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Nicky91
13-05-2019, 07:21 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-48243535?platform=hootsuite
Thousands of mothers and their families have staged a march in central London to demand action on climate change.
The Mothers Rise Up protest was led by eleven 11-year-olds to represent the deadline of 2030 for tackling global warming, set by the United Nations.
The march, which began near Hyde Park Corner and ended at Parliament Square, was held in support of youth strikes nationwide.
Similar marches are taking place across the country and internationally.
Rosamund Kissi-Debrah, whose daughter Ella suffered a fatal asthma attack believed to be linked to air pollution, addressed the rally.
"If you deal with air pollution it means you will also deal with climate change", she said.
"Everyone here needs to be bothered about the impact of air pollution. My daughter died a very, very horrible death.
"If you live near a main road you should be angry. I'm too heartbroken to be angry."
A 2018 report said it was likely unlawful levels of pollution, which were detected at a monitoring station one mile from Ella's home, contributed to her fatal asthma attack.
TV presenter Konnie Huq, comedian Shappi Khorsandi and lawyer and activist Farhana Yamin also addressed the crowds at the rally.
Ms Huq told the crowds that the march had been organised by mothers in between changing nappies and dropping children off.
She added: "The reason we are here is because of the youth strikes - the young people have been putting us to shame and it's time for us adults to take responsibility."
Health Secretary Matt Hancock announced on Saturday that he has commissioned Public Health England (PHE) to carry out a review of the impact of dirty air on the nation's health.
"This review will help us map out how much disease is caused by dirty air and what steps we are taking to prevent this - something which is at the heart of our work to help people live longer, healthier lives through the NHS Long Term Plan."
arista
13-05-2019, 07:43 AM
Yes Nicky
nothing new.
Except Nappies
that should not go into landfill
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 07:50 AM
Yes Nicky
nothing new.
Except Nappies
that should not go into landfill
still something must be done at this, otherwise we are all gonna die in 11 yrs from now on
#BetterClimate4Everyone #Fight4AHealthyLife
arista
13-05-2019, 08:02 AM
still something must be done at this, otherwise we are all gonna die in 11 yrs from now on
#BetterClimate4Everyone #Fight4AHealthyLife
How are we going to Die?
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 08:32 AM
How are we going to Die?
bad climate of course
arista
13-05-2019, 08:34 AM
bad climate of course
Some will may Die
not all of us.
You need a Hill.
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 08:38 AM
Yes Nicky
nothing new.
Except Nappies
that should not go into landfill
Exactly , arista it's all well and good protesting about these things and demanding changes , but how many of us are guilty of adding to these problems , most of us drive , use plastic , waste food , baby wipes and nappies are a major problem, so we all need to do our bit , not standing out there protesting and blaming everyone else . Actions speak louder than words.
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 08:39 AM
Exactly , arista it's all well and good protesting about these things and demanding changes , but how many of us are guilty of adding to these problems , most of us drive , use plastic , waste food , baby wipes and nappies are a major problem, so we all need to do our bit , not standing out there protesting and blaming everyone else.
protests should go on and aimed more towards that stupid ignorant british parliament
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 08:44 AM
protests should go on and aimed more towards that stupid ignorant british parliament
I doubt they are stupid and ignorant, I am sure they are well aware of climate change and we have at least put things in place, but you cannot just blame other people, if someone throws a plastic bottle or bag into the sea , that is not the governments fault, its the lazy sod who couldn't be arsed to find a bin.:nono: the blame game will not stop climate change , getting off our arses and doing something constructive will, not standing in some city shouting about what we want.
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 08:45 AM
I doubt they are stupid and ignorant, I am sure they are well aware of climate change and we have at least put things in place, but you cannot just blame other people, if someone throws a plastic bottle or bag into the sea , that is not the governments fault, its the lazy sod who couldn't be arsed to find a bin.:nono: the blame game will not stop climate change , getting off our arses and doing something constructive will, not standing in some city shouting about what we want.
going on and on about brexit, when there's other problems out there
brexit is unnecessary, a healthy climate is necessary for us all to live in
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 08:54 AM
going on and on about brexit, when there's other problems out there
brexit is unnecessary, a healthy climate is necessary for us all to live in
I think we all know a healthy climate is necessary ,how do you propose we do that ? as for Brexit of course it's necessary when people have voted for it, it would have been sorted ages ago had others who don't want to leave kept blocking it . People seem to think being the PM is easy , it's not. This is not about Brexit anyway it's about climate change.This was happening way before Brexit anyway.
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 08:59 AM
I think we all know a healthy climate is necessary ,how do you propose we do that ? as for Brexit of course it's necessary when people have voted for it, it would have been sorted ages ago had others who don't want to leave kept blocking it . People seem to think being the PM is easy , it's not. This is not about Brexit anyway it's about climate change.This was happening way before Brexit anyway.
i don't know myself how, but bad climate i think is mostly caused by poisonous gasses from cars, airplanes, buses, motorcycles and also nuclear power plants
however some of these things are necessary such as nuclear power plants to provide people with electricity
so i don't know the solution to this climate problem myself
arista
13-05-2019, 10:07 AM
going on and on about brexit, when there's other problems out there
brexit is unnecessary, a healthy climate is necessary for us all to live in
Yes we are where we are, though
Brexit needs to get sorted
Livia
13-05-2019, 10:59 AM
Awww I think it's nice, all the girls having an outing. They obviously don't work, they've driven their husband's 4x4 up to London for they day, they'll probably make a picnic of it! Hope they don't leave all their single use plastic bottles and carrier bags behind this time.
Meanwhile, I'll continue recycling, reusing, relying on my solar panels and water meter, taking the train instead of driving and everything else I do to help. The same as most of us do. I believe these protests are a misplaced vanity project. Perhaps they can choose to wander past some of the embassies of countries who are the worst polluters?
protests should go on and aimed more towards that stupid ignorant british parliament
Holland is a low-lying country, perhaps you'd like to tell us what your own stupid, ignorant parliament are doing to make sure you don't end up below sea level?
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 11:01 AM
Awww I think it's nice, all the girls having an outing. They obviously don't work, they've driven their husband's 4x4 up to London for they day, they'll probably make a picnic of it! Hope they don't leave all their single use plastic bottles and carrier bags behind this time.
Meanwhile, I'll continue recycling, reusing, relying on my solar panels and water meter, taking the train instead of driving and everything else I do to help. The same as most of us do. I believe these protests are a misplaced vanity project. Perhaps they can choose to wander past some of the embassies of countries who are the worst polluters?
Holland is a low-lying country, perhaps you'd like to tell us what your own stupid, ignorant parliament are doing to make sure you don't end up below sea level?
there have been protests for climate here as well, also remarks aimed at our parliament yes :laugh: funny you mention that
Livia
13-05-2019, 11:05 AM
there have been protests for climate here as well, also remarks aimed at our parliament yes :laugh: funny you mention that
Not on here there haven't been.
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 11:08 AM
Not on here there haven't been.
nope, correct there haven't been
look we can do our share keeping the world clean but parliament can do more regarding all the filth in the oceans from tankers, cargo ships, keeping our oceans clean
i guess we could do with less nuclear power plants, to keep our ozon layer a lot cleaner
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 11:15 AM
nope, correct there haven't been
look we can do our share keeping the world clean but parliament can do more regarding all the filth in the oceans from tankers, cargo ships, keeping our oceans clean
i guess we could do with less nuclear power plants, to keep our ozon layer a lot cleaner
How can parliament stop unscrupulous people emptying their filth into the oceans , plus ,what about all the plastic ? whatever rules are in place lazy arses don't care and will break the law , I mean look at the litter still dropped, it's up to each and everyone of us not just governments . Until we ALL take some responsibility , nothing will change.
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 11:24 AM
How can parliament stop unscrupulous people emptying their filth into the oceans , plus ,what about all the plastic ? whatever rules are in place lazy arses don't care and will break the law , I mean look at the litter still dropped, it's up to each and everyone of us not just governments . Until we ALL take some responsibility , nothing will change.
i thought they might have more power at that than us
we keep our front and back garden clean, also the street area in front of our house we keep that part clean
protesting is nice to bring this under the attention cause we must be aware of this but you're right we ourselves must all do our share to keep our world clean
Livia
13-05-2019, 11:31 AM
i thought they might have more power at that than us
we keep our front and back garden clean, also the street area in front of our house we keep that part clean
protesting is nice to bring this under the attention cause we must be aware of this but you're right we ourselves must all do our share to keep our world clean
Like I said before, maybe protest in front of the embassies of the worst offenders? You have to acknowledge the work that is already being done while asking for more to be done.
chuff me dizzy
13-05-2019, 12:58 PM
Have they nothing better to do ? Bore off now idiots :bored:
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:00 PM
Why are people getting so offended by people wanting to tackle global warming/the environment? :laugh:
arista
13-05-2019, 01:09 PM
Why are people getting so offended by people wanting to tackle global warming/the environment? :laugh:
They are not telling me Anything
I do not already know,
I am way ahead of them
No way can we increase Electric Cars
without a Big UK Discount.
Parliament runs all this
not Middle Class Protester Fascists
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 01:11 PM
Have they nothing better to do ? Bore off now idiots :bored:
yeah cause caring about our climate is bad :laugh:
still after these protests they need to stay true to their cause and do their share in keeping our world clean too
Livia
13-05-2019, 01:13 PM
Why are people getting so offended by people wanting to tackle global warming/the environment? :laugh:
Last time the eco warriors disrupted the capital they left a sea of rubbish behind them, plastics mostly. Marching through London with a banner isn't going to stop China dumping plastic into the sea, destroying coral reefs by a myriad of measures, being the biggest market for illegal ivory and rhino horn... I think the UK is doing a lot to combat global warming and individually I think people are awake to the fact that we all have to help. I think that it alienates those of us who do what we can for the environment for people to march when the sun's out and not take their crap home with them... and then have them held up as heroes.
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:14 PM
Last time the eco warriors disrupted the capital they left a sea of rubbish behind them, plastics mostly. Marching through London with a banner isn't going to stop China dumping plastic into the sea, destroying coral reefs by a myriad of measures, being the biggest market for illegal ivory and rhino horn... I think the UK is doing a lot to combat global warming and individually I think people are awake to the fact that we all have to help. I think that it alienates those of us who do what we can for the environment for people to march when the sun's out and not take their crap home with them... and then have them held up as heroes.
I presume these people are British though not Chinese?
Livia
13-05-2019, 01:22 PM
I presume these people are British though not Chinese?
Yes, I expect they are. Because a protest like this would never be allowed in China. So maybe target their embassy. At least then some Chinese people will see it, despite China's control of the web.
The Blue Planet nearly broke the Internet in China and since then, groups of Chinese people have got together to think about how they can reduce waste and clean up the oceans. Pressure groups such as these are not usually allowed in China, but I think the government gauged the strength of feeling about the pollution of the oceans and have allowed these groups to meet. We need more of that. Once people know the problem and know what they can do, they'll do it, mostly. And I think the UK is already very aware both of the problem and what we can do about it.
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:24 PM
Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?
Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?
people can protest here all they like, but the UK is much more eco friendly than the USA, China or India, so it makes sense to target their countries by protesting at their embassies
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:30 PM
people can protest here all they like, but the UK is much more eco friendly than the USA, China or India, so it makes sense to target their countries by protesting at their embassies
I'm not saying you aren't, it's just I think each countries own citizens need to worry about themselves. That's the best way to get real changes imo
Livia
13-05-2019, 01:32 PM
Why do you want British citizens to target China instead of their own home country, where they actually have a say in changes and policies? Surely the Chinese need to protest their own government?
Well, like I said, the Chinese people don't get the information we do. And I just picked China because they have billions of people, they are a major polluter and when their people know about the pollution, they try to do something.
I wouldn't like to see the carnage a protest about the Chinese government, actually IN China, would cause.
I've written to the Chinese embassy on several occasions covering human rights, animal rights and the destruction of the coral reefs. There's nothing to say you can't target the people causing the most problems.
Just a personal opinion.
...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved...:love:...
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:36 PM
Well, like I said, the Chinese people don't get the information we do. And I just picked China because they have billions of people, they are a major polluter and when their people know about the pollution, they try to do something.
I wouldn't like to see the carnage a protest about the Chinese government, actually IN China, would cause.
I've written to the Chinese embassy on several occasions covering human rights, animal rights and the destruction of the coral reefs. There's nothing to say you can't target the people causing the most problems.
Just a personal opinion.
Of course not but targeting your own country/government shouldn't be poo poo'd just because China is worse either imo If we were only ever allowed to target worst cases, nothing would ever get done
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:37 PM
...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved...:love:...
I agree, I really don't get the outrage over something that's supposed to be positive
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 01:39 PM
i thought they might have more power at that than us
we keep our front and back garden clean, also the street area in front of our house we keep that part clean
protesting is nice to bring this under the attention cause we must be aware of this but you're right we ourselves must all do our share to keep our world clean
It's not just about that though , Do you use plastic ? do you drive or ever go in a car etc? do you recycle everything ? I could go on . You cant just snap you fingers and it all goes away , what we have done to the planet will take hundreds of years to put right if ever.
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 01:45 PM
...I thought this was a global thing..?...I’m sure it’s in Australia as well and parts of Europe...mothers speaking out for their children and the planet that will be their children’s future...well done to them in all countries involved...:love:...
Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.
I agree, I really don't get the outrage over something that's supposed to be positive
...it’s also involving the children as well in being aware of and speaking out about the destruction to their planet...the legacy that they’re being given ...and maybe just maybe, governments may listen more to the their voices...
Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.
...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz..:laugh:..I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...
Niamh.
13-05-2019, 01:54 PM
...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz..:laugh:..I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...
Exactly, people are very keen to put down other peoples attempts to help by making out unless they're 100% perfect then they can't have a voice. But you drive a car seems to be a favourite one to try and shut people down
Nicky91
13-05-2019, 01:58 PM
Lets hope all those mothers are using biodegradable nappies and wipes.
we here in our country have 2 different garbage bins
Green (for garden trash) and Grey (for regular in house trash)
and we also got a bottle and a paper recycle bin near where we live in the street
so our trash already gets separated
Liam-
13-05-2019, 01:58 PM
How dare they try and make their voices heard, just stick to parenting, dumb women :fist:
It’s a shame people are put down for trying to make a difference
arista
13-05-2019, 02:00 PM
...I honestly don’t know if they do use them or not, Kaz..:laugh:..I do hope they do...but even if they didn’t it wouldn’t take away from anything positive being done...it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing thing or any ‘terms’ attached, you know...everything is something...sadly I fear it’s just not enough for the damage we have all done...
No Ammi
they are sticking with Chuck the nappies
as they are stuck on Facebook chat.
Middle Class Mothers
Fake protesters - not willing to do what they demand
...so many children and adults with breathing.../...asthma type illnesses and so many cancers ...the air that we breathe is literally starting to kill us and to kill our children...it’s a very bleak outlook unless there is huge change...
No Ammi
they are sticking with Chuck the nappies
as they are stuck on Facebook chat.
Middle Class Mothers
Fake protesters - not willing to do what they demand
...well I’m sure they’re making adjustments elsewhere, Arista ...if disposables are still being used...time is also a factor so these things have to be balanced...
Kazanne
13-05-2019, 02:15 PM
I hate what we are doing and have done to the planet, but I don't think protesting does much good , much rather go down to one of the beaches etc and clean what I could up , or just get litter picking, I do my bit if I can that is all I can do, yes I drive out of necessity but that's it ,my kids walk to school and the one who is too little goes on the school bus, no one is perfect and we cant help some of the stuff that happens, but imo if we all did our bit, or at least tried,it would be good, if people want to go protest that is up to them,but I hope they don't leave the mess behind the other lot did.
..I think because not everyone does do their bit and has been doing their bit over time and because there is too much pollution and health issues and too little thought etc...sometimes it has to be spoken out about though, which is what is happening today...
Oliver_W
13-05-2019, 03:21 PM
still something must be done at this, otherwise we are all gonna die in 11 yrs from now on
#BetterClimate4Everyone #Fight4AHealthyLife
Beg pardon Nick but come on. No-one sensible would deny we need to change our ways, but not even the moronic AOC believes we'll all die in 11-12 years.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4642&stc=1&d=1557760751
The Slim Reaper
13-05-2019, 07:28 PM
Beg pardon Nick but come on. No-one sensible would deny we need to change our ways, but not even the moronic AOC believes we'll all die in 11-12 years.
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4642&stc=1&d=1557760751
What has she done or said that leads you to call her moronic?
chuff me dizzy
14-05-2019, 07:50 AM
Last time the eco warriors disrupted the capital they left a sea of rubbish behind them, plastics mostly. Marching through London with a banner isn't going to stop China dumping plastic into the sea, destroying coral reefs by a myriad of measures, being the biggest market for illegal ivory and rhino horn... I think the UK is doing a lot to combat global warming and individually I think people are awake to the fact that we all have to help. I think that it alienates those of us who do what we can for the environment for people to march when the sun's out and not take their crap home with them... and then have them held up as heroes.
:clap1:
The Slim Reaper
14-05-2019, 09:12 AM
This "protesting is pointless because other people exist in the world" is hilarious.
Mothers demand action against pedophillia - pointless, America has more than we do so protest them instead.
Mothers demand action against unsmoked Bacon - but Denmark make loads of Bacon
Mothers demand action against racism - but other countries are racist so what's the point?
It's the most small-minded way of looking at the world imaginable. Too busy looking over your neighbours fence to realise your own garden is a **** tip.
Livia
14-05-2019, 09:18 AM
I hate what we are doing and have done to the planet, but I don't think protesting does much good , much rather go down to one of the beaches etc and clean what I could up , or just get litter picking, I do my bit if I can that is all I can do, yes I drive out of necessity but that's it ,my kids walk to school and the one who is too little goes on the school bus, no one is perfect and we cant help some of the stuff that happens, but imo if we all did our bit, or at least tried,it would be good, if people want to go protest that is up to them,but I hope they don't leave the mess behind the other lot did.
What are they hoping to achieve, I wonder? Most people recycle and try to do their bit, so who is their message for, exactly?
My office is in London and there are protests every day, disturbing people getting to work, blocking roads and pathways... This one was singled out because it is "mothers", like that makes them any more caring, any more worried about the future than someone who has no kids.
Anyhoo, I know mine's not a popular opinion, so I'll just carry on with my black bin, my green bin, my brown bin, saving water, saving power, refusing stuff that's over-packaged, not buying stuff wrapped in unrecyclable plastic, looking at an hybrid car (shudder...) and making sure my house is properly insulated. Because, what do I know?
smudgie
14-05-2019, 09:36 AM
Better off protesting at supermarkets, protest about the amount of plastic and packaging in use.
If the protests bring it to people’s attention, and it’s not getting in the way of people going about their day to day life then fine.
Every little bit helps.
arista
14-05-2019, 09:51 AM
Better off protesting at supermarkets, protest about the amount of plastic and packaging in use.
If the protests bring it to people’s attention, and it’s not getting in the way of people going about their day to day life then fine.
Every little bit helps.
Yes they can not replace the black plastic trays for all foods
Iceland Stores claim they are going to change?
I'm guessing it was warm and sunny at the weekend
Nicky91
14-05-2019, 12:58 PM
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/05/closure-of-three-coal-fired-power-stations-would-hit-climate-target/
CO2 target closure of 3 coal fired power stations could be reached within deadline of 2020
something for a better climate from us
Livia
14-05-2019, 01:00 PM
The UK could go carbon neutral tomorrow and it wouldn't make an iota of difference to global warming. Until China, India and the USA are on board, we're wasting our time and money.
Kazanne
14-05-2019, 01:08 PM
What are they hoping to achieve, I wonder? Most people recycle and try to do their bit, so who is their message for, exactly?
My office is in London and there are protests every day, disturbing people getting to work, blocking roads and pathways... This one was singled out because it is "mothers", like that makes them any more caring, any more worried about the future than someone who has no kids.
Anyhoo, I know mine's not a popular opinion, so I'll just carry on with my black bin, my green bin, my brown bin, saving water, saving power, refusing stuff that's over-packaged, not buying stuff wrapped in unrecyclable plastic, looking at an hybrid car (shudder...) and making sure my house is properly insulated. Because, what do I know?
Exactly,i'm with you there:wavey:
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