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Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:24 PM
I keep seeing/hearing a lot that it is being lost, but what is it? :think:
None of this “it’s a feeling bull****” what is British culture?
I knew the Schools wasn't teaching our kids.
Matthew.
29-05-2019, 06:27 PM
Calling the living room light “the big light”
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:27 PM
I knew the Schools wasn't teaching our kids.
I’m 26
Kate!
29-05-2019, 06:28 PM
Drinking tea a lot
arista
29-05-2019, 06:28 PM
I keep seeing/hearing a lot that it is being lost, but what is it? :think:
None of this “it’s a feeling bull****” what is British culture?
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/01/article-2255587-16B596DF000005DC-371_634x579.jpg
arista
29-05-2019, 06:29 PM
I’m 26
At least you are Clever
and Attractive
Liam-
29-05-2019, 06:29 PM
Everything closing down when it snows for 10 minutes
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 06:29 PM
Spotted dick
arista
29-05-2019, 06:30 PM
Spotted dick
And Custard
arista
29-05-2019, 06:31 PM
https://i.imgur.com/17UbelK.jpg
Now Look Luv
Stop trying to Shag my Car.
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:31 PM
Calling the living room light “the big light”
:joker:
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 06:31 PM
Bangers and mash
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:31 PM
I think people forget culture is only ever an amalgamation of other cultures anyway.
There is no "English" culture.
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:32 PM
I’m 26
OOF she's had a hard life!
I’m 26But you did go to school, right?
What did your School teach you about British culture? What do you think as British culture?
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:34 PM
At least you are Clever
and Attractive
Still not going to sleep with you for less than 150 arista I’m afraid
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:34 PM
But you did go to school, right?
What did your School teach you about British culture? What do you think as British culture?
So instead of answering his question, you turn the question round on him?
What do YOU think as British culture?
Dogeatdog
29-05-2019, 06:35 PM
Shouting Wheyyy!!! in a pub when someone drops a pint.
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:35 PM
But you did go to school, right?
What did your School teach you about British culture? What do you think as British culture?
I think British culture is a load of **** racists spout about to make themselves sound less racist, so that’s why I asked what it is and so far nobody has given me an answer
Bangers and mashFish and Chips, Beans on toast, cottage pie and Yorkshire pudding
reece(:
29-05-2019, 06:36 PM
(2+ lights are on in home)
*Family member enters*
"Corrr it's like Blackpool illuminations in here!"
I think British culture is a load of **** racists spout about to make themselves sound less racist, so that’s why I asked what it is and so far nobody has given me an answerWho taught you that?
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 06:38 PM
I think British culture is a load of **** racists spout about to make themselves sound less racist, so that’s why I asked what it is and so far nobody has given me an answer:thumbs:
The amount of times I've heard this. To really get it going someone has to mention the loss of the the Empire. :laugh:
So instead of answering his question, you turn the question round on him?
What do YOU think as British culture?Yes, well observed.
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:38 PM
Who taught you that?
That’s my opinion
Now would you like to give yours on what British culture is?
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:39 PM
Fish and Chips
A Jewish immigrant, Joseph Malin, opened the first recorded combined fish-and-chip shop in London in 1860 or in 1865
Bloody immigrant food!
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 06:40 PM
Fish and Chips, Beans on toast, cottage pie and Yorkshire puddingToad in the hole. Why is it called that? :conf:
That’s my opinion
Now would you like to give yours on what British culture is?What specific thing are you looking for?
Our culture is ever changing.
Bloody immigrant food!That's why Immigration is a great thing, just as long as it's controlled to bring in Immigrants that are useful to us.
I think British culture is a load of **** racists spout about to make themselves sound less racist, so that’s why I asked what it is and so far nobody has given me an answerSo in your own words you think British culture is bull**** and totally made up throughout history just so people can be racist?
Isnt this thread completely pointless then if you already decided the entire history of British culture is 'bull****'?
There is culture from all of the countries in the UK combined, arts, architecture, industry, music, food.....
reece(:
29-05-2019, 06:47 PM
Me: She's listening
She: Who's she, the cat's mother?
Elliot
29-05-2019, 06:49 PM
Charley uchea
Elliot
29-05-2019, 06:50 PM
Isnt this thread completely pointless then if you already decided the entire history of British culture is 'bull****'?
Well no since it’s trying to pose a question and serious debate as to what we consider British culture... what?
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:53 PM
That's why Immigration is a great thing, just as long as it's controlled to bring in Immigrants that are useful to us.
I imagine it was quite a long time until it was appreciated though :idc:
So in your own words you think British culture is bull**** and totally made up throughout history just so people can be racist?
Isnt this thread completely pointless then if you already decided the entire history of British culture is 'bull****'?
There is culture from all of the countries in the UK combined, arts, architecture, industry, music, food.....
Please stick to the thread topic about your own opinion of British Culture rather than attacking my own
I imagine it was quite a long time until it was appreciated though :idc:
Please stick to the thread topic about your own opinion of British Culture rather than attacking my ownI posted my opinion.
Sorry but LOL you attacked everyone that believes in British culture so take your own advice.
I await the faux outrage next time someone enters a thread about a different countries culture and calls it bull****.
Jordan.
29-05-2019, 06:56 PM
Knowing all the words to T2 Heartbroken
Well no since it’s trying to pose a question and serious debate as to what we consider British culture... what?It's not a debate if the OP rubbished everyone's opinion as bull**** without actually seeing any of them.
Dogeatdog
29-05-2019, 06:57 PM
Knowing all the words to T2 Heartbroken
And Mr Brightside :thumbs:
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 06:57 PM
So in your own words you think British culture is bull**** and totally made up throughout history just so people can be racist?
Isnt this thread completely pointless then if you already decided the entire history of British culture is 'bull****'?
There is culture from all of the countries in the UK combined, arts, architecture, industry, music, food.....That is somewhat twisting it. The 'loss of British culture' - a very relevant debate given Brexit - is a debate I have personally witnessed descend into ignorant xenophobia with no one really declaring what is being lost. We hear 'Identity' etc but who can explain what that means. I think this is a very relevant thread and the fact it is descending into something of a farce shows how this point it often brought up but is so difficult to define.
Elliot
29-05-2019, 06:57 PM
Why do people take criticism and opinions about much wider themes and ideas personally? Critiquing the way we think about culture and it’s downsides isn’t a personal attack on any individual British person...
Smithy
29-05-2019, 06:57 PM
That is somewhat twisting it. The 'loss of British culture' - a very relevant debate given Brexit - is a debate I have personally witnessed descend into ignorant xenophobia with no one really declaring what is being lost. We hear 'Identity' etc but who can explain what that means. I think this is a very relevant thread and the fact it is descending into something of a farce shows how this point it often brought up but is so difficult to define.
This is literally my point
WHAT is the culture which we are losing?
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 06:58 PM
So in your own words you think British culture is bull**** and totally made up throughout history just so people can be racist?
Isnt this thread completely pointless then if you already decided the entire history of British culture is 'bull****'?
There is culture from all of the countries in the UK combined, arts, architecture, industry, music, food.....
The point is that culture by its nature is a mish mash of everything. When people complain we're "losing British culture to foreigners" without realising the "culture" they're referring to is bits and pieces taken from around the globe in the first place.
That is somewhat twisting it. The 'loss of British culture' - a very relevant debate given Brexit - is a debate I have personally witnessed descend into ignorant xenophobia with no one really declaring what is being lost. We hear 'Identity' etc but who can explain what that means. I think this is a very relevant thread and the fact it is descending into something of a farce shows how this point it often brought up but is so difficult to define.I agree with the thread being a relevant debate had it not been created by someone who has no interest in anyones 'bull****' opinion and posted that.
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:00 PM
Me: She's listening
She: Who's she, the cat's mother?
:joker:
reece(:
29-05-2019, 07:01 PM
Knowing all the words to T2 Heartbroken
and Sweet Female Attitude Flowers!
The point is that culture by its nature is a mish mash of everything. When people complain we're "losing British culture to foreigners" without realising the "culture" they're referring to is bits and pieces taken from around the globe in the first place.That wasnt the point.
Smithys point that he posted was that he thinks all British culture is a bull**** excuse for people to be racist, so maybe not argue someone's point when they've already posted it for themselves?
British culture is complaining and arguing a lot
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 07:01 PM
I agree with the thread being a relevant debate had it not been created by someone who has no interest in anyones 'bull****' opinion and posted that.:laugh:
I see :thumbs:
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:02 PM
That wasnt the point.
Smithys point that he posted was that he thinks all British culture is a bull**** excuse for people to be racist, so maybe not argue someone's point when they've already posted it for themselves?
I've not argued anyone's point but my own.
Yet every post you've made in here has been more about poster's than the topic. Stick to your own rules love.
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:02 PM
I posted my opinion.
Sorry but LOL you attacked everyone that believes in British culture so take your own advice.
I await the faux outrage next time someone enters a thread about a different countries culture and calls it bull****.
Where did I attack anyone? :laugh3:
I've not argued anyone's point but my own.
Yet every post you've made in here has been more about poster's than the topic. Stick to your own rules love.Try having a debate without baiting and posting on behalf of others and possibly then I may take an interest in anything you say.
I posted my opinions.
....I don’t think we’ve lost anything/any aspect of what we would think of as culture...I think we’ve become more inclusive and more tolerant as time has gone on...or at least I thought we had but now it’s feeling more regressive...
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:04 PM
Try having a debate without baiting and posting on behalf of others and possibly then I may take an interest in anything you say.
I posted my opinions.
I haven't posted on behalf of others. Can you read? Or won't.
You can talk about baiting. :joker:
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:04 PM
....I don’t think we’ve lost anything/any aspect of what we would think of as culture...I think we’ve become more inclusive and more tolerant as time has gone on...or at least I thought we had but now it’s feeling more regressive...
Definitely.
British culture is complaining and arguing a lotMost definitely, we lead the World at that, certainly the complaining.
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:05 PM
So, so far British Culture is:
Fish & Chips
The Big Light
Cats Mother
Complaining
Anyone anything else to add?
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:06 PM
So, so far British Culture is:
Fish & Chips
The Big Light
Cats Mother
Complaining
Anyone anything else to add?
And we still have each and every one of those things so British culture is still here. :clap1:
So, so far British Culture is:
Fish & Chips
The Big Light
Cats Mother
Complaining
Anyone anything else to add?
...going out in the midday sun...
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:07 PM
...going out in the midday sun...
Without suncream!
So, so far British Culture is:
Fish & Chips
The Big Light
Cats Mother
Complaining
Anyone anything else to add?Charlie Chaplin, Stan Laurel, Monty Python, Mr Bean and Ricky Gervais. Basically humour.
There's a bit more to add to the list
Liam-
29-05-2019, 07:07 PM
The solution to every problem ever being a cuppa
smudgie
29-05-2019, 07:07 PM
Culture is such a big thing, mainly to do with traditions.
Culture differs between different areas and counties within Britain.
Not everybody will like all traditions, just live and let live.:shrug:
Without suncream!
...and brewing a cuppa...
The solution to every problem ever being a cuppa
...and brewing a cuppa...
....oh snap..:love:...and if the problem is very serious, a spoonful of sugar is the solution as well...
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:10 PM
Charlie Chaplin, Stan Laurel, Monty Python, Mr Bean and Ricky Gervais. Basically humour.
There's a bit more to add to the list
How are their contributions to British Culture being lost? :think:
GiRTh
29-05-2019, 07:11 PM
...going out in the midday sun...Thank you Noel Coward:douf:
Everyone thinking we’re the best at everything and then scratching their heads when we flop (i.e. Eurovision)
reece(:
29-05-2019, 07:13 PM
So, so far British Culture is:
Fish & Chips
The Big Light
Cats Mother
Complaining
Anyone anything else to add?
*sunny day appears in March*
-20+ instagram posts of vest and short shorts selfies-
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:14 PM
Everyone thinking we’re the best at everything and then scratching their heads when we flop (i.e. Eurovision)
Everyone thinking Eurovision is political
reece(:
29-05-2019, 07:14 PM
Everyone thinking Eurovision is political
Everything being a conspiracy
Matthew.
29-05-2019, 07:15 PM
Saying “She died in a boat accident you know” when Fairytale of New York is on at Christmas
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:16 PM
Saying “She died in a boat accident you know” when Fairytale of New York is on at Christmas
Relishing in the fact that you can scream f*ggot and get away with it because it’s in a song
How are their contributions to British Culture being lost? :think:When did the question become lost culture?
I thought the question was, what is British cultur?
Thank you Noel Coward:douf:
..:laugh:..oh that’s another one..the theatre I would say is a part of Our culture...and music festivals...:love:..
AnnieK
29-05-2019, 07:18 PM
The things I feel we have lost have been more brought about by the successive Government's failings. The "nations pride" we used to talk about has been eroded by austerity and cuts in government funding for all sorts of things. We have an aging population and the NHS is on its knees. People talk of the good old days....but what were they really? The poor were still poor, the rich were still rich. Nothing was inherently "British" as such that I can think of.
The only things are that I would think are things like Shakespeare, Lowry, Chaucer, the Monarchy (although mainly European), the landmarks, Stone Henge etc etc and we still have all those in our heritage.
Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:18 PM
When did the question become lost culture?
I thought the question was, what is British cultur?
Well as the OP clearly states, that we hear a lot about British Culture being lost, is it not quite an obvious point to suggest parts of culture which are at a threat of being lost?
Dogeatdog
29-05-2019, 07:19 PM
I don’t think British culture is being lost. Our culture has had a pretty big impact over the globe if you think back to the British empire etc.
Oliver_W
29-05-2019, 07:20 PM
Sarcasm.
Community.
Car boot sales.
Theatre.
Roast dinners.
Christianity is a lost part of our culture, not totally lost, but almost. And something has to and will replace it.
user104658
29-05-2019, 07:20 PM
I mean it exists in a lot of little ways but it's not a very strong national identity because its rooted in empire, and the empire no longer exists.
There are strong regional cultures though all over, from Essex to Yorkshire, Scotland, Wales etc.
Then again, it is possible to have both; the US has a combination of very regional "state cultures" and "city cultures" AND a very strong "USA" identity. Britain just doesn't really have the latter if we're being honest.
reece(:
29-05-2019, 07:21 PM
Christianity is a lost part of our culture, not totally lost, but almost.
Pop music saved christianity
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Smithy
29-05-2019, 07:21 PM
I don’t think British culture is being lost. Our culture has had a pretty big impact over the globe if you think back to the British empire etc.
Ah yes, genocide the TRUE meaning of British Culture
Liam-
29-05-2019, 07:22 PM
The best chants at sporting events
...and strawberries and cream...
Marsh.
29-05-2019, 07:31 PM
Emma knows...
Q_t-oREXUX8
Dogeatdog
29-05-2019, 07:37 PM
Ah yes, genocide the TRUE meaning of British Culture
Ah not in that way :eek:
Was thinking more in terms of sports like cricket being popular in countries such as India that were formally part of the empire still being played today.
Afternoon tea, chimney sweeps, scampi in a basket, barbers, public and lounge bars :flutter:
4 pints and a roast dinner before 2pm on a Sunday then going to play cricket
Stiff upper lip has been lost and replaced with pet lip, particularly when we're watching TV talent shows.
Elliot
29-05-2019, 08:55 PM
Everyone thinking Eurovision is political
It kinda is tho
James
29-05-2019, 09:18 PM
British culture is obviously something distinct if you compare with other countries, like other European countries. A lot of it comes from the common language, but even then other English-speaking countries have different cultures.
A lot of people don't bother to look at other countries to find out about them though, with the exception maybe of the USA.
user104658
29-05-2019, 09:43 PM
A lot of people don't bother to look at other countries to find out about them though, with the exception maybe of the USA.
I wouldn't say that's entirely true really, average Joe tends to know at least a bit about other European cultures like France, Germany, Spain, Italy etc... Maybe less so the northern European countries. But obviously there's also places like Japan or even Mexico / Brazil that people know about.
...rainy summer days in caravans, eating fish and chips and playing card games...:lovedup:..
...walks down the pier and playing the amusement arcade machines..spending as much as you can to get that awful soft toy...:love:..
Livia
30-05-2019, 09:10 AM
I think people forget culture is only ever an amalgamation of other cultures anyway.
There is no "English" culture.
So presumably, these other cultures we're an amalgamation of, are not cultures either.
"England has no culture" I say in the English language.
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:26 AM
So presumably, these other cultures we're an amalgamation of, are not cultures either.
They're cultures.
Are they strictly [insert nationality]? Not at all.
It is kind of funny for people to get precious about aspects of our culture that have a) not disappeared and b) are not exclusively English. It is just evolving, as it always has done, and will continue to do so.
Livia
30-05-2019, 09:27 AM
They're cultures.
Are they strictly [insert nationality]? Not at all.
It is kind of funny for people to get precious about aspects of our culture that have a) not disappeared and b) are not exclusively English. It is just evolving, as it always has done, and will continue to do so.
If that's your opinion I'll take that Marshy. Even if it makes just a modicum of sense.
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:37 AM
If that's your opinion I'll take that Marshy. Even if it makes just a modicum of sense.
How so?
If you're not going to actually say anything there's no use responding.
Livia
30-05-2019, 09:42 AM
How so?
If you're not going to actually say anything there's no use responding.
Calm down Marshy, we're on TiBB, not Newsnight.
All cultures are an amalgam of other cultures. That doesn't mean that English culture doesn't exist any more than it means Indian culture doesn't exist. They're both multi-faceted things, made up of many parts. That doesn't make them less a part of that particular country.
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:44 AM
Perfectly calm. Patronise someone else.
Livia
30-05-2019, 09:46 AM
Perfectly calm. Patronise someone else.
Hey, what's your problem this morning Mr Touchy. I reserve the right to extract the urine from you whenever I see fit, young man. And grant you the same right to do the same to me... not that you need my permission.
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:47 AM
That doesn't mean that English culture doesn't exist any more than it means Indian culture doesn't exist. They're both multi-faceted things, made up of many parts. That doesn't make them less a part of that particular country.
Well it seems our disagreement is over semantics.
My point was that "English culture" isn't this unmoveable, specific, unchanging thing. So our culture evolving, changing and being affected by immigration and other effects has always happened and always will. Hence our culture not being isolated and "only bloody British!!!". In that sense there is no "English culture" to be so protective of.
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:49 AM
Hey, what's your problem this morning Mr Touchy. I reserve the right to extract the urine from you whenever I see fit, young man. And grant you the same right to do the same to me... not that you need my permission.
https://blog-cdn.dogbuddy.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/phoebe-ignores-ross.gif
Livia
30-05-2019, 09:53 AM
Well it seems our disagreement is over semantics.
My point was that "English culture" isn't this unmoveable, specific, unchanging thing. So our culture evolving, changing and being affected by immigration and other effects has always happened and always will. Hence our culture not being isolated and "only bloody British!!!". In that sense there is no "English culture" to be so protective of.
We don't have a disagreement.
We're kind of agreeing. I never said any culture was an immovable, unchanging thing set in stone. If that was the case art would have died a couple of hundred years ago... and literature wouldn't have moved on from Shakespeare. My point is that, just because all cultures are made up of the best of other cultures, doesn't mean that particular culture isn't inherent to that particular country.
Now, if you don't mind, I need a lot more caffeine before I talk about anything else other than bunnies or the weather. x
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 09:58 AM
I didn't say that culture wasn't inherent to a particular country at a specific point in time. I'm saying those who claim we're "losing our culture" don't quite understand what that means in regards to culture not being a stationary thing and they see any change at all as "bloody foreigners coming over and eradicating our culture!!!" which is just a tad silly.
(I hope I used the correct stationary as I'm not talking about pens.)
Livia
30-05-2019, 10:10 AM
I didn't say that culture wasn't inherent to a particular country at a specific point in time. I'm saying those who claim we're "losing our culture" don't quite understand what that means in regards to culture not being a stationary thing and they see any change at all as "bloody foreigners coming over and eradicating our culture!!!" which is just a tad silly.
(I hope I used the correct stationary as I'm not talking about pens.)
Stationary, that's right. I always remember which one to use by remembering it's E for envelopes.
Maybe "culture" wasn't defined enough. It's like my trip to Rome recently. I met so many actual Romans, working everywhere, great Italian restaurants, Italian leather shops.... it all felt very... Italian. In east London now you'd struggle to get Pie & Mash, a cockney superfood... but you can buy a samosa anywhere. One has pushed out the other whereas they used to sit side by side quite comfortably.
Withano
30-05-2019, 11:35 AM
it’s like the most multi-cultural country in the world and we have a weird and wonderful blend of hundreds of cultures, with angry old white brits crying loudly about it in the background
Cherie
30-05-2019, 11:39 AM
Stationary, that's right. I always remember which one to use by remembering it's E for envelopes.
Maybe "culture" wasn't defined enough. It's like my trip to Rome recently. I met so many actual Romans, working everywhere, great Italian restaurants, Italian leather shops.... it all felt very... Italian. In east London now you'd struggle to get Pie & Mash, a cockney superfood... but you can buy a samosa anywhere. One has pushed out the other whereas they used to sit side by side quite comfortably.
I would agree with this, depending on where you live you will have differing views I guess
it’s like the most multi-cultural country in the world and we have a weird and wonderful blend of hundreds of cultures, with angry old white brits crying loudly about it in the background
...’weird and wonderful’...that’s the perfect description..:lovedup:...
Vicky.
30-05-2019, 11:48 AM
Honestly, I switch off with this argument as I don't even know what 'British culture' is, and generally the person saying we are losing it cannot actually explain what we are losing, so I tend to conclude that..well they are just moaning for the sake of moaning if they cannot even explain why they are moaning..
...why are you moaning, Vicky..?...stop moaning, you moaner...
Vicky.
30-05-2019, 12:05 PM
Am always moaning about something...currently its moaning about people who moan without knowing why they are moaning :D
Cherie
30-05-2019, 12:09 PM
I think what is happening in Birmingham at the moment is a perfect example, I could also give examples in Spain where the Brits live in enclaves and only speak English, the Spanish don't like it and why would they, so this is not a totally British problem
Liam-
30-05-2019, 12:45 PM
Brits that moan that our culture is being stolen or minimised are probably the same folks that moan when waiters in foreign countries don’t speak enough English
Vicky.
30-05-2019, 12:48 PM
Brits that moan that our culture is being stolen or minimised are probably the same folks that moan when waiters in foreign countries don’t speak enough English
I have seen that a LOT. People saying others should speak English here, but moaning that those abroad don't speak english (or good english, usually in tourist areas a bit is picked up) too. Like, they expect all immigrants to learn english but seem to be fine with the english moving abroad and never learning the language because..'everyone should speak English' for reasons unknown :umm2:
Livia
30-05-2019, 01:33 PM
it’s like the most multi-cultural country in the world and we have a weird and wonderful blend of hundreds of cultures, with angry old white brits crying loudly about it in the background
No, it may be a wonderful diverse mix where you are, but where I lived, there are no white people left. And they've left because if they'd said, hang on, I don't mind living in a multicultural society, in fact I quite enjoy it being a minority myself, but my own people are being squeezed out... then someone like you would have said something like you've just said above. No one likes to be called a racist when they're not.
Livia
30-05-2019, 01:34 PM
Brits that moan that our culture is being stolen or minimised are probably the same folks that moan when waiters in foreign countries don’t speak enough English
I speak four languages. How about you?
hijaxers
30-05-2019, 02:04 PM
I speak four languages. How about you?
:joker::clap2:
Livia
30-05-2019, 02:11 PM
I think what is happening in Birmingham at the moment is a perfect example, I could also give examples in Spain where the Brits live in enclaves and only speak English, the Spanish don't like it and why would they, so this is not a totally British problem
Yes, I agree with that. I've never understood why people would want to live in a country but then not embrace the culture. I mean, why would you choose to live in Spain and then stick to your English mates, don't learn the language and entertain yourself with El Pub and El Fish & Chips. It makes no sense. Similarly, I can't understand why someone would choose to live in the UK and then not learn the language, dictate our curriculum etc.
Are we losing any?
I was out yesterday and I saw rows and rows of shops selling the flag tshirts, and flags...all these baldy men with tattoos running up and down thier arms and legs going in and out all day.......
I love edinburgh.
GiRTh
30-05-2019, 04:21 PM
Stationary, that's right. I always remember which one to use by remembering it's E for envelopes.
Maybe "culture" wasn't defined enough. It's like my trip to Rome recently. I met so many actual Romans, working everywhere, great Italian restaurants, Italian leather shops.... it all felt very... Italian. In east London now you'd struggle to get Pie & Mash, a cockney superfood... but you can buy a samosa anywhere. One has pushed out the other whereas they used to sit side by side quite comfortably.Strong way of putting it. How are these people being 'pushed' out' of their homes? 'Quite comfortably' You need to explain that comment my recollection is not quite so comfortable
Cherie
30-05-2019, 04:27 PM
Are we losing any?
I was out yesterday and I saw rows and rows of shops selling the flag tshirts, and flags...all these baldy men with tattoos running up and down thier arms and legs going in and out all day.......
I love edinburgh.
LT on tour?
Marsh.
30-05-2019, 05:24 PM
Are we losing any?
I was out yesterday and I saw rows and rows of shops selling the flag tshirts, and flags...all these baldy men with tattoos running up and down thier arms and legs going in and out all day.......
I love edinburgh.
Were they doing a fun run?
Withano
31-05-2019, 09:35 PM
No, it may be a wonderful diverse mix where you are, but where I lived, there are no white people left. And they've left because if they'd said, hang on, I don't mind living in a multicultural society, in fact I quite enjoy it being a minority myself, but my own people are being squeezed out... then someone like you would have said something like you've just said above. No one likes to be called a racist when they're not.
Whut
Tom4784
31-05-2019, 10:15 PM
The idea of people being 'forced out' is ridiculous. White people don't have ethnic minorities intimidating them into leaving. If they leave because they think they are being 'forced out' it's most likely because THEY are uncomfortable with people of different races.
Rule, Britania! Britania rule the waves
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves
The idea of people being 'forced out' is ridiculous. White people don't have ethnic minorities intimidating them into leaving. If they leave because they think they are being 'forced out' it's most likely because THEY are uncomfortable with people of different races.
Dezzy...be honest with yourself for a moment....:nono:
Twosugars
01-06-2019, 12:23 AM
Rule, Britania! Britania rule the waves
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves
Except for being up the arse of trump and murica
Redway
01-06-2019, 12:33 AM
Rule, Britania! Britania rule the waves
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves
But it was okay for Brits to enslave the rest of the world wasn’t it.
But it was okay for Brits to enslave the rest of the world wasn’t it.I didn't write the lyrics, I'm just having a sing song.
Did you seriously think I wrote "Rule Britania" ?
But it was okay for Brits to enslave the rest of the world wasn’t it.
You are mistaking enslaving the whole world for educating the whole world...because we aint enslaved the whole world...but sure as **** we have educated them.
Except for being up the arse of trump and muricaI've wondered where you've been. I've had Dezzy and Marsh in my ear all day, I was sure you was gonna join in, and I got worried for you when you didn't.
Welcome home
Redway
01-06-2019, 12:49 AM
I didn't write the lyrics, I'm just having a sing song.
Did you seriously think I wrote "Rule Britania" ?
Did you seriously think I was referring to anything other than your comments about Brits never being enslaved?
Redway
01-06-2019, 12:50 AM
You are mistaking enslaving the whole world for educating the whole world...because we aint enslaved the whole world...but sure as **** we have educated them.
That’s it. Spread a superior world culture and introduced the third world to civilisation.
Redway
01-06-2019, 12:51 AM
Is the active role Britain played in the slave trade educational as well parmnion?
Did you seriously think I was referring to anything other than your comments about Brits never being enslaved?But it's not true, Brits have been enslaved, look up the Barbary slave trade.
Redway
01-06-2019, 01:05 AM
Rule, Britania! Britania rule the waves
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves
But it's not true, Brits have been enslaved, look up the Barbary slave trade.
Your comments, not mine. That’s what I was addressing.
Your comments, not mine. That’s what I was addressing.I was just singing a British song in a thread titled British/English culture.
I don't understand what you're trying to get at.
Tom4784
01-06-2019, 02:59 AM
Dezzy...be honest with yourself for a moment....:nono:
Honest about what? Not everyone has racist tendencies and I've never felt intimidated by someone just because they aren't the same race as me. I've certainly never known any white person be intimidated into leaving by someone of a different race and I live in an area that has a diverse population but is sadly quite racist. I've known white people to try to intimidate minorities but never the other way around.
Have you ever been groomed and raped just because you're a White girl, Dezzy? I've seen thousands of cases like that just in my county of Yorkshire alone.
How racist would you call that?
Would it make you want to move away?
Denver
01-06-2019, 08:38 AM
Not all rapists are Asian but all media like to run stories as soon as a rapist is Asian, they dont care if they are white or black
Not all rapists are Asian but all media like to run stories as soon as a rapist is Asian, they dont care if they are white or blackWhere did I say they're Asian?
Northern Monkey
01-06-2019, 08:42 AM
Shouting Wheyyy!!! in a pub when someone drops a pint.
This is it.
Happened only the other week in a pub i was in when a member of the bar staff dropped a glass.
It was a natural reaction.Everyone just did it without thinking :laugh:
Honest about what? Not everyone has racist tendencies and I've never felt intimidated by someone just because they aren't the same race as me. I've certainly never known any white person be intimidated into leaving by someone of a different race and I live in an area that has a diverse population but is sadly quite racist. I've known white people to try to intimidate minorities but never the other way around.
I don't believe a word you say as you sit in your perfect utopia.Not one word of that is true.
Northern Monkey
01-06-2019, 08:49 AM
Honest about what? Not everyone has racist tendencies and I've never felt intimidated by someone just because they aren't the same race as me. I've certainly never known any white person be intimidated into leaving by someone of a different race and I live in an area that has a diverse population but is sadly quite racist. I've known white people to try to intimidate minorities but never the other way around.
I went to school in an Asian area and regularly got cars of men driving past,Spitting and shouting “white bastard” amongst other things.
It happens,There are ghettos where whites don’t feel safe due to racism.
What many won't acknowledge in this thread is that white people have become the minorities in a large number of areas in the UK. As minorities, they are subject to the same levels of intimidation and racism as other minority groups are in the UK.
Twosugars
01-06-2019, 09:41 AM
I've wondered where you've been. I've had Dezzy and Marsh in my ear all day, I was sure you was gonna join in, and I got worried for you when you didn't.
Welcome home
Thank you
Took a brief break at the tibb resort. Overrated.
Cherie
01-06-2019, 09:42 AM
What many won't acknowledge in this thread is that white people have become the minorities in a large number of areas in the UK. As minorities, they are subject to the same levels of intimidation and racism as other minority groups are in the UK.
No one wants to hear that BOTs ...but the colonies :laugh:
I went to school in an Asian area and regularly got cars of men driving past,Spitting and shouting “white bastard” amongst other things.
It happens,There are ghettos where whites don’t feel safe due to racism.
Yes, but we must stay there and put up with it because of the sins of our forefathers...DO NOT COMPLAIN.:nono:
Twosugars
01-06-2019, 09:50 AM
No one wants to hear that BOTs ...but the colonies :laugh:
Bc it's true
No good moaning about immigration if it was Britain who "befriended " these countries, took their freedom and exploited them. We went there first and made ourselves at home
Cherie
01-06-2019, 10:04 AM
Bc it's true
No good moaning about immigration if it was Britain who "befriended " these countries, took their freedom and exploited them. We went there first and made ourselves at home
As has been said on many occasions, no one minds immigration, I am an immigrant myself, but when whole areas are taken over its not good for anyone..
Look at Birmingham and what little primary school kids have been put through
Twosugars
01-06-2019, 10:13 AM
As has been said on many occasions, no one minds immigration, I am an immigrant myself, but when whole areas are taken over its not good for anyone..
Look at Birmingham and what little primary school kids have been put through
Idk what can be done to prevent ghettoisation, but that's deffo something that is not helpful
The school business was bound to happen bc Britain is soft on religious exemptions.
Crimson Dynamo
01-06-2019, 01:12 PM
Bc it's true
No good moaning about immigration if it was Britain who "befriended " these countries, took their freedom and exploited them. We went there first and made ourselves at home
Romania ?
Livia
01-06-2019, 02:12 PM
Romania ?
The old "what about the Empire" argument is a tired one.
Crimson Dynamo
01-06-2019, 02:21 PM
The old "what about the Empire" argument is a tired one.
What did the British Empire give to the world?? eh eh??
well apart from a train system, infrastructure, abolishing slavery, a worldwide language, sport, abolished widow burning and oh yeah bloody democracy it gave us farrrrking NUFFINK :oh:
oh and 7 of the world’s 10 richest countries—Qatar, Singapore, Kuwait, Brunei, UAE, Hong Kong, and the USA—were once either British colonies or protectorates:hee:
Livia
01-06-2019, 02:28 PM
All very true Trumpet, but I think all that positive stuff is mostly secret now.
I'm still waiting for reparation from the bloody Vikings, coming over here, pillaging our stuff....
Northern Monkey
01-06-2019, 03:01 PM
All very true Trumpet, but I think all that positive stuff is mostly secret now.
I'm still waiting for reparation from the bloody Vikings, coming over here, pillaging our stuff....
Well....
My DNA tells me i’m part Viking so sorry about that.
Crimson Dynamo
01-06-2019, 03:03 PM
Well....
My DNA tells me i’m part Viking so sorry about that.
i am 22% Ikea
Livia
01-06-2019, 03:05 PM
It never ceases to amaze me how and why people are clamouring to come to this racist, uncultured, desperate place.
If you have to have this country's culture explained to you, perhaps you haven't travelled enough nor experienced other cultures.
Livia
01-06-2019, 03:05 PM
Well....
My DNA tells me i’m part Viking so sorry about that.
Your words are no good, send money.
Twosugars
01-06-2019, 03:15 PM
British culture is fine, still there and constantly getting enriched. Theres no going back to insularity, never mind what some apologists for the past say:)
Marsh.
02-06-2019, 02:37 AM
What many won't acknowledge in this thread is that white people have become the minorities in a large number of areas in the UK. As minorities, they are subject to the same levels of intimidation and racism as other minority groups are in the UK.
No one wants to hear that BOTs ...but the colonies :laugh:
So racism and intimidation only matters when white people are the minority?
:laugh2:
Cherie
02-06-2019, 04:50 AM
So racism and intimidation only matters when white people are the minority?
:laugh2:
:umm2:
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