Dionne Warwick: Beyoncé is not iconic, Twitter stan cancel culture responds

[reece(:]

Dionne Warwick doesn’t believe Beyoncé is an icon — just yet!

During a recent interview with Essence, Warwick, 78, raved over the “Formation” singer, 37, but questioned whether or not her career will reach the level of success that “classic” musicians from the Sixties have.

“I have an admiration for Beyoncé Knowles, Carter now. Watching her growth has been quite refreshing. It’s wonderful to see how she’s been able to create what and who she wanted to be and who she is… very proud of that, I really am,” Warwick, who released her new album She’s Back earlier this month, told Essence.

“Now sustaining and becoming a big icon that Gladys Knight, or Patti LaBelle, or Johnny Mathis, or Frank Sinatra, or Sammy Davis Jr. is? I doubt that,” Warwick said.

She continued, “And I love her to death and can appreciate her talent. But that iconic status? It’s a long road [ahead].”

A rep for Beyoncé did not immediately respond to PEOPLE’s request for comment.

“I don’t know if 10 years from now, anybody can actually sing the songs of our babies today. That’s not, as you guys say, ‘throwing shade,’ it’s looking at it with reality,” Warwick explained to Essence.

Nonetheless, Warwick is impressed by this generation’s talent.

“The youngsters are doing it,” Warwick told the publication.

Born in New Jersey, Warwick began her career at only 19 years old. By 1964, she had two top singles: “Anyone Who Had a Heart” and “Walk On By” — both written by Burt Bacharach and Hal David.

She would later go on to release the hits “Michael to Michael” and her version of “I Say A Little Prayer,” in 1966.

In 1968, Warwick won a Grammy Award for “Do You Know the Way to San Jose.”

https://people.com/music/dionne-warwick-says-beyonce-isnt-an-icon-yet/

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I'm so over twitter stan brigade doing the most on any artist that dare voice an opinion :skull:

[Nicky91]

Dionne is right :clap2:


she had worked herself with a songwriting icon Burt Bacharach :)

[Saph]

shes right ..but hew is she to say that lmao

[Nicky91]

shes right ..but hew is she to say that lmao

WAIT :o

i would say give her songs a listen, and most of her composed work by Bacharach is very much well known

[Elliot]

She’s right, beyonce is incredibly overrated and hypocritical. Beyonce fans get so defensive and personal whenever you dare question how overhyped she is too lmao

[Crimson Dynamo]

beyonce could not lace DW's boots

bang on right

[MB.]

"hmm Beyonce's good, but she's no Johnny Mathis" is giving me

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[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Solange on the other hand

[Strictly Jake]

She had potential to be an icon particularly in the early to mid 2000s but in my opinion she has had no good songs in the last 10 years....

So her icon status has diminished.

[Amy Jade]

Dionne Warwick ain't iconic either

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

She had potential to be an icon particularly in the early to mid 2000s but in my opinion she has had no good songs in the last 10 years....

So her icon status has diminished.

Blow was 2013 though?

[Nicky91]

Dionne Warwick ain't iconic either

:bored:

she is though

[Crimson Dynamo]

drag ha

[Alf]

Get her!

[Marsh.]

I don't get the backlash?

She's incredibly complimentary to Beyonce, her career, and her talent.

She's discussing the term "icon" in its actual sense, not the glib "everything is iconic" way it's used in slang nowadays.

[arista]

78 year old great singer
is this a set up?
Getting the younger performer in the Headlines?

[Shaun]

I think Beyonce will be just fine in lieu of this

[Saph]

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im saying this in 2019

[iRyan]

shes right ..but hew is she to say that lmao

I came to post just this

Beyoncé is an icon on a certain tier, but that tier is at least two marks below the likes of someone like Whitney Houston, Cher, or Frank Sinatra.

[montblanc]

She’s right, beyonce is incredibly overrated and hypocritical. Beyonce fans get so defensive and personal whenever you dare question how overhyped she is too lmao

your opinions :skull:

[montblanc]

i think it's fair if you don't like Bey's music but to call her overrated is such a reach :skull: she's incredibly talented and is the most talented performer (out of the current pool of celebrities) alive atm

[Marsh.]

Tbf it's not a reach.

Overrated doesn't mean she's not talented. It means she's held in higher regard than she should be.

And being the most talented out of the current pool of celebs isn't saying much either! A snooker cue is more talented than the likes of Britney and the Kardashians.

[brat.]

Beyoncé is by far the best performer and 'icon' of our generation (and from someone hew is Riri > Yoncé), ain't no other artist putting in the same time and practice as she is, call her overrated if you want but she's still the best all round artist (music, performance, etc.) of our generation

[brat.]

and of course she isn't going to be held at the same standard as Whitney, Tina etc. because they are of a different generation, but in 10/20 years time she 100% will be! periodt!

[brat.]

I mean ah don't think miss warwick could come up with 'ah sneezed on t'beat and t'beat got sicker' huh?

[Saph]

kelly has better songs than bey and dionne

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[Marsh.]

and of course she isn't going to be held at the same standard as Whitney, Tina etc. because they are of a different generation, but in 10/20 years time she 100% will be! periodt!

But her music has to be as big as Whitney and Tina was in their heyday.

Like Dionne said are any of her hits as well known YEARS later like the people mentioned?

Do people remember Lemonade lyrics? No.

[brat.]

But her music has to be as big as Whitney and Tina was in their heyday.

Like Dionne said are any of her hits as well known YEARS later like the people mentioned?

Do people remember Lemonade lyrics? No.

that's Lemonade lmao, Listen, Crazy In Love, Irreplaceable, Single Ladies to name a few are all songs you could turn on at any place and everyone would know the words, some of those are 15+ years old lmao, so yes her hits will be as well known years later

[reece(:]

Beyoncé is by far the best performer and 'icon' of our generation (and from someone hew is Riri > Yoncé), ain't no other artist putting in the same time and practice as she is, call her overrated if you want but she's still the best all round artist (music, performance, etc.) of our generation

Bey could never deliver Love On The Brain live vocals like Rih did

[montblanc]

But her music has to be as big as Whitney and Tina was in their heyday.

Like Dionne said are any of her hits as well known YEARS later like the people mentioned?

Do people remember Lemonade lyrics? No.

Lemonade just came out a couple years ago though :skull: it's an acclaimed album and will continue age alongside the listeners so in year's time, yes :hmph:

[brat.]

y'all if Beyoncé's songs ain't gonna be remembered in years which one of your pop girlies will :skull: miss anne marie?

[montblanc]

Bey could never deliver Love On The Brain live vocals like Rih did

our Bey gives us those vocals on a regular :idc:

[brat.]

Bey could never deliver Love On The Brain live vocals like Rih did

ah said performance loov! miss ri will ALWAYS be that girl, but as a performance aspect Bey puts on a better show, and Homecoming showed how much work and effort she puts into her craft

[brat.]

our Bey gives us those vocals on a regular :idc:

ok let's not get carried away sweetie

[Liam-]

If I were a boy will forever be iconic, her recent stuff has been nothing but lackluster though let’s be honest with ourselves

[montblanc]

ok let's not get carried away sweetie

what :skull: Bey has better vocals than Rih and i love both of them

[Tony Montana]

If I were a boy will forever be iconic, her recent stuff has been nothing but lackluster though let’s be honest with ourselves

Tea.

[Tony Montana]

If I were a boy is so underrated.

[brat.]

what :skull: Bey has better vocals than Rih and i love both of them

Ri's performance of Love On The Brain took me on a spiritual journey! it's what Leach McFall dreams about as she hiccups on t'voice!

[montblanc]

Ri's performance of Love On The Brain took me on a spiritual journey! it's what Leach McFall dreams about as she hiccups on t'voice!

that was a beautiful performance tbf :flutter:

[Marsh.]

Lemonade just came out a couple years ago though :skull: it's an acclaimed album and will continue age alongside the listeners so in year's time, yes :hmph:

What's that got to do with it?

It's three years old and already forgotten. Not doing well to becoming a well remembered piece of work at all.

[brat.]

What's that got to do with it?

It's three years old and already forgotten. Not doing well to becoming a well remembered piece of work at all.

Whitney's latter releases barely made it into the top 100

[Marsh.]

that's Lemonade lmao, Listen, Crazy In Love, Irreplaceable, Single Ladies to name a few are all songs you could turn on at any place and everyone would know the words, some of those are 15+ years old lmao, so yes her hits will be as well known years later

Everybody knows Baby One More Time but Britney aint no icon.

[LukeB]

a bop
IyuUWOnS9BY

[reece(:]

How did this turn into a discussion of memorable/overrated :skull:

Motha D raved about Bey, she just said she isn't an icon as of now

This is exactly what the Beyhive have done, blew it up and starting attacking Dionne when she was making a reasoned statement

[Marsh.]

Whitney's latter releases barely made it into the top 100

That doesn't erase her iconic era?

She's dead now does that mean it changes? No. :hmph:

My point is Beyonce is nowhere the heights of Whitney so is not iconic.

[brat.]

Everybody knows Baby One More Time but Britney aint no icon.

because Brit doesn't have nearly the same amount of talent as Beyonce fjdfdj

[montblanc]

What's that got to do with it?

It's three years old and already forgotten. Not doing well to becoming a well remembered piece of work at all.

the white gays that listen to Meghan Trainor and Taylor Swift, yes

but not amongst the album's targeted audience :nono:

[brat.]

That doesn't erase her iconic era?

She's dead now does that mean it changes? No. :hmph:

My point is Beyonce is nowhere the heights of Whitney so is not iconic.

so why does Lemonade erase B's early stuff, in 20 years people will still be playing Single Ladies and Crazy In Lurve

[Marsh.]

y'all if Beyoncé's songs ain't gonna be remembered in years which one of your pop girlies will :skull: miss anne marie?

Who called Anne Marie an icon? :skull:

[Liam-]

In 20 years time, Bey will be remembered as the chick of our generation for her best stuff

[Marsh.]

so why does Lemonade erase B's early stuff, in 20 years people will still be playing Single Ladies and Crazy In Lurve

It doesn't. But that era is not iconic?

[montblanc]

How did this turn into a discussion of memorable/overrated :skull:

Motha D raved about Bey, she just said she isn't an icon as of now

This is exactly what the Beyhive have done, blew it up and starting attacking Dionne when she was making a reasoned statement

you CAUSED this!

[brat.]

How did this turn into a discussion of memorable/overrated :skull:

Motha D raved about Bey, she just said she isn't an icon as of now

This is exactly what the Beyhive have done, blew it up and starting attacking Dionne when she was making a reasoned statement

I wasn't attacking her statement, I was just disagreeing with people who in the thread have stated Beyonce was overrated

[reece(:]

the white gays that listen to Meghan Trainor and Taylor Swift, yes

but not amongst the album's targeted audience :nono:

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[reece(:]

I think the point made is none of Bey's current material will be remembered like her noughties songs

[brat.]

It doesn't. But that era is not iconic?

it literally is? how is not iconic when she produced worldwide hits still being played today one after another

[brat.]

I think the point made is none of Bey's current material will be remembered like her noughties songs

which is the same as most artists tbf

[reece(:]

which is the same as most artists tbf
and none of those are icons either? :fan:

[brat.]

and none of those are icons either? :fan:

so miss Whitney ain't an icon

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[montblanc]

so miss Whitney ain't an icon

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:joker:

[Marsh.]

it literally is? how is not iconic when she produced worldwide hits still being played today one after another

Lots of singers have hits. Don't make them iconic sweetie.

Is Beyonce synonymous with a period of time/era? No. Bye. :hee:

[RileyH]

queen bey

[RileyH]

the white gays that listen to Meghan Trainor and Taylor Swift, yes

whew i feel attacked

[armand.kay]

Lots of singers have hits. Don't make them iconic sweetie.

Is Beyonce synonymous with a period of time/era? No. Bye. :hee:

yes the 00s?

[Shaun]

I am pretty resolute that Beyonce will be looked back on as bigger than Whitney, tbh.

Half of Whitney's fame is because of how tinged it was by her personal struggles, let's be real. Musically, she didn't have a ridiculous number of hits like Madonna/Elvis/MJ.

[Denver]

Quality not Quantity though.

Whitney never released a bad song

[Shaun]

Quality not Quantity though.

Whitney never released a bad song

u sure?

9wYAZQEEgiY

[Ammi]

...Dionne didn’t really ‘come for’ Beyonce did she...I mean she’s very complimentary and obviously a huge admirer of her talent...she’s just saying that in her opinion Beyonce is still travelling down the road of ‘iconic’ and hasn’t reached it yet...and that is true because Beyonce still has so much talent to offer the music world ...if it’s looked back on some of those artists mentioned as being iconic now, which they are....they wouldn’t have been termed as that at the time and if compared to Beyonce at the same stage in her career...

[Ammi]

...I wonder who Dionne would ideally want to play her in a life story movie or show....hmmmm I’m thinking Beyonce...an icon of now playing an icon of then...

[Amy Jade]

Quality not Quantity though.

Whitney never released a bad song

I love Whit but this is so untrue she released some awful songs

[Marsh.]

yes the 00s?

Beigonce is the sound of the 00s? :omgno:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Astounded that so many names bandied about in this thread and never a mention of Jamelia?

:bored:

[Saph]

Astounded that so many names bandied about in this thread and never a mention of Jamelia?

:bored:

the true icon of the 00s

[reece(:]

Jamelia, Javine and Alesha :love:

[Saph]

Bey wishes she had Javines range

[Nicky91]

Astounded that so many names bandied about in this thread and never a mention of Jamelia?

:bored:

explains her multiple times in bottom two, in strictly :fan: her lack of popularity, people don't know who she is

[reece(:]

Bey wishes she had Javines range

Bey wishes she released a bop like this

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[armand.kay]

Beigonce is the sound of the 00s? :omgno:

we're gonna act like Destiny Fulfiled, DIL and B'Day weren't IT??? also what's with this need to underne Beyoncé impact??

[Marsh.]

we're gonna act like Destiny Fulfiled, DIL and B'Day weren't IT??? also what's with this need to underne Beyoncé impact??

No one's undermined EWT! What's with this need to oversell her!!! :oh:

[Moniqua]

How did this turn into a discussion of memorable/overrated :skull:

Motha D raved about Bey, she just said she isn't an icon as of now

This is exactly what the Beyhive have done, blew it up and starting attacking Dionne when she was making a reasoned statement

you stan cardi be quiet

[reece(:]

you stan cardi be quiet

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[Saph]

lets be honest here, Bey peaked with this bop and hasnt released anything close since

9i-y0G8nNA8

So what, you bought a pair of shoes.. what, now you guess you think I owe you?
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You dont have to call as much as you do, Id give them back to be through with you!
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I wanna put your number on the call block, have AOL make my email stop!
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