas or the IRA it's not a direct comparison.

Being OK with the Chinese president (when China is still guilty of countless human rights violations, rampant censorship, etc) is a little hypocritical, however.

[Cherie]

The speaker declined too i believe.

I don't like Donald at all so I couldn't really care, but, for arguments sake, say the UK had another GE over the next couple of months and Corbyn became PM, how do people think that would then pan out for the UK, setting up trade deals and the "special" relationship then?

Trump can also be petty and vindictive, and the UK wouldnt come out on top of that .... particularly having isolated itself from being part of the EU


Corbyn just doesnt think past his protester roots, he isn't cut out to be a leader on the world stage. Simple

That is a very good point tbf

[joeysteele]

Well any trade deals with the USA are also likely to take years to finalise.
Trump may not even be there in a couple of years time.

The overtures to the present government from Trump and the other politicians in the USA seem to be developing conditions that haven't been acceptable to the UK before.

Corbyn has always said he'll deal and meet with Trump on a business level.
That's fine by me.

Hopefully however Trump is gone in a couple of years from office.
That could change most things for the better.

[bots]

We all know how petulant Trump is. To snub him personally effectively destroys any future relationship the 2 could have. It's not really up to Corbyn to pick and choose when to snub him and when to talk. It doesn't work that way, particularly when negotiating from a place of weakness.

[The Slim Reaper]

We all know how petulant Trump is. To snub him personally effectively destroys any future relationship the 2 could have. It's not really up to Corbyn to pick and choose when to snub him and when to talk. It doesn't work that way, particularly when negotiating from a place of weakness.

How did we end up in this position of weakness? I thought Brexit was the answer to all of our prayers?

[Alf]

It isn't an insult to Trump, he won't care, it's an insult to the American people whom elected him as their President.

[Marsh.]

The majority of the American people didn't want him. Doubt they care.

[Oliver_W]

I think it's more of an insult to those who were at D-Day than anything else, as the anniversary is the purpose of his visit.

[The Slim Reaper]

It isn't an insult to Trump, he won't care, it's an insult to the American people whom elected him as their President.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/qE7OssOtzKvAI/giphy.gif

If you'd have polled the British people (right, left, and centre) before Trump was elected, what they thought of Americans, then the overall opinions would have been mixed to say the least, but since Trump we must all worry about being more subservient.

[Alf]

The majority of the American people didn't want him. Doubt they care.That's OK then.

[Alf]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/qE7OssOtzKvAI/giphy.gif

If you'd have polled the British people (right, left, and centre) before Trump was elected, what they thought of Americans, then the overall opinions would have been mixed to say the least, but since Trump we must all worry about being more subservient.Oh I didn't know that, well that's OK then, bravo Jeremy.

[Marsh.]

That's OK then.

It is.

[The Slim Reaper]

Oh I didn't know that, well that's OK then, bravo Jeremy.

Take Jeremy and Trump out of the equation, and do you really think most people give a crap about upsetting the American people?

[Alf]

Take Jeremy and Trump out of the equation, and do you really think most people give a crap about upsetting the American people?I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

That's fair enough, no one can tell you how to feel. Wouldn't bother me at all, even if it was Trump.

[Kazanne]

Happy to break bread with the IRA and terrorists but not the elected leader of the USA ,he's a dirty lowlife

Have to agree with you here Chuff , why are people so blinded to the awful leaders we have welcomed here before ,far worse than Trump , people really need to think especially when they are protesting against him , I don't think it's a good idea for the US to see how petty some of us can be.he maybe unlikable to us but we really need to stop with the tantrums take it with grace he wont be here that long.

[Kazanne]

I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

I agree,I find it quite embarrassing, lets have some dignity for once.

[Marsh.]

I don't know, because people are different, I know that if our head of state (the Queen) was snubbed by Hilary Clinton, and protested by the American people, I'd find it insulting to our state.

Except, as they're different people, that wouldn't happen.

If the Queen was anything like Trump we'd probably see it exactly for what it is. The American people probably do too.

[Alf]

Except, as they're different people, that wouldn't happen.

If the Queen was anything like Trump we'd probably see it exactly for what it is. The American people probably do too.Doesn't matter, they're both Heads of State, we're not insulting Trump, we're insulting USA the state.

[Marsh.]

Doesn't matter, they're both Heads of State, we're not insulting Trump, we're insulting USA the state.

Show me all the offended Americans.

You couldn't possibly be getting offended on their behalf just out of a dislike of Corbyn anyway?

Surely not?

[Beso]

Show me all the offended Americans.

You couldn't possibly be getting offended on their behalf just out of a dislike of Corbyn anyway?

Surely not?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/26/jeremy-corbyn-refuses-to-attend-u-k-state-dinner-with-u-s-president-trump/amp/

[user104658]

Well any trade deals with the USA are also likely to take years to finalise.
Trump may not even be there in a couple of years time.

The overtures to the present government from Trump and the other politicians in the USA seem to be developing conditions that haven't been acceptable to the UK before.

Corbyn has always said he'll deal and meet with Trump on a business level.
That's fine by me.

Hopefully however Trump is gone in a couple of years from office.
That could change most things for the better.

In theory it could even strengthen the position with a future Trump-skeptical president, gaining some respect for not flopping at Trump's feet for the hope of a trade deal. However... I have a horrible feeling that Trump will get a full 8 years :worry:.

[joeysteele]

Is any other Party leader going to this State banquet for Trump other than Theresa May.

This State banquet is not about D Day.
There likely wouldn't be a State banquet if Trump wasn't here.

I have no respect for Trump and don't believe he warrants it either in my view.
Any political Leader refusing an invite to be at this banquet 'for him, does however gain my respect.

[Northern Monkey]

Well.

Trump’s not a Commie like Xi Jinping.They wouldn’t have much to talk about.

[Alf]

This is all because Hillary lost. That's the core.

[user104658]

This is all because Hillary lost. That's the core.

Yes Alf, Trump is president "because Hillary lost". Sure. Believe that and you'll believe anything :facepalm:.

[The Slim Reaper]

This is all because Hillary lost. That's the core.

You think Corbyn would give a **** about right wing Hillary?

[joeysteele]

Doesn't matter, they're both Heads of State, we're not insulting Trump, we're insulting USA the state.

No we aren't at all sorry.

Just as here in our electoral system more Americans voted against Trump than for him.
However their system gave him the Presidency.

I have family and friends in the USA and have nothing against the American people whatsoever.

I don't have to like their leaders however.
I don't even like our own UK current Party leaders, except for Caroline Lucas,( I know she isn't now Party leader but still ought to be I think), and Nicola Sturgeon.

Doesn't mean in any shape or form, I'm insulting any of the citizens of the 4 nations of the United Kingdom.
Because I haven't an ounce of respect for Trump doesn't either mean I'm insulting any other American other than him.

Frankly if he felt insulted by me for any reason, for me that would be a job well done on my part.

[Marsh.]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/04/26/jeremy-corbyn-refuses-to-attend-u-k-state-dinner-with-u-s-president-trump/amp/

I didn't ask for that.

[Tom4784]

Ah Corbyn, the number 1 method for Brexiters, right wingers/tories of desperately trying to distract themselves from how much they've ****ed **** up.

[Tom4784]

I know he meets with literal terrorists like Hamas, Hezbollah, and the IRA; and I know the USA is one of our most important allies, but ... [chokes back tears] Twrump says some naaastyy things!!111 [/chokes back tears]

It seems like the only tears are coming from the Trump fans that are tearing their hair out over this tbh.

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuofficial/videos/381291499141167/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARDuh__N-9ftYbNH6JF37xosoipNOlV5O3jKnlH6_mV-Xs5r-aFU4eq09FyR2zwRy0tyktqujyat8EoY&hc_ref=ARQXy-Y02DpmOQl8armQ1uA1IvT8Y7aSFt6lmRIMZYwp871ww9MSkgqR Iu2lic6gbro&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARCkI650q6idGbz6xzEI2PySW67v_kVBtYO3XtDp4q3jpb m3iBkxzq1bFRyMKdz1TLIovI9R6PskauIBVEMqF3ybc-IYKrcDAFhmALcKZezyx_CDZ39L9htpay7PNAankU9M3Fj3PFc6 fCqjm2EGBXbm_Yq7-XKR_Cfs0bG0Etmj_j_RI2m_WeW-ChR1gSHefMXUUwIcPiW0Ek0xxwGRkNLc8DD_YGwgbycl8JyqEi CkuTVTSv9Rvycm5AXGAOCYo4aaW3nlJYAAZ1bzlFGl4bczv7Bs t4TknnR25UzszP_YOs8mzEaNG_VsZ6FjtNu2ufPeXmMMiVF-Y8dNBscQxFZZeiW5Cgnw06VjhH608wl_zOb-9yuiqgZBx3ZjKEfEguE

[chuff me dizzy]

https://www.facebook.com/leaveeuofficial/videos/381291499141167/?__tn__=kCH-R&eid=ARDuh__N-9ftYbNH6JF37xosoipNOlV5O3jKnlH6_mV-Xs5r-aFU4eq09FyR2zwRy0tyktqujyat8EoY&hc_ref=ARQXy-Y02DpmOQl8armQ1uA1IvT8Y7aSFt6lmRIMZYwp871ww9MSkgqR Iu2lic6gbro&fref=nf&__xts__[0]=68.ARCkI650q6idGbz6xzEI2PySW67v_kVBtYO3XtDp4q3jpb m3iBkxzq1bFRyMKdz1TLIovI9R6PskauIBVEMqF3ybc-IYKrcDAFhmALcKZezyx_CDZ39L9htpay7PNAankU9M3Fj3PFc6 fCqjm2EGBXbm_Yq7-XKR_Cfs0bG0Etmj_j_RI2m_WeW-ChR1gSHefMXUUwIcPiW0Ek0xxwGRkNLc8DD_YGwgbycl8JyqEi CkuTVTSv9Rvycm5AXGAOCYo4aaW3nlJYAAZ1bzlFGl4bczv7Bs t4TknnR25UzszP_YOs8mzEaNG_VsZ6FjtNu2ufPeXmMMiVF-Y8dNBscQxFZZeiW5Cgnw06VjhH608wl_zOb-9yuiqgZBx3ZjKEfEguE


CLICK ON THE LINK ,God knows why it looks all jumbled ?

[Livia]

I'm sure who Corbyn chooses to have dinner with is one of the most pressing issues we face in the world today. Right up there with which beverages Abbott enjoys on a London train.

It was an alcoholic beverage, otherwise no one would have given a toss. She breaks the rules. Like when she told everyone their kids had to go to state schools because it was the right thing.... then sent her own kid to private school.

Corbyn and Abbott lead the shadow cabinet. Don't you think people are going to be a tiny bit interested in what they do? Corbyn has sat down with all kinds of odious, murderous terrorists... but he draws the line at Trump?

I approve of stories like this because it reminds real Labour voters what is happening.

[Marsh.]

It was an alcoholic beverage, otherwise no one would have given a toss. She breaks the rules. Like when she told everyone their kids had to go to state schools because it was the right thing.... then sent her own kid to private school.

Corbyn and Abbott lead the shadow cabinet. Don't you think people are going to be a tiny bit interested in what they do? Corbyn has sat down with all kinds of odious, murderous terrorists... but he draws the line at Trump?

I approve of stories like this because it reminds real Labour voters what is happening.

A tiny bit?

[Livia]

A tiny bit?

Yeah, even a tiny bit. Or would you like the story buried? Because we don't bury stories for the Tories when they're being ridiculous.

[Marsh.]

Yeah, even a tiny bit. Or would you like the story buried? Because we don't bury stories for the Tories when they're being ridiculous.

No but do we focus more on actual issues or overexaggerate a minor rulebreak and which rich dude they choose to dine with?

Of course both are going to hit the news. But the way in which they do are laughable to me.

[The Slim Reaper]

CLICK ON THE LINK ,God knows why it looks all jumbled ?

In the US, the teacher of the year traditionally meets with the president. The last 3 winners (all white folks) have all met with Trump, but this year, a black man won and Trump has refused to meet with him, but he sucks up to Putin and KJU instead.


The problem with little vids like this, is that don't really mean anything and provide evidence of even less. There's probably not a politician alive that couldn't have one of these made about them.

[Livia]

No but do we focus more on actual issues or overexaggerate a minor rulebreak and which rich dude they choose to dine with?

Of course both are going to hit the news. But the way in which they do are laughable to me.

I don't know what you mean, Marshy. We're on a discussion forum. People focus on the strangest stuff. To be honest, the drinking on the train thing, I've only encountered a discussion about it on here. Didn't even see it in the paper, didn't hear about it on telly. But I give you your due, you've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to justify Abbott.

And of course people are going to draw comparisons about who Corbyn will and won't dine with. That he'll sit down with the leader of Communist China, with all its Human Rights abuses, but he won't sit down with Trump.

Imagining people aren't going to discuss that, well, that's laughable.

[Marsh.]

I don't know what you mean, Marshy. We're on a discussion forum. People focus on the strangest stuff. To be honest, the drinking on the train thing, I've only encountered a discussion about it on here. Didn't even see it in the paper, didn't hear about it on telly. But I give you your due, you've spent an inordinate amount of time trying to justify Abbott.

And of course people are going to draw comparisons about who Corbyn will and won't dine with. That he'll sit down with the leader of Communist China, with all its Human Rights abuses, but he won't sit down with Trump.

Imagining people aren't going to discuss that, well, that's laughable.

Well my comment was aimed at the media coverage rather than TiBB discussion.

And also references to the "American people" who by and large wouldn't know who Corbyn is if they fell over him.