Final Fantasy VII Remake - Out now

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[Barry.]

So getting this.

[Ramsay]

Hello childhood

[Ant.]

mess hasnt it been 3 years since it was revealed

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mess hasnt it been 3 years since it was revealed

They were outsourcing the game early on, but decided to scrap that and work on it all in house.

[Ant.]

"more coming in June" so we're definitely getting details in June.

Square Enix are done with FFXV AND KH3 now so I can only wonder if they're gonna put all their focus into FFVII or if they're already working on FFXVI? It'll be so surreal to see a new mainline Final Fantasy game to be revealed given it's been ten years since FFXIV was announced (and if you don't count that, FFXV was technically announced alllll the way back in 2006 - 13 years since a new, single player mainline FF game has been revealed (excluding XIII-2 and LR:XIII)

[Scarlett.]

"more coming in June" so we're definitely getting details in June.

Square Enix are done with FFXV AND KH3 now so I can only wonder if they're gonna put all their focus into FFVII or if they're already working on FFXVI? It'll be so surreal to see a new mainline Final Fantasy game to be revealed given it's been ten years since FFXIV was announced (and if you don't count that, FFXV was technically announced alllll the way back in 2006 - 13 years since a new, single player mainline FF game has been revealed (excluding XIII-2 and LR:XIII)

I wonder if we're gonna start seeing more mainline titles more often? XV/Versus took so long because all of the issues at the back end of last decade, whereas a new one would be developed outside of any of that chaos.

[Tom4784]

Apparently there's been some sort of tweet with one of the devs saying that they've got the launch plans in place so I think we'll have this either by Christmas or in the new year.

It's great to see it again, the gameplay looks like a mix of Kingdom Hearts and XV which will upset the purists but I'm really intrigued by it. I'd rather they do something new with the remake 'cus the original will always be there.

[Scarlett.]

Apparently there's been some sort of tweet with one of the devs saying that they've got the launch plans in place so I think we'll have this either by Christmas or in the new year.

It's great to see it again, the gameplay looks like a mix of Kingdom Hearts and XV which will upset the purists but I'm really intrigued by it. I'd rather they do something new with the remake 'cus the original will always be there.

Nice! The project definately looks a lot further on than I expected it to

[Tom4784]

Apparently it's been said that it's still an episodic release...... My hype is decimated.

Given how the PS5 is looming in the distance though, I do think the first episode will be a surprise release in June/July or at some point in Summer.

[Scarlett.]

I guess it depends on how 'episodic' its going to be, like, will each episode be the size of one full game, or is it going to be like smaller sized episodes?

[Tom4784]

I assume it'll be three parts. I do think a fair bit might be cut from the original though. The Chocobo farm, Kalm, Fort Condor spring to mind as potential part 1 ommisions but if they make it so that each part roughly covers a disc from the original then I can see them potentially moving some things around to buff the run time of parts 2 and 3.

[Ant.]

I wonder if we're gonna start seeing more mainline titles more often? XV/Versus took so long because all of the issues at the back end of last decade, whereas a new one would be developed outside of any of that chaos.

I'm hoping so! I imagine if we do see one, it'll be for PS5/next generation.
They pumped out games yearly for FFVIII-FFXI, hopefully they could get back to that stage (not by releasing a new game every year, especially if that means quality is compromised, but more like a game every 2/3 years as opposed to 4/5 years. The gap between FFXIII and FFXV felt so long when you consider the fact they were announced together and one was released 5 years after the other)

[user104658]

I assume it'll be three parts. I do think a fair bit might be cut from the original though. The Chocobo farm, Kalm, Fort Condor spring to mind as potential part 1 ommisions but if they make it so that each part roughly covers a disc from the original then I can see them potentially moving some things around to buff the run time of parts 2 and 3.

I personally highly doubt the 3 parts will represent the three discs... Disc 1 is more than half of the (storyline) game, and disk 3 is very short - only needed a whole disc because it has a large number of FMV videos which took up loads of space back on the PS1.

I can honestly see them padding out a lot of the opening Midgar chapter and the bulk of the first game being in Midgar... potentially even ending after the bike chase... although it could end after Junon with Jenova BIRTH being the final boss. In fact, I think Aeris' death (spoiler? lol?) / Jenova-LIFE might even be a good call for the end of Game 2, and that's the end of Disk 1.

I agree that things like Chocobos are likely to only feature later on when they become more relevant i.e. catching / training / racing. There's no way they'll cut things like the bike chase, breeding a gold chocobo, or the other Gold Saucer minigames completely though. They're too integral to FFVII.

[Tom4784]

I personally highly doubt the 3 parts will represent the three discs... Disc 1 is more than half of the (storyline) game, and disk 3 is very short - only needed a whole disc because it has a large number of FMV videos which took up loads of space back on the PS1.

I can honestly see them padding out a lot of the opening Midgar chapter and the bulk of the first game being in Midgar... potentially even ending after the bike chase... although it could end after Junon with Jenova BIRTH being the final boss. In fact, I think Aeris' death (spoiler? lol?) / Jenova-LIFE might even be a good call for the end of Game 2, and that's the end of Disk 1.

I agree that things like Chocobos are likely to only feature later on when they become more relevant i.e. catching / training / racing. There's no way they'll cut things like the bike chase, breeding a gold chocobo, or the other Gold Saucer minigames completely though. They're too integral to FFVII.

I'm personally hoping for two parts, end the first part where disc 1 ends and have the second part carry on until the end of the game since that death is a naturally good point to end the first game on.

I do think it'll be three parts though and if the first part is all Midgar then there's going to be a lot of cuts from the last game OR if they keep the three parts resembling the three discs, they'll add a lot of cut stuff from Disc 1 to the other parts.

If it's three parts or more, I'd bet money that we'll see the release of the first game very soon since I think that they'll likely have to complete the season before the PS5 comes out on which they can release a 'complete season' edition on it. If it's two parts, I think we'll see it at Christmas/New Year and then half way through 2020.

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[LukeB]

2020? :(

[Scarlett.]

2020? :(

It's less than a year away lol, much shorter wait than expected :laugh:

[user104658]

The battle system actually looks interesting and I like the way they're rendered Cross Slash, so I'm hopeful for the limit breaks. Cautiously optimistic overall.

[Tom4784]

The release date is about right, I'm just looking forward to hearing more about how these 'episodes' will work out. I assume, given that it's been in the works for... what... 6-7 years? That it will be in a good position to potentially all be released by next year, after all, even XV, with it's ten years in development, only spent about 4 or so of those years being actively developed.

[user104658]

I am slightly concerned that STILL all of the actual game footage is in Midgar... and would reiterate that I'd be quite surprised if the first release doesn't end after ShinRa HQ / bike chase. I think there's enough material and a big enough setting for them to bulk out a full length game with that as the end point, and that's what I think they're doing. Just ShinRa HQ itself could be padded out to be several hours of gameplay, as could both Reactor missions, the sewer + train graveyard, Sector 6 and Wall Market etc.

[Tom4784]

I wouldn't be worried about it, I think it's mostly a marketing choice to focus on the early hours of the game. I expect that we'll probably see a few characters and a non-Midgar area tonight.

Hopefully they are smart enough to confirm just what is happening with the parts, the fact that didn't say on the trailer is interesting.

[user104658]

Hopefully they are smart enough to confirm just what is happening with the parts, the fact that didn't say on the trailer is interesting.

After the XV debacle, I think "...if they even know" has to be a part of that question :worry:.

[Barry.]

Can't wait! Wish it was multiplayer.

[Ant.]

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[LukeB]

It's less than a year away lol, much shorter wait than expected :laugh:

I'm really impatient so it feels long to me:laugh: but i don't know why i'm sad i still got loads of games to complete including Final Fantasy 9,10 and 15 so by the time i completed all of them FF7 will be out XD

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I'm actually more excited about this now

[user104658]

I'm actually more excited about this now

Yes Dia I am officially hyped out of my boots :(. Damnit. The music at the start gave me goosebumps. And they've nailed the new rendering of the classic locations that I could make out. Updated, but still so familiar. Battle system looks like a much more refined variation on XV. Confirmed character switching too. I think it's going to be a lowkey masterpiece.

...though from that trailer I'm still pretty convinced that we're only leaving Midgar at the very end of part 1. It looks like the Nibelheim flashback has been moved from Kalm to pre-Midgar-exit. Also looks like bike chase has been moved from HQ escape to one of the Reactor missions? Jessie is on the back of the bike. Unless they've added a second one.

Or the writers have spared poor Jessie in the remake? :omgno:

[Scarlett.]

I think they confirmed last night that this part is just Midgar, which is interesting, with two discs they're gonna be diving deep into Midgar lol

[user104658]

I think they confirmed last night that this part is just Midgar, which is interesting, with two discs they're gonna be diving deep into Midgar lol

I find it kind of fitting because I remember when I first played it, I had never played a game that was longer than 5 - 10 hours (other than strategy games etc), and it took me 8+ to play through Midgar on that first playthrough and so I thought the game was nearing completion at that point. My mind was utterly ****ing blown when the game loaded up the world map after leaving the city.

I think they'll heavily flesh out the first reactor, Sector 6 and ShinRa HQ and probably add some unseen parts of the city. It also makes more sense with it seeming that the Nibelheim-5-years-ago flashback (which could be a couple of hours of gameplay, easily) has been moved from Kalm so that it'll presumably feature towards the end of the first game.

My only real concern is in terms of timescale now though. Not showing any of the world makes me suspicious that they haven't actually developed most of the world / assets beyond Midgar... which makes me worry that part 2 and beyond is open to delays.

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I find it kind of fitting because I remember when I first played it, I had never played a game that was longer than 5 - 10 hours (other than strategy games etc), and it took me 8+ to play through Midgar on that first playthrough and so I thought the game was nearing completion at that point. My mind was utterly ****ing blown when the game loaded up the world map after leaving the city.

I think they'll heavily flesh out the first reactor, Sector 6 and ShinRa HQ and probably add some unseen parts of the city. It also makes more sense with it seeming that the Nibelheim-5-years-ago flashback (which could be a couple of hours of gameplay, easily) has been moved from Kalm so that it'll presumably feature towards the end of the first game.

My only real concern is in terms of timescale now though. Not showing any of the world makes me suspicious that they haven't actually developed most of the world / assets beyond Midgar... which makes me worry that part 2 and beyond is open to delays.

I'm wondering if the 'open' world will be a bit more linear than we think, I mean, in a way, the world maps always were linear, they just gave the impression that it was open :laugh:

[user104658]

I'm wondering if the 'open' world will be a bit more linear than we think, I mean, in a way, the world maps always were linear, they just gave the impression that it was open [emoji23]I think there's a good chance it'll be more like FFX. Open in the sense that once the airship is available you'll be able to travel everywhere, but not the actual world map. I agree that it's basically a linear game anyway, for most of the game you can't actually return to old areas and the ones you can return to there's little reason to.

They'd have to rework Chocobo catching /breeding though. It would be a major negative if breeding a gold Chocobo has been removed from the game... It felt like such an achievement back in ye olde days.

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Yeah, I was thinking more like X too, I think that kind of path works better than what we saw in XV, I'd have loved if XV was more focused on a long road, instead of a small open world lol

I reckon all the minigame stuff will get expanded on quite a bit

[Tom4784]

I can't see them taking any longer than a year or two to bring out the rest of the parts because I think they're developing the parts concurrently.

Plus you got to remember that SE don't focus on more than one major RPG at a time, it's why XV's development stalled to wait for the XIII sequels, it's why KH3 stalled to wait until XV was out there and fixed. I don't think they'll spend years bringing out subsequent parts because that will delay any brand new mainline titles being released and investors love those numbered games.

I predict it could all be said and done by the start of 2021, you got to remember that the game is decidedly current gen and it'll stay current gen with potential ports when the next gen comes out. They aren't going to be developing triple A PS4 games for years to come.

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[user104658]

:joker: Don Corneo! I also like that they've made President Shinra much more of a presence as a villain, and also it seems they've added a new character (another SOLDIER 1st Class) which really is a great addition as A) it will showcase their abilities and B) it was weird in the original FF7 that we never encountered anyone from SOLDIER who was more than a basic grunt.

Though also, you'd have to assume that (spoiler?) he would know that Cloud isn't who he's claiming to be? Which is a much later reveal in the original.

[Tom4784]

I've been expecting a new character for a while, Midgar in the original lacks a foe who can go toe to toe with the party and I really didn't think that this game would end with a boss battles against that robot on the highway. It makes sense for this SOLDIER to be the physical threat of part 1.

[LukeB]

I'm really looking forward to this.

[user104658]

I've been expecting a new character for a while, Midgar in the original lacks a foe who can go toe to toe with the party and I really didn't think that this game would end with a boss battles against that robot on the highway. It makes sense for this SOLDIER to be the physical threat of part 1.I wonder if they'll have more tie-in with the wider FFVII lore in general? More references to Zack / SOLDIER / the events of Crisis Core etc?

[Scarlett.]

Given that we're spending a full game in Midgar, I hope we see lots of extra stuff

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[LukeB]

This is going to be released in parts?

[Scarlett.]

Yus, though I understand they're the size of full games rather than 'episodes', the size of this game in will need two Blu Ray discs.

[LukeB]

Yus, though I understand they're the size of full games rather than 'episodes', the size of this game in will need two Blu Ray discs.

Do you think part 2 will also be £50 :worry:

[Scarlett.]

Probably, but it'll probably come out a while after the first part

[user104658]

Probably, but it'll probably come out a while after the first part

I really, really want to wait until the whole release is out before playing the first one but I doubt I'm going to be able to resist, and that makes me sad :bawling:. I guess I can just do a replay when the final part is out...

[Tom4784]

I wonder if they'll have more tie-in with the wider FFVII lore in general? More references to Zack / SOLDIER / the events of Crisis Core etc?

I imagine, given that they probably don't want to give the twist away regarding Cloud this early on, that this SOLDIER will probably be new to First Class/a leadership position and isn't privvy to knowledge about the other First Class SOLDIERS and what happened in Nibelheim.

[Tom4784]

I imagine the series will be wrapped up by 2021/22 at the latest though. If they aren't developing the parts concurrently then I'd be surprised given that the game most likely entered production in, what, 2012/13? Remember that in the year it was announced, we had gameplay revealed too so it was pretty far ahead in development back then.

Plus we'll start heading towards a XVI announcement in a year or two and SE don't like to focus on pushing more than one Triple A RPG at a time.

[user104658]

I imagine, given that they probably don't want to give the twist away regarding Cloud this early on, that this SOLDIER will probably be new to First Class/a leadership position and isn't privvy to knowledge about the other First Class SOLDIERS and what happened in Nibelheim.True, there aren't many active 1st Class at one time it seems so this could be someone that they recruited after the disappearance of Sephiroth and Zack. It also always seemed like Prez Shinra / the Turks etc. had no idea about Cloud in the original. Which TBH made sense with the president (who likely wasn't interested) but it was always odd that the Turks didn't know :think:. Unless, I suppose, they didn't know Zack's name and just assumed that Cloud was him (which could apply to nu SOLDIER too, if he's heard "stories" but not names).

[Tom4784]

True, there aren't many active 1st Class at one time it seems so this could be someone that they recruited after the disappearance of Sephiroth and Zack. It also always seemed like Prez Shinra / the Turks etc. had no idea about Cloud in the original. Which TBH made sense with the president (who likely wasn't interested) but it was always odd that the Turks didn't know :think:. Unless, I suppose, they didn't know Zack's name and just assumed that Cloud was him (which could apply to nu SOLDIER too, if he's heard "stories" but not names).

I think, for the moment, it'll be best to disregard the VII compilation for the moment since I reckon the developers aren't paying attention to it in the development of this game. In terms of the remake's timeline, I wouldn't be surprised if they retconned Crisis Core out of existence along with all the other spinoff games given that they've said that the remake will be more of a re-imagining than anything else.

God, I wish they'd do a Crisis Core remaster at some point, I adored that game.

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[Tom4784]

After so many years of waiting, one more month won't make a difference to me.

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, I'm not really bothered by a months difference

[LukeB]

Does anyone have any idea when they will release the second part?

[Scarlett.]

Apparently they've already made significant progress on the 2nd part too, so I don't think its gonna be a case of a few years, that said, part 1 is a full game

[Tom4784]

Apparently they've already made significant progress on the 2nd part too, so I don't think its gonna be a case of a few years, that said, part 1 is a full game

I'm of the opinion that the past 6-7 years (if you factor in the time spent before the game's reveal in 2015) has been spent developing more than just Part 1 (the development team changed but they didn't throw out the work that cyberconnect did), My guess is that they've used the time to stagger the development in such a way that they've made enough progress on the future parts to release them yearly.

Three instalments, all wrapped up by 2022 is my bet.

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I'm of the opinion that the past 6-7 years (if you factor in the time spent before the game's reveal in 2015) has been spent developing more than just Part 1 (the development team changed but they didn't throw out the work that cyberconnect did), My guess is that they've used the time to stagger the development in such a way that they've made enough progress on the future parts to release them yearly.

Three instalments, all wrapped up by 2022 is my bet.

I can see that being the case, I don't forsee us waiting too long for each part. Once all of them are out they will probably have XVI soon after

[Tom4784]

I can see that being the case, I don't forsee us waiting too long for each part. Once all of them are out they will probably have XVI soon after

Yeah, there's a lot of fans that think the VII series will be going on for a decade but that's just not financially viable, I think.

Plus we're coming up to the time where XVI is due and it's a known thing that SE doesn't like overlapping projects (Versus was put on the backburner for XIII's sequels, KH3 had to wait it's turn while XV had it's DLC run and VIIR had to wait for KH3). Wrapping up the remakes by 2022 and having XVI out in 2023 seems likely to me.

[Scarlett.]

Yep, I think they're wanting to move in the direction of having their bigger games closer together

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Why are they splitting it into 3 parts anyway?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I never had a PS1 bc my parents were the it’ll interfere with schoolwork type :(

I lit only got my first proper home console when i was 18 jggjkh (360)

[Tom4784]

Why are they splitting it into 3 parts anyway?

The reasoning they've used is that the scope of the game with today's technology would be too big for one game.

Not sure how true that is but that's the reasoning they've used.

[Scarlett.]

The demo for VII Remake is out now!

[user104658]

The reasoning they've used is that the scope of the game with today's technology would be too big for one game.

Not sure how true that is but that's the reasoning they've used.

I mean it's nonsense as there are modern RPG's with as big (and bigger) scope than the original FF7 in terms of everything I can think of - Length of story, amount of dialogue, number of locations, number and variety of enemies...

That said so long as the content being used to fill out 3 games is new, meaningful and ... good ... not just obvious filler, then I'm happy enough with them stretching it out over a bigger scale. Even if it is to make three AAA games worth of profits with the same engine and assets :joker:.

[Scarlett.]

The game is apparently two discs long, so I don't think it will be short on content

[user104658]

The game is apparently two discs long, so I don't think it will be short on content

To be fair though I'm expecting the final result to showcase the absolute peak of PS4 capabilities... so the game assets are likely to be big.

[Scarlett.]

To be fair though I'm expecting the final result to showcase the absolute peak of PS4 capabilities... so the game assets are likely to be big.

The game did look very nice, but I'm not sure if its pushing any graphical boundaries, I think RDR2 is still pushing the envelope in that regard. They are also using CG cutscenes it seems (which I'm happy about for nostalgia's sake :laugh:)

[user104658]

The game did look very nice, but I'm not sure if its pushing any graphical boundaries, I think RDR2 is still pushing the envelope in that regard. They are also using CG cutscenes it seems (which I'm happy about for nostalgia's sake :laugh:)

True, I think the tech was already at capacity with things like RDR2 and Death Stranding. No matter one's stance on Death Stranding as a game, it being on the bleeding-edge for consoles is undeniable. It's probably the first game where it hasn't just been a case of "wow, that really does look so much like [actor]" ... it just IS Norman Reedus. And things like terrain and weather effects are IMO currently unparalleled.

I wonder how much HD space FFVII is going to need? I rarely buy physical copies but I know RDR2 was 2-disc and the digital download for that was gargantuan. I think it was something like 150gb+ when installed :umm2:

[Scarlett.]

I think the Remake has been confirmed to be around 100gb in size

[user104658]

Just played through the demo. MORE NOW PLZ.

Have they finally nailed the combination of active combat with a menu abilities system & party-based system where everyone's abilities, and actual tactics, matter? I was skeptical that they'd ever do it but it works :omgno:.

[user104658]

Me looking for the save point at the bottom of the ladder before setting the bomb

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Just played through the demo. MORE NOW PLZ.

Have they finally nailed the combination of active combat with a menu abilities system & party-based system where everyone's abilities, and actual tactics, matter? I was skeptical that they'd ever do it but it works :omgno:.

I was so worried the combat was gonna be like XV, but I'm really impressed

[user104658]

I was so worried the combat was gonna be like XV, but I'm really impressed

I think they've clearly learned a LOT from XV but have finally refined it into something that combines it with classic FF menu-based combat in a way that works. They were trying hard in XV, and it improved significantly from launch with various updates, but they never quite got there.

It also means things are looking very positive for main series entries going forward. An FF renaissance? :worry:

[user104658]

I will shamefully admit that the Guard Scorpion even killed me on my first try :joker:. I was assuming you could just hack at it and it would eventually go down; turns out you run out of healing LONG before it's dead if you don't use tactics D:.

[Scarlett.]

I think they've clearly learned a LOT from XV but have finally refined it into something that combines it with classic FF menu-based combat in a way that works. They were trying hard in XV, and it improved significantly from launch with various updates, but they never quite got there.

It also means things are looking very positive for main series entries going forward. An FF renaissance? :worry:

To be fair, XIV has been a shining beacon for the main series for years, especially now with Shadowbringers. :laugh:

I think with XV and KH3, the last of the mess from the Wada years at Square ended

[user104658]

Interesting some of the subtle changes they've gone for, e.g.

Sephiroth being teased early with the black feather.

Also a bigger one, to I guess avoid the risk of Avalanche getting less sympathy from a post-911 audience; in the original the Avalanche-planted bomb does indeed blow the reactor to hell. In the remake, the bomb is only a small explosion that disables the reactor without much collateral damage, but Prez Shinra has his forces immediately blow the whole thing to bits presumably to frame Avalanche as uncaring terrorists...

[Scarlett.]

Interesting some of the subtle changes they've gone for, e.g.

Sephiroth being teased early with the black feather.

Also a bigger one, to I guess avoid the risk of Avalanche getting less sympathy from a post-911 audience; in the original the Avalanche-planted bomb does indeed blow the reactor to hell. In the remake, the bomb is only a small explosion that disables the reactor without much collateral damage, but Prez Shinra has his forces immediately blow the whole thing to bits presumably to frame Avalanche as uncaring terrorists...

I'd always wonder how they'd do that scene in modern times, I don't really mind the change

[user104658]

I'd always wonder how they'd do that scene in modern times, I don't really mind the change

I don't think there was any real choice but to tone down Avalanche's activities... in original FF7 they are edging closer to being domestic terrorists than eco-warriors :umm2:. The change makes sense. Blowing the whole reactor to bits was a bit much. I assume events at the sector 5 reactor will be similarly altered. The "framing" isn't a huge change anyway, since obviously they were always eventually framed for the destruction of Sector 7.

[Scarlett.]

I don't think there was any real choice but to tone down Avalanche's activities... in original FF7 they are edging closer to being domestic terrorists than eco-warriors :umm2:. The change makes sense. Blowing the whole reactor to bits was a bit much. I assume events at the sector 5 reactor will be similarly altered. The "framing" isn't a huge change anyway, since obviously they were always eventually framed for the destruction of Sector 7.

Indeed, we live in different times than 1997, it makes you more sympathetic to Avalanche too

[user104658]

I played through it again :worry: I actually can't wait. Wish I hadn't played it :fist:

[LukeB]

THANKFULLY with what's going on in the world i pre-ordered this months ago, i hope it gets delivered though if there's a full lockdown :skull:

[user104658]

THANKFULLY with what's going on in the world i pre-ordered this months ago, i hope it gets delivered though if there's a full lockdown :skull:Thankfully I buy pretty much everything digital download these days anyway so no stock concerns there.

[LukeB]

Thankfully I buy pretty much everything digital download these days anyway so no stock concerns there.

I love the having physical copies because it seems cheaper than digital and as a gamer i like them. I could never sell a game so i just used it as some kind of collection

[user104658]

I love the having physical copies because it seems cheaper than digital and as a gamer i like them. I could never sell a game so i just used it as some kind of collectionIt is pretty much always loads cheaper compared to PlayStation Store but I've become impatient and lazy in my old age... I just want to press a button and wait for the download :joker:. Comes from years of using Steam, I think.

[Tom4784]

I've cancelled my physical copy pre-order. I'm just gonna order RE3 and FFVII through the PSN

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[user104658]

I've cancelled my physical copy pre-order.



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:skull: :joker:

Still risky to be fair, I suspect some will get it early but some will be left waiting beyond the 10th. At least with digital you know exactly when it'll be available.

[Tom4784]

:skull: :joker:

Still risky to be fair, I suspect some will get it early but some will be left waiting beyond the 10th. At least with digital you know exactly when it'll be available.

Gurl, don't.

Still, I'm glad I know i'll be playing it on release. Getting it early would have been nice but getting it on release means I have more than enough time to beat Re3.

[LukeB]

My final fantasy has been dispatched :love:

[LukeB]

I get mine tomorrow
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[Scarlett.]

Got mine!

[user104658]

:idc: ... don't even care ... ... bet it's not even fun ... probably buggy and getting a huge day 1 patch on the 10th anyway... ... ... :hmph: ... ... :bawling:

[user104658]

To be frr my PS4 sounds like a helicopter struggling to take off when it loads off of a physical disk, so probably better off waiting :joker:

[Tom4784]

Yeah, with all the uncertainty from Shopto, I'm glad I went for Digital, it gives me enough time to give RE3 a run for it's money.

[Scarlett.]

I got it from ShopTo lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUmXXC7XkAACSng?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

I just dunno if I can quite justify £50 for Resi 3 right now :umm2:. Not when I just shelled out £75 for the digital deluxe pre-order of FF7. We'll see I guess. I mean it's not like I have a whole lot else to spend money on right now. But Resi 2 dropped to £34.99 pretty quickly on PC last year, I might just leave it until after FF7 as there may well have been a drop by the time I get though that. I also probably won't 100% finish Resi3 in a week and I'll definitely drop it like a cold bag of sick on the 10th :worry:

[Tom4784]

I got it from ShopTo lol
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUmXXC7XkAACSng?format=jpg&name=small

Put the salt pot down, missy!

[Tom4784]

I just dunno if I can quite justify £50 for Resi 3 right now :umm2:. Not when I just shelled out £75 for the digital deluxe pre-order of FF7. We'll see I guess. I mean it's not like I have a whole lot else to spend money on right now. But Resi 2 dropped to £34.99 pretty quickly on PC last year, I might just leave it until after FF7 as there may well have been a drop by the time I get though that. I also probably won't 100% finish Resi3 in a week and I'll definitely drop it like a cold bag of sick on the 10th :worry:

Given how much I adored RE2 last year, RE3 was pretty much an essential purchase for me. I did also have Persona 5 Royal pre-ordered but I decided to cancel that one since it would have fallen by the wayside.

[Scarlett.]

Put the salt pot down, missy!

:laugh:

[user104658]

Given how much I adored RE2 last year, RE3 was pretty much an essential purchase for me. I did also have Persona 5 Royal pre-ordered but I decided to cancel that one since it would have fallen by the wayside.Tbh as much as I did enjoy Persona in the end, I'd only buy Royal if it was released on Switch. Extra content and characters isn't enough for a full replay that would take up "dedicated gaming time" (which is limited these days) but I'd play through it if I could hop on and off in little bits of downtime. I've ploughed through Fire Emblem that way, mostly whilst cooking or sat on the toilet :joker:

[Scarlett.]

I'm 21 hours in and quite honestly its the most fun game I've played in a long time, and one of the best Final Fantasy games yet.

[Barry.]

Mine comes the 11th of April I think.

[user104658]

I'm 21 hours in and quite honestly its the most fun game I've played in a long time, and one of the best Final Fantasy games yet.

3 days D: D: D:

[user104658]

Mine comes the 11th of April I think.

Ew you shoulda gone digital, unlocks at 12.00am Thursday night/Friday morning. File is already up for pre-load :D

[Scarlett.]

My PS4 broke so I've not been able to play since my last post lol, new one should be here today

[user104658]

My PS4 broke so I've not been able to play since my last post lol, new one should be here todayOmg :worry: mine has been playing up for over 6 months. Is FF7 going to finish her off?

[user104658]

It's pre-loaded and there's a little countdown clock for activation. Come onnn stupid clock.

I am a bit ashamed to admit that after announcing it was up for early pre-load, it took me 36 hours to find the download [emoji52]... Turns out you have to go via the game library, not the PS Store :joker:. But not to worry, the rather large download (90gb lol) finished over night and it's now ready to go at midnight.

[Scarlett.]

Omg :worry: mine has been playing up for over 6 months. Is FF7 going to finish her off?

Might be worth making sure the fans are cleaned lol

[user104658]

Might be worth making sure the fans are cleaned lolThe issue with mine is the HDMI controller, it cuts out (black screen) at random for a few seconds. It was doing it constantly at one point until I moved the console to a more open place and "propped" the cable in an exact way. It probably does it once for 2-3 seconds every hour or so of play now.

The thing is, the problem probably was heat related in the first place but... I now can't risk touching or moving the console at all or it might make it worse! A terrible catch-22 :worry:

[Scarlett.]

The issue with mine is the HDMI controller, it cuts out (black screen) at random for a few seconds. It was doing it constantly at one point until I moved the console to a more open place and "propped" the cable in an exact way. It probably does it once for 2-3 seconds every hour or so of play now.

The thing is, the problem probably was heat related in the first place but... I now can't risk touching or moving the console at all or it might make it worse! A terrible catch-22 :worry:

Hmm, the screen randomly goes black for a few moments? That was happening with my brand new PS4 Pro, and I just switched my old HDMI for the one that came with the console and it works fine now.

[user104658]

Hmm, the screen randomly goes black for a few moments? That was happening with my brand new PS4 Pro, and I just switched my old HDMI for the one that came with the console and it works fine now.Hmmmm. I've tried more than one cable but to be fair, none of them are the official Sony one that came with the console. Come to think of it, when I moved it and it got significantly better, I plugged it into the cable that came with the Switch (as it was easier to swap the cable into the console than the one in the back of the TV). But Switch isn't 4k so might still not be good enough?

Might buy a high quality cable and see if it helps.

That said, I had been using the same cable for years before it started doing it,and wiggling the HDMI plug makes weird green artefacts appear on the screen, so I think there's definitely an issue with the port too.

I had it in a cupboard section of the TV unit with the door closed - but no back on that section so airflow was fine... The fan had been going wild for a few days when the glitching started and when I opened the cupboard door I discovered that a cardboard box that I stuffed behind the unit at some point had fallen over and blocked the back of that cupboard :umm2:

So my theory is that it was overheating and the heat damaged the HDMI port itself or loosened a solder or something.

I just don't want to pay for it to be fixed or buy a whole new console when the PS5 is out next year :think:.

[user104658]

Am I remembering it wrong or in the demo could you spam potions? Items are an ATB function now but I distinctly remember spamming them to beat the boss in the demo :joker:.

Not a complaint, it feels more balanced this way, I'm just wondering if I'm remembering it right :think:

[Scarlett.]

Hmmmm. I've tried more than one cable but to be fair, none of them are the official Sony one that came with the console. Come to think of it, when I moved it and it got significantly better, I plugged it into the cable that came with the Switch (as it was easier to swap the cable into the console than the one in the back of the TV). But Switch isn't 4k so might still not be good enough?

Might buy a high quality cable and see if it helps.

That said, I had been using the same cable for years before it started doing it,and wiggling the HDMI plug makes weird green artefacts appear on the screen, so I think there's definitely an issue with the port too.

I had it in a cupboard section of the TV unit with the door closed - but no back on that section so airflow was fine... The fan had been going wild for a few days when the glitching started and when I opened the cupboard door I discovered that a cardboard box that I stuffed behind the unit at some point had fallen over and blocked the back of that cupboard :umm2:

So my theory is that it was overheating and the heat damaged the HDMI port itself or loosened a solder or something.

I just don't want to pay for it to be fixed or buy a whole new console when the PS5 is out next year :think:.

Hmm, yeah it definitely sounds like its more of an issue with the port itself


I wasted a bunch of time doing this the other night, lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVMCmBNXgAA6o-f?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

I played until 3am last night and didn't have any black-screens so maybe she has HEALED my PS4?

[LukeB]

I played until 3am last night and didn't have any black-screens so maybe she has HEALED my PS4?

Reasons to move final fantasy?

[Scarlett.]

I played until 3am last night and didn't have any black-screens so maybe she has HEALED my PS4?

Fingers crossed!

[Tom4784]

I'm at the end of Chapter 4 and I'm loving it so far.

[Scarlett.]

I'm slowly getting back to where I was, I'm so overlevelled this time though xD

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVPVGnYUMAA3tJb?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

I'm slowly getting back to where I was, I'm so overlevelled this time though xD

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVPVGnYUMAA3tJb?format=jpg&name=small:omgno: you lost your save? No cloud saves?

Also so far at least, I feel that I was right with what I said after seeing some YouTube videos before release... Playing as Tifa is loads more fun than Cloud :joker:. Also she feels slightly OP because of how fast her ATB builds compared to the others?

[Scarlett.]

:omgno: you lost your save? No cloud saves?

Also so far at least, I feel that I was right with what I said after seeing some YouTube videos before release... Playing as Tifa is loads more fun than Cloud :joker:. Also she feels slightly OP because of how fast her ATB builds compared to the others?

Tifa is definately fun to play, as is Aerith.

Yeah, it hadn't uploaded the most recent saves of P5R and FF7R xD

[user104658]

Ugh. I did once lose a 100hr Fallout 4 save once... But I ended up liking my new character loads more anyway.

[Tom4784]

Yeah, Tifa's a lot of fun. The skill she gets with her second weapon is quite insane since she can just stagger enemies in seconds with it.

I've just done Chapter 6 which was an utter pain in the arse, mainly due to trying to get all the optional materia.

[LukeB]

probably a silly question but is this easier or harder than the original?

[Tom4784]

probably a silly question but is this easier or harder than the original?

Definitely harder, I keep playing too aggressively and paying for it. You've really got to remember to be defensive in this game.

[LukeB]

Definitely harder, I keep playing too aggressively and paying for it. You've really got to remember to be defensive in this game.

i will definitely going to take that on board and i need to remember to focus on my levels too because that's my downfall. I'm stuck on 9,10,13 and 15 because i can't defeat a boss because my levels are crap.

[user104658]

i will definitely going to take that on board and i need to remember to focus on my levels too because that's my downfall. I'm stuck on 9,10,13 and 15 because i can't defeat a boss because my levels are crap.

9 I get, 10 I get if the boss you got stuck on was Seymour Flux or Yunalesca (first time fighting Yunalesca was my only Game Over in the whole FFX main storyline :fist: ) ...

... But how do you get stuck on 13 or 15 :shrug:

[user104658]

Definitely harder, I keep playing too aggressively and paying for it. You've really got to remember to be defensive in this game.

I think playing the demo helped with this; it was not possible to beat the Scorpion in the demo without extensively using block/dodge/terrain cover.

I'm pretty sure they nerfed it for the full release and you didn't need to be as defensive. But then, if they'd left it like the demo too many n00bs would have rage quit in the first hour :hehe:.

Although like I said before I'm convinced you could also spam potions in the demo...

[Scarlett.]

It's worth noting, there has been no day one patch and I've not heard any report of any bugs at all

[Tom4784]

I think playing the demo helped with this; it was not possible to beat the Scorpion in the demo without extensively using block/dodge/terrain cover.

I'm pretty sure they nerfed it for the full release and you didn't need to be as defensive. But then, if they'd left it like the demo too many n00bs would have rage quit in the first hour :hehe:.

Although like I said before I'm convinced you could also spam potions in the demo...

I think you're thinking of XV? Potions were dependant on ATB in the demo.

[Tom4784]

It's worth noting, there has been no day one patch and I've not heard any report of any bugs at all

The benefits of delaying it, I guess. Gave them more time to iron out what bugs there were.

[LukeB]

9 I get, 10 I get if the boss you got stuck on was Seymour Flux or Yunalesca (first time fighting Yunalesca was my only Game Over in the whole FFX main storyline :fist: ) ...

... But how do you get stuck on 13 or 15 :shrug:

icr the 15 boss i'm stuck on but 13 had Barthandelus (third form) and that is NOT EASY:bawling:

[user104658]

icr the 15 boss i'm stuck on but 13 had Barthandelus (third form) and that is NOT EASY:bawling:

Ahh I actually remember that battle, with all the faces? Yeah to be fair the chapter 9 and 10 battles are probably the hardest in the game, because in Chapter 11 you get the "more open" section of the game where you can spend time levelling up... which means the late chapter bosses are actually much easier than the ones at the end of the "linear" chapters 1 - 10.

If you've been farming Adamantoise the final chapters are a breeze :joker:

[user104658]

It's worth noting, there has been no day one patch and I've not heard any report of any bugs at all

Historically FF games have been great for being polished & bug free at release... I think we all just lost a bit of trust after XV which let's face it still feels like an unfinished game even with them dropping patch after patch on it for years.


I think you're thinking of XV? Potions were dependant on ATB in the demo.

Are you sure?? I remember ploughing through potions (and also the battle taking much longer than it did in the full game) :think:. Very confused.

[user104658]

Speaking of XV though, I can definitely "feel" plenty of XV in VII-remake and with the city setting... it sort of feels like the game that XV (or at least, Versus XIII) was supposed to be.

[Scarlett.]

Definately, its further proof that XV should have been a more linear game. I'm so sad we never got to visit half the planned out cities.

[user104658]

Definately, its further proof that XV should have been a more linear game. I'm so sad we never got to visit half the planned out cities.

The world they laid out in Kingsglaive was such a great setting. A pity that it was never to be :joker:.

[Scarlett.]

Wall Market spoilers
The Honeybee Inn sequence is so good, such a fantastic celebration of cabaret

[user104658]

My shakey thumb spent ages getting the top of the darts board, I was expecting like a materia or something but it was just a PS trophy :hmph:

[Tom4784]

My shakey thumb spent ages getting the top of the darts board, I was expecting like a materia or something but it was just a PS trophy :hmph:

You get some materia for it.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

How many parts is there gonna be for this

[Tom4784]

How many parts is there gonna be for this

No one knows but I can't see it being more than three.

Each part will be it's own fully fledged game, people are logging 30-40 hours for this game alone.

[user104658]

You get some materia for it.:suspect: when? I got nothing! I did it straight away when you have to "wait around" at 7th heaven.

[Tom4784]

:suspect: when? I got nothing! I did it straight away when you have to "wait around" at 7th heaven.

Chapter 4, I believe. Wedge will comment on you beating his top score and give you the materia.

[user104658]

Chapter 4, I believe. Wedge will comment on you beating his top score and give you the materia.Ooooh, I think I'm just on Chapter 4 now. Cloud and Tifa have just fought off a swarm of dementors from Harry Potter. It's a crossover episode.

[user104658]

I've got such a compulsion to play OG FFVII after I finish this :joker:

[Scarlett.]

Remake Ending spoilers:
Did they just pull a Star Trek esque Kelvin Timeline twist?

I'm totally on board if they did, I don't mind a different story if its happening in a different timeline.

[Tom4784]

The Honeybee Inn was amazing :flutter:

[Scarlett.]

It was so well done lol

[Tom4784]

I've just got to the start of Chapter 11, Chapter 10 was a bit dull but I'm looking forward to this one.

[user104658]

I'm lagging behind on Chapter 8. It took me so long to find the elemental materia on the underplate... I totally missed the ladder that leads to it... Running around aimlessly for hours.

[Tom4784]

I'm lagging behind on Chapter 8. It took me so long to find the elemental materia on the underplate... I totally missed the ladder that leads to it... Running around aimlessly for hours.

I did the same, I hate that chapter. I think the whole journey to Reactor 5 was far too padded tbh.

[user104658]

I did the same, I hate that chapter. I think the whole journey to Reactor 5 was far too padded tbh.I quite enjoyed MOST of the chapter but yeah I thought the underplate maze was a little too bloated, and also the path to the Air Buster with the "removing parts" stuff was longer than it needed to be and killed a bit of the build up (two opportunities to choose an aspect to target would have been plenty, IMO).

[user104658]

I was worried they'd 5one down Corneo but :joker: he's so sinister and gross. The whole Wall Market section was surreal, and great.

But I was not ready for Chapter 12 at all. :bawling:

I was also marginally disappointed that then they swung out of the pillar on the cable, Cloud did not mount Barrett's arm like a horse. One of my fav parts of the original :flutter:.

[Tom4784]

I'm about ten minutes into Chapter 17. I reckon I'll have the game completed before long.

[Tom4784]

I was worried they'd 5one down Corneo but :joker: he's so sinister and gross. The whole Wall Market section was surreal, and great.

But I was not ready for Chapter 12 at all. :bawling:

I was also marginally disappointed that then they swung out of the pillar on the cable, Cloud did not mount Barrett's arm like a horse. One of my fav parts of the original :flutter:.

Wall Market was such a well done chapter. I loved the new characters, the way they did the cross dressing was both hilarious yet considerate and I loved the whole musical routine. Also Hell House might be one of my favourite boss fights in the game.

Chapter 12 hit a lot harder this time then it did in the original.

[user104658]

Wall Market was such a well done chapter. I loved the new characters, the way they did the cross dressing was both hilarious yet considerate and I loved the whole musical routine. Also Hell House might be one of my favourite boss fights in the game.



Chapter 12 hit a lot harder this time then it did in the original.

I liked the overall concept of hell house too, it was such a random enemy in the original that just showed up in the junkyard area, no explanation for Wtf it actually is or why it would exist. I like that they leaned into how illogical the whole thing is, and explained it as being a bizarre idea that Corneo had come up with and probably said "YES I said a giant robot house! Just make it happen!"

Re ch. 12... Jessie was always sad but Biggs was such a nothing-character in the original. I teared right up when he was talking with Cloud in the tower :bawling:.

Im about half way through chapter 13 now, have to say that the game (though its been good from the start) really picked up after Reactor 5 (with Aerith being introduced, then Wall Market) and has been pretty much flawless since that point.

[user104658]

Also... For it to continue to be as fleshed-out as this part has been, I honestly can't see them doing the whole thing in 3 parts?

I'm also a touch confused about how progression will work going forward, I mean later-game magics and abilities like the -agas start appearing through natural game progression less than half way through this... When normally you wouldnt have them by the END of Midgar without doing some significant grinding. You also don't get even one new weapon for Cloud until post-midgar.

Im hoping they have a solid plan and haven't just focused on making one great game without knowing how to expand it into the full story...

[Tom4784]

I liked the overall concept of hell house too, it was such a random enemy in the original that just showed up in the junkyard area, no explanation for Wtf it actually is or why it would exist. I like that they leaned into how illogical the whole thing is, and explained it as being a bizarre idea that Corneo had come up with and probably said "YES I said a giant robot house! Just make it happen!"

Re ch. 12... Jessie was always sad but Biggs was such a nothing-character in the original. I teared right up when he was talking with Cloud in the tower :bawling:.

Im about half way through chapter 13 now, have to say that the game (though its been good from the start) really picked up after Reactor 5 (with Aerith being introduced, then Wall Market) and has been pretty much flawless since that point.

It's a great little homage to a beloved enemy, I like that, despite how strange most of FFVII's enemies were, they've been lovingly recreated in the remake without barely anything left out.

Yeah, I was really fond of all three Avalanche members in this game, they did a really good job with giving them more development.

The two chapters leading up to Reactor 5 are the worst in the game so far for me, there didn't need to be two chapters and they were filler to the extreme, I think they should have combined the two into one chapter and given us more backstory and development for other characters. I think every other chapters (Except 10, which was a little bleh) has been excellent so far. I particularly loved what they did with the Train Graveyard, it's such a small part of the original but they gave it it's own lore and feel and really put some time into making what was a filler area in the original seem like more here.

[Tom4784]

Also... For it to continue to be as fleshed-out as this part has been, I honestly can't see them doing the whole thing in 3 parts?

I'm also a touch confused about how progression will work going forward, I mean later-game magics and abilities like the -agas start appearing through natural game progression less than half way through this... When normally you wouldnt have them by the END of Midgar without doing some significant grinding. You also don't get even one new weapon for Cloud until post-midgar.

Im hoping they have a solid plan and haven't just focused on making one great game without knowing how to expand it into the full story...

I still think it'll be a trilogy mainly because Midgar is unique in the original in that we spend more time there then any other place, it's a huge area in that game and no other location compares in terms of size. I think Part 2 will cover the rest of Disc 1, I think certain areas will look huge and expanded but places like Costa Del Sol will probably still be a small part of the game. I don't think there will be a world map but you'll have open areas (mainly the Golden Saucer/Cosmo Canyon area, I'm guessing) where you'll be able to explore and quest freely.

I don't think they'll expand any other location quite like they did with Midgar. I think areas like Cosmo Canyon, Wutai and Nibelheim will be longer (especially the latter since I can see them dipping their toes into the horror pool with the mansion) but I don't think they'll focus on one area enough to justify it as it's own game. I think the theme of Part 2 will probably be about exploring the world and since you do most of that in Disc 1, I think it'll form Part 2.

You could easily cover the reunion and the Meteor Arc in part 3, I think.

As for progression, I dunno. At first I was certain everything would carry over but now I'm not sure.

I got a feeling we'll find out before long though, since I've always believed that they're farther ahead on the future parts then they are willing to admit, especially if they keep the same graphics and gameplay engines. I can see them taking these five years since the reveal to potentially get themselves into a position to do yearly releases comfortably for future parts. If that's the case, we'll probably hear about Part 2 in June.

[user104658]

Yeah I have questions about what will carry over, I can see the next game simply starting with a "more powerful default" although personally I'd much prefer it if the save data did transfer.

I've been hearing rumours that they might retcon Aerith's death :umm2: or, perhaps, have her be resurrected. There were those rumours that you could do it in the original (everyone knew someone who "had really done it!" :joker: ) and then also follow-up rumours that it was originally intended to be part of the storyline but was cut to get the game out in time. I'd say that's probably not entirely true either but who knows.

It's such a huge part of the story arc (and gaming history tbh) that it would be a bad move in my opinion... :worry:

[Scarlett.]

Since you have both reached Hell House, I noticed this FFXIV easter egg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVVEfiqWoAAKS7M?format=jpg&name=medium

[Tom4784]

Yeah I have questions about what will carry over, I can see the next game simply starting with a "more powerful default" although personally I'd much prefer it if the save data did transfer.

I've been hearing rumours that they might retcon Aerith's death :umm2: or, perhaps, have her be resurrected. There were those rumours that you could do it in the original (everyone knew someone who "had really done it!" :joker: ) and then also follow-up rumours that it was originally intended to be part of the storyline but was cut to get the game out in time. I'd say that's probably not entirely true either but who knows.

It's such a huge part of the story arc (and gaming history tbh) that it would be a bad move in my opinion... :worry:

I think Aerith's death is written in stone, remember when we meet her in Chapter 8 and we get that quick little flashforward of her materia dropping from the platform? I can't imagine them changing her fate, it's too iconic.

I think some things will carry over but not everything. I think DLC materia will carry over, Enemy skills etc.

I think magic materia probably won't since it levelled quickly in this game anyway.

[user104658]

I can't do the pro pull-ups. I just can't. It made me rage quit.

[Tom4784]

I completed it last night, I loved the game as a whole but I can see why people are angry about the last chapter.

[user104658]

End spoilers Umm. I think it was all great as a standalone game. At this point however, it has some fundamental differences that make it a spin-off (or even a pseudo-sequel?) and not a remake.

I'm mostly here for it I think but I have a few narrative gripes regarding are Sephiroth. FIRSTLY... They've had him go One Winged Angel far, far too early? His character was still developing at this point in the main game he had only just taken Jenova, which applies here too, and yet he's approaching fully developed form. How, and why? I can't think of a narrative reason - the only reason I can think of is "to make a better boss fight" and I'm not sure about that one.

ALSO - and this is a big one for me - a huge story beat of the original is that Cloud at the point of leaving Midgar is supposed to be a bit of a joke compared to Sephiroth, and nowhere near able to go toe to toe with him. Seph could swat him like a fly. The entire journey of the game sees Cloud gain real power to the point that he can go one on one with Sephiroth and win, which Sephiroth did not expect.

Sure he didn't win overall here but they were FAR too closely matched. There was a very good reason that you never actually had this sort of battle against Sephiroth until the end of the whole game. It should have been over in seconds.

Perhaps I can head-cannon it as him pulling his punches? Meh.

There's also no reasonable explanation for Biggs being alive. He was ON the pillar when it came down.

I can see there being big changes going forward but I'm hesitant tbh.

[Tom4784]

End spoilers Umm. I think it was all great as a standalone game. At this point however, it has some fundamental differences that make it a spin-off (or even a pseudo-sequel?) and not a remake.

I'm mostly here for it I think but I have a few narrative gripes regarding are Sephiroth. FIRSTLY... They've had him go One Winged Angel far, far too early? His character was still developing at this point in the main game he had only just taken Jenova, which applies here too, and yet he's approaching fully developed form. How, and why? I can't think of a narrative reason - the only reason I can think of is "to make a better boss fight" and I'm not sure about that one.

ALSO - and this is a big one for me - a huge story beat of the original is that Cloud at the point of leaving Midgar is supposed to be a bit of a joke compared to Sephiroth, and nowhere near able to go toe to toe with him. Seph could swat him like a fly. The entire journey of the game sees Cloud gain real power to the point that he can go one on one with Sephiroth and win, which Sephiroth did not expect.

Sure he didn't win overall here but they were FAR too closely matched. There was a very good reason that you never actually had this sort of battle against Sephiroth until the end of the whole game. It should have been over in seconds.

Perhaps I can head-cannon it as him pulling his punches? Meh.

There's also no reasonable explanation for Biggs being alive. He was ON the pillar when it came down.

I can see there being big changes going forward but I'm hesitant tbh.

I wouldn't call it anything other than a remake, it's just a smart remake that's decided to do it's own thing with the original story. We only have to look to Hollywood with Psycho and Lion King to know how disastrous faithful remakes can turn out to be.

I don't think Cloud was evenly matched for Sephiroth at all, we obviously have to be seen as winning the battle gameplay wise but we see in the scene afterwards that Sephiroth is essentially playing with his food. In my own headcanon, I tend to believe that Cloud's abilities were enhanced by being in the singularity, he's not going to teleport over the place normally but within the Whisper's playground, he can.

Biggs and Jessie were probably saved by the Whispers, my theory is that they'll play a role in the Attack on Midgar where they'll likely meet their ends in the process. Whispers kept them around for them to fulfill their part, essentially. I do agree that it wasn't needed though as it did lessen chapter 12's impact quite a bit.

The whole point of the Whispers were to essentially give the writers creative license to do things differently and that's exciting but from what I've heard, the devs aren't going to change the main story beats too much.

A lot of people think that the game will end up dealing with time travel due to the Zack tease at the end but I don't see it. I think it'll be a red herring and Zack will have still died propr to the game's beginning, it'll just happen later then it did originally. My guess is that he'll have an encounter with Sephiroth that'll prove vital down the line when Meteor comes into play.

[LukeB]

So this is going to be free for ps plus members this month

[Tom4784]

The only caveat is that the free PS5 upgrade isn't included with the PS+ version.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I wanna suck biggs’ toes

[Tom4784]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/31/e0/92/31e092658c06a25977881d396955d70e.gif

[user104658]

Does the free upgrade from PS4 come with the Yuffie DLC or is that extra? :think:

[Tom4784]

Does the free upgrade from PS4 come with the Yuffie DLC or is that extra? :think:

Yuffie is paid DLC unless you buy the PS5 version... I think.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I’m up to the bit where you have to gain access to the house to rescue tifa by fighting in the arena and i love this game but why the **** is one of the boss fights a literal house

[user104658]

I’m up to the bit where you have to gain access to the house to rescue tifa by fighting in the arena and i love this game but why the **** is one of the boss fights a literal house

A nod to a standard enemy in the original

https://i.imgur.com/EHZmjsm.png

... but there's actually MORE explanation for its existence in the remake. In the original there's none at all it's literally just an enemy type that shows up sometimes in one specific zone.

[Scarlett.]

I love that one of Hellhouse's moves is 'Heavensward'

[LukeB]

Is Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade part 2?

[Scarlett.]

Is Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade part 2?

It's the PS5 upgrade, with the Yuffie DLC, I wouldnt expect to see Part 2 until Final Fantasy XVI is out.

[user104658]

It's the PS5 upgrade, with the Yuffie DLC, I wouldnt expect to see Part 2 until Final Fantasy XVI is out.

I was expecting yearly releases for the parts, I dunno if I'm up for the long waits inbetween and undertake the extra-long wait until all parts are released before continuing :umm2:. It could be a long time I know but we've watied decades for this already and imagine what an epic journey it'll be if there are several more games to play one after the other as one huge game :flutter:.

[Tom4784]

I honestly think the plan was probably for yearly or bi-yearly releases but I think Covid has screwed that up. With the graphics and gameplay systems in place, it shouldn't take as long as it did for the first to come out when it comes to the other parts. I can see Part 2 and Part 3 releasing relatively close together (like a year or two between them).

I can't see the remake series being any longer than three parts, really.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

MY GOD DOES THIS GAME EvER ****ING END

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I screamed @

Avalanche!
Local florist!
Lab rat dog!

Like that was the exact moment that cemented this as one of my fav games of all time

[Tom4784]

MY GOD DOES THIS GAME EvER ****ING END

Which chapter are you on?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Which chapter are you on?

18

Just past the bit where aerith opens that magic portal and you cross over and fight that weird giant monster made of black tentacles

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

But i’m drunk like i cba

[Tom4784]

18

Just past the bit where aerith opens that magic portal and you cross over and fight that weird giant monster made of black tentacles

Ah, you've just got the last boss fights then, probably about 45 minutes in all?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

I finished it i’m so confused

[Tom4784]

If you've not played the original, you won't really understand the ending much, but it will all become clear in the next parts, I expect.